The Shining (1980) Movie REACTION!
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- For Film Friday #50, Madison watches "The Shining" for the first time.
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The first time I saw this movie, I was pet-sitting for one of my high school teachers. He said the cats liked having someone around, so I should feel free to hang out in the house, watch any movies I wanted, etc. I thought, "Hey! I heard this was good! I'll watch it!"
So I ended up watching The Shining in an unfamiliar house. At night. Alone. With cats sneaking around in my peripheral vision.
That was an experience.
You should have experienced "Clockwork Orange" those days. 😂😉
@@shieldsluck1969 Yeah that is a good one (sarcasm) to watch alone at night!
Yeah, "an experience" ... y'know, like drowning is "an experience"!
@@shieldsluck1969 I think I had enough problems as a teenager, thank you very much. ;)
@@ephennell4ever I meant the hilarious *_cat overruns her best playmate scene!_* 😉😂
The line, “Heeeeere's Johnny," is from The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, who hosted the show from 1962 to 1992. It's how co-host Ed McMahon would always introduce Carson at the beginning of every show.
And it still fits, because "Jack" is short for John.
This is one of the most iconic lines in American TV and was parodied by Nicholson so well. But it's also a line that new audiences 'don't get' because their late-night hosts never use it again. Can't use it. It's odd that we'll lose so many reference points in these next few decades. AIRPLANE and NAKED GUN are full of dead-or-dying references lines. In 20 years, "I see dead people" will, too.
When you have to explain that, that person shouldn't be watching the film. Most modern day kids wouldn't 'get' this. It's not dumb enough for today's useless herd.
Weird, wild stuff.
I think people who want to know why he said that line, they would just Google it in today's world.
The Shining is the best horror film ever made
The atmospherics in the film were all Kubrick. He was a master filmmaker.
Not to mention the re-write of the story. Your right. 40 years later people are still debating this movie and there is literally nothing like it despite countless imitators. If anybody wants to know how this would have turned out with a mediocre director you can watch King’s The Shining mini series. It’s terrible but does act as a foil to show off how great Kubrick’s Shining is.
Hi there, thank you for reacting to this movie, it's probably my favorite of all time..I just have to correct you on one thing..yes, this is an adaptation from a Steven King novel, but it's TOTALLY different then the book..this is ALL Stanley Kubrick!..there are still theory videos you can find all over..Kubrick had an IQ of 200, and put Easter eggs and hidden meanings in a lot of his movies..I really hope you liked the film, the more times you watch it, the more things you discover..thanks again, oh, and btw, it was nice to see someone finally review the movie without over talking thru the whole thing..great job..have a great evening..💐✌️
This
I've seen so many people wonder why Danny went back inside after escaping the bathroom. It's the middle of the night, in the middle of a blizzard, at the top of the Rockies. It's probably around -20F out there.
Tony is the manifestation of Danny's shine ability. Danny copes with it by personifying it as this Tony character, like a typical imaginary friend that a lot of kids do. I like to think of Tony as like an operating system for a computer. LOL
Yeah, it's sad right? You nailed it. Danny was just a small kid, too young to understand and analyze his psychic ability. So he created this Tony character/friend in his mind.
Nope. Tony is Daniel Anthony Torrence= Danny himself. Read the book.
You are spot-on about Tony. He is a Coping mechanism for Danny while he goes through too much trauma for a little kid
"Here's Madison", with another top notch movie to react to, literally just enjoyed your reaction to The Silence of the Lambs and now this notification has popped up. Sweet!
This is more a Kubrick film than it is a King adaptation. Personally think Kubrick improved on the source material though King wasn’t too fond of the end results, eventually funding a newer adaptation in the form of a television movie.
Kubrick was a legend. King can pound sand.
Great reaction, and I’m so happy to hear you give so much credit to the score. Kubrick mostly used music that had already been written, and I agree with you, the music choice here is ammmmmaaaazing. The more melodic piece with the violins, timpani and bell percussion is called Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste by Bela Bartok, and it’s a great piece of music. Well worth purchasing and listening to the whole thing. There’s something very sinister about symmetry, which is reflected in the music and the visual compositions. Btw, I think if you’re going to give credit here for creepiness created, it really goes to Kubrick. It’s well known, King hated this movie. All the versions that he himself got behind made for TV really don’t compare at all. There’s something just so deeply feral and lonely, so pained, in the atmosphere Kubrick created here. He’s such a master with color and this movie is at the top of his game in that way. Anyway, thank you so much for sharing your first reaction and your insights.
