HOW TO WEATHER STRUCK POINTING [Bricklaying for beginners e.p.12]
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Bricklaying for beginners episode today is the final one in the pointing sub series. Weather struck and point is the the topic of the episode. I explain all the stages of how to achieve this pointing finish.
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I'm not a bricklayer but some repointing needs doing at the back of my house. My pointing is also weather struck. I've done a small amount but now I've watched this video I can see what I should have done. Thanks.
Little tip Rodian when using a level to strike the joints and cut , use a couple of elastic bands either end of the level , to keep it away from the brickwork to allow the excess to fall away and not build up on the level , it's a handy trick, if you don't have a purpose made pointing rule
Yup my dad made me a rule years ago from a piece of architrave with a couple of 1/4 inch scraps of wood pinned to the back also he made me a Frenchman don't see them much either now
Nice one TY
Really interesting the different ways people are taught. When I was at college, weatherstruck was the main joint they concentrated on, but we were never taught to overlap the brick face with the mortar. It was just tucked in by a couple of mm on the left of the perp and the top of the bed, but then just flushed to the adjoining brick, so we never used a straight edge to form the bed joint, just used the arris of the brick to give a straight line. The way you are doing it is WAY more intricate than I have ever done it! That would drive me mental😂😂
Yes agree with you ,Dad taught me exactly like you described and grandfather taught him too .
Making life and weather struck too intricate and a little messy getting mortar on brick face .
Still nice though .
I think the struck pointing does not provide a drip to shed the water, it makes more of a track for the water to follow.
Don’t go back and play with joints… Goes back and plays with joints 🤣🤣👏👏👏Good job
I hate the weather struck not to look at because it does look good but it so bloody slow to do nice vid 👍👍👍
im watching this saturday morning first thing, its ma second weekend of ma first ever attempt at weather pointing n im bloody loving it :D
' can't wrap ma head round why Nobody likes doing it. even though iv massively underestimated how long it takes meaning iv massively underpriced it, im enjoying it too much to let it bother me
When your a beginner everything is exciting but after years of doing it you begin to hate the little time consuming jobs once you've laid the bricks the last thing you want to do is the pointing...call the improvers give them some experience
most bricklayers can weather struck but like your mate who does it all the time he'll use different tools and be much quicker I class it as a different trade
Rodian , rake joints, then try it with old fashioned floor screed consistency, by that I mean a dry mix with hardly any water . It will look the muts,and have razor sharp cuts .it will 10 times quicker. also if you lay old smooth floor bricks use same struck pointing it looks epic.Zero pug stain
Also you will not need the spirit level if you use back heel/corner of trowel to cut along the joint
Finished as you apply it 👍😉
Hi mate.get a battern . Stick two pieces of cork or rubber washers on. This keeps it off the wall and steady. Then use a knife frenchmen or pointing trowel to cut mortar away
Get your self a horse hair brush or a feather duster ideal if it starts pissing down and you got to get away
Hey dude hope you’re keeping the head up and staying busy and healthy….
I never use a level to cut my bed joints, I suppose it depends on the brick.
Old stocks for example which ain’t a true straight brick I cut the excess off free hand with the pointing trowel.
I just work along with the edge and gently press the edge of the trowel into the joint and chop it off
I used to labour for an old school brickie. He taught me a lot. He has sadly passed away many years now.
He took the weather struck pointing excess on the perps free hand. But on the horizontals he used a 2 by 1 with a small bit of 2 by 1 at each end to keep the ‘rule’ off the wall.
I still remember him and God bless him.
Bird beacking is the most time consuming and if I was asked to point in Bird beacking again.....goodbye find someone else.
Your videos are good and explained well as you go along. I'm a brickie myself and your very Knowledgeable. Keep up the good work my friend.
Lovely looking finish ..... a total faff to do 😳😟. Looks smart that Rodin . You should call the outtakes “Rodian swears 🤬🤬🤬😂🤣🧱👍🏼
Use a plasterers small trowel to point, you'll do it in 1/10th of the time.
Quality work bud
Most waited lesson thanks
super great technique .... great demo
Sound 👌🏻
This looks so painstaking... eff that!
A good rule of thumb for thicknesses. A trowel blades thickness of depth in the joint. And a trowel blades thickness of sticking on the face of the brick. Ie. Overlap and under lap of lipping. Tbf as long as it looks good then that's what matters. But massive chunky weather strucking looks horrible. I've found that a 1 inch matching trowel works very well for laying on. And surprisingly.. a plastered trowel will also work for you and can be used to trim the excess.
Do you mean a plasterers snall tool? That's all I use!
I am really appreciating these videos. My question is: Why do you have to hold the level to scrape the excess off of the bottom? Can you just scrape it away from the brick similar to how you did the top?
Do you live near an Airport? I swear every 3 to 4 minutes I hear a Plane flying over great work by the way
Sir Rodian Knight of the Bricks
What about doing traditional tuck pointing. Ive never done that .
get on with it waffles 🤙😆😆
my internal rough walls get a tuck point every now n then just makes the brickwork 100% strong bud!!
we build double skin brickwork houses.
yeewww 🤙
Get on with it waffles 🤣🤣🤣🤣
what about just scraping the excess off with the trowel instead of cutting?
