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  • The BZ-176 is a game breaking monster in World of Tanks! Here's why Wargaming should NEVER sell it again featuring la_bot!
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Komentáře • 896

  • @eisenkarl1975
    @eisenkarl1975 Před 9 měsíci +920

    I'm old enough to remember the times when premium tanks aimed to be slightly worse than their fully upgraded tech tree equivalents. 😞

    • @achmegrules145
      @achmegrules145 Před 9 měsíci +42

      Only one I would say was better than the tech tree tank is the Lowe.

    • @rrenkrieg7988
      @rrenkrieg7988 Před 9 měsíci +42

      @@achmegrules145 it was still balanced though, you can still outDPM it, or snipe it's lower plate down,

    • @konnerkramer329
      @konnerkramer329 Před 9 měsíci +26

      ​@@achmegrules145ehh the tiger 2 was a pretty even fight for the lowe.

    • @Endkeeper
      @Endkeeper Před 9 měsíci +5

      Good times… good times 😢

    • @TheSrSunday
      @TheSrSunday Před 9 měsíci +15

      That ended with the Type 59 premium Chinese medium, but it has been nerfed to oblivion since then.

  • @richardpesek7483
    @richardpesek7483 Před 9 měsíci +375

    The worst time was Christmas 2022 where you had platoon of these absolutely destroying everyone

    • @Omegawerewolfx
      @Omegawerewolfx Před 9 měsíci +11

      you mean the BEST time

    • @richardpesek7483
      @richardpesek7483 Před 9 měsíci +19

      @@Omegawerewolfx i guess its a matter of perspective haha

    • @nathanr7931
      @nathanr7931 Před 9 měsíci +7

      I can't wait to buy one myself

    • @Ace42x
      @Ace42x Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yah, I was brute-forcing my way through to my first tier 10, and these made it unplayable. Not been back since.
      Was the same when I got the TS, played one game - instantly broke my own personal bests because it was an indestructible monster that the enemy couldn't bounce, couldn't bring myself to play it again because it was so cheap and P2Win.

    • @richardpesek7483
      @richardpesek7483 Před 9 měsíci

      I think most people share the same sentiment @@nathanr7931

  • @Arphila
    @Arphila Před 9 měsíci +267

    WG: OK ... OK ... we won't sell it by itself ...
    Also WG: We'll put it in a loot box instead!

    • @neokorps4580
      @neokorps4580 Před 9 měsíci +3

      PROFIT!

    • @voster77hh
      @voster77hh Před 9 měsíci +2

      Driving home for Xmas shallalala

    • @greggo34
      @greggo34 Před 9 měsíci +1

      we are paying for the box and a the tank is free :)

    • @voster77hh
      @voster77hh Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@greggo34 Nope. Legally you buy a lottery ticket and it's a win. So you would make retroactive changes to a concluded lottery.
      You have product laws, digital product laws, terms & conditions plus gambling laws. You multiply that by an legal system jurisdiction it was sold in.
      I don't think you can cancel or refund a concluded lottery. That's even worse than just undo a product sale by a refund.
      The very best thing is to kill the profitability of it. WG should make the shell prices a pure luxury.

    • @jeffreygreene2379
      @jeffreygreene2379 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It came from a loot box and as QB said it should never be sold again.

  • @Pales27
    @Pales27 Před 9 měsíci +60

    0:46 This turret traverse speed is so amazing :D

  • @gebhard128
    @gebhard128 Před 9 měsíci +123

    just madness this thing is equal tier then something like a Panther II or CS 53, oneshotting most of T6 vehicles and even some T7s, evrytime this vehicle is in your battle 29 Players get a bad experience

    • @Lo-tf6qt
      @Lo-tf6qt Před 9 měsíci +12

      The fact that an Easy 8 or a KV-1S can face up against this thing is mad

    • @helohel5915
      @helohel5915 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Oh and then it also 2 shots every tier 8 HT... and 3-6 shots anything higher tier than it

    • @BlackoutGootraxian
      @BlackoutGootraxian Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@Lo-tf6qt This is why i say that tier 6 has -2/+4 matchmaking these days. Bz-176 could easily pass off as a tier 10 and it wouldnt be bad.

    • @Lo-tf6qt
      @Lo-tf6qt Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@BlackoutGootraxianHonestly it sucks when I'm tryna have fun in my Thunderbolt VII and some fucker in a Bz or a Renegade or whatever ungodly tier 8 premium gets shoved into my match.
      Don't get me wrong, I'm not sayin I wanna be top tier and bully tier 4's all the time, but I just want a match where my vehicle can acc contribute to the team instead of just delaying the inevitable.

    • @roqeyt3566
      @roqeyt3566 Před 9 měsíci

      Or a CDC, ripper patton, all that...

  • @Daktangle
    @Daktangle Před 9 měsíci +161

    2 tanks I can think of that have similar scary damage are the Kv-2 and the FV4005 II, but they both have the same weakness, a massive turret with poor armour. The BZ-176 packs the punch of the FV as you say, AND it's a hulldown monster. Sure it has that weakspot on the gun cover, but it's nothing like the massive turrets of the other two.