That’s really what pissed off King. He sent to Kubrick a ready made screen play to Kubrick which Kubrick rejected because he already had much better ideas on how to alter it. Call it artistic jealousy.
Your right. The King mini series is amateurish while Kubrick made a masterpiece.
In the book, the number of the hotel room with the woman in the bathtub is 217, based on the room in the real life Stanley Hotel that Stephen King once stayed in that inspired The Shining. The movie had to change the number of the room because the hotel was afraid that no one would want to stay in that room after the movie came out, so it was changed to 237, a room number that didn't exist in the Stanley Hotel.
It's funny that you mention how Jack Nicholson takes his time with the delivery of his lines. Reportedly, on his various films, he liked to smoke weed before takes because it helped him to slow down his acting and really be in the moment. Whatever he's doing, it works because the dude is a beast in pretty much any role he plays. And his eyebrows should've gotten some Best Supporting Actor nods in their time...
Definitely one of the best reactions I've seen to this!
It's one of the best rewatchable movies ever made, all of the so called continuity errors, the colour shifts and reversals, the weirdly impossible layout of the hotel, all add up on a not quite conscious level to mess with your head. Every time you watch you see a new thing.
It was all shot in England with a few exceptions (certain exterior hotel shots). The rest, including the interior hotel, was all a set. If you noticed, there were typical Kubrick "details", such as native american brand baking powder on the pantry shelves ( reference to the earlier "indian burial ground"). Also notice the extreme use of right angles and geometric design through the hotel, especially the flooring and carpet.
Excellent review as always! You are awesome
The hotel exteriors are of Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood in Oregon. It was built in the late 1930's by the Works Progress Administration of the US government. It's actual interiors are much more hand carved and rustic, quite different from the hotel interiors of the movie.
Great job. Another outstanding reaction. If you want to see Jack Nicholson in what many consider to be his best performance I highly recommend watching 'One Flew Over The Coo Coo's Nest' from 1975. It's a multiple academy award winner. I think you would also enjoy watching Nicholsonin 'The Witches of Eastwick' from the mid 1980's. Again great job, I really enjoy your reactions.
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and "Chinatown" are two of Nicholson's iconic 70's performances. Amazing films too.
Nicholson greatest of all time actors.
You describing the movie was spot on! Also, I love you dont constantly talk over the dialogue, like most reactors. 10 stars. You are one of the elite best reactors out there.
My #1 favorite horror movie.
Jack begins to Shine when he looks down at the Maze and can actually see Wendy and Danny walking in the middle of the Maze. The Hotel remembers him from an earlier life ~ 1921 .
There's been plenty of blogs and Chatrooms about The Shining over the years one of the more popular Topics was who was Loyd . Was Loyd the Devil because he appears after Jack says "I'd give anything for a drink. I'd give my goddamned soul for just a glass of beer". Turns out Loyd was the ghost of a Bartender who haunted the bar.
Gordie Lachance in " Stand By Me " Bill Denborough in " It " Mike Enslin in ' 1408 " are writers as well King does use alot of characters who are writers in his movies.
Great Reaction once again Madison Thames 🐎
Edit : November is Turkey Time 🦃 I hope you have room on your schedule for
" Planes , Trains , and Automobiles " Steve Martin , John Candy Classic .
You are the first person to have ever noticed that that caretaking job started on Halloween. Good catch!
People have mentioned Dr Sleep. Another recent movie to make reference to The Shining is “Ready Player One”. That movie feature a virtual reality quest with a challenge set in the Overlook Hotel, with various VR recreations of scenes in this movie. Funny enough the dialog discusses how Stephen King hated the movie.
There were zero hallucinations!!! I hope you consider reacting to Shining's sequel "Doctor Sleep"!! It's a must if you enjoyed the first one.
Doctor Sleep is enjoyable, but it’s a much more typical commercial film. It has nothing of the artistry of Kubrick.
Out of all scary movies I've seen, The Shining and It follows give me chills.
Thank you for watching it with us.
I finally got to see this reaction! I love what you said: "that was the most atmospherically creepy thing I've ever seen." That's Stanley Kubrick capturing the writing of Stephen King.....while at the same time completely changing virtually all the details of what happens. Read the book, which is terrifying and the atmosphere is completely the same. But you won't be able to predict what's going to happen because so much is different! it's like two completely great Shinings! Regarding the music, most of Kubrick's films use pre-existing classical music, like this one......they're always visually incredible, always have incredible music.....and are always like no other movie you've ever seen, no matter what the genre he's in. This is his only horror movie. You think he made his mark? :D
Worth mentioning: Most of the things you attribute to Stephen King should probably be credited to the director (Stanley Kubrick) as King basically disowned this film due to the substantial departures from his book.
