Jordan Peterson on Free Speech and College Protests - The Jim Jefferies Show
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- Jim sits down with Jordan Peterson, a professor who’s become a darling of the alt-right, to discuss his stance on free speech and the protests against him on college campuses.
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"Maybe it's not different. Maybe I was wrong." This is probably the most respectable response anyone could give and it says so much about the person.
He was interviewed by a competent interviewer who called him out on his bullshit. Really inspirational.
As much as I like his honesty there, it also kinda shows that his philosophy and sociopolitical convictions aren‘t as fleshed out and thought through as one might think.
But it also shows Peterson is a faux intellectual if he couldnt even put two and two together until Jim brought it up.
Frito Laid but that happens all of the time in debates. It might be easy for you to see from your lens, but people review their opinions all of the time, even simple ones that supporters of might take for granted.
KFCthanksgiving so your previous comment commends jp for admitting him being wrong, then in this comment of yours you say changing one's mind happens all the time. Way to keep the bar low on what's commendable
I felt Jim may have been too far onto the protester's side until that last bit he did with the airhorn, stopping her from speaking. Nice to see he's pointing out hypocrisy and faulty reasoning no matter who is behind it.
Second this. I dare the viewer not to instantly judge and give it a chance. So... basically just like everywhere in life.
I agree, but I feel like the way this was edited, a bunch of random clips with absolutely no context to anything Peterson said, was very deceptive. He has absolutely no connection to the "alt-right", and unequivocally denounces their ideology every chance he gets. In fact, that's pretty much his whole schtick - ANTI-IDEOLOGY - of the alt-right, far-left, religious zealots, etc..
That editing was the whole point to paint him, that finished with the final statement/showcase of how quick peterson was to admit he might be wrong. How he would listen while others wield their right of freespeech, but would not see their own ignorance while disturbing his right.
EDIT: the whole clip was pretty good setting up the joke and showcasing a decent viewpoint with the horn. I loved it.
Gene Hakman Peterson comes across as someone who is vehemently against fanaticism.
nice to see... i think you mean 'at least'. that is the bare minimum. it doesnt get you kudo points.
"Any comment on the Nazi presence?" "Yeah I don't like Nazis" absolutely solid reply
@jcorb because all the commies Bernie attracts fills the same role of extremist group taking an ideology too far
@jcorb Where did he say that Bernie is a communist, he said that Bernie attracts Communists, and he's right, it's the same with Peterson, his ideas have absolutely nothing to do with the Nazis but since he speaks against the left, he attracts anyone who's not from the left, it happens with libertarians too, they have absolutely nothing to do with Nazis, white supremacists... But still when all these crazy people assaulted the capitol they were waving the Gadsden flag, that means nothing
@jcorb Your comment is actually very funny, because he could have said the same thing from the other side, you got offended because he said that Bernie attracts Communists which is true, but you claim that Peterson attracts Nazis which is also true, actually with your comment you show your extreme left wing position, you thinking that Peterson has something to do with Nazis is one of dumbest shit I've read
@jcorb Honestly if there was 1 socialist democrat who I would trust to safely implement more "socialist" policies it would have to be Bernie. I liked him in 2016 (barely shy of voting age att) and I still find him to be a solidly principled person. But as many others in this thread have mentioned I was merely talking about how has a more socialist leaning person Bernie attracts the farthest left leaning people. That doesn't mean he's some far left communist who wants to destroy all capitalism in a bloody proletariat uprising. Just like how Peterson being a more conservative person advocating personal responsibility, mild religious values, and free speech over PC doesn't make him a Nazi who wants to subjugate all minorities. As an avid gamer I know first hand that all large scale communities attract a certain amount of shitty people. And usually the shitty people either have the loudest voices or the longest lasting mental impact on people
@jcorb your on every comment get a life you fucking commie, your boy Bernie will have died of old age before he gets into office.
"I'm using my free speech to criticize them"
Yes, the airhorn and white noise are quite compelling arguments. 😂
To some, free speech IS white noise.....or black noise haha
White noise is the sound produced by old black/ white tv's that received no signal. Why is it white noise? Because when the tv was turned off, it was black. When there was no signal but the tv was on, it flickering on the screen would be white and the accompanied static noise, hence the name "white noise". Yes, "compelling argument"...
Free speech is not just the mouth uttering words. It's freedom of expression. So the use of a noise maker is free speech.
@@NxDoyle But Christeen didnt like it one bit when used on her. I'm sure no one else using that method would be either. I'm using my free speech to make sure no one hears your free speech. Not sure if sensorship is the correct word but its in the area.
“But they’re flawed” lol
Gotta respect a man who's able to admit when he thinks he's wrong.
That's what I thought too.
That's something I don't think people get about Dr. Peterson's classes and lectures. He's not *lecturing* us, he's letting us listen to him *think.* If you can't see or more importantly admit when you are wrong, growth becomes much more difficult. :)
One of the things I like about him. He is actually a pretty reasonable person. I have seen many times where he simply admitted his ignorance of something.
Unless a Jewish baker should be forced to make a cake for a Nazi wedding, or a black baker for a KKK rally, he wasn't. Yes, the civil Rights act was good, but free market would have also eventually stopped that garbage as well. The less people you serve, the less money you make and the more you give to someone else
@@Farah0122 Not just his ignorance, but also his sometimes being irrational, acting wrong, being angry. His personal flaws. To be able to not only see that but also admit do it and constatly trying to lessen these negatives is remarkable and not as easy and obvious as some might think
Honestly, Peterson was open to the idea that he may be wrong and was willing to hear the opposing argument. The lady wasn't and wouldn't even acknowledge Jim's POV. I think this is mainly shows the issues on tribalism.
jordan is an accomplished phd and showed his lack of thought by giving that knee jerk reply in the first place. its on jordan to think his positions thru. especially one so sharp as this one.
veroman007 should a black baker have the right to not bake a cake for a Klan rally?
Black people are a protected class, as are LGBT people. You can't deny people a service based on things about them they cannot change, for example the color of their skin, or their sexuality, among other things. What you can deny people a service for is political stances, such as being a member of the KKK, or antifa.
There should be no 'protected' class. The entire thing is ridiculous.
Who defines what is and what is not a 'protected class'?
You should post the entire interview.
He never posts full interviews because he doesn’t want to show what he really says
@@shanelynch7757 dude he is a comedian
@@lovelymachinegunOOC he should stick to comedy then
@@lovelymachinegunOOC then it sounds like he shouldn’t be doing highly edited interviews then huh?
He, although very funny, its dishonest, the interviews are cut and split to fit his narrative, and some times the guests didnt meant things they said the way the cut was made, or they were answering something else.
