Kansas vs North Carolina - By The Numbers
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- At Colorado you will be granted the option to choose which ship you want to grind, the NC or the Kansas. This video is intended to make that choice easier.
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A slightly different video this time, letting you guys make up your mind on which one you think is the better ship. Not much of a debate really if you ask me.
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If they made these secondary build battleships i could understand some of the trade offs, but these just look awful!! This means more rear echelon camping battleships instead of mid range/pushing Battleships!! :(
BOOOOOO
Do you feel there is any case where the T8 is like one of those punishment ships that make you pay in advance for a better later upgrade? I mean, WG has a long history of each line having one or two ships that were a painful grind, truly horrendous, that people still went through in order to get to the later tech tree ships beyond it?
Examples would be the original Pensacola, the Ognevoi, the Emerald, etc. Horrendous ships (at least when released) of their tier, massively inferior to what was already available at the tier, but something one would grind, (along with one's teeth), in order to unlock something worthwhile behind it? Is the Tier 10 worth it I guess is the ultimate question?
Migth be some flamu bias involved?
I agree that it tier 8 the NC clearly takes the upper hand but the Montana doesn't get that much better and is tier 10. What about a Vermont and Montana comparison?
WG: have you ever seen a full line of Colorado's
Playerbase: _no_
WG: *_would you like to_*
but still colorado is better tier to tier then these ships. Ps: i accually would have liked better colorados you know punchy guns whit okay reload(not 40secs), fat with good topr protection(maybe even go over 50% i mean look at these thicc girls), Accually usefull armor, Awesome AA(the huge superstruckture has to be good for tsomething) and make them slow and turning like a beyblade because their so short (would be funnier to play).
@Nick Garner that's not what he said. He said tier to tier, meaning Colorado does better at it's tier than the new T10 does at T10.
@Nick Garner well, ofc, NC is a Fast Battleship...
Playerbase: "NO!"
Laughed so much i made abs thanks
I’m taking North Carolina, it’s out of the question for me. I can’t understand justifying a 40 second reload on guns that aren’t accurate, shells that are among the slowest, armor that won’t shatter moderate calibers of HE shells, and a hull that is too large and slow to avoid torpedoes.
Dew It!! For the memes... And the "fun and engaging gameplay"
After all, the spreadsheet says fun.
NC is my favorite bb at any tier. For some reason that ship and I just mesh.
If you didn't have to suffer through the Colorado twice then I would say maybe, but as it stands that'll be a Hard No for me!
@ANUBHAV SHARMA as well as hearing the sound of triple perma fires
WG: ok so we'll nerf the North Carolina
@Nick Garner alabama is a much better ship if straight up gun power is what matters to you
maitreya sharma You don’t get Massachusetts for gun power and NC has better gun power than Alabama
Pls no
@Nick Garner Thats exactly what they want from you. Making all Techtree ships more shitty so you throw money at their face. No thanks, they ain't seeing a buck from me anymore. Not worth supporting them more than by playing their game every now and then. Since the Puerto Rico disaster it gets worse with every ship they release, either completely broken or just a shitshow with special "gimmicks" you can exploit every 10th game or so if youre lucky.
@Nick Garner you lucky bastard :D I only got Tier 5 crap
I didn’t think there could be a line more DOA than the UK heavy cruisers, but WG found a way! Gotta hand it to them.
Totally agree. On the plus side it's finally made call time and uninstall the game.
DOA? Forgive my ignorance.
Dead on Arrival.
@@davidandmartinealbon3155 Dead On Arrival, because these things were already powercreep since their announcement
German dds? Or where they strong at some point in time?
Fun fact.
Due to improved heal, Kansas has less hp + heal then Colorado (assuming both have flags).
Colorado: 125k
Kansas: 123k.
Which is just... bravo WG.
Conkek with the correct skill choices and cpt can go over 300k :D
Doesnt matter average players will take SE for extra hp
@@gabbens280 Sure but Conkek requires different line, not next BB from the same line
@@Poctyk ok. I guess that would be relevant If you're already on Colorado and too lazy to get a floating barbecue stand.
Shhh! Don't say that, WG will just nerf the Colorado to make her "better fit with the tier progression".
So, the gimmeck of the new line is increased suffering for the player.
Best summary ive heard
Description update: This video is intended to make you choose NC lul
I mean honestly Pretty much everything about the Kansas is slow. Unless it comes to being sunk. That might be the only fast experience with her.
even that may not come fast since you won't make it to frontline in time , trust me all your DDs will be dead by time you get into gunrange :D
So in exchange for Def AA, and having an old school American diner for a bridge, you get tier 6 guns, worse hull, worse maneuverability, and worse concealment. Seems legit.