King's told so many interviewers how much he hates the film. But he never DID give back all that $$$$$
Jack Nicholson was a former volunteer firefighter, he broke down the strongest door. He was told "use less strength"
Hi Madison! This was a fun reaction to watch. Welcome to the work of Stanley Kubrick, one of the greatest and most revered directors of all time. Loved your comments about Stephen King and all the wonderful elements of this film. Please do carry out that plan to watch Christmas movies in December! If you haven't seen them, please react to "It's a Wonderful Life" and "Miracle on 34th Street" (the one from 1947, not the remake). Cheers!
And Polar Express.
I feel like one easy to identify sign of a good horror/thriller is that the viewer is never yelling at the characters to do the common sense things. This situation is just straight up terrifying and the mom and kid respond to it like actual people.
The opening shot of the hotel and the mountain is at Timberline Lodge at Mount Hood, Oregon. I've been there skiing in winter and it is nothing interesting at all inside - in fact, quite small. The movie hotel interiors are at a sound studio in England and inspired by a hotel at Yosemite.
... and they have nightly viewings of the movie.
@@danielbrian17 I feel I would have nightmares after that showing.
Come react with us, Madison. Forever and ever and ever. :) Seriously though, Kubrick actually made sure the twin girls he chose didn't look exactly like each other to make them seem subconsciously even creepier.
In the movie the sisters are not twins, Ulmann himself says their ages as 7 and 9 i believe. They are often mistaken for twins because they dress the same and look very alike - not uncommon among siblings with close ages.
The drive at the start of the movie was shot at Glacier NP on the east side of the Going to the Sun road. And it is spectacular.
I saw this movie when I was about Danny's age, right after it came out. Always has been one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. And , yes , the score makes it hella scarier..
Madison, your reaction after the movie ended reminded me of how exactly I felt after watching this for the first time when I was 13 - completely unnerved! Atmospheric, beautifully directed, and of course the music, adds up to my personal favorite horror movie. Glad you checked it out!
This movie is a cinematic masterpiece.
While King's inspiration for the evil Overlook Hotel came from the historic Stanley Hotel in Colorado (the owner invented the Stanley Steamer, a legendary steam powered car), the movie uses the Timberline Lodge in Oregon for the exteriors and an interior set in a vast English studio modeled upon the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite National Park. The two buildings do not line up at all architecturally so as to add to the eerie, unsettling nature of the movie's environment.
If you look at promotional photos of the Ahwahnee's actual interior, you will notice the elevator used for the deluge of blood and other recreated landmarks featured in the movie.
In all his movies, Kubrick uses color to represent key motifs. This is very apparent in "Eyes Wide Shut," with its contrasts of complementary colors orange and blue. You mentioned the music more than once. Stanley Kubrick tended to look to classical music as source music for his movies. Most famously, the piece of music originally called "Also Sprach Zarathustra" is nowadays called by everyone "the theme from 2001," composed by Richard Strauss (1864-1949). In "The Shining," some of the best musical moments are scored by Béla Bartók (1881-1945) a Hungarian composer. Most prominent is a piece of Bartók's called "Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta." Particularly the third movement, the Adagio. If you want creepy music for your Halloween, dial it up to 11 in your home. It's a brilliant piece of music, even without a movie attached to it.
Madison thinks this is a Stephen King film 😆 LMAO .... She is outstanding most times with her understanding and reaction videos.... But this time she completely dropped the ball. 👎 📹
@@Lue_Jonin i mean if you've read The Shining, this is almost a beat for beat adaptation of the narrative. The difference is the book explains everything in depth and the characters have different personalities, but the movie leaves the supernatural stuff ambiguous.
But if you apply the books logic to the film, the story is still the same. Dysfunctional family with psychic son stay in haunted hotel that has the same psychic ability. The hotel takes hold of the father, but shows the son visions until his fear is strong enough to make the visions real. Jack is able to slip into alcoholism and ghost-influenced psychosis because of this, and he tries to kill his family after Danny contacts the chef for help. The hotel gets stronger until Wendy can see the ghosts too, but Jack is destroyed by his offspring being smarter than him and leaving him to die in isolation. The main difference there is that Jack willingly kills himself to burn the hotel down and die with him demons, in the book, but the movie gives him no redemption, he just gets lost in the maze with his demons and dies alone and insane. Different take, but very much the same story.
