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  • čas přidán 3. 09. 2022
  • This is a recreation of a short clip from a long form video showing six different ways to construct the Sierpinski triangle: • Six Sierpiński Triangl...
    In this short, we play the chaos game using randomness to find order and create the Sierpinski triangle. Can you explain why this works?
    #math #manim #fractal #fractal #sierpinski #chaosgame #chaos #mathshort #visualmath
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Komentáře • 77

  • @MathVisualProofs
    @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +13

    long form video: czcams.com/video/IZHiBJGcrqI/video.html

  • @villeskarin6738
    @villeskarin6738 Před rokem +149

    I’ve always wondered what happens if you start in the middle, pretty cool though

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +75

      You have to throw away the first few dots to get a perfect picture. Still gives the same limiting behavior :)

    • @spikypichu
      @spikypichu Před rokem +4

      Ah, I was also thinking that. Pretty cool!

    • @Ghost2Most
      @Ghost2Most Před rokem +3

      That is the origin point of chaos.

    • @jamesshelton7301
      @jamesshelton7301 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I wonder what would happen if this was done with a circle using phi instead of ½?

  • @user-kf4pn2zt8j
    @user-kf4pn2zt8j Před rokem +10

    I love fractals! It's like an infinitely looped video. This is a really cool way to create one!

  • @maynardtrendle820
    @maynardtrendle820 Před rokem +14

    This is such a beautiful result. 💙

  • @14xpm14
    @14xpm14 Před 3 měsíci +2

    you can also just get rid of the middle section for each iteration

  • @Jaffa_C
    @Jaffa_C Před 9 měsíci +13

    Wooo Legends of Zelda

  • @somemushroom5069
    @somemushroom5069 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Sierpinski triangle jumpscare

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Před měsícem +2

    My kind of thing.

  • @handsvsfood2781
    @handsvsfood2781 Před rokem +10

    Triforce

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 Před 2 měsíci +2

    That is one of the weirdest mathematical things
    🙂👍

  • @user-nm6cp4is7k
    @user-nm6cp4is7k Před 6 měsíci +2

    Its... Its... A​ MASTERPIECE!! But when i flip it upside down it kinda looks like your you tube logo so that means your logo is made buy the sierpinski triangle

  • @odinborson308
    @odinborson308 Před 9 měsíci +1

    beautiful

  • @one_logic
    @one_logic Před rokem +4

    Interesting shape..

  • @dudefromcav3993
    @dudefromcav3993 Před 5 měsíci

    not really chaotic if the rule is very restrictive,1 the area is inside the triangle so it's not really random, 2 it's always half the distance of the dots inside of same triangle, you're bound to get triangle patterns eventually

  • @mrbrown6421
    @mrbrown6421 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Your random selection is the same
    respective sequence used in the square
    example.

  • @cloverisfan818
    @cloverisfan818 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Why can placing dots in a triangle yield the Zelda logo?

  • @randomsircle
    @randomsircle Před rokem +4

    Can we animate long division in Manim ? If we could do you know any tutorial or document for the same ?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      I would guess it can be done... but I can't think about how best to do it programmatically. I haven't seen it done.

    • @randomsircle
      @randomsircle Před rokem +1

      @@MathVisualProofs How did you exactly learned manim ? Is there any path I could follow ? any definite tutorial from beginner to advance ? any ultimate documents ? could you teach me. I really really want to learn this software.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      @@randomsircle I just got into it and starting playing around. Check out resources on the manim site, and maybe check out tutorials by @benjaminhackl . Those seem to be good ways to learn?

    • @randomsircle
      @randomsircle Před rokem

      @@MathVisualProofs Thanks for help

  • @dAni-ik1hv
    @dAni-ik1hv Před 3 měsíci +1

    i REALLY want to make this in Desmos...

  • @curiosidadesdemariaemilia9895

    What happens if you pick a point that's not the middle?

  • @yusufdenli9363
    @yusufdenli9363 Před rokem +1

    That was fantastic, but why??
    can you proof this?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      you can definitely prove it. But most likely not in a short :)

  • @stephengibbons4680
    @stephengibbons4680 Před rokem +4

    I did a Computer Science project at age 17, for which I chose to do fractal generation.
    I looked at the generalisations of this method (and of taking Pascal's Triangle modulo 2), and discovered that if you start with a hexagon, and use ⅔ rather than ½, you get a fractal made up of the Koch Snowflake fractal, and if you start with a 3x3 square lattice of points with the middle one removed, and also use ⅔, you then get the Sierpinski Carpet
    Edit: Just found your video about the hexagon case.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +2

      I have a video of the hexagon version you describe :) Very cool. Definitely a fun project to explore on one's one :)

  • @pritampal3764
    @pritampal3764 Před 4 měsíci

    thanks, today I did it on fortran and gnuplot 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @AkamiChannel
    @AkamiChannel Před 7 měsíci

    What if you also allow the midpoints of the edges of the triangle? What do you get then?