Conservatives didn't eat it up. All reasonable people ate it up
People with a basic understanding of psychology dont like him because he understands nothing. Look up his debate with zizek.
@@jimmybeaton4438 Philosophy you mean. He knows a lot about psychology, to say he doesn’t is ridiculous. The problem is that he delves into so many other complex academic subjects like philosophy and medicine that he occasionally has dumb takes
@@edenbeats I think it's more than occasionally. He is pretty dumb when it comes to philosophy. He doesn't know what marxism or post-modernism are, he reduces Marx to the super thin Communist Manifest (lol)... But I do like his defence of free speech. He's mostly correct, even though it's a tough topic.
@@bru513 He’s mostly right on issues that concern normal ppl. When it comes to economical history, he definitely has more to brush up on
@@jimmybeaton4438 I thought Zizek could've used more and so on and so on.
So this is why people are scared of video edits, they can make you seem however they want
KingLeo There was nothing wrong with this video edit...
I mean, it still seems to side with Jordan. It shows that he believes what he does honestly, and is willing to see things from other angles. It puts a lot more hate on the college students.
or we can cut the snipet, all have a laugh, and move on. no reason to explain, right?
John Johnson, the question asked was "How do you summarize why men are in crisis?", to which Jordan responds "I think it is- on a deep level...", then "it's the same thing, and so, and Nietzsche knew what the consequence of that would be". Jordan's talking philosophy and addressing Nietzsche's conceptualization of "the death of god" to answer the question. He goes on to give an explanation that makes perfect sense if you've done the most rudimentary reading in the subject (though I don't buy in myself, this is the part of Peterson I'm least fond of.)
Why would he go straight for philosophy and shit when asked to "summarize" something? A summary for a child is a sentence or two, while a summary for an adult is a few paragraphs that touches on all necessary elements. Peterson isn't aiming for to teach children or the child-minded.
DA REAL Johnny Appleseed its completely taken out of context all the time.
There are plenty of reasonable criticisms that can be levelled at Peterson. And this video touches on a few of them. But I really don't think he can be accused of flirting with the alt-right. He's spent much of his career lecturing about the dangers of radical far-right ideology. There are videos of him dismantling their core principles in quite some detail.
But he engages with them rather than just insulting them, because he wants to change their minds, and pull them back to a moderate individualism.
Assuming "moderate individualism" is a good thing. Just as long as you're coexisting with far right ideologies, life is good.
the far right is a tiny minority and has very little influence. I bet you're the type of person who smears anyone who wants strong borders as far right wing.
The alt-right is dying, don’t you remember Charlottesville? These people aren’t gaining any power or influence. Richard Spencer is getting sued into oblivion.
He is after money.. Everybody knows that the right wingers will pour money just to listen someone say that they are right.. Besides they never attend colleges. so they will never see lectures or seminars(atleast most of them) and i dont consider anything except degrees related to engineering, chemistry, medical and mathematics to be worthy enough.. Anyways for them a lecturer using fancy words defending many right wing ideologies is a good thing for them i mean atleast it is some thing new to them, a new format different from alex jones, conservative radio shows, shapiro, crowder etc..so he uses SJW, PC, gender identity, christianity etc to lure them and make enough money..
I honestly can't tell if that is sarcasm or you're genuinely stupid.
The air horn move at the end with that PC girl was priceless!! 😂 😂 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Shutting down Peterson's events and then calling yourself a supporter of free speech is hypocrisy at its best.
non violently ,non threateningly protesting an event isn't shutting something down .that's just using your freedom of speech. If he wants to move than that's on him
They're just whole heartily afraid of truth because it doesn't suit their agenda.
@@santinosingh6047 as if you haven't tried shutting him down and violating his freedom of speech countless times, and as if you would allow him to speak freely if it was up to you cowards.
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 are you really trying to debate a khalistani?? They are a terrorist that have called for genocide of their own countrymen because they dont follow their religion, buddy stop trying to talk to such Piece of S.
Whining about hypocrisy and then gushing over Peterson is hypocrisy at its worst.
Avi Yemini just exposed you bro lmao
no he didnt did you even watch the video??
@@evannatland5151 yes I did, did you lmao? You must be smoking the same crack jim is
Dylan L. No, warping videos to attack strawmans is just wrong. Their points have been falsely represented through editing, not just a sting. I doubt you’d sit on this view if they did this to someone from the left wing. Sometimes you need to step back and realise what Jim jeffries did was wrong, cowardly and misrepresentative. And plus people do care, look at the dislikes on these videos. And lastly Jordan Peterson does not have poorly thought out points. He’s argued them very well with little live debate refutation. Even now, you’re misrepresenting Jordan Peterson. He is not anti civil rights, how ridiculous to label it that. Also What Jeffries have said about muslims is probably 10x worse than what Avis said as well and even avi admits he went too far.
Are you talking about AVI the confessed and convicted wife beater? Anyway, this is comedy not a fucking TED talk.
@@austinhamilton9040 Again, another dick head who doesn't understand the difference between comedy and a TED talk.
i loved the airhorn bit at the end
I wonder if that got through to her at all.
Probably not. Still it was awesome!
I preferred the moment the illogic of Peterson's defence of prejudicial cake shop owners was gloriously exposed 5:10
Matthew Malpeli
The cake shop owner would not have stopped the gay couple from purchasing a cake from the available stock (which would have been illegal anyway). He refused to make them a cake based on his constitutional right to freedom of religion and it was determined he was within his rights denying them his artistic service. Similarly, you shouldn’t be able to force a Jewish painter to paint a portrait of Jesus or the Nazis for that matter. Jordan appeared to have been caught in a semantic trap that he would have been better off in responding to with reference to why the Civil Rights Movement was necessary. They were in response to unconstitutional Jim Crow laws. This highlights that both the Civil Rights Movement and a religious baker denying service to something he deemed abhorrent as both Constitutionally correct.
caleb salisbury - I could tell that was coming because I saw a reporter in the UK do the same thing to equally annoying disruptors with a whistle. The idea that you can use free speech as a weapon means these people have never heard of slander or defamation of character law suits.
Let's take all of his quotes out of context and make a funny
- comedy central guy
It's basically a Daily show "interview" with an Australian accent.
What context would make his comments ok?
@@drewhead1 Ever listened to him speak in long form? Anything other than clips?
@@ChristopherTucker138 yes, have you?
Im not talking about hearing him. Have you actually listen to what he said?
He contridicrs him self all the time.
@@Tom-vx7xm given that he contradicts himself all the time you should be able to give me some easy examples of it right? Ive listened to him for hours and couldn't call it "all the time". So... Come with the receipts
"Why do you care what they call themselves?"
