Van De Ven or Saliba? | Combined XI | NLD Debate Ft. Abbi Summers | Tottenham vs Arsenal
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She needs to go back to only fans, clueless
Vicario is definitely better at picking the ball out of his own net.
Robbie called it with Vicario not like being crowded.
So, Arsenal's defensive record is apparently because Raya has a good defence, but somehow, according to Spurs fans their players make up at least 3 of the 4 defenders
Deluded bunch!
Your first mistake was expecting reason from spurs fans.
Your second was talking to them😅.
Best defensive record in the league, yet apparently Spurs should be making up the majority of the back line, shocking
Deluded bunch!!
Arsenal fans at the start of the season 'i dont trust raya, id rather have the poor mans joe hart in goal' also arsenal fans 'raya is better than vicario' spurs nearly signed raya but went for vicario cos hes better.
As soon as i see a spurs player make the xi im turning off the vid
Edit: sarr in a combined xi midfield is crazy im sorry
Son st
Only Son could walk into our club, but I hate cheaters.
@@ClintonCotason is finished 😂😂😂
@@23293 he's not
our individual players are better in a lot of positions but alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No spurs player would make Arsenals first 11 rn. Let's be real!
Facts
Son at striker, udogie clears arsenals left backs
Not really
Timber is miles better@@kingezzy14
At the moment Son is easily in over Martinelli and van der ven is left back sub
@@kingezzy14 udogie is out for the season
Vicario over Raya is atrocious...and for robbie to give in so easily....even more atrocious
Should have put Ramsdale in
@@Patchow no, he shouldn't.
Exactly , what has done at tottenham? Actually raya made lots of saves at Brentford
He's probably the better showstopper but arsenal don't need that he's way to weak when there is a set piece
its because vicario is way better as an individual player
Ben White is much better than Trent.
The first right back in this league.
Trent is capable of the spectacular he is a star but Ben White is a better defender, excellent technically and a more dependable player
😢😅
Dalo's not that much worse than trent he average 😉
Trent is one of two players who are undeniably scary in the league. Trent and KDB. Ben White has been comfortably the best RB in the league this year though.
Any Spud getting in is a stretch.
Son gets in clearly, don't even try and compare Eddie to him.
@@ObviouslyKierannahh
@@ObviouslyKierannah eddie has barely played this season… havertz though? Different debate. Even trossard probably beats son this season.
@@Slim2Flo Delusional...
@@ObviouslyKieran how? ahaha what did son do against us? scored a pen and thats it lmaooo havertz/trossard clears this szn
Any spurs fan that isn't talking from a completely biased and deluded standpoint, would know only vicario, udogie, and son have a shout, absolutely no other player gets in the arsenal starting 11, and it isn't a debate. Isak made Van de ven look like bambi on ice, he is never getting in anyones 11 above saliba, other than smooth brain spurs fans 11.
1 mistake from vdv and he can't get in now
How many stinkers have Saliba and Gabriel had
@HarryKanee clearly not that many considering they're by far the best cb in the league this season lol. He doesn't get in, but here we have a deluded spurs fan who'll try and argue he does. You can't argue against the best defensive stats.
Van de ven at lb udogie is injured for the rest of the season
@@HarryKanee none
@@Dean-vn8tn nah I aint taking him over tomi at LB tbh
Skipping over this absolute nonsense. No spurs player makes the starting 11.
Facts !!!
@@chrisrichards1450 MADDION SO UDOGIE UNINJURED LOL BIASED
SON*
Absolute joke I nearly unsubbed
Facts. Not even one Spurs player gets in our team.
Only Vicario, Son and Udogie have a shout for Spurs and even then there’s a debate to be had.
Udogie at left back only cause none of our left backs is certain
Only Vicario & son have a shout to be in the combined XI
You don't need vicario cause you have a goos defence and that means corners will be very dangerous
Udogie?
@@kingezzy14 over who Lolz.......Tomiyasu & Timber better
@@Daniel_ss4 no they aren't. Tomiyasu barely plays and Timbers been injured. Udogie has been one of, if not the best leftbacks in the league this season.
@@kingezzy14When fit Timber is in a different league.
I like how abbey pretends she is some shy Tottenham support that get picked on when I. Reality….. she wears rival clubs shirts to celebrate our loses, makes excuses for Tottenhams failure and holds other clubs to higher standards than her own
I can only see 2 players from Spurs getting in the combined XI - Son and Udogie.
