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How I Paint Things - Contrast: WWII German Grenadiers
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- If you're painting goblins, guardsmen or the like, Citadel's range of Contrast paints are a great tool for getting good-looking results quickly. But what about something more historical than Space Marines and Stormcast? READ MORE:
In my ever-so-humble opinion, I think they're a great tool with a lot of potential use in the historical wargaming space. To my mind, there's three typical 'styles' when one thinks of painting miniatures: toy soldiers, Hollywood, or display pieces. Typically, I tend to find most wargamers sit somewhere toward the center of the Hollywood look - mostly accurate, with a handful of deliberate errors or omissions that make painting simpler or save money on a couple of paints! These Contrast paints definitely lean a little further toward the 'toy soldier' look, but I don't think that need be a terrible thing, especially considering how quickly you can get painted miniatures on the table. Ultimately, it all looks better than grey plastic and bare metal!
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Do I think these would work for Napoleonic figures, troops of the American Civil War, or even further back? I certainly think so! There's a little bit of playing around required and you do need to buy into the style, but ultimately they're pretty nifty additions to a painter's arsenal.
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PAINTS USED:
CONTRAST:
Skeleton Horde
Creed Camo
Wyldwood
Snakebite Leather
Basilicanum Grey
Militarum Green
Cygor Brown
Guilliman Flesh
Black Templar
BASE:
Grey Seer
Wraith Bone
TECHNICAL:
Stormshield Varnish
THE BASE RECIPE:
Stirland Mud, followed by heavy overbrush with Gorthor Brown and light drybrush of Tyrant Skull. Paint base ring in Dryad Bark and add tufts!
Been loving this and your other "Paint X from WW2 using contrast" vids. Would love to see your take on Fallschirmjager too!
I would like to second that - I would _really_ like to see that please!
I've been working on this a bit more and experimenting, and my application is getting better. I do think I was using too much green in my first attempts - for some reason I was doing it 1:1 with the grey before. Now at 2:1 grey to green it looks a lot better.
I've made two little changes to this method - I use Aggaros Dunes for the gaiters because Skeleton Horde is such a weak color. Also, I found a decent way to simulate metal - 2:1 Basilicanum Grey to Space Wolves Grey. A couple thin coats of that makes the weapons look like steel.
Thanks again for showing me that Contrast paints can get good results! I never used them for much before aside from shade, since I always did Space Marines.
Thanks for a really helpful video. I have just bought a few of these paints to see how they work, but being an historical painter your video is perfectly timed for me!
The finished article looks excellent!
I used contrast to knock out a lot of Flames of war Infantry Thanks for this.
I used this to start painting my first BA models. Worked like a charm. Only finished 3 so far but it didn’t take long at all. Thanks a ton!
You can make your own contrast paints.
1 part paint
1 part Liquitex Matte Medium
Small amount of dish soap. (Breaks the surface tension)
This recipe will allow you to use any color you'd like. It has been around for years. With GW doing contrast paints the technique has entered the spot light like it is brand new.
I remember the same being said of ink washes back in the day, before GW even updated their own inks to washes. Always available, certainly, though there's something to be said for the convenience factor of everything mixed up in a pot to use straight away! I do still have a soft spot for Winsor Newton's yellow ink, though - that stuff's fantastic over just about any white undercoat you can name.
GW being such a prominent force does mean it helps launch awareness of a lot of techniques that aren't otherwise commonly known. A fair few chaps I know in the hobbying circles have been ink painting Orks for years, but there's only so far individual voices can reach; when the big names do it, it attracts attention. At the last, though, people will have a little more opportunity to see what is possible.
Great paint scheme to use for the grenadiers in the hit the beach boxed game.
It is great to see a tutorial from you again! I understand the pressures of work and unfortunately it takes me away from my bench too. I am impressed with how well the Contrast Paints work on historical miniatures. I did not think the colors had enough range but clearly they do. Excellent painting work on the miniature and this was a great video.
@sonic sledgehammer studio : If you want to knock down the shine of the end result, I found a thin coat of pure lanthium medium does the trick, and goes on nicely.
I just used this method. Looks awesome.