"I don't care. I care when people tell me what I have to say." Bingo!
So, it should still be ok to use the n word when talking about or to people of color?
@@DaveTheFuckingBrave do you mean morally correct or legally allowed
@@hederal5546 whatever Peterson means
@@DaveTheFuckingBrave why ask a question if you don't understand what you're asking
@@hederal5546 I understand it very well. Peterson‘s logic opens the doors to and form of hate speech and discriminating speech you can imagine. And an imaginary moral code of conduct won’t change a thing
"maybe I was wrong"
That's a good man. When was the last time any of us had the guts to say that?
Deep questions cannot be answered intermediately, the require deep though, not deep throat!
@@TheVigiIante exactly
But he'll be saying the same shit again 5 minutes later.
@@colinholio well. If he does, that's wrong of him. Or maybe he has decided he was right.
colinholio nail on the head. JP will continue on regardless of this rather revealing moment
That girl needs to learn that random loud noises are not considered "speech".
gokufujison also, it’s a form of physical assault on anyone who hears the noise at dangerous decibel levels.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!1!!
you didn't get the joke then?
Shes an idiot. Everyone has rights but their rights end where another persons rights begin.
Free speech covers more than what you say, its about freedom of expression. Maybe read the definition of free speech before commenting on it
I would love to see a Jim Jefferies interview like this with a clock in the background
You Americans really can't laugh at yourselves.
😂😂
Really disappointed with that interview. There's plenty of things you can disagree with on Peterson without misrepresenting him.
What was edited
The face when he pulled out the air horn 😂
And the grin on his face when he asked "do you agree with me"?
That was gold. I think right to criticize is fine, i agree there especially with bad groups. But at same time its pointless if you cant have open discussions and interupt people with noise : P
Every single clip was taken out of context... For fucks sake. When will these people learn. Every time they do this, people see right through it.
Only JP cultists perceive "every clip to be taken out of context". How convenient that literally ANY clip that doesn't show Peterson in a positive light is somehow ALWAYS him out of context. Yeah that's not weird at all....
Justin Gutierrez Almost every comment you write is insulting people as "JP cultists" for no reason, don't call people immature while acting like a 4 year old.
I don't agree that literally everything here was taken out of context, but most of it was.
And it's because they heavily edited the videos out of context, not because they didn't show him in a "positive" light, in my opinion you should just let him Talk and make people decide for themselves.
It was all in context. No one was shown in a positive light, and I thought that was the point. Both positions have flaws and don't deserve to be held up on a pedestal.
Think for yourselves, and stop being suckers to sensationalist media that tells you which side of the issue is God and which is Satan.
Because no comedy show ever does this right? They just did it to that SJW woman in this segment and you don't mention that, but it's only when it's done to "Daddy Peterson" that the lobsters lose their shit.
Clearly not everyone is seeing right through it. Of course it's more troublesome when it's some so-called "media organization" doing it than a comedian.
Jeff is mouthpiece for whoever provides milk to his table
just like jordan accepting money from the koch brothers?
If you actually listen to even one of Jordan Peterson's full interviews or lectures you'd realize he's the most reasonable person with a platform. Its a shame people just hear he's phobic or whatever and right him off as far right. The people who do this should be ashamed of themselves
I've listened to a lot of his interviews and what I do understand about him is that a broken clock is right twice a day. I don't know if he's far right, and I don't care. All I know is that from what I've heard from his own mouth, he has badly formed opinions that are subject to a clear political bias that he pretends not to have, and that type of phony behavior annoys the fuck out me. Furthermore, no intellectual worth their salt should be able to have any of their points so easily dismantled like this to the point of agreeing with the interviewer. I don't understand how you Peterson fans don't find this utterly embarrassing. And the sad thing is that this isn't the first time this has happened.
@@Lexyboogie you haven't listened to his interviews. This vid cherry picked 1 paragraph in his book. You haven't specified anything btw. He was a dem
I know right?!? They say that he has "become a darling of the alt-right", but he has always denounced the alt-right!
@@Lexyboogie I wish you would have given clear examples
You're just another bent pawn that can't think for itself smh
@LexBoogie Watch any interview with him thats longer than 6 minutes and 17 seconds and hasnt been edited, to the point where you dont even get to hear more than a sentence or 2 and I promise if youre "worth your salt" as an "intellectual" you'll see how idiotic every word in your comment is. Hes a democrat, not a Republican. Just to be clear, he's not saying he dislikes transgender people. He hates being forced to say anything. Hes okay with being told "you cant say these things." You're a dumbass for someone who claims to be more of an intellectual than a professor at a college that graduated from harvard.
5:16 This type of behavior is why young people aren't watching TV anymore. We're tired of producers manipulating interviews in a manner that feels disingenuous and dishonest. What was his next sentence? Was the reply shown lifted from a 3 minute explanation in which Peterson clarified his views?
No thanks, CC.
He admitted he might be wrong. There’s nothing wrong with that. Stop being sensitive.
JakeTheGiant EXACTLY
This isn't a documentary. It's not a debate. It's comedy bit.
If your looking for anything other than a laugh you've missed the fucking point.
Christ, next you snowflakes will be demanding that Bad Lip Reading should have a transcript of what they're really saying. What a bunch of children.
Bravo Kilo It's gone beyond comedy though, there's an agenda being pushed under the guise of 'comedy', and if anyone says anything we get the 'it's just comedy' line, and that's deceptive. Just be upfront. I'm not an advocate of gay marriage, most gay guys are mentally traumatised, that's not my opinion it's a statement told to me by a gay man in the scene, at any rate, people should be able to refuse to work for anyone if they don't want to, ie baking a cake, that's the difference between capitalism and serfdom, so essentially we are serfs, and u call that 'progress'?
a fury you too huh? I myself am a former liberal. not that I am now a conservative or anything like that, I just simply went from a registered democrat to a registered no party preference. I have been wondering how common this is becoming.
Peterson: maybe i was wrong about that.
This made me like him more. A true sign of a scientific thinking person is the ability to change his mind.
Yeah same here, that was quite the mature response!
Battle of Valmy Are you really so intent on hating people you disagree with that you're not even willing to accept their submission when they admit they were wrong? The guy says something wrong, you call him a homophobe. He admits he was wrong and corrects himself, you STILL call him a homophobe. Well fuck me, homophobes aren't really left with much incentive to change then are they?
The correct answer was his first answers though. someone should not be forced to not bake someone a cake .
Fuck Google+ Can you give me a reason for that claim?
His incapability of applying his way of thinking to different situations and his reoccuring logical inconsitency made me respect him so much. Dumber he gets more I like him.