Worse heal too
@ANUBHAV SHARMA technically it is the T7 guns from Colorado, but the performance on Kansas' guns is far worse than Colorado even as shown in the graph in the video
@ANUBHAV SHARMA you found the colorado to be worse in pen than kansas?
@ANUBHAV SHARMA up close the Kansas does pen better, like below 5km. Anywhere above that the Colorado pens better
@ANUBHAV SHARMA Well of you look at thr chart in the video you will see that that isnt the case
Wider ships should get a bonus on accuracy, because they are more stable firing platforms. I don't like it when games like this put the disadvantages of a certain trait (like being wider) in, but withhold the advantages. After all, someone designed the ship that way for a reason and the reason was certainly not that they just wanted to make it easier to hit.
This reminds me of the Haenschel HS-129 in Warthunder, the famous "Duck".
The thing flies supper sluggish and awkward in the game, which is accurate to the real thing, but the real thing flew shitty because it was heavily armored. It was kind of a flying tank.
Yet, in the game you don't get the armor, you just get the shitty flight characteristics caused by the armor, but none of the protection from the armor.
Strangely enough, with Russian technology it is the other way around. Russian fighter planes in WW2 had powerful guns, but those guns were very unreliable, the vibrations caused malfunctions, damaged the guns and the aircraft and the heat from the guns made the engines overheat.
In the game though, you get all the fire power and none of the issues.
You saying ShitVaks are good? lmao nice meme
@@jotafonso3310 They definitely were back when I played the game, in the patch 1.3 to 1.4 days. When you heard the "dingeling" ringing sound of a Russian 20 or 23mm gun, you were toast.
German guns only produced sparks and barely did any damage, in comparison.
@@the_dented_NPC I'm not saying the game is super realistic, but other things in the game are justified and explained with realistic traits too.
Yeah its the same thing with World of Tanks. You have the giant german tanks with excellent ground clearance but that just makes them easy taegets. The flat russian pancakes that should all get stuck on a little branch drive around even faster....
On a battleship hull, stability wouldn't matter much, at least compared to a NC. Heck, if we go for it, I'd even say NC would be more stable than the Kansas because it seems to have less weight up there (one less superimposed 406mm turret is 121 less tons way above the waterline), thanks to a lighter structure and less guns.
In any way, in the flat seas of world of warships, there are no difference in stability between any battleships out there. A NC fires 11 tons in a full salvo, that's like, less than 1/3000 of its mass. It wouldn't even give it any degree of tilt when firing.
Kansas advantages:
- More alpha
- More shell volume (per salvo)
- Better AA (with dfaa)
- Better citadel protection
- Better health pool
- Better torpedo protection
- Better AP shell velocity
Kansas disadvantages:
- Worse dpm
- Worse armor
- Worse heal
- Slower (by 4 kts)
- Significantly worse accuracy (by .5 sigma)
- Worse shell damage (individual)
- Worse penetration
- Worse angling ability
- More freeboard
- Worse detection
- Worse rudder shift
Who thought this was a good idea? Even ignoring the individual weight of each point the Kansas has more disadvantages than not, and when you consider how much some of those points matter for performance and the fact that they all fall on the disadvantages side (speed, accuracy, dpm, tankability, etc.), it's just hard to believe that someone looked at this and gave it the ok.
Edit: I'm aware that the "advantages" aren't really advantages, what I'm pointing out here is that even including "advantages" that are irrelevant, NC *STILL* has more advantages by numbers alone.
Forgot to add 'slightly' in front of the 'better', mate.
@ANUBHAV SHARMA Because you turn so fast when yo slow down to 16 knots by looking at the rudder
The main problem is that all of the "worse" categories are real, while all the "better" categories come with huge asterisks. These ships aren't trade offs, they are _false_ trade offs.
-More alpha... but not really, since they lack the penetration to do that damage.
-More shell volume... but not really, since the actual number of shells that go where you actually want them are lower.
-Better AA (with dfaa)... but _only_ with DFAA, otherwise worse.
-Better citadel protection... but not really, since your bow is so steep that you can get citadelled from the front more easily and since you lean when you turn.
-Better health pool... but not really when you include heals.
-Better torpedo protection... OK, this one may a be real(!) advantage.