    • @KC-yk5xe
      @KC-yk5xe Před 9 měsíci +4

      agreed this should have been a semi glass cannon heavy, or at very least bigger cupola

    • @TROLGUY999
      @TROLGUY999 Před 9 měsíci +16

      not to mention its ouragues frontal armor. Even the lower and mid plate ive bounced countless times with 330/340 tier 10 HEAT rounds...other tanks sacrifice EVERYTHING to have such alpha, like fv4005, isu152, Kv2...this tank has it all. It could literally be a tier 10 and noone would complain

    • @voster77hh
      @voster77hh Před 9 měsíci +1

      I seem to frequently miss that turret weak spot quickly hidden due in my aim time. In most cases I won't have any usable angle on it. Then I get those massive alpha shots traded. Apparently I'm not the only one.
      I would pay 200 to 250 bucks hands down for that tank. Simply recover that by the insane profitablity.
      In case I hadn't taken a break in that year from WoT I would own it.
      Wargaming did an amazing great job to rebalance WoT - maps, tanks and everything.
      This single massive virtual tank design glitch wasted tremendous effort of entire dev teams.
      So no one gives them any praise for their hard work.
      The Bz idea is utterly self-defeating and rips apart anything in WG quality control department.
      At best WG would invite some volunteer players into a council on game balance to speak for the community.
      I understand the may be a need for quick money at times. Hoever, this was planned well ahead for Xmas.
      The surprise did take precedence over sanity once again.
      Such council may be bound by terms of secrecy as they do like. In the long term the narcisstic psychopath stats inflaters always winning will run the entire game and render the whole X-million dollar biz unplayable. Stats resets are almost unmagenable. in case you cloned out some WoT classic before EBR updatemost players would opt for it, provided it had similar quality of life and maps improvements ets. EBR straight out ruined Frontline mode experience for everyone.
      Since then we saw one after another tank trying to keep players engage frustrated by the faster EBR game. WG design department fell into creating insane copium tanks on a coveyor belt.
      The real issue with the tank is unequal access. a 15 Bz-176 vs 15 Bz-176 in the queue would be a perfectl balances high skill contest. it would totally end all balancing discussion. People would play their Clan Wars in Tier 10 battles in BZ.176 ignoring thos 2 tiers. That thing is competitive against Tier 10s - at least like the better tier 9s with Tier 10 turrets and gun.

    • @andriidesu2936
      @andriidesu2936 Před 9 měsíci

      To be fair kv 2 doesn’t even have that bad of a turret, it can certainly bounce tier6/7 tanks from time to time. Although fv definitely has an abhorrent turret

    • @vass7885
      @vass7885 Před 9 měsíci +3

      KV-2 can't pen frontally almost every tanks it can face with HE.

  • @MrSomnus2001
    @MrSomnus2001 Před 9 měsíci +38

    I hate these things so much! Especially when you're playing a medium. You race to your starting position only to find one of these monstrosities already there hull down and ready to make 3/4 of your hit points disappear. Or if, by some miracle you get there first, they can just charge across the remaining distance while daring you to try and hit that narrow strip on the lowest plate or get the angle on the top of their turret. 'Cause even gold rounds aren't reliably going through anyplace else.

    • @AetherYes
      @AetherYes Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hey you hate BZ-176 wanna see how I "NERF" them ?

  • @NK-ly3cp
    @NK-ly3cp Před 9 měsíci +214

    I remember old WOT..
    Its painful to think that we'll never have to that back. It wasn't perfect but it was enjoyable! Now days WOT is almost all about premium vehicles and stuff!

    • @rycor9117
      @rycor9117 Před 9 měsíci +11

      I agree I miss old WOT. Now I wait and hope and pray for Steel Aces to be something good.

    • @tungdapzai
      @tungdapzai Před 9 měsíci +2

      That’s the way of the game. No money no game. And players still pay money for it, they keep buying bz176 and other premium stuffs

    • @SmallPotato2313
      @SmallPotato2313 Před 9 měsíci +19

      Honestly the wot nowadays has many improvements over old wot it would be unfair to say that old wot was simply better. But i have to agree that wot nowadays isnt as enjoyable as before. Powercreep, questionable tank design (forcing players to use gold to have any fun cuz of too strong armor/lack of weakspots of most new tanks), boring hulldown meta... It seems to happen in many games that are out for more than 5-10 years like league of legends, dota or even war thunder.

    • @NK-ly3cp
      @NK-ly3cp Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@tungdapzai A game can be made profitable without having pay to win aspect to it. You can go for different skins, model enhancements etc. Other games have successfully done it and WOT can too.

    • @NK-ly3cp
      @NK-ly3cp Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@SmallPotato2313 See, in my opinion improvements matters only if they can attract more player base and retain current ones. We have to look at game as a single entity and not as fragments of improvements implemented by designers. As I said earlier, old game version was not perfect in overall sense but game was enjoyable. Players didn't outraged as much they do these days.

