Phantom Defier Elena, do you need her in IDLE HEROES?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Discussing Phantom Defier Elena (PDE) is interesting because whilst she is a good support hero, she has to compete with plenty of strong Transcendence Heroes. Let's talk about Idle Heroes' latest support champion.
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If you’re using sfx and lofa already as your first two heroes, and dont have the ruyi scepters to get a jahra yet, i highly recommend her for your third transcendence.
She’s done more at v2 than fqv did at v4, then again i’m not sure i was optimally using vesa- either way, i much prefer pde.
It all depends WHY you built FQV Vs PDE. Intention matters in this game. SFX, LFA, FQV is a versatile team. You lose that versatility choosing PDE
@@MKxJUMP true true true
I build all Trans Support heroes, they will all have a use
I have all B tiers heros. And the addition of her to my Vulcan vesa team has allowed me to start stomping chapter 4 in void campaign already half way thru
What team do u use man?
@@overkillking2602 I ran a vesa Vulcan Elena suicide eos Aspen Freya team. I made a video of it if u wanna see the team.
@@browniegames865 I did take a look and pretty nice team (u gained a sub as well lol). A Change from the usual CC type teams I’ve seen. Currently my 6 team lineup is Queen, Jahra, Mockman, Aspen, Vesa and Freya. Mockman main householder with close to max house, first tenant needs like 10 more levels Jahra and SFX trans tenants. Im planning to swap to Vulcan when I get my next trans hero which will be my 8th. Naturally I’ll swap SFX to Eos and make Asmodel my 8th transcendence so that I can maximise the first house for Vulcan. Not sure where I’d fit in Elena here tho. Might have to replace Jahra but she will be a tenant for Vesa whom I plan to make my second householder.
In your opinion would it better to use Elena as the second Householder? I also have 2 star Core of origin for Jahra and I’m working my way to 3* cuz I was originally planning to keep the Jahra for the CC
@@overkillking2602 a lot is gonna depend on how strong that second house is, I had 2 and a half max homes when I beat campaign. U may have to experiment and see who will be the better homeowner. U may have waves where u need to change ur secondary hh. As for the jarha core I have a 2 star core sitting also. I just stopped taking her cores.
I have adhd and it’s always so hard for me to understand what the new heroes do but this video helped a lot thanks❤
20:40 - As an LFA user who has recently gotten a Trans Elena/PDE. I can confirm that it works well :D
I started this game two days ago but haven’t really touched it. Got elena. She seems good
She looks insane on a sustain team
Very helpful video! I am exactly at the point you described (5 trans, SWJ focused account) and was not sure what the 6th transcendence heroe should become. Thanks a lot!
I'm actually gonna build her instead of vesa, i have a lot of time to get copies and i already have 2, it'll be a lot more beneficial for me as she's a tenant for lord of fear Aspen and also synergies well with him so she's way better for me and third jhara as I'll try to get 8 demon bells by then, if not then temporary vesa then jhara, that'll be better void campaign and vortex, if there's a better way then please give me some tips.
This is my current set up right now and I'm near for my 6th Transcended hero. I might consider this strategy, thank you so much MK! Your videos are always helpful yay ✨.
I just have a question because you've mentioned the SWJ synergy. Are you pertaining about having her with the core of origin and the main homeowner is vesa?
Thanks a lot for your amazing videos MK, I enjoy more playing Idle heroes by watching and following your guides. More power to you ☺️
No, I'm talking about Jahra as a main home owner. FQV is only worth making a Homeowner when dealing with a small number of enemies. Most gamemodes have 5 or 6.
@@MKxJUMP Thank you for your reply MK! I really do appreciate it. I'll look forward to execute it in the future 💙✨.
the most hilarious part of her core is that at level 8, it actually *does* affect your whole team
I know I'll never far enough in 2 build a transcendent hero yet I still watch these sorts of videos:)
If you are free player they say it takes about 3 months to build a transc heros. But I've heard if you spend real money wisely you can get at least 2 built in a month.
@@tinkerdeath-mk8vy i spend money, not alot but im vip7 and i dont have a trans hero yet, it all depends on the events
@thinkerdeath1091 2 transcendence in a month?! You might want to check your sources. They were probably this guy i know called Cotman.
@@MKxJUMP Not a cot man 🥲
How’s the DnD campaign coming along, any black holes yet?
cotman
Thanks for the advices
The only basic atk that transcendence hero is useful and Very good is LoFAspen
Does this mean that if I build elena along this Jahra and aspen, do I have to build a 3rd ruyi or another demon bell to work with her?
I built her and now I’m winning fights vs people with a lot higher power then me now I’m sitting at around 75k their are people in my guild who are 200k plus iv v maxed trans heros, just not being able to break me with her crown or purple fan works great on her deff a game changer I believe her dodge happens I find a lot which is just amazing in pve as well I’m late game finally and can swap my SFX for her since my FQV mostly does everything else SFX used to now in pve. “I am also sitting on 8 trans heros almost 9 now
ah .... shit. i've got 5 copies from summons and hoped she will be useful for me in the future .... thanks for video!