The difference really is the tone. King saw it as the inner struggle of an addict trying to care for others while unable to care for himself, and Kubrick sees it solely as the survival story of a family stranded with an abusive psychopath.
This still is totally a Stephen King story, it just doesnt feel like one because the alcoholic writer is framed to be evil for once lmao. If the changes here made the film "not a Stephen King film" then neither would be Carrie (1976), or the IT movies (Any of them)
A lot of the music from the film is Krzysztof
Penderecki’s Utrenja. Like the hedge maze chase is several portions of it layered together
@@robertyeah2259 Kubrick's adaptation has little to nothing to do with King's book and storyline.
King's book is a mediocre ghost story.
Kubrick's cinematic masterpiece is a psychological thriller.... There are NO GHOSTS or ANYTHING supernatural , paranormal , spiritual or having to do with psychic abilities , reincarnation or the afterlife in Kubrick's films... He is an atheist, and wouldn't allude to anything supporting such delusional disorders.
My comment wasn't meant to have to explain the difference of King's book and Kubrick's film... It was only to point out that the reactor went into this film with the misconception that this was a King film.... It wasn't... Heck King didn't even like Kubrick's film because it didn't stay true in any way with King's book and storyline .
Understanding the "unreliable narrative" and the "red herrings" Kubrick used to fool viewers, like yourself, was the keys to understanding the genius of Kubrick's film.
@@Lue_Jonin Could you expand the psychological thriller part and basically what the heck happened.
Madison, what an all-time great reaction to this classic! Keep an eye out for more classics from Stanley Kubrick...
Love your comments about Jack Nicholson. The guy has a string of incredible performances: Easy Rider (1969), Five Easy Pieces (1970), Carnal Knowledge (1971 - one of my favorites), The Last Detail (1973), Chinatown (1974-a super classic), One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (1975 - essential Jack), Reds (1982), Terms Of Endearment (1983-totally reinvented himself), Prizzi's Honor (1985), Heartburn (1986), Broadcast News (1987), etc etc.......the list goes on, and I left some out. But you get the idea. DEFINITELY hit "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", "Chinatown" and "Terms Of Endearment", which got him his second Oscar.
Tony was literally Danny's imaginary friend. An imaginary friend combined with the shining made Tony more special than just a regular imaginary friend.
King did a sequel,it's also now a movie.
It's called Doctor Sleep.
It's awesome.
I was about to say Doctor Sleep was a must now she's watched this ... but you beat me to it 😋
Dr Sleep is nothing compared to Kubrick’s Shining
@@michaelsims1160 they are definitely different movies... Kind of the way Aliens and Alien are different movies, though perhaps even more. I don't think it's as much to compare the two as it is to say the second one continues the story pretty nicely, and Dr Sleep pulls the story back from Kubrick's hubris at leaving Danny with no mentor.
Hubris? Really? Using that word is hubris.
@@michaelsims1160 sorry. Maybe I misspoke. What do you call it when someone arbitrarily changes a story in ways just to say fuck you to the author?
Love what you said about the voices chanting and it's like the ghosts are all coming out to play: that's EXACTLY what I have always thought about that part. Amazing use of music, as usual for Kubrick! The guy isn't called a GOAT for nothing! And this is probably one of his LESSER movies, if you can believe such a thing! "2001: A Space Odyssey", "A Clockwork Orange", "Paths Of Glory".... absolute top-echelon stuff.
@32:55 "I finally have context for Here's Johnny". For anyone who doesn't know, people say "Here's Johnny" usually referring to this movie. However, the reason Jack Nicholson's character said it in the first place was because when this movie came out The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson was one of the most popular shows on television. At the beginning of every episode, Ed McMahon introduced the show and then said "Heeeeere's Johnny" as the camera went from him to Johnny Carson.
This movie works on a psychological level without being gory/bloody (except one scene😂). Enjoyed your reaction.
28:30, great point. Bartok's Music for Percussion, Strings and Celeste; a masterpiece.