  • @achelseq9990
    @achelseq9990 Před 9 měsíci +16

    T8 FV with great armour, utterly unbelievable this isn’t being patched with great urgency. Pay to win continues to get out of hand

    • @posadist681
      @posadist681 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yup game is being ruined and we can only watch

    • @savethewhales1667
      @savethewhales1667 Před 7 měsíci

      Man it’s sad to see. Unfortunately I feel like this will continue cuz players continue to buy these tanks, which enables war gaming to continue to sell tanks like these.

  • @Bence3
    @Bence3 Před 9 měsíci +6

    lol i was in the enemy team, we were like lemmings... 😆

  • @finnodaffy5906
    @finnodaffy5906 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I saw players spam "Nerf BZ-176" on every community post on Wargaming WoT channel

  • @llaabboott
    @llaabboott Před 9 měsíci +4

    Thank you @Quickybaby for making review of my play and this OP tank!

  • @Q-presss
    @Q-presss Před 9 měsíci +5

    This same thing happened YEARS ago when WG released the type 59 before the Chinese tech tree went into the game. Everyone had them and at their release, they were almost invincible. They destroyed MM for a while until WG finally nerfed the hell out of it.

  • @NelsonPimenta93
    @NelsonPimenta93 Před 9 měsíci +20

    Honestly, the premium rounds being HE should have less penetration than the standard AP rounds, especially with 800 dmg. It would be a good way to balance the tank.

    • @theroyle7098
      @theroyle7098 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Cheers for your honesty sherlock

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 9 měsíci

      The tank also has great gun handling, great armor and decent speed

  • @nathanhood2415
    @nathanhood2415 Před 9 měsíci +5

    No mention to the Ferdinand that crashed in the end?? 😂

  • @Faifainei
    @Faifainei Před 9 měsíci +6

    It is the definition of oppressive. Whenever there is a bz on enemy team playing t6-8 mm it is basically like playing hide and seek. Because if you come across it, you will lose.

  • @christosgkr8140
    @christosgkr8140 Před 9 měsíci +66

    This is the old Type5 at tier 8

    • @Steamrick
      @Steamrick Před 9 měsíci +6

      The lower plate isn't nearly as good and you can overmatch the gun housing roof with bigger calibers... but yes. And it's more mobile when it has the rockets going.

    • @christosgkr8140
      @christosgkr8140 Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@Steamrick I'm referring to the old derp gun of the Type5
      With the 1,100 alpha and the higher pen on the gold

    • @maxjuhk
      @maxjuhk Před 9 měsíci

      But Much better that the type 5

  • @kermitage
    @kermitage Před 9 měsíci +4

    Not sure how it works in the UK, but here in the EU it goes like this: if they change it (nerf or move up a tier) they will have to refund players all the (millions) of EUR they had spent to get this tank. As an example, if one has known that he/she would have gotten in max. 100 boxes and he/she indeed got it in box No100 - such person would be entitled to getting the full refund for all those boxes. The only valid option for WG is not to sell it again in predictable future, like they once did with Type 59 and like they are doing with premium EBR 75 right now.

    • @jksoler
      @jksoler Před 9 měsíci +2

      Exactly. Imagine you buy a BMW but it gets replaced by a Ford some months later. Who would buy BMWs?

    • @mahazroko6753
      @mahazroko6753 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm sure there is a clause somewhere in the ToS that lets Wargaming do whatever they want to the tank. It's their property, you just bought the rights to use it.

    • @jksoler
      @jksoler Před 9 měsíci

      @@mahazroko6753 I am sure there is, but the next day the company's reputation would be tarnished for ever. Who would buy a digital product from WG knowing that they can change it at their whim, overnight? Even the mafia have a code of honour.

    • @durachoks
      @durachoks Před 9 měsíci

      yeah, right, if they change it you wont get shit, pretty sure they can do whatever they want with premium tanks, they just dont mess around it because they will lose trust

    • @tinand69420
      @tinand69420 Před 8 měsíci

      well legally by "buying" a premium tank you just get the right to use the property of WG, so no legal basis for refunds actually. the super pershing situation and its refunds were mere appeasement to WG's costumers

  • @BCHAN14
    @BCHAN14 Před 9 měsíci +43

    0:46 Wow, no wonder they shouldn’t sell this again, it has a turret traverse speed of 1000 degrees a second!

  • @tompayne4945
    @tompayne4945 Před 9 měsíci +72

    They could stealth nerf this thing by giving it the equivalent opposite of pref matchmaking. Only seeing t8 or above. I think it would be less popular and be easier to deal with. If I'm higher tier than one I make it my mission to make their game quick and miserable 🎉

    • @tankrider6897
      @tankrider6897 Před 9 měsíci

      All they have to do is nerf the roof armor by 1-2mm and it would be hugely impacted

    • @aytugdogru9726
      @aytugdogru9726 Před 9 měsíci +1

      This tank can do better in t9-10 battles bcs of more hit points they carry

    • @gyorgyr.6554
      @gyorgyr.6554 Před 9 měsíci +3

      but that doesnt make it worse. Actually, reverse pref. mm would be good for bz, because when you shoot at tier 6 and 7 tanks, they usually doesnt even have as much health as your alpha damage...