Im a Real Madrid fan, no biases towards any of these 2. IMO:
GK - Vicario
RB - Ben White
CBs- Saliba and Gabriel (but Van de ven could be in over Gabriel)
LB- Destiny (ZINCHENKO IS ASS)
Midfield is completely Arsenal. Partey, Rice, Odegard.
RW-Saka
LW- Jesus or Gabriel
ST - Son
The only spurs players who'd get in our XI would be son and udogie. And udogie wouldn't even get in if timber was fully fit and available.
Abbi point is dismissed, raya faced plenty of shots at Brentford with worse defence. Raya is underated.
I'll give them Son as a 9 and being VERY generous Maddison in midfield. Rest is all Arsenal. Robbie also work on ur Trossard celebration and make ur hands into binoculars i dno what the hell that elton john thing u doin.
I would agree as a Spurs fan. Vicario may have a chance as well. If this was earlier in the season, Maddison might get in, but not currently.
Ben white is better than trent as a right-back 100% trent has a great pass and freekick but thats it. The position is right back not right midfield
You guys be speaking nonsense. Trent >> white any day
Son over Trossard is crazy and what’s worse is white vs Porro 😂
Yeah... I think Son is a no brainer. He is their best player & at times over the years been one of the only ones who cares enough. My opinion though, you're entitled to yours lol
I'd have Son down the middle and Trossard on the left. Trossard has been too good this season to leave out.
I really love how Maddison takes aged
Arsenal has the BEST attack & defence in the league, I dont see the point of comparing any Spurs players over Arsenal's in those positions, plus Odegard, Rice, Partey. Best 11 done.
City have the best attack 😂
@JL-uv9yj we've scored the most goals futa?
@@Willaonyt okay? Doesn’t mean you have the best attack, city have missed de bruyne and Haaland for large parts of the season. I’d rather face saka martinelli havertz than haaland de bruyne foden.
A 22 minute video for a 2 minute debate. Only Son and Vicario have shouts to get into the Arsenal squad and the latter has major deficiencies in the air.
The deflection is unreal.
Arguing Porro vs Ben White then bringing up trent vs Ben white loooool
There should not be a combined 11 as know Spurs player would get in our first 11 partey smahes Bissouma out the park so does Rice.
I think makes more sense to put son down the middle and trossard on the left
Always Saliba
The fans these days are different to say kiwior hasn't been playing well lool he has been start since December January i think for 4 month he has not been a problem no on mentioning him being the weak position or anything defensively but abbi says I seen him look bad vs Bayern loool that makes him no been well for 4 months.
The only player who makes it is Son and that's only because Nelli's having a bad season. I'd maybe give them Vicario purely cuz how Arsenal heavy the team is. Udogie's injured, so Tomiyasu at LB. That's it.
Are they actually buzzing? Sarr over Partey?? Udogi gets in even thou he’s injured, but not partey. When Partey is fit, he’s on the level of rice if not even better. Easily better the any spud midfielder and maybe 2nd best midfielder at Arsenal.
Every Spurs fan: “Raya is only good bc his defense is so good.” Then proceed to underrate Arsenal’s back 4.
So, the golden glove winner doesn't get into the combined 11😂🤦♂️
Spurs fans logic. 😅
No one from spurs would make into arsenal first 11.
1. Raya already won golden glove
2. Arsenal are second on table
3. Overall Raya commanding his box better than vicario
4. Arsenal let less goal
5. Arsenal score more goals than any other club
Premier league team of the season spurs would be lucky to get 1 player in... arsenal would have 5+
Not being biased but why would we want a spurs player?.
They're a good side with food players but arsenal is a unit ...it's no good taking anyone out ...they all play at artetas high level .😅
Only son and maddison on his day would get into the arsenal 11 💯
Seeing that general consensus is no Spud makes the 11, then we’d better beat, and not one of them scores tomorrow 🤷♂️
Drop the golden gloves winner for Vicario. Vicario is a great shotstopper but Ramsdale is better, ask Maddison he knows
I would allow udogie n son
Took the words out my mouth
Son Havertz Saka
Maddison Odegaard
Rice
Tomi Gabriel Saliba White
Raya/Vicario
Udogie is injured. I think goalkeeper are probably around even overall this season. You could swap Tross in for LW and Son for centre. This is a NLD so I expect the game to be close though.
Other than Son, nobody else gets into the combined 11.
U are dreaming 😂
Odegaard is the Player of the Season, no arguments!💯
Forgot to ask about the manager
Arsenal should use the same line up as chalese used Dm both party and rice,other wise not good,
IMO, Bentancur has displayed the most composure and skill playing there in the middle of the pitch. He was the monster before picking up an injury. I'm not surprised when one of the BIG clubs comes to ask for his service in the future.