This movie ranked at #6 in the 100 scariest movie moments on Bravo, cool reaction as always Madison, you take care and have a great weekend sweetie 🥰
Another great reaction, Madison!! A couple production tidbits. Although the story is set in Colorado, the actual exterior hotel shots are at a hotel in Oregon. But all the interior photography was actually on studio sets built at the direction of Stanley Kubrick. Even the vast studio lobby was a studio set. The light coming in through the windows was just studio lighting. And all the snow outside was just truckloads of salt brought in. The cinematographer mentioned that they ruined countless pairs of shoes because of the salt. And to get the mist effect they blew some of the salt up with some oily droplets to make it linger. But that also caused some respiratory issues while filming. Again, great reaction!!!!!
@16:30
When Wendy suggests leaving is when the hotel really kicks up the levels of evil and awakens. Its an evil place that wants to add more evil to itself and doesn't want them to get away. Danny senses it's awakening through his visions and jack (having already given into the Overlook and being manipulated by it) flies off into an instant rage over it.
A great reaction, Madison. This is a great mixture of a great director and a great writer create story, it's a great film, it's not my favourite horror film but it's quite definitely in the top ten.
I love how that at 13:27 Jack and Madison are making the exact same face 😄
One of the things I enjoy about your reactions is that I feel like I'm actually enjoying the film with you, meaning I don't feel like you're just CONSTANTLY talking to fill time and be a PERSONALITY. You're just sitting down and getting engrossed in a good flick and reacting the way anyone else would.
Great reaction! A favorite since the year of its release. And I’m still not tired of it.
Music used as a foreshadowing device is found in the scene where the family is driving to Colorado. The music is Dies Irae, a latin hymn on the Last Judgement, part or the requiem mass. Mozart and Verdi used this to great effect..loose translation is "death to all. Your death, my life, death conquers all.....cheery, no?
My Mom took my sister and I, ages 10 & 11 to see this when it came out. I watched most of it through clutched hands over my eyes.
My favorite Thanksgiving movie is called BROADWAY DANNY ROSE (1984) although its thanksgiving theme is quite subtle and my favorite Christmas movie is MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET (1947).
Initially the things Danny sees in the hotel actually are just psychic visions. The book goes into a lot more detail about The Overlook's checkered past and makes clear that it's always been a seriously bad place. People like Dick Halloran who had the shining would sometimes get a glimpse of things that had happened there, but even guests without any special abilities would offer suffer from headaches, nausea, nightmares, heart attacks, suicide, etc. However, Danny's shine was so off the charts the hotel was able to draw power from him just like a battery. Danny's shine is what allowed the spirits to take actual, physical form, hence why it wanted him so badly.
Your reactions and analysis is always entertaining and interesting. Kudos.
I haven't enjoyed most movie "reaction" videos. But I'm very impressed with your reactions and insights. You "pick up" on more of the nuances of some of the complicated storylines much better than the others I've watched. I've been watching films longer than I like to admit since I'm an "older" guy, but that's what makes me appreciate your approach. Oh yeah, the first time I saw this movie was in a "theater". Yikes! I also think Shelley Duvall doesn't get enough credit for her performance. Even Jack Nicholson has said she had to put up with more stress from Kubrick's constant hounding of her than any of the other actors. Also, very impressed that you gave credit to the music score and its importance. Great reaction. Glad I found your channel!
There are two cuts of The Shining. This extended US/International version and the shorter, tighter European cut. I always preferred the European one. It was almost shot entirely on a stage in London ( same one used for the first Indy Jones movie ). The naturalistic lighting Kubrick was going for became so hot that there was a fire and if you look online there's some very bizarre pictures of crew member's sitting in the snowy hedge maze set in shorts and T-shirts.
I'm a bit of a nut on Kubrick so I'll keep the gushing short and just say if it says directed by then watch it, you'll never be disappointed, he was a genius film maker. Great sum up as always Madison. Hopefully I don't miss the next premiere 🙂
Stanley Kubrick didn't bring this out in the movie, but in the novel Stephen King revealed that Danny's middle name is Anthony -- Daniel Anthony Torrance. Tony is actually Danny, his future self from about 10 years later, come back to help guide his younger self through a difficult period in his life.
Not my fave Kubrick nor King for that matter, but your typically top-notch insight helped me to appreciate it more. I especially liked your comments about Jack Nicholson's technique. Shelley Duvall brought just the right fragility to her role, though I prefer her in wacky comedies. I 've heard that Kubrick gave her a really hard time, leaving her a nervous wreck. May I also say the candlelight becomes you. All the best with your 20K goal. You deserve every success.