    • @voster77hh
      @voster77hh Před 9 měsíci +3

      It is hard for Tier 9s and Tier 10s to deal with it. It is like a better Tier 9 tank with Tier 10 gun & turret unlocked.
      Just give it to everyone and put it on permant sale.
      15 Bz-176 vs 15 Bz-176 are perfectly balanced. WG wouldn't lose money but get enough fast.
      Like everyone has a Progetto 46 by now.

    • @timeforgottenprince8271
      @timeforgottenprince8271 Před 9 měsíci

      I know some tech tree tanks have it so that they see higher tier matches than other tanks of equivalent tier (ex vk 30.06m), so doing the same for the BS 176 would be fantastic.

  • @Bruh-hw8sy
    @Bruh-hw8sy Před 9 měsíci +15

    The thing I hate most about this tank is the armor being too good. When tanks like the Skoda t56 and bourrasque dump there mags into me, at least I have a chance to pen them back, but with the Bz-176, I find myself always bouncing or missing the tiny lower plate it has.

    • @alekgustafson6483
      @alekgustafson6483 Před 9 měsíci

      agreed, I wouldnt mind it if it had a bigger weak point to shoot

    • @astanisystems
      @astanisystems Před 9 měsíci

      Škoda T56's turret is unpenable. You can't pen it, and since that's the case, most Škoda's go hull down. Renegade has too high alpha damage, Škoda has too high alpha and turret armor, BZ-176 has too high alpha, too high overall armor, and rocket boosters turn it into a battering ram. Bourrasque is such a nuisance and is OP in terms of gun alpha damage, mobility and view range/camo.
      Dishonorable mention: Iron Arnie is awfully annoying with spaced armor.
      Bunch of OP tanks. If I was a dev, I'd either nerf the hell out of these tanks, remove them entirely and compensate players, or buff every other non OP tank in the game.

    • @-saklo-2256
      @-saklo-2256 Před 9 měsíci

      @@astanisystems but Skoda T56 does not have -10 degrees gun depression... and it's long and unmaneuverable...

    • @astanisystems
      @astanisystems Před 9 měsíci

      @@-saklo-2256 Maybe, but it's gun should at least be nerfed in terms of alpha damage, or reload time on it could be increased. In my experience, Škoda T56 is much harder to deal with than one might think. You need two tanks to outflank it and kill it, as one on one approach nearly always results in a failure. Tank is OP, and that deserves a notice.

  • @StronkiTube
    @StronkiTube Před 9 měsíci +41

    I do agree this tank is very OP.
    However, let's be fair, the enemies in this replay played like massive idiots. They would have died to a more balanced tank as well with the way they played.

    • @tomassikora6879
      @tomassikora6879 Před 8 měsíci

      well not really the armor of bz176 just made it this way that he managed to win the game. Any other premium tank in this game would be 2 times dead or would be able to cause this amount of dmg... He literally two shots the 50Tp prototype. Show me other premium tank that can do it with 176hp left ....

    • @kamikakushi_
      @kamikakushi_ Před 8 měsíci

      Now imagine that instead of BZ-176, the highlighted player in the video used the M4A1 rev or AMX CDC.
      If the player still managed to stay alive and deal damage like this, then that's a great one.
      Otherwise, from the spectator pov, it was a boring game

    • @StronkiTube
      @StronkiTube Před 8 měsíci

      @@kamikakushi_ Yes compare Armored heavy to paper mediums. Very smart.

    • @kamikakushi_
      @kamikakushi_ Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@StronkiTubeYea whatever, don't really care. Not playing anymore anyway tho my point still stands.
      The player in the video showed us how laid back can you be in an OP tank.
      Doesn't matter if the enemy is smart enough to turn around, to avoid the chokehold in the valley or not, the result would still be the same if the player did not use a BS tank like this one.
      Don't believe me? make the ground resistance worse, triple the reload time and remove the BS jetpack.
      The enemy would have a bigger chance of winning if RNG allow them, even with those questionable move by enemy Tigers

    • @StronkiTube
      @StronkiTube Před 8 měsíci

      @@kamikakushi_ you're acting as if I don't think the BZ is OP.

  • @TheEvilscooter
    @TheEvilscooter Před 9 měsíci +1

    Imagine just playing your new tier 6 heavy tank just to get yeeted by this thing while you can't hope to pen it or even fight back

  • @inS41NT
    @inS41NT Před 9 měsíci +7

    X-Mas Boxes going to be wild this year.
    Turtle and BZ-176😂
    (my personal prediction)

  • @juanjodpr
    @juanjodpr Před 9 měsíci +9

    If this tank ever receives a nerf then other broken premium tanks like the Bourrasque, EVEN-90 and Skoda T56 should receive it too but I highly doubt the community won't demand for refunds like with the Type 59/SuperPershing episode. I suspect this tank will return for Christmas in the lootboxes and that's sad.

    • @AetherYes
      @AetherYes Před 9 měsíci

      Hey you do you hate BZ-176 ? Want me to show you how I "Nerf" them ?