I went over with the feld grau mix once again, after I had to stop the other evening.
It really makes a great difference. The 1.5 times is perfect
First off, congratulations on the full-time employment! Secondly, I am so glad to see you back online. You're my most favorite CZcams channel! I missed your content. 3rd, I like what you're able to do with those contrast paints. I think I will have another look at some of them. All the best to and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. Cheers!
Thank you kindly! It's good to be able to find the time to get these packed away. I'm always surprised folks are still out there waiting for these things. ;D
Want to let you know I find your videos fantastic. Just outstanding. Thanks so much for making them!
So glad your back, This was incredibly educational as to the workings of the new line of paints. Thank you Sir!!!
Great looking figure. Ive not used contrast painting as I'm still learning the ropes. Cracking looking guy. thanks for sharing, N
Thanks for this video which convinced me to try the contrast method. I got not that much time to paint and I usually spend 4h to paint 1 miniature, which is not compatible with completing an army... So thank you very much!
I wish I had the time to spend on every single miniature, but likewise, I try to find ways to speed up my work for the limited hobby time I get. Good luck on completing that army! :D
I'm so happy to see you back with us :)
Hooray! He's not dead lol I'm sorry to hear you were away cos of work and not a nice holiday.
Glad to see you back. I was wondering why we hadn't seen any content from you recently :)
This looks great, i was a bit hesitant about using the contrast for bolt action but damn, im going to try this out
So much easier than I thought. Awesome, thanks!
Good video thanks for posting this. You do a really good job of presenting informative, very watchable videos. I was skeptical of the contrast paints at first, but I’m definitely going to give them a try out. 👍
I think it does require going in knowing what to expect from them. They aren't a magic cure all that'll give you perfect miniatures, but as far as 'pretty good' goes and an army painted over a weekend... they're not bad at all!
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio I actually gave it a go yesterday in small sample. I think it will work great as long as the model/figure has a proper base and or primer coat. I used one of the goofy named greys over a white primed arm and I like it.
finally! missed you! Nice to see a video again from you. good al always. thanks a lot!
Am learning a hole lot from your videos your a great painter keep up the great work on your miniatures happy modeling and painting your the king of miniatures painting have a nice day be safe
Great to have you back. Really enjoyed this, thank you. Do you have plans to do some more WWII? A ‘contrast’ Desert Rat would be great to see.
There's been a fair few comments in places asking about the 8th Army. I'm playing around behind the scenes to see how best to try and replicate the uniform - I'd love a few more khaki tones in the Contrast range. ;D
Love this series of videos, love contrast paints so these are really useful thanks so much :D
Looks very nice sir, well done!
Im working on a HUGE historical ( Thirty years war ) army at the moment. And I also trying out the contrast paints to see if it can speed up the work and still keep the quality at a good level.
So this is very intressting to see how every one getting different results from their contrast paint.
Thank you for a good video.
No nonsense quality guide. Perfect mix of realism but not getting too hung up on it. Would love to see how you'd approach waffen ss camos.
Loved the vid! Really hoping for more WWII contrast toutorials. Hoping for some Flames of War guides, as Im curious on how they perform at 15mm.
czcams.com/video/6Hmx2xR0Y8E/video.html this channel has some
I am going to steal this method 100% excellent looking grenadier.
Your work is stunning andso easy to follow thank you for your videos
Good to have you back. This dude looks great!
We understand if you need to cut down on vids to accomodate job time. Better job = more money = more minis. Win-win.
Hi sonic, great to see you are back! Your Death guard and crimson fist videos are awesome. They strike a great balance between painting speed and still providing detail. Would love to see you make an episode on poxwalkers. Keep up the good work!
Absolutely incredible job!!!!!
Wonderful results! Im almost a bit annoyed that, just a few of days ago, i spent a couple of hours painting my first dozen germans following the previous method you had showed off, only to have
the article Mike put up yesterday pushing me to order contrasts paints and you dropping this vid, with the results being better than i would have expected, making me want a couple more of the colors from the range :P
If helps at all, the one that I'd thoroughly recommend as an addition would be Guilliman Flesh. That stuff is absolute magic for bog standard infantry, and with a highlight or two if you want to get technical you've got an excellent basis for any characters as well. :D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio That flesh contrast was the one that first i added to my order :)
In my Crimson Fists army i converted every power armor mini that didnt have a helmet to get one, dremeling bare librarian heads out of psychic hoods, cutting away tech marine heads etc and scouts got third party jin-roh/helghast looking heads in part because i really dislike painting skin.
