Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - Chinese Rocks (1977)
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- "Chinese Rocks" or "Chinese Rock" is a song written in 1975 by New York City punk rock musicians Richard Hell and Dee Dee Ramone, mostly composed by the latter.
Openly discussing heroin addiction based on real-life experiences, "Chinese Rock" was first recorded by Hell's former band, The Heartbreakers, and later by Dee Dee's band the Ramones. - Hudba
Wow. This almost makes me cry. Remember when music wasn't so synthetic and FELT real.
The drugs, they were better.
it's totally real
It was real alright - sometimes a bit too real, especially in the case of this song, and Johnny's life at the time.....
I miss that kind of guitar nowadays! Dolls, heartbreakers, pistols, stooges... that was Punk!
The stooges and the heartbreakers are not punk; they’re rock and roll!
It's been established that they are both proto-punk, so yeah. I mean, it's all rock, so whatever.
@@matthewensign9683 Dee Dee wrote this song that's why it sounds more punk
@@michaeldalscais2538, I believe the best way of describing it is that all Punk is Rock though not all Rock is Punk.
So they are Punk Rock.
You're right, it sounds exactly like deep purple and chuck berry! My mistake...
Of course all rock basically is and sounds the same and there are no differences within and punk doesn't even exist.
Gibson should come out with a Johnny Thunders signature Junior model
Make it TV yellow and affordable
Or at the very least, Epiphone makes and manufacture it. THE WORLD NEEDS MORE JOHNNY THUNDERS
There are at least a half a dozen decent copies of this guitar for under $300.
@@popsfereala les Paul junior or epiphone
@@blue2134 Epi and others.
An Epiphone inspired by Gibson les paul dc in tv yellow would be sick 💀🖤
"Is Dee Dee home?" ☎️
DeeDee ...Greatest Punk Songwriter..
Joe Strummer? Mick Joes? Johnny Rotten?
@@sniparchomp nah jus dd
@@sniparchomp Dee Dee was better
@@leahflower9924 DeeDee wrote far better songs than anyone, maybe silver medal to L.G. Phillips from The Dickies
Dee Dee is 👑
Walter Lure was the best musical wingman Johnny ever had. He knew when to step up and when to sit back depending on JT's stonedness.
Waldo was always my favorite Heartbreaker.
The song title is the inspiration for the band name Hanoi Rocks. Michael and Andy were huge fans of Johnny Thunders.
Dee Dee Ramones and Richard Hell wrote this song.
I was a big Heartbreakers fan, and I was fortunate enough to see a live performance of the original lineup at MAX'S in 1976, the opening act was BLONDIE.
My band THE THE opened for J.T. & GANGWAR in 1979 at the UK CLUB, NYC.
Johnny had amp trouble during the soundcheck, so I lent him my 1964 Fender Concert amp & he blew that one up during their set too! czcams.com/video/dldNpUbs8zo/video.html
Fuckkng awesome man, you’re a relic inn the truest sense of the word
@@waltzingpeter True! We are all relics from that era at this point.
It's a shame most of them are dead though.
NICE !!! I hope you still have it
@@gilwood7530 Do you mean the guitar amp?
I remember The The
Had a John Cale produced single?
Lived in NYC at the time
Great song, bad times. Will never forget my ex pawning my dead brothers guitar for a couple bucks and she never told me til way later. I thought one of my other friends stole it.. 😰
Please find help if you need it, you are hurting all the people who love you
I doubt most people even know what this song is talking about .. Sorry about your guitar.
Hilarious lyrics after getting sober.
I've made a karaoke of this song and sing this in my local pub. Greetings from Karelia!
Finnish Russia?
Даров сайпал
Как я стал слушать рамонес. В 99м году был диск с песнями птстолсами и на Сольнике вишеса был кавер на чинеси рок . У всех спрашивал, что за группа рамонес такая, н кто был не в курсе. Все слушали гражданскую оборону. Ну по итогу, я тоже кавер на чинеси рок записал. Спел кап получилось. Можете погуглить johnny mnemonics - chienese rock
Johnny Thunders, patron saint of hopeless cases, of which I am surely one.
St. Jude that would be...the name of my buddy's high school, lol.
I'm with Drumgold23
@@rexmundi3108 Maybe it got reassigned to Johnny.
@@martineshamzin7535 ...Haaaaaa!!!!!
Hey man...do you have any silverware? Lol!
This is sad to watch, him in such condition, a pity for music he went down so early and tragically, the man was a legend.
Don’t do drugs
Amazing energy... such a dark shot of a song, woeha!!!
Great old footage; brings back great memories!
DEE DEE RAMONE QUE ESCREVEU ESSA PEDRA CHINESA!
And the rest of the Ramones said, “A song about heroin? No, thanks.”.
Nice, wholesome, rock song. Very uplifting. That and "China Girl" by Iggy demonstrate great appreciation for Chinese . . . stuff.