The airhorn was the best!!!😂😂
It's not just "conservatives" that like Jordan Peterson
Yeah… no
But it mostly is.
Hey Jim, release the 40 min full interview so you can get respect from your fans.
I hope you can make a petition for this shame them into it. I used to be a huge fan of jim I never agreed with him on guns but I can agree to disagree when its comedy. This however is not ok in anyway maybe he needs to work on bringing legit back and stop this if he has to be this one sided fact ignoring bullshit
pretty sure Jim is serious about gun control like the rest of the sane world.
lol how deranged are you looser? Peterson just got made to concede that his point of view was wrong by a low brow Australian comedian lol
Pretty sure they'd never do that, for obvious reasons. I wonder if Peterson might out this on his channel..
Jim Jefferies was picking on both sides equally, yet you want to be a precious snowflake about him picking on Jordan Peterson and owning him in less than 3 sentences. You know, you're just as bad as the PC feminists coming to this page to bitch and moan about their side getting picked on. Jim Jefferies doesn't give a fuck.
UNEDITED VERSION IMMIDIATELY ! ....please
O U T O F C O N T E X T
This isn't a documentary. It's comedy bit.
If your looking for anything other than a laugh you've missed the fucking point.
Next you snowflakes will be demanding that Bad Lip Reading should have a transcript of what they're really saying
Bravo Kilo A bad lip reading is a great channel for a laugh. Trumps inauguration was a gem.
learn what snowflake means you dipfuck
i bet is completely different
Don't trust anything this Jim guy does, he just edits to get fake answers.
FACTS
@Jay Blabla12 Its called accountability and this is not the first time he has done it, if he doesn't like it, then he should tell the truth, ever heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf
@Jay Blabla12 Just like he "didn't edit" on this video?
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This Jim guy and whole comedy central are scumbags.
I'm not sure Jim really disagrees with Peterson, except allowing people to shop where they want.
I love how you guys think Jim actually edits his own show. He's got better things to do with his time than sit around with an editing program, he's a face for a network television show on Comedy Central, and a stand-up comedian that still tours the world very commonly. Editing is provided by the studio.
Even For Jim I thought this was a little sleezy to cut up his arguments and put words in his mouth to paint a picture.
Im sure the conversation was great the editing was foul tho
The air horn bit was GOLD. her face 😂
Lol great bit. Jim Jefferies managed to offend both sides 😂
@@rafijahangiri4 Pfft Jordans too logical to be offended.
It's pretty telling that she didn't get the argument.
@@chaosjoerg9811 She got it. Jim didn't get it. Disrespect people who deserve it. Don't just disrespect everyone.
@@daemonCaptrix Sorry, I don't get what you're saying. Are you trying to imply anyone could actually mean that? That's a totalitarian position. And in a totalitarian society, dissent is impossible in the first place. Are you arguing for a spiral of argumentative self-invalidation?
Nice edits there jimmy. Why dont you release the full interview?
Seized Cheese yeah cause I want my interviews to be chock full of the greatest trope in the greatest genre of TV. Reality TV with a bunch of jump cuts, sound effects and laugh box. Nice
Seized Cheese fucking watching nickelodeon again, shit.
Well, its comedy central. "We're news for dumb people until we get called out"
Careful insulting the incel. Cold steel goes hard.
7783DEATH Yup. Jim has become a complete fucking sellout since going to the US. So gross.
The airhorn was epic 😎
The last part with the air horn was hilarious!!!
The guy changed his mind or at least stopped to think when confronted with a good argument. I don't know him, but that is a better sigh than college girls that don't want to hear anything that confront them.
Any debate he knows when he is contradictory to his own beliefs and will admit to it. Jim Jeffries had the chance to fully have a discussion with him and they cut it up in to some horrible wanna-be Daily Show routine. I still like Jim, but I don't get how such a shock comic can be so overtly-liberal as well. Comedy Central is shaping him to be like every other CC shill.
brodi81 I'm sorry you feel that way, since I think what most people took away from that is that guy's thinking may be very flawed, but not only should he be allowed to speak, but he seems willing to admit that some aspects of his thinking are flawed. Compare that to the liberal college students who think that free speech is the right to prevent other people from speaking.
Of course, you might be one of those people who thinks that Comedy Central is a cesspool of liberal groupthink that wants to tell their viewers how to look at the world because that's what your favorite right-wing pundits tell you to think. The right wing has never been more cultish, so that's always a possibility.
brodi81 dude spot fucking on! I don’t even know what the point of this piece honestly was.
brodi81 It's a show dude... he's the host but it's going to be 90% scripted, which means a team of writers, except for the bits like the furor/Führer joke which was just him improving. It's also only a half hour show, and this was only a 6 minute segment so they probably shot a 30min-1hr long interview (which I'd love to see) and had to cut it up. You can't really expect them to just air a 30min uncut interview on 23 minutes of air time , especially on a topical show where they have other news and bits to do.
Gunman610 - It's interesting that you call right wingers "cultish" and say they are only repeating what they've been told to say; considering the liberal sheep's newest favorite term is "cult" all of a sudden. I love how idiots on the left forget that one of the most notorious cults ever, the KKK, was formed by democrats. But of course trying to explain that or have an intelligent conversation with someone like yourself is impossible because you've closed your mind to rational info long ago, and everything must be decided based on feelings. The biggest mystery ever is how a liberal's brain has such a high fail-rate with all of the free information and truth that's available. Please do the rest of America a favor and stay in your safe space.
Anyone else remember when Jim and Comedy Central deceptively altered Avi Yemini's interview, then Yemini posted the uncut version?
i remembered that and i was searching for that video rn
Yeah that's one of the reasons why I'm so mad right now
Who is abi yamani?
Yup
Anyone else remember when Jim and comedy central made fun of a nazi loving piece of shit called Avi Waks? The same Avi Waks that plead guilty to and was convicted of assaulting his wife. The same Avi Waks who plead guilty and was convicted of harassing his wife. The same Avi Waks that was sued by his brother. Why? Because he accused his brother (who is a victim of child abuse) of harbouring a paedophile Is this the piece of shit your trying to protect?
Jim is woke af
yeah he's pretty cool
Yeah, he's pathetic.
The air horn part at the end was hilarious 🤣
I hope people don't take this interview as a serious disscussion, way too many quick cut-aways from Petersons talks without proper context.
It looks like many ARE taking it as serious discussion. Lots of people offended that Peterson wasn't portrayed the way they wanted.
+Bravo Kilo They're mad that Peterson wasn't granted the use of his preferred adjectives (non-alt right)
bhsWD96, they're mad because they heard something that was poking fun at Peterson and immediately jumped on the butthurt bandwagon in the comment section without even hearing the conclusion of the clip that was in support of him.