In the two orders ive placed i have all the colors you list except for skeleton horde that was out at both retailers, i figure ill try thinning one of the browns with contrast medium and hoping that works out, otherwise ill just use a regular wash.
Im mixing my Warlord Late War Grenadiers with their Afrika Korps box for more bodies without the zeltbahns because i dont really like those and also to get more uncovered helmet heads, the light mortars, prone LMGs and Pz 39 AT rifles, the uniforms look alike enough that when painted in "feldgrau" they should be almost indistinguishable except that i dont think they have gamaschen/gaiters.
Getting on with these Germans is making think of using them as part of a combined Guard/Marines army, might try painting some Primaris Marines in Feldgrau or, since they are the elite shock troops if the imperium, maybe Black SS Parade Battle Armor :D
Well done, nice technique and impressive close ups!
Getting the hang of using that whirly spinny whatsit, now. ;)
It's good to have you back!
Nice video. Been using contrast paints on a lot of parts for my Japanese SLNF since they came out. I have quite a few actual Japanese ww2 weapons in my safe at home so I can see the color of the woods and metals used first hand. I found snakebite leather contrast is the perfect wood color. For my gun metals I paint them boltgun metal(GW) first and then use the Templar Black contrast on them. Makes them identical to the real things. I dont have any real German weapons to compare to but I assume it would be similar given the time period. Looking forward to trying the fleshtones out, didn't have any of them the last time I painted any faces or hands. Your results look frikking awesome.
OMG I love it, very much thanks for this video!
Looks great. Thanks!
Very nice!
So happy you are back! Missed your content. When do you tackle Warcry?
Not any time soon, I'm afraid. Warcry's one that doesn't really grab me, and my wallet could do with a breather before we get those Sisters of Battle finally dropping!
Nice work Sledge.
Great tutorial! I'm liking the contrast paints and just ordered the bolt action band of brothers starter, so this was very useful. Are you planning on doing a contrast tutorial for the US airborne as well..?
In time I'm hoping to do a little of everything with the Contrast paints. They take a bit of experimentation to get the best results out of them, I'm finding, so I'd want to make sure I've got as close to 'right' as possible with them first! :)
This is great and what I was looking for. I have German bolt action figs to paint that I want to use contrast paints. Thinking it would be quicker and I wanted to try them out. Thank you!
Damn. It takes me about 2 hours to do one maybe two figures!!
I need to figure out out to paint faster or just run all my soldiers in primer.
Jealous. It probably takes me 20 hours to do 1
I really appreciate this video. I picked up Konflikt '47 last week - I'm primarily a Dust player but the walkers appeal to me - and I really need a way to get 2 dozen Grenadiers table-ready without spending a month or two to do so. Add in the fact that I have pretty much the entire Contrast line, as opposed to very few military paints such as Vallejo Model Colors. Can't wait to give this a try!
I never quite got the walking tank concept, but Konflikt is one I might have to take a look at eventually. Some of the differences in game mechanics between it and Bolt Action are intriguing - getting rid of templates will always make me happy! ;D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio So my first attempt went poorly - stripped it down and tried again and it seemed to work. My results weren't nearly as impressive nor quick as yours but it's a good start.
They can take a little getting used to, it's true! When I first started using them I couldn't seem to replicate any of what I'd seen - I still can't figure out how people are getting perfect smooth power armour with them, for example! I think the trick with them is to have more on your brush than you might expect, but not as much as you'd think. A hopeless bit of advice, really, but it's how it best makes sense in my head. ;)
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio I get what you mean though - for me it's just the balancing act between going on so sparsely it looks spotty, or going on so heavy it just looks like bad "regular" paint.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio If you'd like to have a look at my results, please have a look at my page on FB, The Sage Brush. I've given you a mention and linked the video. I have to say that the Contrast Leutnant compares quite favorably to the speed-painted (or at least fast for me) Observer.