-Better AP shell velocity... but at most ranges it's not humanly possible to notice and at extreme range NC is slightly better. (This, btw, is where NC was already _the_ worst battleship in the game)
-Better turning circle... but when you factor in rudder shift, base speed and velocity bleed, you still take longer to turn around.
First point is not quite right. Kansas has lower alpha damage per shell at 11.8k, NorCa has 13.1k. Even Colorado with 12.4k is better at that point.
Edit: Nvm, I see you already mentioned that in "disadvantages". But if by "more Alpha" you mean "bigger Alpha-Strike", its basically the same as "more shell volume (per salvo)".
I hope you do something similar to this comparison for Vermont vs Montana.
Vermont brings at least something to the table 12 457mm guns with better sigma then Montana and better plating. There is a clear trade off there. T8/9? You pay with your stats to get... what exactly?
@@Poctyk DFAA and one extra turret.
I think Montana is way better. Again, the stats doesn’t fully describe a particular ship. And also, good ships don’t always win you know? Kremlin doesn’t always win against Bourogogne, and so does Yamato against Montana.
@@theheavytonk928 the thing is, Yamato can park nose in at 20km and yeet a Montana tru the nose
This is at long range
At short range Montana has the speed and alpha to get closer and blap the Yamato
I really want to like the new BBs because they just look so meaty and intimidating, but they just don't have what they need to make them competitive. I think these will get a buff of some sort in the future (I hope).
These new BBs were put out there as canon fodder for the new Russian cruisers and the FDR to farm. After buffing a turd, it is still a turd.
@@fedupgamer9075 keep the bow/stern at 32, but buff everything else to 38, give it ~2.0 sigma, boom, done.
I can only hope they get changed to be more enjoyable and useful, or that there is some change in gameplay coming to make a niche for them, but given all the information we have about how they were changed over the course of their stay on the test server I have to doubt changes will come quickly, or at all.
they will not buff new ships in the first 3-6 month - so you have to wait till 2021 I think. They tested and check this line and say: They ok and good to play.
The Kansas is just a Overbloated Damage Pinata for every enemy to farm the hell out of....
Outfitted with the Golden Eagle-camo this is gonna be the prettiest port queen you have ever seen.
NC > all the new US BB's, without question.
At least the Vermont still has 12 Georgia guns..... right? ...
*gets nerfed three days before release*
@@brilliantlysplendid nerfef??? When?
I don't know man. Vermont looks spicy.
Vermont looks broken:
51mm deck armor , 38mm side plating, 2.1 fucking sigma and the heaviest broadside in the game by a very long shot.
@@Axel23410 1.95 sigma. Eitherway she's more accurate than Montana with 12 457mm guns that fire the heaviest shell. Not counting Shikishima
I actually liked my colorado back in the day. Just seems like US BB line except the obvious exception got powercrept. But instead of solving the issues WG just decide to bring out ships that are either so shitty or so op that you wonder if they all Just played as Eddie as a child in tekken or if they just never played a video game in the first place.
The Colo teaches you positioning and Angling. It has its niche, sometimes its nice to just crawl along trying to blap people
What was the point of this line? again: why couldnt we get a Georgia-esque split or light armor secondary heavy caliber bois instead of this crap??
The point is to make people grind more ships, some will free xp the line so basically spend money and WG love the money ;)
Because Georgia is an overpowered clusterfuck of gimmicks stolen from other nations. Making an entire split out of it is a shitty idea
Maybe because they felt the game needed some cannon fodder for all the Russian HE-spammers? Only explanation I can think of.
I think a buff to secondaries (probably a plating buff as well) to Kansas would be nice, with its citadel armor it could be justified in a close-quarters role. a role this game needs more of.
theres a alternative line made of massachusetts - georgia - ohio and you only need to pay for it :D
Still weird for me... There are so many people skipping Colorado and New Mexico because theyr unfun and sheit. Now there is a full T10 split? There was a chance to do American Secondary Ships! A Chance for Washington! One of the last BBs that went into a real 8km brawl! But no... We get DMG Piniatas... So sad...
I really wish they had buffed the secondaries and made the ships slightly more resistant to HE spam too. These would have been hilarious brawlers for sure. And would be a desperately needed class in a game where the current playerbase is more content sitting next to each other behind the same island and sniping the entire game instead of pushing and capturing objectives. The Italian BBs are my last hope that they will release a BB line this year that actually focuses on dealing with HE spammers and pushing objectives and winning games. I wonder though, I think WG said that part of the new captain rework is that most silver BBs will get a slight secondary buff. I wonder if that buff might make the thicc USN BBs any better at pushing.