"ahh yes the closed minded ignorance of the left
Quick to label, quick to judge."
Proofread your comments to avoid painfully face-palming irony.
Bravo Kilo that's the point. Taking random statements out of context to make someone appear to be something their not, to portray them in a inaccurate way is fucked up.
I bet, if I looked at you're life. And took a few clips from it I could portray you as a woman hating racist crazy person.
And if you aren't those things, I dare say you might be offended, or even upset by the portrayal. Media does that alot, they have someone who doesn't share their interest and they portray them as a crazy person.
The Comedy Central editing to make the guest look bad and the host look good gets old. I would rather see a unedited interview.
But how will the simple minded leftists clap their hands at the elites?
Corey B, Jerry Smith Have either of you ever laughed before?
Jack Heathen I laughed the first 10 times Comedy Central did the bit, I believe it was the early days of the Daily Show.
they wouldn't allow that because it wouldn't be 'comedy' comedy central is on life support. without south park, the channel would be completely dead, and the next season doesn't come out until september/october
key and peele was great, but who the fuck still watches tosh.O
The air horn on the girl was comedy gold 😂
And yet she didn't laugh.
4:24
"i'm using free speech to criticize them"
Really i did not hear many arguments from the airhorn.
The moment JP admitted that his conclusion about not serving gay people was too fast, and that hes was wrong about it (because it was a spontaneous question/answer that needed more thoughts) made me respect him even more.
really?
In other words having the balls to own up to your own inadequacies like a man, ie social responsibility. This really is where conservative values shine through. He's really doing a great thing for society, but he also put a huge target on his back by doing so because of all the people whose entire worldviews will come crashing down the moment they concede that he actually makes some valid points. That's why they go at him so hard. I just wish he doesn't end up physically hurt or worse.
Jack Heathen he didn't get the question.
Except none of his ideology or public raving will change as a result.
allenwright89 I think you are also missing the question.
"you're not going to force me to respect you..."
I couldn't agree more
One of my standard answers to when my superiours want me to do something I konw to be wrong: "You can tell me do it, but you cant make me say its a good idea". Basically the same energy. Agreed 100% with mr peterson.
Back in school one kid was really strong and would intimidate everybody. When people made jokes about him, just like they did everybody else, he would sometimes get mad and take them really badly. He would hit them and told them they "need to learn some respect". I told him that respect and fear are not the same thing. He told me either is fine lol
@@tubeyoukonto That's actually a pretty funny response (not that I condone his actions!)
“You’re not going to force me to respect you”
Is the same idea southern whites could say to black people having their land stolen, living in a cycle of debt through tenant farming/share cropping, while being thrown in prisons where they were legally slaves. Sure. Turns out when you say “you’re not going to force me to respect you”, you’re most like the oppressive class.
@@r.i.petika829 or you're aware of the idea that respect is earned through action and not through force.. maybe.. just maybe everything is not about race
@@lafountain40 "maybe.. just maybe everything is not about race" The labor forces, leaders, history, legal space, and rhetoric of America quite literally disagrees with you. The 60s-70s were only 50-60 years ago, that's 2-3 generations. Maybe, just maybe, you're trying your best to ignore America's racial problems.
Jordan Peterson admitting 'maybe i was wrong about that' after Jim made a very valid point that Jordan could not just dismiss. I respect that a lot. You gotta take something from this. It shows Jordan is someone that truly wants to move forward in the name of fact and science and is able to stick true to what he believes in. He is not just someone that wants to win the argument or puts his ego before his beliefs.
True, but the logic that Jim provides Jordan should of been obvious from the get-go, Especially to a person like Jordan. A man who claims to have a very high IQ, and then subsequently categorises people based on that quota. It's a joke that someone as "intellectual" as Jordan Peterson failed to intially comprehend his involvement in the same prejudice that African Americans were subjected to in the past.
A comedian educating a "great intellect". That is a joke in itself.
Peterson is a clinical psychologist and his motivations are in sync with clinical training the includes ethical practices( whether to treat or not treat a client if harm can come if it, especially when one's values do not resemble in any way the socio-political views and policy shifts of a movement),psychology, sociology, human development theory, moral development theory, and is well researched in current gender studies that now also include de-transitioners. Free speech is important and bandwagon hop-ons who fail to do their homework are a disappointment!!! I.e some leftist college students
@@timmothyjennings He doesn't claim to have a high IQ he does have a high IQ over 150 that puts in the top world 1%
He is in also the top 50 cited Clinical psychologist of all time on google scholar and has a H index of 56 thats extremely high
A H index of 10 is regarded as successful 20 is outstanding 40 or anything over up there with the best for perspective 62 is the average for noble prize winners
If you dont know the “h-index” is a metric for estimating “the importance, significance and broad impact of a scientist’s cumulative contributions.” It takes into account both the number of an individual’s publications and their impact on peers, as indicated by citation counts.
But hey he is human too.
@@Indonesiansurftravelwell, that didn't stop him from saying in an interview with Theo Von "Alcohol is the ONLY drug that causes aggression". Lol. Let's hope no scholar cites that.
"why does the noise have to be white"
Jpb: "😐😐😐😐.... Hahaha"
🤣🤣🤣 Same
"it's like stand up, but instead of laughs..."
as laugh tracks back this video 😂
"as laugh tracks back this video"
and your point ocourse is ...?
man, what's with the editing... lotta hack bits here
Humor. Have you felt it?
Can't make Jefferies look good if You let Peterson talk.
Jack Heathen kind of hard to laugh at a bunch of politics. I'm tired of all this political bullshit on "comedy" shows.
Airk Ofval JP did talk. Did you not see the moment he instantly caved in on his entire argument when met with a very simple and basic comparison? Watch it again.
Ayanokoji Norm McDonald! I think he's seriously underrated
That was really good Jim.
I don’t even care about the out of context edits anymore, 5:30 was just too hilarious
this was... a lot less of a shitshow than i thought it would be
Remember, it's edited!
It's a comedy show and he did punch both ways. I honestly didn't expect it to be as good as it was. I was pleasantly surprised
>Was a bullshit hit piece designed to insinuate he's aligned with nazis.
Was it though.
Effect it was cool that he air horned the liberal at the end, like she did to Peterson.
That editing on Peterson was total bullshit tho.
Jim Jeffries, no....Jefferies? Jeffrie, OMFG FFS.
Jim's generally a good egg. He's no Samantha Bee or Trevor Noah.
i'm a left leaning liberal and love peterson. So does Russell Brand ffs. You don't have to be a conservative to enjoy thought provoking ideas!