Vicario and Pedro Porro in the combined eleven. What's the point of doing this?
Arsenal has the best defense in the league! Raya has the most clean sheets.
Ben White is having a great season. Can anyone get that in Abi's head?
1. Don't forget Raya didn't play 5 games, that's like 2 more clean sheets at least. Easy in the team.
2. White is the best right back in the league this season, Pedro Poor-oh get him out of here.
3. Richarlison can't trap a ball man, he's up there with Eddie Nketiah and that's in a good day.🤣
(no need for a amazing shot stopper with a good shot stopper and Raya is excellent at comanding his box)
Raya
Udogie Gabriel Saliba White
Partey Rice Ødegaard
Saka Son Trossard
Only spuds player I will take is Son, give credit where credit is due.
0:19 - I want Laurie on Broadway, what a talent
No spurs player makes it in besides maybe son
As someone who supports neither team so I'm unbiased here & I completely agree though I would put Son in he is their best player in my opinion & theres been many times over the years where it seemed like he was one of the only ones who actually cared enough!
Raya, Saliba, Gabriel,White and Ordegard make it on the players of the season list
Raya? Calm down mate
No chance raya and Trent’s been better than white
It’s only Udogie LB and son up top
Even that’s only on paper, Havertz has been better this season imo
It is sad if Havertz is the best striker among these two clubs. His record in England is 4, 8, 7 and 11 league goals per season 🤦♂😂
Mate his only been playing st since the beginning of the year and no one’s got more g/a then him his cooking
Raya
White Saliba Gabriel Udogie
Odegaard Rice Maddison
Saka Havertz Son
Udogie is injured, if we can include injured players then bye bye udogie, because Timber is superior
@@deeray4637exactly, and madders? 😂😂😂
Besides son, no one makes it into a combined 11
i hate this 'we play a higher line' Arsenal play the highest line in the league. Tottenham are 5th. And yet we still concede nothing. Raya>vicario.
spurs fan here but i'll try to be an unbiased having watch both teams
gk - vicario - no debate here.
rb - White - As much as Porro has been good, Ben White has been as good offensively. Porro is sometimes a defensive liability, so I'm taking Ben White
cb - Saliba - Saliba vs Romero. Our fanbase like to make it closer than it seems. Not even close. Saliba all day.
cb - Gabriel - I love VDV - if he wasn't injured, he could slot in, but the way Gabriel locked Haaland that game still lives in my mind. Certain games he looked better than Saliba.
lb - Udogie. Not a big fan of Kiwior, Zivchenko is a dfensive liability at times. Tomiyasu has been good, but Udogie goes in.
CDM - Rice - bissouma first 10 games maybe. But Rice this season is just something else
CM (box to box) - Sarr - We can't have to attacking mids (one needs to be box to box), so I'm taking Sarr over Partey and Jorginho.
CM/CAM - Odegaard - What a player. I used to say he was overrated, but his killer link up players, shot, leadership. It's like the complete package and it just blossomed well
LW - Trossard - We have Werner and Johnson. Honestly, would have Martinelli as well (not saying Martinelli is bad - he was insane last season but he's now coming off the bench I presume because of injuries or something). Trossard has looked dangerous all season
RW - Saka. No debate here.
ST - Son. Jesus is unclinical as much skill he has. Havertz second half of the season has had a revival in his career and it looks like it'll continue. Son the entire season has been Spur's best player along with Vicario.
As a Spurs fan, if we can just get a draw, I will view it as mission accomplished because with the fixture we have, top 4 looks hard to get. It'll either be a goal-festival draw or Arsenal are going to do to us what they did to Chelsea
Generally a fairly good well constructed analysis and whilst I would not argue with most of your decisions the one that I would disagree with you on is that a fit and firing Thomas Partey is miles ahead of Sarr. Unfortunately he has been unfit for most of the season but if you watched him against Chelsea on Tuesday you would have witnessed what he brings to the table when he’s in the groove ✌🏼🙏🏼
Raya
White
Saliba
Gabriel
Udogie
Rice
Jorghino
Odegaard
Saka
Trossard
Son
Her football knowledge is immense 👏🏿
Nonsense
Raya has the most clean sheets and has played like 4 or 5 less games then most goalkeepers
If the game is a fully fit player, then partey is 100% in. Probs our best midfielder in form
Assuming the players are fit yet Timber not in the LB discussion at all?
midfield should be Rice, Maddison, Ode ... how is Saar In there 😂
only positions spurs should be allowed to have is the LB and LWF
Excluding Son, there is no Tottenham player who would make it to the starting lineup of Arsenal.