Well down, you are the first person to paint the boots the correct colour. "clapping"
Looks awesome! Good vid thanks!!
I meant to ask - do you ever paint metal figures? Do you find there's a difference between painting metal or plastic figures?
There isn't a huge difference ordinarily, except when it comes to using washes and the Citadel Contrast line. Some metal figures will have slight pits or imperfections in their surface; nothing out of the ordinary, but which can become particularly noticeable after using Contrast on them. Minding how you apply your primer and ensuring even, smooth coverage will ordinarily take care of the most of that.
GREAT SO SO SO GLAD OVER THIS VID!!!!!!!'
Don't let real life get in the way of your excellent videos !! Paint more
Ha! I wish it were that simple. ;D
So glad you are back!
Can you do a fallschirmjäger tutorial next with contrast ?
please make cadian trooper with contrast colors, and battle damage with cadian trooper😁
I'm planning on mixing the feldgrau colour with two pots of Basilicanum and one pot of Creed into a larger dropper bottle. Thanks!!!!!!!
That will give you a HUGE amount of feldgrau! Might be worth splitting it from smaller bottles - I'd doubt you would need three whole bottles' worth of any colour for a while. ;D
I don't like to measure out stuff and I can write down the recipe on the 2 oz bottle. . Plus its a new that I can use on other projects. Oh, Iyaden yellow thinned down is good for Panzerfauste and Panzerschreke.
Awesome, I now have the colors for my Blood Axe Kill Team!!
Waaagh!
Painted the free US troops on the front of one of the wargames mags with contrast couple of days back ....might move onto the germans I have now. Good Work :)
Damn that looks so good!!
Hi I love watching how easily you paint up these miniatures.could you tell me what type and make of varnish you use as I have had problems recently with different varnishes. Perhaps this question could be turned into a topic for a future video. Cheers Stephen.
I used the new Citadel Stormshield from the pot for this bloke. Really quite pleased with how smooth it dried! As it happens, though, I've actually touched on varnishes before! Here's a couple other additional bits you might find useful: czcams.com/video/XYHap2-693A/video.html
Cheers and I will check this out shortly.cheers Stephen.
Checked out the clip on varnishing and it was very informative a great help cheers again and keep the videos coming.i really look forward to seeing them.
I'm a fan of a quick highlight over contrast, any idea what gw paint could be used for your field grey uniform colour?
LOOOOVE THIS!!!!
I'm gonna try this now, ta for the info
Please do contrast Cadian Shock Troops!
Any chance for more Bolt Action minis? Maybe US Airborne painted with Contract to finish the Band of Brothers set?
There's a few more Bolt Action videos here already, though I've been experimenting with Contrast on other historical stuff to see what might work. Paratroopers certainly seem possible!
Very very nice
I bet this camo would work with cadian shock troops
Any thoughts on using what Contrast to get Olive Grey for Italians?
Can you do more bolt action with contrast? :) yours are the best one so :) :)
I done everything you did but for whatever reason I can seem to get my German as smooth looking finish as yours, mine seem a little Chalky. Can you explain why? Thanks
Could be that the primer isn't quite perfectly smooth, but ordinarily a varnish afterwards will help pull everything together and even out the finish.
Great video, quick question… what type of varnish do you use? Any difference when using contrast paints be normal paints?
Any brush-on or spray varnish will work just the same over dried Contrast. You don't need to treat it any differently, but it is quite susceptible to rubbing off from repeat handling so you definitely want to protect your gaming figures.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio saw in your notes that you used stormshield technical. Presume this a Matt finish?
Do you think this recipe could work on vehicles with contrast paints or should I rather use traditional paints for that?
The vehicles tend to be totally different colours to the infantry, anyhow. Due to the large flat surfaces involved I'd probably stick to traditional methods; Contrast works much better with plenty of detail to flow over and around.
Sonic Sledgehammer Studio
All right, thank you :)
Hi there. Thanks a lot for your help! I have a question. Could you do another tutorial explaining how to paint with Contrast other soldier that has no Camo on? Sorry for my awful English and thanks again!