Its not thought provoking its pseudo intellectual and not that different from Fox News. I mean if he couldnt even understand what the difference was between black people not having cakes baked for them and gay people it shows hes not that smart. I dont agree with the way his opposition behaves around him, but that doesnt excuse Petersons faulty reasoning and pseudo intellectualism. Brand also isnt that liberal hes one of those dumb "purists" who wouldnt vote Dem in 2016 and paved the way for Trump.
Any man too beta to denounce the kkk should be a ashamed no matter what line he stands on.
Frito Laid should you blindly vote your party’s way every time even if you don’t like the candidate?
Frito Laid he's not dumb he's intellectually dishonest, he know exactly what he's doing and is using it to turn a huge profit, more then he could have ever made as a collage professor.
Frito Laid Many people who call others 'psuedo-intellectual' are just insecure of their own intelligence. Reading the rest of your comment, I expect you're amongst this group (and sympathise why)
"I'm using my right to criticize them"
What you're doing is not criticism, it's censorship.
The first amendment protects free speech in that it prohibits the government from censoring people. It says nothing about individual person on person censorship or censorship from corporations. She could be charged with a public disturbance or something, but you can't be charged with "suppression of speech"
Jim should get a Oscar for editing interviews there's no one better
Emmy. TV shows get Emmy's.
That is who you think is the best ? Get some help boy .
He flirts with the alt right? Way to go Jim, did you get your editing skills from Kathy Newman?
So what you're saying is Jim in drag is Cathy Newman?
canadianthought Peterson isn't the free speech martyr people think he is.
You guys finish watching the video?
... except he does flirt with the alt right? Watch the Rogan video where he drones on about Kekistan. Or did the Liberal Marxists edit that too? Peterson is an intelligent guy and his bigger message is often solid. But he is still a human being, and unfortunately a bit of a hypocrite. I was a huge Peterson fan when I first discovered his lectures, but it has dwindled as I see more and more flaws in his thinking. However, I have a new found respect for him when he admitted "perhaps I was wrong." If "Jim" [who, by the way, probably doesn't edit any of the videos himself...] had wanted to, he could have ended the clip with Peterson sitting there, looking dumbfounded. He could have removed that humbling admission, and made him look like an absolute fool. I'm not sure if you watched the whole video, or just turned it off once your panties got in a twist, but he had a jab at the obnoxious leftists too. The airhorn bit was great, and a far better 'put down' than anything that was aimed at Peterson. And here I thought his fans exalted themselves on having thick skin. He's not immune to criticism, you know...
Josh Wilson the problem is that people do not realize that that frog meme originally had nothing to do with the alt right and that was the point that Peterson was making. People are just pointing at things and calling them alt-right. Sure the alt-right has embraced that symbol but not before people before hand generally did.
How to misrepresent someone in 6 shite minutes.
Lee Davies
Did he misrepresent him tho? 2 minutes in and I don’t necessarily feel that way... yetz
Lee Davies he's a pretty shite person
Lee Davies when he realised it would help him advance higher amongst the Hollywood media
Funny how there are tons of these comments with tons of likes but no actual points brought up how Peterson was misrepresented. Come on, is it about the man or the ideas?
Alex Ferrando Two glaring examples: the way he made fun of Peterson's point about the death of masculinity and the death of God without getting into any further detail about that (a much deeper concept than it first appears on the surface), but more specifically 2:30-2:45 where he says that Peterson is weak on criticizing the alt-right. That is not true at all.
Where can you see the whole show?
Did they edit this interview as well?
only clicked for Jordan Peterson, back to living my life without comedy central
Larry Lee Same.
"WHAAA, I'LL NEVER WATCH COMEDY CENTRAL AGAIN!" LOL! We found him fellas, the triggered special snowflake....
Damn you just going around calling everyone in the comment section snowflakes. Someone's had a bad day, I presume.
yup, I haven't missed Commie Central in years.
but South Park....
Jim Jeffries the islamophobe.
Behead those who insult Islam! Start with Jim!
Why?
topcatdog Fuck off you all, He’s Atheïst he hates all religions!!
@@kyaxara7321 most athiests dont hate religion they just dont believe in it
@TheTimbalanders He tells those types of jokes all the time, if it hadn't been for the Christchurch shooting I bet they might have put it in there. It's certainly in his stand up comedy, but you don't know that because you were sent here because you watched a VERY racist nazi nuthugger bitch about how 1 hour of footage had to be cut down into a short segment about bigotry (which Avi is, he's a bigot of the highest rank).
LOL, saw that furor/fuhrer joke coming ...
The last part redeemed the video. Fair enough. Haha.
You're in big trouble Jim.
The air horn piece was priceless. It’s like when a kid plugs his ears and makes noise when a parent is talking.
Exactly, even if the parent is retarded and abusive, it's best to let them speak. Making your own valid counter arguments always trumps censorship.
wow. u have to watch it until the end! it's worth it!
This was actually really well done and I loved how he blew that air horn to point out the hypocrisy
well it was selectively edited to paint a different picture about Peterson than what is reality. Jordan Peterson absolutely detests identitarianism. Hes spoken about why extensively. He proposes that it is the center of the Marxist movement and why its such a dangerous ideology.
@@colinmckay5228 I only understood about 20% of what jordan Peterson says because I listen while driving and it's hard to concentrate on two things at once but his points are interesting.
@@colinmckay5228maybe he has no idea what Marxism is.
Jim was losing me on this one till the air horn, then I remembered the true nature of satire.
Watch out, you're getting awfully close to dogmatic thought.
You don't have to believe Jordan Peterson is right because the other alternative is wrong.
Use your own free thought and don't believe everything people tell you, including Jordan Peterson and the syndico-anarchists.
Thor Jørgensen syndico-anarchists? Jesus Christ it's like you people make up new shit everyday.
Anarcho-syndicalism has existed since the start of the 20th century, and it's not quite uncommon.
In a nutshell it's extremist-left wingers in the style of communists.
Antifa for example are anarcho-syndicalists, waving their red and black flags. Black representing anarchism, and the red representing syndicalism. Most people known them from media as "autonomists"
When you say "you people" I honestly don't know who you are referring to.
I'm not a Jordan Peterson fan, in fact I think he's very often flawed and makes outrageous pseudoscientific claims.
So tell me. Who are "you people"
This ain't satire, have you listened to this guy lately?
+Thor
It sounds like you're including Jordan Peterson into the syndico-anarchist group: _"..including Jordan Peterson and the syndico-anarchists."_ That might be where the confusion is coming from.
Havent seen JJ in some time. What a puppet. Shame. Next
Having a different opinion than you do makes him, if anything, NOT a puppet.