    • @snowcrow__
      @snowcrow__ Před 8 měsíci

      Skoda is OP, but not broken.

  • @michael_0073
    @michael_0073 Před 9 měsíci +29

    yeah imagined you seeing 1x IS 3 , 1x AMX 50 100 vs 1x BZ 176 , 1 skoda T56 you can guess what its gonna be happen 😅

    • @sherbicko872
      @sherbicko872 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Problem is the skoda and bz can both remove a huge amount of health very quickly . The amx has a giant clip but if the skoda clips him then the bz can just 1 shot the amx and then its 1v2 for the Is3

    • @kosztypatrik7028
      @kosztypatrik7028 Před 9 měsíci

      YES

    • @Steelingz
      @Steelingz Před 9 měsíci

      same goes for tier 10, Just had el halluf, kpz chieftain vs fv215 obj 277, u can guess what happened

    • @deadzeddicious3684
      @deadzeddicious3684 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Skoda is so overrated. Great tank, but not even close to BZ 176 great

    • @sherbicko872
      @sherbicko872 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@deadzeddicious3684 i domt think it's overated to be honest. I agree that bz is better because of armor ,gun depresion and alpha. But skoda i a little more competetive. Overall mobility is better and it doesnt have a durp gun. Which means it can hit more often and has higher pen so its better against t9+ higher

  • @AT-cr4fc
    @AT-cr4fc Před 9 měsíci +2

    0:00 "Hi everyone, it's cookie baby.."

  • @ballistyxwot4577
    @ballistyxwot4577 Před 9 měsíci +1

    captions on video preview:
    "Hi everyone, it's Cookie Baby and welcome back to Water Tanks"

  • @htzak8194
    @htzak8194 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Personally I want some of the stuff that the WG balancing department is having. It must be something else. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @gregk1489
    @gregk1489 Před 9 měsíci +1

    i have that tank and don't play it a whole lot. but its nice to have when so many people are playing chieftons and 279e's and other OP clan wars tanks. its nice to have one of the OP tanks as a regular guy

  • @TheyCallMeGrim
    @TheyCallMeGrim Před 9 měsíci +42

    Since we have tier 9 premiums now, WG may want to consider shifting the BZ-176 up a tier. I would be happy to see it moved up to tier 9 as it is or with a small HP increase.

    • @onepunchbud1472
      @onepunchbud1472 Před 9 měsíci +7

      Actually a good idea. Even at T9 this thing would still be very strong.

    • @theroyle7098
      @theroyle7098 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Exactly. Although even then, the gun should still be addressed. Give it 238 AP pen and 190 HE.

    • @dallasuphold1745
      @dallasuphold1745 Před 9 měsíci

      That exactly what I was thinking. Horrible when you see this matched up with tier 6 and 7s who can do nothing to it. And I've seen where two show up on one team and none on the other. There's no "just play better" with that situation.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Před 9 měsíci +3

      That's *exactly* the nerf that I think the BZ should get. Give it something like 250-300 extra HP and buff the standard pen, and it'd be more than fine at Tier 9. But I'd still nerf the gold HE pen after that to make it less toxic.

    • @tylerdavisson355
      @tylerdavisson355 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@theroyle7098 No. It already fights Tier 9 and 10 as it is and it does fine. They should shift it to Tier 9 and do literally nothing to it.

  • @aryliah7207
    @aryliah7207 Před 9 měsíci +12

    They HAVE to nerf the BZ-176, its way to OP..
    Also, thank you so much QuickyBaby for making this video and calling out the bz-176 problem in the name of the wot community! I really hope wargaming will see this and finally nerf this tank as it should be

    • @artm1973
      @artm1973 Před 8 měsíci

      Every CC has been saying this since the BZ was released.

  • @crazy_pete5129
    @crazy_pete5129 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I think adding a new mode "tech tree only" would be a nice addition to let people play the game without all the OP premiums. Even a "NO GOLD TECH TREE ONLY" mode would be wonderful. It would certainly have me back playing alot more with it being balanced.

    • @ivelinemanoilov2147
      @ivelinemanoilov2147 Před 9 měsíci +3

      give this man some upvotes

    • @MatthiasBouillon
      @MatthiasBouillon Před 9 měsíci +4

      No gold tech tree? Hell no 😂
      Just think about E3, Maus, the buffed VK and more if gold isn't available anymore. It would destroy the game and just shift the meta tanks

    • @madcrasher1419
      @madcrasher1419 Před 9 měsíci +1

      So basically a mode for poor people?