Beautiful work.Whats that turntable you have there to disply the figure ?.Who makes that ?.
would really love to see other nation paited using contrast . german paras would be nice (late war)
What colour would you use for the gas mask case?
Creed Camo should do the job.
Accidentally ordered wraith bone instead of grey seer, would a german still look alright with that as a base coat? I noticed that you said the Army painters range of spray paints are similar, so would uniform grey work? Or would that be too dark?
Uniform Grey is pretty dark by comparison to Grey Seer. It's a great primer, though - I use it for my Germans when I'm painting them using the traditional methods. I can't really say how different the Wraith Bone Grenadier might look compared to how I did this one, but it couldn't hurt to give it a shot and see how it turns out!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Just decided "Sod it" and painted one up. Looks good but my only complaint is the feldgrau is too green, which could be a combination of the spray and needing more grey in the mix. Overall though, really good. Thanks so much!
You beauty, I’ve just started priming my Germans and was trying to figure out a contrast recipe for Feldgrau
If you're planning on making up an army using this stuff, it might be worth getting a mixing bottle so you've got a bunch of it ready to use. :D
Love it, I’ll embed this in the original article once I get back from New York tonight!
Very nice! What about a winter theme for germans or Finnish?
Can you achieve the same effect by layering the green over the grey? Or is it better to make the 2:1 mixture?
Do you not have to prime Bolt Action miniatures, or is it just when applying contrast paints that you don't? Thank you.
Have you tried the contrast paint for your Imperial Fists?
Not yet! I'm not sure about the effect over large areas of flat armour, but it can't hurt to experiment with some of the easy to build kits.
Looks great :D Alotugh casual like me won't buy these paints to soon :D
Do you think it’s possible to paint Afrika Korp using contrast paints? I would like to see a video on that as I’m struggle to get the right look with mine 🤔
I've been experimenting with these over different primers to see what else you could paint with them. Afrika Korps seem like a logical extension, but there's one or two things that are difficult to replicate as closely to the uniforms as you can on the Grenadier here.
There you are...Yay! Band of Brothers campaign herw I come...
Can you tell the list of the colors you use with this miniatures? Its was a great job!
All listed in the description. :)
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thanks!
Why didn't you prime the mini before painting?
It is primed? "I've primed this guy with Grey Seer." You don't want to paint straight on to bare plastic!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Wow! That's an impressive primer. I thought you were painting on the bare plastic. Thanks!
@@soldierforchrist631 It's really good stuff. Both Grey Seer and its partner primer Wraithbone are incredibly smooth, ideal for Contrast.
Wow Damn...it cost $43 to get that Redgrass brush shipped to me. No way would i use it on contrast paints. Wish i could get equipment like that.
This video's almost four years old, and I'm still using the same brush. It doesn't have to be a Redgrass brush, of course, but I find it's often cheaper in the long run to make an investment in decent tools and just look after them well rather than replacing them every six months. Still, past a point, a brush is a brush as long as it holds its tip.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thats awesome dude. Sounds like a great brush. But my head would be on a spike if is spent that much on one of those.
How would you paint a Panzerfaust with Contrast? :)
Couple of coats of either Creed Camo or Aggaros Dunes.
You do realize that when you finish and put it on display the camera is still too far away to even see anything you can’t even designate what is what is far as his gear obviously you can tell what a rifle is but it’s so far away you can’t even tell what type it is… Will you zoom in on the finale and give us a close-up please…!!!!!!!
It's a two year old video - I can't do much about zooming in now, unfortunately. The product page for the Grenadiers might be of some help, though: eu.warlordgames.com/products/german-grenadiers-plastic-box-set?
Otherwise, MP44.nl is where I go for the most comprehensive photos and breakdown of German kit: mp44.nl/equipment.htm
What "almost working full time" has cut into your hobby time? What a shame that is...
Well, not so much my own time as the time required to do these videos. Fifteen minutes on screen takes about three hours work in some form or other, so it does make for a challenge to find the time necessary when I'm not the unemployed bum I was when I started on these!