Yeah. It's the reverse Opium War. What can you do with an act like that?
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Yeah real wholesome since DeeDee died from doing too much Chinese rocks
This song is everything, thank you dee dee. Johnny Thunders you rock my world looking all stylish and fancy , I love it!! Hope you are both at Peace
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Dee dee was the real punk he wrote this song
@@richardduran5915 yup Dee Dee liked to get more and more punk with each decade
God bless death.
Dee Dee wrote this with Richard Hell. Both on songwriter credits.
These stunning.......how can u not love ❤️ em! Mistress
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Good times! So many nights at Max's with these guys. My misspent youth (don't regret a thing!).
La canción del grande dee dee ramone mi ídolo
Great tune.
Awesome sound. Bring it back!
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do you have any heroin?
@@WhiteyMcCracker No thanks, man.
Dee Dee Ramone wrote this with help from Richard Hell with the played notes notes and lead licks... Dee showed Johnny Ramone but Johnny didn't want it because he was anti drugs. So Dee Dee gave it to the Heartbreakers.. It has been said that Dee Dee and Richard Hell were on a speedball binge and this was the result. Johnny Ramone came around $$$. And the Ramones recorded it
But a poor version thanks to their producer. And this is coming from a huge Ramones fan.
Obviously a Ramones song. I'm living on a Chinese rock. Everything's in the pawn shop.
Thank God you where there to clear that up!
There's something about the Ramones version, and The End of the Century album in general, that is past it's freshness date. It has that smell you get when you first walk into an antique store. It's mysterious but it's also a little sad. The Ramones version just feels like a cover to me.
it literally says dee dee's name in the 2nd line of the song in 1st person, Sherlock.
Johnny ❤
we miss you
31 years. I'm still sad
Me too
penned by dee dee ramone and initially turned down by his band, this song was credited to the heartbreakers when they released it as a single. although the royalties and hostility were eventually sorted out, there's no beating the sense of "been there, done that, stole the T-shirt" in the heartbreakers' definitive version.
KILLER TUNE STILL!!!!
Real punk rock!!! GREAT band .
somebody said some of my stuff reminded them of these guys so i tuned in...so it was a compliment..
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A classic of Punk, on both sides of orthodoxy - the sonic contours of that guitar, the ever sinking narrative of the beautiful loser, prone to lay down traps for troubadours who fell like fashion victims before they reached the Max's....
Yeah, daddy!
@@peterzang What do you mean?
Nice story but musically it has nothing to do with punk. Even in fashion and attitude, Johnny was no slob and always impeccably dressed, at times aristocratic. Punk didn’t invent rebellion either, Elvis was after all
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec I could agree with the fashion argument and image (even though when it's smack entitling your dellusions of grandeur, tragedy ensues, yet never the case with Thunders, even at late interviews). But on the musical side, i won't even go into detail, just remind you of the way to the New York Dolls first album. The roots are all there, and even if I'm European and a contemporary of the 1st wave 76, i support the idea that Punk, first of all, is American. Jonesy was a Thunder's fanatic (just like the old parrot would say...)
@@jocksilver7 so was Mick Jones of The Clash, the primary musical songwriter and guitarist, and all of The Ramones. Johnny Thunders doesn’t just loom large over punk though, a lot of the hair metal bands like Motly Crue, and Guns n Roses (roughly defined, guns was hard street rock and roll but same scene) worshiped him/dolls. The alternative acts like Replacements loved him too and took a lot. Don’t forget Aerosmith, which was hard rock. Everyone in rock and roll looked up to him, not just as an influence but a major influence, generally speaking. I don’t quite get your grandeur comment but if Johnny thought he was great it wasn’t cause of smack. He saw his impact in real time touch all four corners of the earth albeit indirectly.
Blues was the mother of rock and roll, but you wouldn’t call Robert Johnson and muddy waters rock and roll would you? Moreover they would be offended and hated rock. Johnny hated punk too. He often got angry if you called him a punk. What really happened is after the demise of the dolls , punk culture embraced Johnny and bought his records/tickets. His association was largely due to that, his audience, but he was no punk
One long sleeve, one short. Wish I'd have thought of that.
Just subscribed. Love this one 🤘🏽🤎
I have lived this song.
Moi je découvre ce groupe, comme les N Y Dolls c est pas mal pas évident le punk rock les membres du groupe les décès etc , car je suis plutôt glam rock , hard Rock depuis le lycée. C'est loin😢 j écoutais Ramones je préfère leur version.
do you have some heroin?
Some of the best RNR EVER! 🙂
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The aftermath of the New York Doll's...The Origional Heartbreaker's!
DEE DEE RAMONE FOREVER!!!!!!!!
Superb.