He wanted her stressed-out and exhausted....and got what he wanted. It's been overblown, though, because as an actress, Duvall understood all of it
I have a very personal relationship with this film. First off, my name's Danny. And in 1976 I was 5 years old, and me and my mother lived in some old apartments that were in front of an old abandoned resort called Murrieta Hot springs. They rented out the apartments, but the resort was abandoned, and in its heyday it was a resort for the jet set and stars of the silver screen. I use to sneak off and play in the abandoned buildings. And they looked almost just like the hotel in the Shining. They had that 70's carpet and patterns and the 70's colors, and long hallways with rooms. And it had huge iron chandeliers with candle lights around them And since it was built in 1902, many of the left over furniture was from the 20's and 30's. It also had a shady past. It looked (at least on the inside) and felt just like the overlook in the shining. The outside looked different, but the interiors were almost the same. It was creepy in those old buildings. But I was drawn to them. I just loved playing them. But it definitely had that haunted feel to it, like something bad or sinister happened there, and you'd get that feeling like something was there watching you (even though the buildings were completely empty). It was rumored to have been ran by cult. And it was eventually sold to Calvary Chapel, who turned it into a Christian retreat and bible college. They sold it just recently for 50 million.
This movie actually brings back fond memories for me, of playing in the buildings. As strange as that may seem.
Hey, BIG kudos to you for watching it by candlelight at night! It pains me to see ppl watch scary stuff in broad daylight or brightly lit rooms. Like, if you're gonna do it, give yourself over the experience fully! :)
Hey Madison, congratulations on achieving 16K! I enjoy your reactions a lot and have suggested to some of my friends to check out your channel.
I've copied a small article that explains a little bit about the "bear scene" and the "Room 237" scenes. Reading the novel will give greater details on the subjects:
"The Shining's Bear Man Has Extremely Disturbing Implications
Stanley Kubrick's films are known for leaving behind hints and foreshadowing as well as clues that all signify some kind of deeper meaning, usually tethered to psychological conditions, phenomena, or theory. The Shining is no different, and, if Rob Ager's theory is correct, could explain a much darker nature to the relationship between Danny Torrance (Danny Lloyd) and his father, Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson). It seems ridiculous on the surface, but Ager's in-depth analysis points to some very compelling evidence of sexual abuse.
One of the most persuasive is the reoccurrence of bear symbolism. For example, during the scene where Danny is speaking to his psychiatrist, he is laying on stuffed bears. At The Overlook Hotel, there is a picture of two bears above Danny's bed, and there's a prominently featured bear skin rug in the lobby. This provides a clear association between bears and Danny Torrance. Keen-eyed viewers have pointed out before that the issue of Playgirl magazine Jack Torrance is reading in one scene has an article titled "Incest: Why Parents Sleep With Their Children" featured on the cover. Connecting the dots, The Shining's bear man and his partner could be stand-ins for Danny and Jack.
What Really Happened in Room 237?
Danny's experience in Room 237 occurs when a ball rolls into the room, and Wendy then comes to his rescue after she hears him screaming punctuated with the claim that a "crazy woman" strangled him. The Shining's Room 237 is known for having a female specter, as referenced when Jack encounters a woman in the bath. Ager suggests that Danny's experience in Room 237 was his way of externalizing his abuse and that it was his father who assaulted him instead. The ball itself is featured in another scene with Jack throwing it against a wall in the hotel lobby.
Ager cites Jack's experience in Room 237 as evidence that he's abusing his son. In his theory, he states that, inside the room, Jack is face-to-face with the truth of what he's been doing to Danny after having been in a dissociative state, previously unaware of his own horrific actions. All of this corresponds to Wendy's horrified reaction to seeing the bear man in the hallway, which Ager suggests may or may not imply that she has realized, at that moment, what's been happening to Danny in The Shining movie. Ultimately, it's all speculative, but Ager's cogent proof unravels the mystery of the bear man all the same.
The Shining's Book Links The Bear Man To The Hotel's Owner
The Shining movie's brief moment of intimacy between the man in the bear costume and his partner has a different context behind it in King's book. In the book, the man dressed in a suit is actually Horace Derwent, the mysterious owner of the Overlook Hotel, and the man in the costume (which is a dog in the book) is Roger, a one-time lover of his. The novel provides Roger and Horace's story as an example of atrocities that have happened in the hotel; in a cruel act of domination, Horace instructed Roger to attend one of the hotel's balls in the costume and behave like a dog for the other guests. The sighting of the pair in the novel, then, doesn't have much to do with Danny and Jack Torrance, at least not as clearly as in Ager's film analysis. Either way though, it's a haunting moment in The Shining, as the dynamic between the two men is uncomfortable, to say the least."