    • @BeefIngot
      @BeefIngot Před 9 měsíci +1

      You have to understand thst if you aren't in their category of a payer, you're just there to be cannon fodder for their customers.
      This is a pay to win game, so you have to lose this mentality that they care about you if you spend less than 500 USD per year.
      You are fodder for the payers. Your opinions do not matter to them, heck the payers opinion doesn't even matter.
      All they care about is the payers cash flow. They care to optimize how much the payer pays, and that is quite literally the only metric they care about because players like you, constantly hoping for improvement and giving them the benefit of the doubt where there is no doubt left, prove to them that they have no leash at all, and that you will always stay to be fodder.
      The payers also show they are happy to pay for advantages as long as they can keep up their delusions that the game is fair and that their credit cards aren't a significant part of what makes them "skilled".
      Before I get the usual knee-jerk comment, before I stopped playing this game, my recents were super purple. I understood the mechanics of this game better than most. If 1000 players were in a room, I would most likely be the best player there.
      That is not to brag, I find it no brag at all, as I too was a payer.
      Instead, I only note this to preempt the usual attempts to discredit the message by people who would prefer remaining in denial by cheaply dismissing honest critics of a game they like to play and love to remain in denial with when talking about its balance.

    • @test_nametest_surname1794
      @test_nametest_surname1794 Před 9 měsíci

      @@BeefIngot you understand business model very well.

  • @oshinwane6902
    @oshinwane6902 Před 9 měsíci +3

    next year this is gonna be a "normal" premium tank like what the defender turned into...

  • @ermirohri
    @ermirohri Před 9 měsíci +1

    WG can do only one thing about that abomination, moving it one tier higher

  • @froodogga7053
    @froodogga7053 Před 9 měsíci +1

    best is when you have a platoon of 3 of them on other team and your team has none, and you are in a tier 6

  • @nenaddugistankovic
    @nenaddugistankovic Před 9 měsíci +3

    I played that AMX Cda 105 and if I hadn't rolled over in that fight I would have killed the BZ -176 for sure and the second shell that pierced it was from my tank hunter..However they gave me players who stared to die in that fight ..

  • @hunterreeves6525
    @hunterreeves6525 Před 9 měsíci +16

    I haven’t played the last couple years and for some reason I got the urge to come back, and it’s unbelievable. I feel like all the new t8 premiums are literally just tier 9s with a few less hp. T8 is hardly playable but I feel like t6 and t7 are completely unplayable, those used to be my escape tiers to relax but now they’re even worse than 8, 9, 10

    • @TheEvilscooter
      @TheEvilscooter Před 9 měsíci +2

      Roll out in your tier 6 prem tank to blow of some steam only to get yeeted into the shadow realm by the BZ...good luck fighting back if you survive the first shell

    • @narukami597
      @narukami597 Před 9 měsíci

      If you get in a game against 2 tier plus, yolo and die ASAP. That's the secret to having fun in this game.

    • @sergejodalovic
      @sergejodalovic Před 9 měsíci

      Actually, I'm feeling comfortable only in tier 10 these days..

  • @PBehr
    @PBehr Před 9 měsíci +2

    True they haven't sold the tank by itself but by putting it in loot boxes .... I don't see WG nerfing it when it has so much hype as being OP. They would rather cut off their nose to spite their faces. Greed is too powerful at WG HQ.

  • @marekadamovic7629
    @marekadamovic7629 Před 9 měsíci +3

    They will nerf it the same way as they nerfed Škoda t56 .. they will release something more OP on Christmas :,)

  • @airtiger360
    @airtiger360 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If WG can't/won't nerf the thing, they can at least do the thing they do with wheeled vehicles where in the MM, it's matched up against another BZ-176 on the enemy team.

  • @teukuchandra4734
    @teukuchandra4734 Před 9 měsíci

    This tank came out when i grind my Italian Heavy line, yeah. That was FUN

  • @nathanhood2415
    @nathanhood2415 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I didn’t get it at Christmas, wouldn’t mind it selling again so I can get it 😂. I’m pretty sure WG has already passed the point of “greed over balance”

  • @Omegawerewolfx
    @Omegawerewolfx Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm on NA with a 48% win rate (trending up) and I am at 52% win rate in the BZ 176. I don't play it as much because I can't afford using all the gold. I got better at it by seeing what other players were doing with their equipment.
    I really enjoy the t7. It's fantastic.

  • @Joshmakey12
    @Joshmakey12 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wargamjng “ok we don’t sell this one, this year in Christmas loot boxes Yuri we sell double barreled Russian version!”

  • @villelepoaho4105
    @villelepoaho4105 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember the good old days when premium tanks were equal or slightly worse than their tech tree counterparts. This tank should have 5 degrees of gun depression, less armor and/or be slower.

  • @rustedniddleslinger9475
    @rustedniddleslinger9475 Před 9 měsíci +5

    They should make the turret penable by premium rounds

  • @themomentchannel3498
    @themomentchannel3498 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The BZ-166 is a april fools joke compared to the BZ-176

  • @xFrozenxSnowx
    @xFrozenxSnowx Před 8 měsíci

    Props to the best paid actor of this game: the Ferdinand that crashed off screen. Free 'kill' is free

  • @KingslayaJ
    @KingslayaJ Před 9 měsíci

    That ebr death was the hardest death I’ve ever seen.

  • @robertjohnsuan5758
    @robertjohnsuan5758 Před 9 měsíci

    I just recovered my account yesterday and got a 10yrs on board reward, and when I met the BZ 176 in a match, I was shocked to how much it can destroy any vehicle in a Tier VIII match. Every game I played there was 2-6 BZ 176🙃🙃

  • @vvav
    @vvav Před 9 měsíci +1

    It's a tier 10 tank as a tier 8 premium. I fully expect this tank to come back in Christmas boxes because it's too easy for them to make money that way. No integrity, just P2W.