My team is currently SWJ T4 (main homeowner), FQV T2 (homeowner), SDE T2 (homeowner), LFA T2(sde tenant), SQH T1 (SWJ tenant), MFF T1 (FQV tenant), (also SFX as SWJ tenant). I did build PDE for the event and soon I'll be able to build one trans hero more if needed.
This video was really helpful as it gives me one direction to go which would be switching LFA to a homeowner instead of SDE. LFA is currently too slow for the void campaign (currently stuck at 2-3-7 Sherlock, Holmes Young, Dela wave). Making LFA homeowner would make him stronger and faster but also would give spot for PDE in the lineup.
Is this route good or should I make build SMM for DPS instead? Kinda feel that SDE needs to go anyway
almost feels like they built her for CNY event
In a Eloise account, the firts transendent heroe that I pick was FQ Vesa. Is a good option go for transendent Jara because she have the same tenents that Eloise and can fit in the 4°spot of FQ Vesa tenents or is more safe to go on a mystic fairy freya?
Great vid as always, been looking to see if PDE would be as fun and useful as she sounds. Have SFX with LoFA and AtD as tenants, and SWJ with SQH as tenant atm, looking to get PDE next as SWJ tenant so my 6 trans heroes would be SFX LoFA AtD SWJ SQH PDE. Want to clear Dominator and progress Void Campaign, so would this team be fine or should I make some switches?
Thanks
Now 11months later...she is being used literally in 99% of accounts
Does the video feel sped up to anyone?
Would you still use a ruyi on the SWJ type of team where she is the householder or a more aggressive artefact?
It depends on the opponents. Against anyone you can infinite lock with CC, your win condition is CC not Dmg, so yes, Ruyi all the way.
Against people who need to be burst down like Sherlocks, you need Melodic or Punisher
I have SFX FQV SQH LOFA MFF and SWJ should I swop sfx to mockman and build PDE over MFF I’m more of a mid end game account mainly campaign focusing now. Any suggestions?
Best move is to focus SWJ for everything that can be CC'd, FQV when they can't. It's lighter on subs and gives you enough to make stable progress. Swapping SFX to PDE keeps the Jahra tenant but is a better hero. ATD is also an option as his speed debuff is clutch, but you'd then need to build Holmes Young to be the Jahra tenants (not an issue though).
Hi everyone!:) I have FQV, SQH, SWJ, LFA, SFX. Who should I build next? MFF or SSM? I'm interesting in void campaign and void vortex. Have B copies of both heroes. Any advice?
Swap SFX to MFF. With that many Transcendence heroes, you should have enough demon Bells by now (12-16) to focus on Jahra. Then for 6th, ATD or PDE.
@@MKxJUMP I have only two 3* demon bells(f2p btw) Jahra tree lvl 5, others are lvl1. Also I have one 3* ryu, 3* punisher, 3* crown and 3* antlers. stuck at 1-4-2 right now. Ty so much for advice, Best wishes and pls continue creating videos!:)
I have sqh, sfx and fqv, the question is should i swap sqh for lofa?
Do you need her? Simple answer: No.
Longer answer: You never need a specific hero. DH Games will strongly hint that you need certain existing or upcoming heroes to make you chase them right now but it's a scam. As of now there is no progression locked behind one specific hero or a utility that only a singular hero has. Whenever there is a progression block where 1 specific hero is the easy meta answer, there is always the option to replace it with multiple lesser heroes or a synergy thereof.
One specific Trans hero needed for each level of campaign. This is exhausting, lol.
It's only Sherlock, Holmes and Valkyrie that cause problems. Everything else can be done with the same team.
Build her as my 6th trans, with sfx swap no regret amazing pvp
Am f2p and run SSM,LOFA and Elena it’s an alt account and am close to 4th transcendence no idea where am going with this team 😂
F2P and SSM + LFA is weird. Typically, you want SSM, LFA and then SAHY with his core. This is usually only a viable route if you spend money.
@@MKxJUMP I just wanted to build something different because I have other acc with SFX main so it kinda become dark transcendence account lol.Thanks for the response and advice I appreciate it and always happy to watch your content helped me a lot
I swapped Fairy queen vesa for her lol I regret nothing I was bored of vesa anyway
who can help pass the quest with Elena on ios
I've got FQV, LFA, SWJ and SSM which hero should I go for as my 5th transcendence hero?
Since you already got damage dealer, cc and healing, halora or freya would be a good addition for their damage buffs.
Assuming you're using the SSM properly. The actual best move is to use SAHY with his core. Obviously, if you're F2P/budget that ain't gonna happen, so SQH would be a good choice for burst. That's assuming you have sublimation to back that up (which hopefully you do considering you chose SSM).
@@MKxJUMP F2P all the way ...
i will build 10 star Gerke
Yes shes good
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I’ve got an fq vesa and mf freya, should i change freya for an other trans hero?
wow
What happens when PDE is lowest HP hero on the team? Does the shield thing go to the second lowest, or does she apply it twice to herself?
And does that happen when she is highest attack aswell?
Highly unlikely she will have the highest attack since you shouldn't have her as a Homeowner, but for lowest HP I do assume it goes to the second lowest since it targets an ally.
@@XxTheDon786xX well it just because both things seems to work in the same way
Nice stream today 🚮🍻
So basically not suggested to have Elena as your first transcendence hero 🤣
hehe
You said "Doo Doo"
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