Massachusetts, Georgia and Ohio would make mighty fine silver branch... but alas they become premium branch of fast healing secondary brawlers.
These ships were doomed the second they weren’t Russian. R.I.P
"Ultilimately" awesome comparison!
This is why I love your content, Flamu. You are brutally honest when things are going good or going bad with the state of the game. You've pointed out things you really like, even are hopeful and optimistic about the future, if cautious, and I'm hoping that WG listens to you and all the others about this ship line being unfun to play. Underpowered compared to everything else at the same tier, I can only imagine how OP the tier 10 will have to be amazing to warrant the grind with these ships.
So in short, thank you again sir. :D
Very informative for me, thanks Flamu.
40 second reload. Nope, NC every time.
Well at least it allows you the time to relocate with that crap top speed before the guns are ready to go again!
@@laszlokaestner5766 you can play some AL or read the newspaper while you wait to catch up to your team
These ships serve absolutely no purpose.
Actually, they do. They amuse ex WoW players like me to no end.
well grind grind grind
doubloons doubloons doubloons
nothing new
Well they have 2 proposes:
-Cannon fodder for all HE spammers, free food for Smolensk, Colbert, even for trash like Atlanta
-they make you laugh. Theh are so bad and ineffective even if u give them full broadside and expect to get blaped, u get 2 bounces and 1 shatter (especially true for Kancers)
Carry on my wayward son, For there'll be peace when you are done
When Flolo pronounces "Kansas" it sounds like he's saying "Cancerous". Very apt considering the abysmal ship.
Nice vid, I was planning on getting the Kansas someday, still on New York. This review is giving me second thoughts. Still excited to get the New Mexico soon.
This makes it really easy if you haven't done the main US BB line yet
T8 colorado t9 colorado
T10 colorado with 457mm
Kansas. Best possible pick. ;-)
The only way I'd be getting this one is through the challenges, regardless of the fact that there's barely anything redeemable here. I'd rather go through VIII-X once just so that it acts as an easy reset for the Research Bureau when I get the chance. The North Carolina seems like the no brainer here.
In the night action of the Battle of Savo Island, the USS Washington, sister ship of the North Carolina with gunnery master Ping Lee as Admiral placed 9 broadsides into the IJN battlecruiser Kirishima's broadside averaging a 15 second reload time. Nearly 72 16 /55 hits at 7000 yards in 3 minutes... must have been awesome.
i really wish WoWs would add the comparison chart to this game from over on WoT. it lets you do side by side comparisons of up to 8 tanks and you get to mess with skills and modules and upgrades to see what works best for you before you commit to a certain build type.
If the guns were the _same_ in all respects as the Colorado's except for reload, this would almost be fine. Not great mind you, but mostly OK.
Right now this is a free port slot.
Would love to see a Iowa vs Minnesota comparison Flamu with a eventual Montana vs Vermont .
I am excited that this new line will finally allow me to grind the french cruisers by being so unappealing that I don't want to play them at all. A shame really, because I kinda liked the idea of a very slow BB line because it was something different.
Definitly the new go to Tier 8 BB. ;-)
Can't wait to play it.
another USS Mobility Scooter, great. Thanks, Flamu saved me grinding these losers.
Just unlocked it, can’t wait for the line to be active...so I can sell it.
Ditto
Honestly, You could have just stopped right after the guns. Main batery is THE purpose of the battleship, and with guns so shit Kansas has no purpose at all.
I asked WG to change my Kansas for a Furby.
All I can say is. "Dorthy(WG), I wont be playing Kansas at all!"
Is it possible that this new line was designed with the upcoming Commander re-work in mind? Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
It's actually amazing how often you say "significant"... you could almost make a drinking game out of it
Waiting for the day he says "significant sigma"
Could u do a stat by stat review on Oklahoma and New York/Texas?
Texas is best, Texas is chad
I feel like if they gave the Kansas’s armor an angular resistance buff against AP shells (like making the auto bounce angles larger), 1.7 sigma, and the regular American bb heal, I can consider grinding out this line. But these new American bbs are slow and won’t be that significant in games without a cv.
I am having a hard time finding a reason one should choose the heavy BB line over the old one...
13:56 you heard the man kids, go kansas, i'm gonna be happily watching over you, with my thunderer on the other side (Team). :D
Playing the 2nd line of Big Slow Battleships is like marrying someone.