I'll be sending you a list of Thanksgiving movies to hopefully react to for the month of November in your next film review.
I wish you all the best in your channel's continued success! 📽❤️
"Do they at least have fire places?" They have heat, they're just not heated in the winter since nobody stays there. It's a money-saving feature.
Fun reaction. Really appreciate your horror themed room setting, I remember years ago watching my first gore horror, Lucio Fulchi-gates of hell (I don't suggest watching it) in a similar setting after a few drinks and with my back to the wall kept looking behind me. Look forward to more.
The main character is "Salem's Lot" was also a writer. It was made into a 2 part TV special, and later edited into a feature film. It scared the 💩 out of me....
The 'BigThree' of horror movies: _"The Exorcist"_ and _"The Thing"_ and _"The Shining"_ ... there are some close runners-up like _"Alien"_ and _"Hereditary"_ and _"The Others"_ and a couple more, but those three - as a group - give you the maximum chills with minimum distractions/disruptions to the narrative-effect!
They each come at the horror concept from different angles/approaches, but always leave you stunned, just in different ways. One often over-looked element of true horror is the 'relentless' factor; in all the best examples the experience makes you feel that what you're witnessing is some incarnation, somehow, of a relentless force/being that _will not_ or _cannot_ be denied ... it *will* bring down &/or destroy it's target - *no matter what!* You always feel that the best that can be done is to delay/defer it until a later time, or _maybe_ to distract it with a 'substitute target', _perhaps._
And kudos to you for not completely 'losing it', although your extra-wide-eyed stares gave me the feeling that you might've come close a few times.
I love this movie great preformance by all the actors in the movie
Tony was Danny's personification of his Shining powers, presumably created because Danny didn't understand the power he had.
Pro tip: watch this one in a cold room with a warm blanket and a pine-scented candle 😃
There was a sequel to this movie made a couple of years ago based on the Stephen King book, "Doctor Sleep". It goes more in depth into the whole concept of Shining & the Overlook hotel. If you do watch it, please watch the Director's Cut version of the movie. Great Reaction, BTW!
The book explains this better. Simply put, Tony is an imaginary friend who shows Danny future or past events and what people are thinking. In the book he was an older boy/teenager. His psychic powers gave him a more mature understanding of the world. The film depicted Tony creepier by having him manifest as a secondary voice
Dr. Sleep gives a short but definite explanation of the hotel and Tony
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The woman in Room 237 (Room 217 in the novel) was a divorced woman in her thirties who was having an illicit affair with a young college student, and the Overlook is where they would always meet. When the young man decided to end the affair, the woman committed suicide in the bathtub, and her spirit has remained there ever since.
When Jack gets released from the food locker was a Poltergeist.
Your channel is one of the best film classes on CZcams, Madison, analyzing these movies as a writer and student as opposed to someone trying to be a personality on CZcams.
I always adored this interview Steven Spielberg gave on his late friend Stanley Kubrick in 1999 for the _Eyes Wide Shut_ DVD. I'll recap my favorite part below mainly so the CZcams algorithms keep notching your channel higher, if it helps.
STEVEN SPIELBERG: When we first met, which was 1980, when he was just finishing the construction of his sets for _The Shining_ and we met for the first time, we talked a lot about movies. I was about to make _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ , and I was actually moving onto his stages. When he finished, I was moving in.
And, of course, when his stage burned down it changed my schedule. We had to go to France first to start shooting to give Stanley a chance to finish, strike, and let us build the Well of the Souls where the Overlook main hotel lobby was - the main room where Jack Nicholson did the infamous typing.
When it was all over and the movie was done, I saw Stanley again and went to his house for dinner in London, in Saint Albans. And he asked me, “How'd you like my movie?” I'd only seen it once and I didn't love _The Shining_ the first time I saw it.
I have since seen _The Shining_ twenty-five times. It's one of my favourite pictures. Kubrick films tend to grow on you, you have to see them more than once. But the wild thing is, I defy you to name me one Kubrick film that you can turn off once you've started it. It's impossible! He's got this fail-safe button or something. It's impossible to turn off a Kubrick film. But I didn't like it the first time I saw it. I was telling him all the things I liked about it and he saw right through me.