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Estos tíos eran acojonantes.El mejor punk.John Genzale.Mr.Thunders.Tengo el álbum en vinilo,L.A.M.F.Il sacco di Roma.
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Maybe the greatest punk song ever? definitely top three. (in my opinion) the Damned 'New Rose', Pistols 'God save the Queen'. and honorable mention to about 50 Ramones songs.
Dee De Home :)
Johnny. The real deal.
Gran Tema, fue Popularizado por The RAMONES !!.. 💪✌️👌👍🙏💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💔
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Compuesta por Dee Dee ramone
Pure punk rock!!!
Not
@@teterouge1472"NADINE, get the kids and take em to your mother's, the punk police are creeping out of the woodwork"
Mr. Johnny Thunders.
RIP Johnny Thunders
So true 😊
some people just can't say no, ever. I never got anything back from the pawn shop.
That’s why you don’t take your stuff
My losing things to the Pawn Shop days are over...15 years over. Last thing I lost to a Pawn Shop (or should I say "to a bad habit"..was a 1958 Gretch Acoustic electric guitar)
Worth about 2500$ lost it for 500$ dollars...I'm so ashamed and will NEVER EVER go down like that again...if I ever find that guitar I will buy it back!
🖤🤟
@@wesleyalan9179 that is a heart breaker.
@@theitineranthistorian2024
Brother, tell'me 'bout it😫
I've never talk about it, it still hurts me till this day.
It's real sad and I'm a f*kn scum bag for it. That vintage guitar was handed down to me by my step father...it was handed down to him by his dad when he past away. I was 22 when it was handed to me. I was trying to get clean at the time, but I was still using ..well,it got the best of me and I owed a man $$...off to the Pawn Shop I go😫😫
I've never told him about it. My mom and him divorced and I haven't seen him since (him and I got along, I actually looked up to him, we had a great relationship)..that was over 15 years ago..I haven't seen or talked to him and that shit absolutely destroyed me. I'm completely sober now and I grieve it everyday man.
@@wesleyalan9179 some very famous guitar players have done the same.
Walter, genious.❤
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nice footage
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The Replacements saw Thunders. They recorded Johnny's Gonna Die. They were big fans. They saw it coming.
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I guess a lot of people saw it coming. I remember when Thunders passed I read an obituary saying bout how people were expecting him to die for so long that when he actually DID, it took everyone by surprise
Kinda hard to *NOT* see it coming. JT really went full throttle for a long time.
@@Shikta-poobah67 Agreed. That said, I wrote off Keith Richards decades ago. You could have made me a bet on a sliding scale for how many decades Keith would live and I'd be sending you all my earnings.
@@robertmcmanus9185 The ironic part is that there are now doubts that his death was caused by the generally accepted notion that it was a cocaine/methadone overdose. Some people are saying it was foul play. Others claim it was rapidly advancing leukemia. I, like so many others just thought for years that the dope would get him in the end.
C ' monnnn Genzale 🇮🇹❤ and Dee Dee King.
I miss that entire sound....and the newness of hearing it when it first came out. And I forever love it, if for no other reason than it killed Disco.
I've got to admit I liked when the Clash or The Stones put their flavor on disco. Yeah disco is lame, but I gotta say Jamiroquai, rocks. They do a funky 70s lounge Fusion disco. I don't know a bass player who doesn't like the chops, the bass players playing impresses metal, punk, or rock bass players.
@@bradenzo5386 all disco isn't even lame
@@zeynaaidara8432 I agree, when you put some serious jazz funk musicians together, it can be top notch. The problem is to much of it was about selling records and image. Factor in the keep it simple so even a child can follow along made lots of it lame.
@@bradenzo5386 And "I feel love" is a masterpiece
@@zeynaaidara8432 yep. as an electronic music fan, (amongst other things, including Punk/new wave). I Feel Love is right up there. Giorgio Moroder, what a hero.
The Thunders estate is starting to release some bootlegs from his personal stash. Chunklet put one out not too long ago. Great great stuff
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I'm looking for some heroin. Should i go to the estate sale?
I knew this as Ramones song, but had no idea about details
What club are they playing in, in the first live footage from the Punk Rock Movie? Cool background
Wow
I saw Thunders at the Marquee in 89
Génial !
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oh my friend!
R&R.PU
This song is so sad and relevant to society right now 😂😅😢🤦♂️
Saw him at Rock Garden in Covent Garden 1981 i think ...completely off his head on smack ..with Jerry Nolan as well
Johnny was in my sisters class in Fatima, I lasted 3 years until I hit a nun and thrown into public school, thank god
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JOHNNY WAS, AND STILL IS MY GUITAR MENTOR. DOPE KILLED HIM.
johnny killed him
I gotta side with the Ed bomb. Jonny killed, Jonny.
Im not saying Im any better. Hell, I would have drugged out and killed myself at least ten years prior to Jonnys, departure if i was in his shoes.