As an arsenal fan I'll give them the lb but raya has won the golden glove and without jorghinio we would've conceded alot more goals and honestly with the front 3 I agree with the spurs fan that son should be st/cf saka on the right and martinelli left
I'll give them Vicario & Maddison and Son. That's it. Only cause Partey barely played tho otherwise he's in over Maddison.
Guys you forgot to do the manager lool....ill do that....my foggin manager of course ❤❤
Son is the only player to get near to the combined from Spurs
The only players i wouod give is udogie and son
Raya, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Udogie, Odegaard, Rice, Sarr, Saka, Havertz, Son.
Did they reach a consensus?
Vicario had a good start of the season but the guy conceded like 50 goals while Raya had some where close to 20. How is that even a debate
Well Vicario has many more shots he has to save because of Spurs’ much poorer defense and the high line. So idk if number of goals conceded should be the only metric to look at.
Speaking purely from eye test, I see Vicario consistently making more impressive saves than Raya.
10 arsenal players and maybe Son, that's just facts
I got so much respect for her when she’s talking proper football no bias
I understand that Robbie is trying to be polite but god he's letting that Spurs woman talk way too much. It should be Robbie calling the shots and her giving her opinion, we are just too superior to Spurs for the combined 11 to be called by a Spurs fan
I can give you the correct team as a neutral fan
Vicario
White
Saliba
Gabriel
Udogie
Rice
Odegard
Partey
Trossard
Son
Saka
Where are all the spurs fans? Go-karting😏
I liked a few Spurs players during first half of the season…. but none of them are in form anymore…. even Son is very questionable at the moment…. I’d still take him over Havertz, but Son didn’t have great season tbh
Vicarrio was good for like 2 months at the start. The hype on this guy is crazy
You know 1 is left footed and the other is right footed so I would start both of them together 🤷♂️
Not over gabriel unless you mean lb
Porro has really improved massively this season
Hmm white hands orange face 🤔
Trying to out players in ‘because your not gonna get many picks’ is mental, it’s out of who’s the best of the players that have been out forward. Rate missed the first 4 games, won the golden glove and still has 4 games to play 😂
how does sarr get in ahead of partey
Ben is better than Trent AA.... Trent can't defend.....
My god, Stake Mate had better be paying a heavy price for this intrusion. It's bloody hard-going as a viewer.
Respect to Abbi
I think the Left Back position is Arsenal's only main weakness. They don't have a constant starter. I will give her Son. Thats basically it.
She says raya is better than vicario because he has a better defense and then proceeds to justify the inclusion of Spurs defense players.
arsenal fans say they didn't trust raya and preffered the poor mans joe hart and yet pick raya? Spurs nearly signed raya but went for vicario cos he was better.
@@thf3038 lmao you could not sign raya cause of payment terms and arsenal pooped all over you by getting him on loan deal 😂
Raya is clear of that bum already won golden glove, go to sleep little kid
@@eepanda6976 so clear that you lot booed him and preffered that poor mans joe hart in goal. Vicario is outstanding and the superior keeper as even you lot had no confidence in him
@@thf3038 haha only morons who represent people like yourself booed him. Absolutely noone booed him in the stadium only some plastics who still say arteta out were doing that crap. Does not even represent 5% of our huge fanbase which is something you will never know since you support a small irrelevant team.
I saw van der ven against Newcastle. Please don’t mention his name next to saliba 😂
SPURS GAME IS MEANINGLESS COS PL TITLE RACE IS DONE . BIG BIG CONGRATS MAN CITY THE GREATEST EVER THE INVINCIBLE MAN CITY
Golden glove winner this year…where’s the debate? 🧐
why is nobody talking about the sarr over jorginiho shout............that,s mad to me😂😂😂😂😂
Udogie and Son are the only ones that make the team
They play badly this season.
Abbey swallow some pride...you can't have anyone at spurs over Benny Blanco. Even neutrals will say Ben White ffs 😂
Probably, Vicario because Raya's leaked too many dodgy ones.
This aint for Laurie. He tries too hard to appear impartial but ends up looking stoopid. Sorry. Get a proper neutral to mediate and to be the final arbiter otherwise its a long ting.
There is no room for a frivolous team in a team competing for the championship. Well...Son may be chosen. No others will be accepted.
I think combined 11 is the dumbest and silliest idea ever. Who cares about a make believe dream team? Who cares?