StHubbins The world passes you by, doesn't it Sport.
@@michaelc3977 Unfortunately for you, it does not.
I like that Jim Jeffries airhorned the feminist at the end, because it really drove home the horrible irony I see with people forcing others to use words they don't want to use while rallying around our charter of human rights. On the other hand, it's sad to see Peterson have the current free speech argument compared to the civil rights movement. The problem I find with that comparison is that there's a big difference between open hatred for a skin color and people simply refusing to be forced by law to use preferred pronouns. Personally, I think there is no harm in attempting to help a trans person feel safer or more welcome by asking them what they like to be called, but I also don't think it should a chargeable offense NOT to accomodate a person with their preferred gender. Why not, you ask? Here's a better question: how would they enforce it anyway? You can bet there will be full on lynch mobs and witch hunts that will all boil down to "he said she said" court cases that will never see any tangible result in sentencing. The whole legal system will have to change.
I completely agree with everything you said. By the way, you could be charged for not having said "he said she said they said".
When will you release the unedited video
That airhorn bit...
Julio De la Cruz No, that civil rights act bit. Peterson's entire reactionary worldview smashed into a gazillion pieces by logic. It was glorious
He crushed Peterson on his position about legal refusal of gay wedding cakes, then ridiculed Christeen Elizabeth on her attacks on free speech.
Gotta admit that Peterson's "Tell the truth (=what you think) in order to get challenged and progress" works far better than the SJW tactics.
By logic... lol Did you get your degree from Trump University? There is no logic in forcing people to say something because it aligns with your fantasy worldview. There is also a reason that you tubers now have vastly larger audiences then most of these shows.
Matthew Malpeli logic? The whole interview was edited. I like both Jeffries and Peterson and respect Peterson even more because he admits he was wrong which is something no liberal ever does. I think if you are all for free speech than everyone else has a right to speak their mind whether we like it or not. Thats mainly what Peterson preaches. I’m not a conservative btw, I just respect points of views from both sides.
+TakeoFR
it's not that he "smashed" his opinion. It's that jordan hasn't thought it over for him to have a real opinion on it
It's sick how they edited together 100 clips from different contexts and didn't even manage to make Peterson look all that bad.
Because in the end Jim fundamentally agrees with JP. Most of these commenters didn’t bother watching until the end.
is sick how you guys worship him like he is a God. This is comedy and entertainment. Your mind is so fuck up that you go to videos that you shouldn't just to dislike the video and cry your as up. are you that lonely.
dexter 123 did you have a stroke? Are you okay?
nonstop That's because making him look bad wasn't the objective. Rather than an interview, this video is more of a knee deep overview of the whole Jordan Peterson shitstorm/situation.
Peterson is the idiot's intellectual.
Jordan Peterson condemned white supremacy, he made a video called, “Why Hitler is worse than you think.”
xd
Yes he did. that video might be the dumbest take on the Holocaust yet. It's really embarrassingly bad
@@pulpficti Lol its not a take on the holocaust
@@pulpficti Its litterally just someone clipping a part of his lecture and clickbaiting the title
@@MudulerDerpz ffs. Peterson always is out of context when he says some dumb shit. What was the context then? How Concentration Camps didn't work?
”I hate this video it's biased!....I love the part at the end with the blowhorn hurdur!”
Hurdur?
There is a laugh track on this video.
Need I say more?
Edit: people are saying that the laughter is live. I don't want to insult the audience but wow. This is less funny than Big Bang theory lmao.
All his videos have a laugh track.
PistachioMan it's a live talk show.
The airhorn bit is comedy perfection. If you think it's unfunny, maybe that's just your personal sense of humor and not the fault of people laughing at the joke?
Дмитрий Сусов oh yeah that part was actually funny that was a good laugh
Daily show uses and has used a laugh track for almost 2 decades....
On this one topic, Peterson is 100% correct. You cannot have the government tell you how to address someone by gender.
truvelocity Ok, Mrs.
PW see and you aren't in jail or even being fined.
PW
Now take that harmless joke you just made and criminalize it. That's the issue.
pitu toup your comment seems out of place. Unlike this interview can we get some context?
pitu toup, College students are adults. You should not be fined or criminalized by the government for calling someone he or she instead of a third gender pronoun.
Thank you for keeping this heavily edited and deceptive video still up and with the comments open!
I liked the air horn bit at the end.
"Fuher " lol. I would love to see the WHOLE UNEDITED interview
You can, it's available dummy.
will he’s dissing him because of the edited Avi Yemini interview
@@willvr4 are you sure? where? I think this is the version that aired
Jamie Walker The only thing edited during the question in regards to how those two things are different was the camera angle. That's it.
lol, furor not fuher
Funny but pretty unfair to Peterson. I'd love to see the full interview
Fuck Google+ you're a psycho
Probably go the same way that it goes whenever you see Peterson confronted with someone whos not an absolute nobody or a raging radical feminist.
and as we can all see, youre a great, compassionate human being who deserves respect
In what ways is he awful, and how is it worse than telling people to hang themselves?
are you one of those people that just shouts at people and calls them names on the internet without having the simplest modicum of an actual argument to explain why you think these things? good luck if that's the case...
I'm so happy he pulled out the airp-horn!!!! Perfect point made!!!!!!
Best part was the air horn bit
The airhorn at the end was just brilliant hahaha.
Why
@@iconcanada3660 Because of the irony
I cannot wait when joe rogan or crowder interviews dr. Peterson on this interview and well hear the real story
Jesse Knox Rogan has already I think.
I wear a hoodie that mightve been the vice interview? Rogan has Peterson on 3 times, the last time was 4 months ago and this video came out 4 days ago unless theirs an interview that was recently done
baddogonline do you have a link? Ive lookes on youtube and the latest one is 4 months ago and it has 3.8 million views. That's the only newest one I'm seeing, but i could be wrong!
baddogonline ok we're on the same page
“I cannot wait until somebody fairly sympathetic (Joe Rogan) or outright worshipful (Steven Crowder) gives a softball interview to a man I love with a passion, instead of taking a critical perspective.”
Phew! you had me worried about being objective for a moment 😁
Kinda wish it was actually a full interview
"maybe it's not, maybe I was wrong about that" that moment is stunning. I actually think the cake thing is a bit different, but what is amazing is how he didn't hesitate to admit he may have been wrong. it's so clear that truth and not winning the argument is Peterson's goal.
The dudes on another level. This is actually a prime example of how intelligent Jordan Peterson is.
What’s more amazing is that he didn’t already realize what he was saying. He’s been caught time and time again on issues where it’s clear he hasn’t actually given it ANY thought. He’s a fraud and an opportunist. I don’t know ANY well adjusted people who believe his nonsense.