He said, “Well, Steven, obviously you didn't like my picture very much.” And I said, “Well, there's a lot of things I loved about it.” And he said, “Yeah, but there's a lot of things you didn't, probably more things you didn't than you did. So tell me what you didn't like about it.”
And I said, “Well, the thing that I... I thought Jack Nicholson, who's a great actor, I thought it was a great performance, but it was almost a great kabuki performance. It was almost like kabuki theatre.”
He said, “You think Jack went over the top.” And I said, “Yeah, I kind of did.” And he said, “Okay. Quickly, without thinking, who are your top favorite actors of all time? And I don't want you to think, just name off some names.” So I quickly went, “Spencer Tracy, Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable...” He said, “Stop.” He stopped me. He said, “Okay. Where was James Cagney on that list?” And I thought, “Well, he's up there, high.” Stanley said, “Ah, but he's not in the top five. You don't consider James Cagney one of the best five actors around. You see, I do. This is why Jack Nicholson's performance is a great one.”
Tony is the personification of Danny's Shine. It's how he comprehend's his visions, but because he's still young sometimes the visions are so powerful they make him black out. Watching Doctor Sleep will explain more about Danny and those who Shine.
You are very astute to have it figured out. 18:50 Many Reactors go through this entire classic, thinking the whole damn thing is a hallucination
Great reaction in that cool setting of yours!
The interior shots were done in, "The Stanley Hotel", in Estes Park Colorado. I've been there. Took photos of the beautiful exterior but I did not set foot inside. No thanks.
Great reaction / review.
Be safe.
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The best explanation of Jack's "Visions" were explained in a sentence in "Ghostbusters" ... "Past Life visions incurring on Current Lives".
The Hotel was built on an Indian Burial Ground. There was a Curse Where the Souls are trapped there Forever and it calls for the Souls to Return, but they must Sacrifice their Families to Remain there.
So before Jimmy Fallon, or Jay Leno, the Tonight Show was hosted by none other than Johnny Carson.
The announcer would end the intro each episode with, “ Now Heeeeeeere’s Johnny!!!”
Classic horror, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, sound design and soundtrack added a lot. Tip: in beginning at hotel, Stuart told them hotel on Indian burial yard. Fought the Indians for the land.
Shelly Duvall too! Breaks my heart at times!
That hotel is just outside Bolder Colorado. Can see it from the road into town and it's just as big as it looks.
Diehard should definitely be on the Christmas movie list
Check out the movies US(2019), Hereditary(2018), Get Out(2017), The Lost Boys(1987), The Blair Witch Project(1999), and Friday The 13th(1980).
Great reaction and analysis.
Great watching a reactor that doesn't make it all about themselves - very good. If you haven't seen any of the following would be great to see you react to Tropic Thunder, Kick Ass, Four Lions and Dead Mans Shoes
When you watch Charles Xavier's 'Chat' with Laura while she eats cereal in 'Logan', know that Mr. Turkel, Danny and a bowl of Ice Cream was the inspiration.
SEE the knives over Danny's head in kitchen...Wolverine!
Stanley Kubrick actually directed this movie. Its based off the novel by Stephen King and King supposedly hates this movie because its a lot different from the novel
Madison: "What movie was that kid watching?"
Me, remember Stan Marsh's line in an episode of South Park: "Just the news."
Great reaction, Madison! :)
It's worth noting that this film is very different from the book from which it's adapted--so much so that the author disowned it. Besides changing several key plot points, especially the ending, the film does away with much of the novel's direct expository statements, either as a time-saving measure or out of a preference for more ambiguity.
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the The Stanley Hotel in Colorado inspired the Overlook Hotel in the book and film, The Shining's" most iconic scenes - the baseball bat confrontation on the stairs. Kubrick made Duvall and Nicholson shoot the scene in a record-setting 127 takes, kubrick was a genius when it came to psychological Terror. this movie even though not a True Horror film where you see blood and gore all over is still a nightmarish film a true classic. REDRUM is murder spelt and written backwards btw.
The hedge maze scene at the end was also not from the novel. The novel had hedge animals that would move when you didn't look at them, but would freeze whenever you did look at them, similar to the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who.
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Just so you know, the movie version of The Shining deviates greatly from Stephen King's novel, to the point where it's practically a different story entirely.
This alternates as my favorite Kubrick film.
He's my favorite director.
Did you see "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"? Vintage Jack insanity
All Kubrick movies should be watched, specially 3. The Killing, paths of glory, clockwork orange and the masterpiece, Dr strangelove!