@@bradenzo5386 one is too many. a thousand never enough
@@edrader that's how Jonny lived. I honestly think he was the one who inspired Aerosmith, to slow it down and save money. The dolla and Aerosmith were signed to the same label. The dolls already had q name when Aerosmith showed up at Max's. Between 1980and 82 Aerosmith tried to get sober, Jonny was an effing mess around than, living in the streets and such. He would do a dolls reunion, get a good amount of cash , and back on the streets. He had a good period of semi sobriety in thar Era only to become worse than ever. Its a sad story, but that's also part of what made Jonny, Jonny, that recklessness.
@@bradenzo5386 that explains why tyler and johanson had the same girlfriend
Alguien sabe que año y lugar fue el concierto que aparece en la escena 0:55? Se ve que ese concierto estuvo genial, si es que es real.
😍
Sentimiento inexplicable
The first real punk band imo, they were hugely influencial but just couldnt get a record deal until 1977 due to their heavy drug use but their live shows were supposedly legendary and had huge impact on the big 3 punk bands, sex pistols, the clash and the damned.
Pffttt...the punk big 3...Ramones,Circle Jerks,Sex Pistols... maybe,but there are a few who would be above Clash & Damned
@@noneavailable5515 Y hay más,para gustos,los colores:Dead Kennedys,Black Flag,Dead Boys,Flesh Eaters,etc.etc.
Ahead of their time
@noneavailable5515, circle jerks above the clash? To each their own but that’s not going to be a widely shared opinion.
New York Dolls
Walter ...😭
Edited from the start of 'Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers - live at the Lyceum' videotape...& equally ropey LP - JT had to overdub vocals because of his weak performance ( possibly due to being drunk while withdrawing)
The early stuff is partly from the '76 Anarchy tour' . Anyone know where the pogoing audience footage is from ??
Vortex '77 possibly ?
Still digging that ditch
I saw UFO open for Saxon in San Antonio.
Esa canción la creo DEEDEE RAMONES. rats
Walter Lure was a very nice fellow.
❤️👏👍💥🤟🌹
Pure protopunk 🎸🎼💉☄️🎤😎,
Is Dee Dee home ?????????????????/ :)
Yea his song !
🎶🖤🎶🖤🎶🖤
which version is this ? it sounds better than any version i have , the drums sound so detailed
The jungle records 1994 reissue there’s so many mixes for lamf I lost count
Gg lamf had s lot of reissues jhonny never liked one of them
@@flinchey6962 haha i hear you
Which is the best mix of the LAMF album?..This production on this track is massive!!
Their version with Richard Hell singing it which was probably the original was cool some words are different...i know Dee Dee mostly wrote it btw
Yes! Hobo time Traveler Band
These guys were great. I remember Johnny Ramone talking about what bands were competition to them and he said the Heartbreakers were good but they were a bunch of Junkies and wouldn't last long. How prophetic......
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If the Faces traded booze for dope;.....here they were!
How devine is this song? Let me know!
What are the number of rock casualties that bought into the romantic notion of the Keith Richards persona but lacked the otherworldly constitution that was the real Keith Richards. In americana music it was Townes VanZant who many tried to emulate with disastrous results (including Townes who lacked the singular resilience of Richards). Thunders was a great songwriter and performer, when the drugs weren’t in the way. I just wish he would have made it to the other side of his addiction. I look at Johansen still making great music into his 70’s and dream about the 2 of them doing a reunion at the Carlisle enjoying their deans of rock and roll status. The crowd finally caught up to what the Dolls achieved in too too short a life for that band. I hope Thunders had an inkling of what he helped create.
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Let’s give Walter Lure props he sang on a lot of these songs on LAMF
Cool sound
Best punk song ever?!?
Darren Sussex 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably
Top 10 !
One of the best songs in any genre period
Not sure there is such a thing.... except for the individual.
Let’s give Walter Lure props he sang on a lot of these songs
The Heartbreakers are the most underrated Rock n Roll band of all time.
i always thought this was a ramones song till right now
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Is that a Robert Quine sighting at 1.00 in the back when Johnny isn't playing?
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I always thought this was Ramones
I like the Ramones' version better.....a lot more energy to it.
👍💯
Chinese Rock = Vancouver = Hongcouver
PUUR PUNK !
Replacements' "Johnny's Gonna Die" is painfully prophetic.
The song is the dee dee Ramone original
The best 👍🇨🇵
DeeDee sound.
looks like Bob Stinson in the background at about 1:01.
Everything is in the pawn shop.
Modern day: Chinese rock is fentanyl , and all my best things were definitely in Hawck
This is truly the superior version .
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@@PatrickMorris-sm8dv do you have any heroin?
@@WhiteyMcCracker yep
Cool. Do you get it from Stu?
@@WhiteyMcCracker nah i get it from my other brother. his name is fred