  • @Oberatous-Udurabas
    @Oberatous-Udurabas Před rokem +2

    What if your first dot is in the center of the triangle

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +2

      It's the limiting shape that looks like this. So you can throw away any number of initial points if you need. :)

  • @AdielXD
    @AdielXD Před rokem +1

    What if we place points outside the triangle?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      Limiting shape still the same. You won’t get any aggregation by that single point and you can’t see single points (here I have exaggerated points so you would see one or two rogue points). But this is more about long term behavior

  • @A-random-pot
    @A-random-pot Před 9 měsíci

    Lets play the chaos game.
    If your health drops to 0, you will lose

  • @hangmen1230
    @hangmen1230 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Chaos is order?

  • @SoapheadPog
    @SoapheadPog Před rokem +3

    zelda shape

  • @derekthompson3163
    @derekthompson3163 Před rokem

    Does it also draw the original triangle's edges? Can't find a video that doesn't show the border but I have to know: how can a point ever appear along the original edges?!

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      You are right that the edges won’t be drawn. But the limiting shape will include points so close to the boundary that you would “see” the border triangle even though it is not in the set of points (the border points are limit points)

    • @ddthompson42
      @ddthompson42 Před rokem

      @@MathVisualProofs Super helpful. I saw a video on IG and I though my brain was going to explode trying to understand how the edge lines could be drawn precisely.

  • @gregjacksun
    @gregjacksun Před rokem

    What happens if you start at the centroid of the equilateral triangle?

    • @gregjacksun
      @gregjacksun Před rokem

      Der. Dumb question in hindsight.

    • @gregjacksun
      @gregjacksun Před rokem

      Unless the first two iterations were the same vertex - which could happen.

  • @erlindacalamba3547
    @erlindacalamba3547 Před měsícem

    Build A Triangle Of Sierpinaki

  • @pajeetsingh
    @pajeetsingh Před rokem +2

    stock markets are fractals. wow.

  • @jamesshelton7301
    @jamesshelton7301 Před 8 měsíci

    Look at all that dark matter!

  • @saralilianasanmiguel6227
    @saralilianasanmiguel6227 Před 6 měsíci

    do it using the farthest vertex

  • @drdca8263
    @drdca8263 Před rokem

    Description is empty?

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      Hmm. Not for me. Check again maybe?

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 Před rokem +1

      @@MathVisualProofs viewing the description on desktop in browser, I see the content, but not through the iOS application (maybe because out of date? But I’ve seen other descriptions on shorts with it, so that seems odd..?)

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      @@drdca8263 Yes. I have heard it happen before. Not sure why. I hope they fix it I guess. Thanks!

  • @kingelvis5502
    @kingelvis5502 Před rokem +1

    You have the rules wrong. If i put the first dot in yhe middle, this destroys this description

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem

      I say the limiting shape is the fractal. So where you start doesn’t matter because you are really looking for end behavior.

  • @FurryAzzre
    @FurryAzzre Před rokem +2

    The Final Shape,
    The Flawless Shape,
    Divinity,
    Harmony,
    Prosperity,
    Majesty,
    The All-Shape,
    The Law of 3,
    Knowledge Given Form,
    Breath of Formity,
    The Trigonometress’s Purity,
    The Edge of Unity.
    Many names, the Azzeri call this divine shape, but simply refered to as:
    The Triagon.

  • @eloeri
    @eloeri Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why is the music volume 10 times louder than the speaking volume. Jesus, it's awful.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah. Sorry. This one older than others. I am a bit better at sound editing now (though still not great)

  • @nithi875
    @nithi875 Před rokem

    30000 times is too much

  • @timmo971
    @timmo971 Před rokem +1

    This cannot be true

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      But you're watching it happen...

    • @timmo971
      @timmo971 Před rokem

      I’m watching an explanation which can be disputed. So, extrapolate for a sec and overlay the end pattern at the beginning of the process to reverse engineer it. For the sake of communication we will call a coloured in triangle a positive and the others negative. It has been put forward that the initial point is random. “But” there is only a 50% chance that that point is on positive triangle. And therefore each half point will be where? Not on its correct colour I think. Either A. It is wrong or B. It is actually possible to produce a negative of the pattern dependent on the initial point. If it’s B. I’ll reneg my dispute as mute.

    • @timmo971
      @timmo971 Před rokem

      @@MathVisualProofs oh and, as someone else has commented… you can’t just throw away the first few dots. That means it’s a wrong statement.

    • @MathVisualProofs
      @MathVisualProofs  Před rokem +1

      @@timmo971 the precise statement is that the limiting set is the Sierpinski triangle no matter what point you start with. So you can throw away any finite set of initial points.

  • @marcinlewicki5601
    @marcinlewicki5601 Před 5 měsíci

    Fake. trying for myself didn't work

  • @danny_racho
    @danny_racho Před rokem +1

    I did this today as well on my channel using MATLAB. Chaos Game!!