@@MarmaladeSally I imagine your idea of a well adjusted person might differ from mine.
@@my_cousin_mose9782 You as well-considering you can’t even tell it was edited
@@MarmaladeSally 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the video was edited or can u not even tell that
I love that most people in the comments can see through the edits and how biased this shit show is
Yeah, unsubbed and never watching this shit show again.
You do realise this was comedy? Why are you crying?
@@infadelecharlton1090 Nobody is crying. We are just seeing the hypocrisy and false narrative behind it. Open you mind and dont be a sheep.
Lmao you need your safe space. We get it.
@@psahota9306 Sometimes we need to take a time off because you, the lunatic left, are so out of your minds that you even support the killing of babies inside a mother's womb. I dont know how mentally deranged you have to be to support that.
5:30 that’s our old jimmy 😁
This aged like cottage cheese left on a roof in Death Valley in mid July.
I love how he was faced with a good point, reconsidering his own and changed his opinon. What an adult thing to do
The problem? He’s still arguing the same points today.
He never wrote a book admitting he was wrong. He never corrected the record
@@sibais lol true
@@zapkvr just cause you got baited to answer a question wrong, doesn't mean all of your believes are wrong.
@@pedrovelasquez5121 In English???
I’m left leaning and love Jordan Peterson. Painting him as being on the side of Tiki Torch Holders and Alt Right Nazi’s is insane.
How so? His anti-left narrative is startlingly similar to the anti-left narrative propagated by the far-right fascist movements of pre-WW2 Germany, the popularization and widespread acceptance of which lead to the overt demonization of the political left, the fall of the Weimar Republic, and the rise of the fascist Nazi regime.
It's not clear how someone who leans left and also is aware of what JP thinks/says about the left could possibly like the man, much less love him.
Even though you (and JP, I reckon) say that _he_ is not on _their_ side, the fact remains that _they_ (fascists, alt right, white nationalists, nazis, anti-leftists, etc) are on _his_ side, whether JP likes it or not, so it's certainly not inaccurate to say that they are on the same side. What that says about JP:
(1) he is on the wrong side of the issues he likes to talk about, and moreover,
(2) his understanding of those issues and their respective histories is so shallow that he never notices that the reason he has so many fans from alt-right/white nationalist/anti-left/fascist groups is because he unwittingly endorses many of the views that are common to members of those specific groups.
@@yuudaemones2624 so if i stand against fascist ideogloy and tactics, that means im pro fascist? delusional
@@yuudaemones2624 Awesome. By your logic you are on the same side of Stalin and mao so you must Approve Of the mass murder of millions of people . Please don't dumb down the comments anymore.
It seems like he has problems to distance himself from these hatefull groups. I guess part of this is because he would sell a lot less books if he did. The students trying to stop him speak are dumb fucks so much is clear tho.
Jordan believes in enforced marriage. There’s no explanation for that. Jordan is posing behind a flag that many radical rightists identify with. I don’t know much about the man but him being a far right Nazi doesn’t seem a far stretch at all from a neutral perspective.
"aoooooow kay.!" got eeem!
Whoa, he got so OWNED because he thoughtfully considered the counterpoint and was willing to admit he was wrong/change his stance? I guess we need some legislation that forcefully changes the definition of owned.
Damn Jim, after looking through these comments, you should probably release something close to an apology.
A little bit late. But why?
Most comments were but idiots who did not pay attention, what the piece was saying.
The message was, yes the pc crowds are hypocritical morons, while making the point that free speech should have some boundrys like Mr. Peterson agnowladged himself.
Not really. Jefferies actually forced Peterson to back away from an opinion as it was logically incoherent. Pretty well played considering he's a comedian. Credit to Peterson for realising he was wrong in the moment as well.
He also ended by agreeing to some extent with Peterson's stance on free speech. Stand up comics often have the most nuanced, powerful views on free speech. In some senses they are its guardians, as they are always pushing its limits.
@@righteousshift482 Might be right, but to always beat that horse about peterson somehow being associated with nazis is just plain stupid and annoying and takes so much away from his actual stances and messages. Its like someone took a perfectly cooked beef filet, shat on it and served it to you so that you go "well, this doesnt smell pleasent". They take something good, warp it into something bad and thereboy not only desctroy someones reputation, but also taking the good he produces away from people who could need it. I have met people who say that he is a nazi without even knowing what the guy looks or sounds like because they heared it from someone and apparently thats enough evidence for some. So I always ask them what exactly it is that makes him alt right, a nazi, transphobic, homophobic or a bad person in any other way. And to this day - silence. They have absolutely nothing other than "I dont like the studies he quotes and I wish the world would be differen". Well.... thats.... I dont even know where to start with that... If you cant answer the question as to why someone is bad. Then your point is 100% invalid. And thats what these people dont get.
@@righteousshift482 Now I'm confused...which one of them am I supposed to hate more now?
Peterson incels are butthurt. They put him out of context.
full Peterson interview?
I found it, enjoy czcams.com/video/lmoPMiCJ10A/video.html
Should have been a lobster... But on a serious note. Holy fuck, his fanbase grows increasingly insufferable by the day.
I couldnt agree more, they are always super serious and cant take any jokes
Not to mention they are generally really fucking dumb, hence why they need a university daddy to affirm their beliefs
No Masters and that's why nobody gives a shit what you think. To label over a million people 'dumb' because you don't agree with a professor they watch... Maybe it is you who missed something?
I said generally, not exclusively
He peddles pseudo philosophy and self help to ppl who for the most part haven't engaged with any philosophical material
Anyone who takes a philosophy 101 class would see the flaws in his arguments
An example of his bad arguments is his constant appeals to myth and this entailing an appeal to nature as well (he believes these myths are integral to or nature, he believes these myths are more true than scientific truths)
This is an example of the naturalistic fallacy, he constantly claims that because something is "natural" it is good and or immutable (myths in his case)
A counter example would be men who are genetically predisposed to rape, we would not say therefore it is good for them to rape
Something could still be morally bad and natural, some myths may be bad (he never shows that these myths are indispensable, only that they are possibly omnipresent) for society and yet be natural concepts for us (although even this can be fervently debated, I don't buy the whole meta myth thing)
Is that substantial enough, you mouth breathing sycophant? :)
There are conservative philosophers that are much more consistent than he ever will be (because he is a hack)
but I suspect any pseudo intellectual that will affirm your beliefs will do
Wonder how many people here would look if we edited together clips of your life. Especially Jim.
Exactly. I’m sorry but Jim looks a bit weak to me
No way!! 😂😂😂 Jim is a real one with that blow horn 😅😂😂😂😂