  • @seansixsixsix
    @seansixsixsix Před 9 měsíci +1

    oh, but it will. Last week, for limited quantity, it was put on sale on Chinese server for roughly $62 USD

    • @theroyle7098
      @theroyle7098 Před 9 měsíci

      Does Wg run the asia sever, i thought it was a separate company that leased the game like the russia server

    • @omuffin1854
      @omuffin1854 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@theroyle7098Chinese server is different from ASIA server. ASIA is run by WG while Chinese one, who know

  • @andrewfr5496
    @andrewfr5496 Před 9 měsíci

    My list of top 5 "best ideas" of WG balance department: BZ, Skoda T56, 268/4, stun mechanic, French wheeled LT.

  • @eclypse1259
    @eclypse1259 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’m always on the receiving end of a 900+ dmg hit from this thing! Absolutely bonkers!!!

  • @grymstone
    @grymstone Před 9 měsíci +4

    I bet ya this tank will be sold as part of this year's Xmas lootboxes

  • @sukositb
    @sukositb Před 9 měsíci +4

    I think it can be move to tier 9 and change some bits.

  • @honnorgaurd
    @honnorgaurd Před 9 měsíci

    Ive been waiting for a LONG time for him to post a video addressing this tank.... im very surprised we havent seen something sooner. this tank is always just rediculous everytime its in a match. he's right, it really does ruin the match when one side has them and the other doesnt.

  • @Abettorman
    @Abettorman Před 9 měsíci

    This tank is why my IS-M has spall liner in one of its builds.

  • @Spectrumlx
    @Spectrumlx Před 9 měsíci +1

    I really love how if they literally just nerf the BZ 176 than tier 6-8 will literally be so much more enjoyable while also fixing matchmaking and saving games, as it is right now everytime i see one im just genuinely hopeless unless im in a confident team that actually knows how to use teamwork, but thats rare

  • @bradlyfan
    @bradlyfan Před 9 měsíci +30

    Also these things never miss … I get snapshotted by these more then basically any other tank it makes no sense

    • @test_nametest_surname1794
      @test_nametest_surname1794 Před 9 měsíci

      this!

    • @Avox16
      @Avox16 Před 9 měsíci

      Bullshit, the gun handling is pretty atrocious, and you can miss plenty of fully aimed shots

  • @oMa3aH
    @oMa3aH Před 9 měsíci +3

    i still think that they will put it in the winter holidays box.

  • @7g3db
    @7g3db Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have this tank and when I play it I see nines and tens a lot more than anything else plus half the times the shells do not penetrate and they low roll more often than not of course that's if they hit the target because the accuracy of this tank is so poor against this tank you never let it reload and after it's fired you all rush and kill very easy to take out

  • @Anriandor
    @Anriandor Před 9 měsíci +12

    They never sold the EBR 75 FL anymore, so I suppose it'll be the same with this behemoth of a tank.

  • @mathiasgds6318
    @mathiasgds6318 Před 9 měsíci

    Wholesom beggining with the tiger 2 in beggining

  • @winstonmiller4854
    @winstonmiller4854 Před 9 měsíci

    The only loot boxes I've ever purchased were the ones that gave out the BZ 176.

  • @tukiort4504
    @tukiort4504 Před 9 měsíci +3

    BZ-176 should just be move up a teir to teir 9
    along we some other teir 8 powerful premiums like Iron Arnie.
    It would be better as they make more ingame profits and WG is could gain a bit more cash without touching the stats

  • @stefanchr7715
    @stefanchr7715 Před 9 měsíci

    And to think the bl 10 on the isu152 used to be considered toxic that WG had it removed.

  • @DragnixXander92
    @DragnixXander92 Před 6 měsíci

    I remember the old time that WoT put Type 59 on sale and then took away and never put on sale anymore. Until maybe to year 2020-2021, they finally put Type 59 on sale in shop. So it will be the same with BZ-176 and T-832 sale on shop with some change of nerf and buff of these 2 tanks.

  • @Gigarez
    @Gigarez Před 7 měsíci

    i got this tank first from the lootboxes and felt so dirty driving it for a few rounds. Haven't touched it since.

  • @1967Kinger
    @1967Kinger Před 9 měsíci

    To be honest whilst this showed some of its attributes, really helped by the muppets lining up to be disposed of. Still you can only play what is in front of you.

  • @mohdamirul5338
    @mohdamirul5338 Před 9 měsíci

    Fully upgraded,100% crews many skills with BiA,bond/special equipments,directives and food. I got 0.35m dispersion for freaking 160mm gun..DAMNN

  • @baswillemen8015
    @baswillemen8015 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm at a point I dont even play in my tier 6, 7, 8 or even 9 tanks when there is a BZ176 in the game.