You get all the 3 rings.
Engagement ring.
Wedding Ring.
And SUFFERING
Enjoyed vid :)
thank you for the review - you very delicately gave us to understand that the ship is a piece of sh%t and thus saved our time :)
I agree with everything I still want Vermont even just for 4x3 457mm alpha , even if it got nothing else going for it. Still must blap Cruisers well , who make mistake ... or don't make them since overmatch :). Not gonna be best BB , heck not even average for T10 standards , but unique with gimmick yeah
Adding a new line which is Powercrept by the old line in the instant it was developed.
Is this called reverse Powercreep?
I am more iterested on the Montana vs Vermont comparison, 3x3 456mm guns sounds terrifying even for a thick boi (add in the fact that it has impresive armor, but still 40 seconds of reload and 22knots of speed are such important downsides that it wont matter)
Pressure from Weasley Gee Flamu? Just asking as I don't follow the other CC's anymore due to BS 💩💩 reviews, this review mode is spot on and gives anyone a fair and informed chance to make up their own minds, Great Content as usual 👍👍
Im not sure if buff to 30 sec reload will be enough to balance this ship
The new BBs are basically catering to the stay at the back of the map and snipe type of players. They don't get involved and are completely useless unless someone is alive to spot the targets for them. Allot of things need to be change so they can be a viable choice for players that don't do the sit back and snipe bb player. A buff to its speed and a lowering of the reload to 35 seconds instead of 40 seconds would make them just a little better. They are treating that they have 12 guns like they have to reload a heavier shell which really they should be the same guns as the North Carolina and Iowa have in terms of guns and shells. Making them slow as hell and a reload as long as hell is not balance its just making the ship line irrelevant right from the start.
How do you want to snipe with these sigma values?
@@NormusDiabolus What wargaming plans for them. That is why they are slow and have longer maximum range than most US BBs currently in the game.
@@02091992able The NC has nearly 600m more range then the Kansas, the Iowa has 50 Meters on the Minnesota (so nearly the same). Only the current Version of the Vermont ( which hasnt been released yet) has around 900 Meters more range then the Montana (and only .05 better Sigma). So compared to the tech tree ships.. not realy.
The title should be Kansas diss track
I notice the guns are 16 inch/45 caliber, where the actual South Dakota’s Of the 1920s (Of which the Kansas is a part of) Had a 16 inch 50 caliber guns. Essentially a heavier gun of the same dimensions of the Iowa’s guns. I feel they should have given it the Colorado’s AP performance to make it decent
Can you make another by the numbers about A. Newski and petro
Awesome comparison, very well done Thumbs Up!
I can't help to think that WarGaming is a little Bias on other warships then Russian warships.
They always have been.
I have been having some really good games in North Carolina lately. I take your advice and try to set up central positions, and then farm all the people trying to lemming to the flank. I don't think I will even bother with Kansas or the rest of the new US bbs.
Isn't concealment supposed to be based on the ships height? Kansas looks just as high as NC.
spicy stream today, that why the stream is not uploaded to twitch?
How much does it sell for?
Food news for me, I got to regrind colorado to prepare for kansas, and a special captain for the bbs
I got citadeled in the Kansas more than I got in the T7 Pensacola. Kansas has abysmal firing angles on top of an already angled hull, which makes you the GK of US battleships.
Only reason I am going to be doing this godforsaken line is so that I can reset the split once I finish the American fast BBs. I am sure once I understand the niche this ship fits into that I can get it to work, but it surely won't be pleasant, and I doubt we will be seeing cool replays featuring this line anytime soon.
All im getting from this entire line is that t8 and 9 r XP pinatas and the T10 may be decent, but its just a floating gun battery. The vermont may hit hard, but i doubt it hits alot or often... so thats a no for me.
Flamu, you should have went to Training Room and Sail the North Carol / Kansas right next to the other one for size comparison
Enemy Island spotted on the Horizon!
Concentrate fire on the enemy Island!
I already have the NC, and have gone through Colorado twice already. I'm not going through it or tier 8-10 versions of it.
I've already been down the NC line up to Montana (and liked it very much), so now it's time for the Kansas line. Yeah, the NC line is prolly stronger, but even though an electric egg cooker works way better, you can with a bit of luck and timing still get that perfect egg with just a camping gas burner, a pan and some water. I'll see how many times Kansas will net me that perfect egg. Though I hope not that much, so WG will up Kansas' equipment.