  • @petervillent5573
    @petervillent5573 Před 9 měsíci

    The simplest solution is to move BZ-176 to Tier X. It already has stats that enable it to challenge them, just throw some extra HP to fit the rest and it's done.
    Cuz the worst thing this tank does, is 1shot T6's.

  • @thorinoakenshield217
    @thorinoakenshield217 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I see only one solution: WG has to make the step and nerf premium tanks again!
    That this tank can see tier 6 is just outrageous!

  • @zjork
    @zjork Před 9 měsíci +1

    cough, jgp e100, cough, death star, cough, all SPGs before nerf, cough, shit barn, cough, ISU-152, cough waffle tractor, cough. damn i must be coming down with something

  • @keff5984
    @keff5984 Před 9 měsíci

    I got one and obviously it's a blast to play but it is very broken. It would probably be fine with a some pen off the HE rounds. Even bringing it to 208 would help

  • @MrProzacky
    @MrProzacky Před 9 měsíci +1

    They havent sold the ebr either ever since release. So fingers crossed...

  • @uziman3800
    @uziman3800 Před 9 měsíci

    Mine is still sitting in my garage. Not one game played yet. I should get it out and take it for a spin. I might put quickly baby commander in it lol.

  • @gangfire5932
    @gangfire5932 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm one of those players who got the BZ-176 in loot boxes; a handful gifted to me by two friends (got the non-rental Projekt 283 as well). I'm pretty terrible in the BZ-176; apparently I'm not very good at playing heavies.

  • @snakeplissken1754
    @snakeplissken1754 Před 8 měsíci

    Increase it's lfp weak spot, add a small cupola. Change prem ammo to 650 alpha and give it 100mm hesh rounds for that 800 alpha.
    Regular ammo can stay as is.

  • @Stuka87
    @Stuka87 Před 9 měsíci

    I see three things they can do. First, just change it to a tier 9, with no other changes. Or, they give it reverse pref-MM. Where it never sees tier 6 or 7 tanks. Or they can change the ammo to give the HE round like, 100mm of pen.

  • @Haseo112621
    @Haseo112621 Před 9 měsíci

    I personally feel awful at times when I’m playing my BZ176. It’s “balanced” when I’m in a tier 9 or 10 lobby, but when I fight equal tier or lower I come out with 5k damage and a plethora of kills with minimal effort. Sucks, but I do agree that it needs either a nerf or to never be released again.

  • @kosztypatrik7028
    @kosztypatrik7028 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wait until we get something crazier during Christmas💀.

  • @kinghash29
    @kinghash29 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Don’t nerf the BZ, just make every other tank it can meet better :)

  • @phillip5795
    @phillip5795 Před 8 měsíci

    It bewilders me that they removed the roof deck overmatch

  • @theprimordialtv1310
    @theprimordialtv1310 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm something like an 8 year veteran recently coming back, I'll quit for good if this ever gets resold

  • @carpethroatius1
    @carpethroatius1 Před 9 měsíci

    I think it's very telling WG realized they screwed up with this thing when they removed all of the big guns from the tech tree line before the common test release.

  • @helohel5915
    @helohel5915 Před 9 měsíci

    BZ176 was somewhat balanced before it was released, with a more conventional gun (ap/heat/he) and with that 29mm gun weakspot...

  • @mcewanschampion
    @mcewanschampion Před 9 měsíci +1

    One of many reasons I think WG have lost the plot. Played for 10 years and the game has never been in such a mess.

  • @dragade101
    @dragade101 Před 9 měsíci

    Totally fine as is! IF and ONLY if, all tanks around this are buffed lol

  • @TheVarliuxas
    @TheVarliuxas Před 9 měsíci +1

    good I have it and hope they never sell it on the shop

  • @kacperblechacz2435
    @kacperblechacz2435 Před 9 měsíci

    Is it already time for QB's daily videos until Christmas? :o

  • @sergioalejandroreypuerta8116
    @sergioalejandroreypuerta8116 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You know, I got the Bz-176 tank, but I'm not having fun because it feels like the tank is carrying me instead of my own skill.

  • @Nobody54545
    @Nobody54545 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I was going to buy boxes that time, but I didn’t want to get this tank. It’s so bad for the game that I voted against it by not spending.

  • @SulfuricDrop3
    @SulfuricDrop3 Před 6 měsíci

    This tank is like the old version of the kv1s. Most of the time I’ll go the opposite way of the bz176 so I don’t have to face it

  • @jeffmcarpenter
    @jeffmcarpenter Před 9 měsíci

    we not gonna talk about the ferdinand randomly crashing during the last big fight???

  • @johanfedlund75
    @johanfedlund75 Před 9 měsíci

    They can also do like people can not pluton in them and like wheel light tanks, one on each team.

  • @hohuynhquocchuong4925
    @hohuynhquocchuong4925 Před 9 měsíci

    Additional with map banned, need at least 1 option for tank banned too.

  • @urmask7264
    @urmask7264 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I do agree. Russian 703 II, which is a great tank, imo, has difficulties fighting BZ. Slow vs BZ, slow reload time, and low penetration.
    And tech tree T8 BZ is awful.. :D