Important: On the "classic" American BBs (NC, Iowa, Monty) you don't need Superintendent, you can skill Basics of Survialbility instead.
You're looking at it all wrong!
The devs took the careful time to bake-in the powercreep, so that the ship feels just like her American tech tree counterparts!
A better comparison would be against Amagi, a very balanced T8 BB with 10 barrel shot guns that is also covered fully in 32mm. Kansas has 2 more guns but has to trade that for 20% less dpm, 0.3 less sigma, 5 knots speed, 5000 HP, worse penetration and shell flight speed. The only other advantage Kansas has is AA. But is it really worth that many inferiorities?
Please do another video like this for the Vermont and monti
geez, even if i get this thing for free i dont think ill play it. I was excited when they announced the line split, but everything after that has just been worse and worse news.
I’m not sure how o feel about this line. On one hand I’m glad that with the RN and now this line, new lines are coming out and completely marking older lines obsolete, like some other lines that have come to the game. But on the other hand these ships will be DOA probably. Someone will like it, after all people still play Goliath.
WG: "Our graphic designers have once again done an excellent job with the new American battleships. Let's our balance team fuck it up."
I citadelled a bow-in Kansas with a Baltimore. I'm not sure how it happened but it did happen. Might have been the smoke stack citadel thing. But still weird as shit.
Honestly though the minnesota looks okay, if not quite decent. the vermont actually looks pretty good with that deck armor, sigma and gun calibre. Meanwhile this thing almost looks like a t7 ship.
Its almost like they are trolling the player base for calling them out for Russian Bias as the only reason to get the tier 10 on this line is Supercontainers you get on Anniversary and Snowflakes at Xmas.
It should say something that I absolutely adore the New Mexico, yet this line makes me shrivel my nose in disgust.
The fast battleship line is better than the gun crazy slow battleships
The only reason to take this would be that there is a reward in higher tiers. Of course that appears to be not the case.
Excellent summary Flamu! One question, why on earth would WG release this line in this condition?
Pointless!
To keep players busy, so they run out of hours in the day to play (and pay for) something else
@@Panocek I'm not questioning a new line, I'm questioning a line thats completely pointless
Please do the same thing when Italian battleships come out!
So basically this is the timeline where the US didn't go with Fast battleships after the construction holiday and instead build super standards. Neet.
tu pense quoi des nouveau bateaux us flamu ?
The USeless BB line
I think it's funny that the Kansas and the Minnesota use the wrong guns...they should use 16"/50 caliber Mark 2 guns, which would give them a hugely better penetration. Obviously not as good as the later super heavy rounds as far as damage, but they should be pretty close in hitting power.
It is worth to compare Kansas to Amagi. Amagi has ~89% of Kansas' alpha strike damage while reloading 30 seconds, having better pen and ballistics, better dispersion and 1.8 sigma, being much faster and also having hard to hit citadel, better torpedo protection and similar HP pool.
I thin they should add speed boost to these ships so they can at least relocate using it when needed
@14.02 if you want to go for the Kansas...... why?
What was the point of these ships?
@@Sombody123 That's one thing... Have you seen the Vermont from about 15+km? It is as big as if it was half the distance as a normal sized ship...
Aaaand this is why putting a ship designed with early 1920s tech at such a high tier is as bad as including ships using tech from the mid 50s (surprisingly not just Soviet BBs, France is guilty of that too) at all. Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't the guns the original 16" ones designed for the Iowas but didn't fit in the turrets? If so I don't understand why they don't get the super heavy AP. Either way I don't see the point of 1.5 sigma guns on such a slow platform because that implies brawling rather than long range shooting but everything else says keep at mid range and use your armour to annoy people.
Shit, this scares me as I am just about to grind this line. Going to hate life for a while it seems.
Guys, what does Flolo say at around 12:05-"A big clumsy ship" or "A big clumsy shit"?
After watching the whole review, I vote for the second option :)
I think if i was to design the worst ship I could possibly do, it would be very close to this. When the Colorado seem to be the best ship of the slow-mo-line...
Can anyone post a vid of someone actually enjoying this line and is not sitting in a Smolensk shooting at it?
i was so excited when i got the new T9 BB. took it out and omg sold it straight away. 22 knot top speed. its armor did ok and guns are amazing. but speed is key in this game. being stuck in one spot all game just doesnt work. i know most BB players in pub matches sit behind islands all game but i dont. wont be used in CW, nor ranked. completely useless line
in saying that if had 35 second reload the DPM might change my mind or a speed boost. right now these ships are not ready for release