I'm, by no means, an expert but my guess is that taking off the excess with a trowel wouldn't leave and lip
Frenchmen and straight edge with raised ends . But you are to young to know about that.
Your videos are very educational. What is the best mix ratio with lime mate?
It's like anything if you do it all the time . You get good at it
No bk in uk unfortunately
very nice video so handy and showing me another easyer way of doing the job way ...every day is a school day :)
But watching this i just wanted to ask You two different questions ...
1. How would You clean brickwork smuges etc. (lime mortar) ?
2.Would You be able to build a sample of rat trap bond please :) ?
I have recently done a rat trap bond video and if the excess mortar doesnt brush off then it would have to be brick acid.
@@RodianBuilds i dont know it is just me and something wrong with acid but it doesnt work on lime mortar
Hi, great video, what mix did you use for pointing? Sand to cement
Just watched all three of your pointing videos. They're excellent! You explain things very clearly, and pros and cons that other pointing videos don't. I like your humour too. The bucket handle looks the nicest to me and the easiest, so I'm thinking of buying one of those jointing iirons. Would you say it's easier than the recessed pointing for a beginner like me? And for coarse sharp sand and general use cement which is what I've just bought, what ratio would you recommend? Thanks.
3 and 1 with half lime
Shout.. never be pushed in on the perp Just 1/8 th or 2mm. At most as water will ingress
Bed joints the same
Preferred it before you started.
it would have been easier to see on the joints closer to the camera lol
I will try 6 sand 1 white and 1 lime, thanks
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Thanks for the vid, little disappointed in the end result. I was taught pointing from the age of 13. Been to college and all that, been in construction for over 30 years, if you sow how i point, you would delete this vid. i am one of your subscribers, not a hater. I have made a vid on pointing and intend to put it online, still trying to get my head round the video editing software. watch out for this space.
I wasnt terribly happy with the outcome either. I really hate doing this type of pointing so this vid was a bit of a chore to do.
Deffo put your vids online! I'd love to see them. Editing is an art and it takes time to get good, much like anything. Trust me, just keep grinding at it and you'll be smashing out the videos!
thats why i like you rodian, nobody else would have replied. Thanks for the encouragement.
bad form pulling another mans work
Great work ,can you tell me when i watch brick or blocklaying videos why so much of the cement seems to just fall on the ground is it just the way it is or is it sloppy workmanship
Great brick and block layers will use enough mortar on the bed joint to cut and provide the excess needed for head joints. But I think it really comes down to efficiency on a personal level. Mud is the cheapest part of the process. Letting it fall to the ground and sweeping it up is better than smearing it on your work and washing it later.
Top and tail your joints
That’s really cool! I ended up going with Iron Round (or Rounded Iron) which I’m unsure of it being universal or a solely Australian term.
Anyway..
I have some photos up on my Instagram melissakfarrell for any one interested in seeing how my house is going. There is some of the brick work.. my brickie is amazing, tidy, neat and won’t be much for me to wash off later
How much you charge for a sqm?
You should start at the bottom of the perps,and the degree of angle makes no sense,as your brickwork automatically dictates that?
You should be taking more out at least 20mm. I like what you do but I leave pointing alone. My old man did tuck pointing don't think he'd be happy with that.
Keep well
Dont think your dads made a video of how to do it the way he does clearly the master of it
no mate -iv been laying bricks 40 years so don't take this the wrong way -muck to wet /when you do perps you put a "dot" at bottom of each perp so as not to stain course below /with the muck on the trowel swipe from left arris /don't use yer fucking fingers ,find a piece of architrave attach a spacer either end to allow excess to drop through without staining course below /use your trowel and simply cut the excess bed /there ya go ---any one know what a FRENCHMAN IS ? clue its proper old school home made tool for pointing - there must be some old bastards like me who will know
Grout bag it
Tried white cement 5to1 and still to light, all the estate is a sandy colour mortar
Rough. Your mud's too wet and that's why it's sticking to the brick faces.
Use a tuck point jointer and a 10" sq hawk. They never let it hang it was cut flush in USA.
Ox tools made in china they suck. They just struck it with the trowel in had as they load brick. Nobody laid brick like that years ago.
hi , im wanting to repoint the back of my house , its red brick & want to get the nice yellow finish you have got here , can i use hydrated lime or do i need hydraulic lime , answers will be massively appreciated , thanks
If your house is a new build, ie built in the last 25/40 years you should consider not using lime. I would suggest a 4:1 mix of sand / cement. No plasticiser
No feb ??good luck
How long does lime mortar take to set just repointed my fireplace ? 4 to 1 mix
It's probably set by now
@@pointlessvideogameclips5420 Funny.
If it isn't by now you may have done something wrong
Call vidmate 👍
Never seen weather pointing like that you will make 10 pound a day,
How did you get the sandy coloured muck
I think rodian uses white cement or uses lime mortar
@@anthnymalclmrberts3847
5 and 1 with lime and SBR
I used white cement mortar and 6 sand 1 cement 1 lime mortar
Making a right dogs arse of that.
Messy ,
Shite. if you have a wire cut face on your brick, it will get badly smudged doing it this way.
not the best pointing iv ever seen.think he knows what a french man is.who out there knows.
Me ,yes it's a bit messy with a pointing trowel. Frenchman is better for the perps ,a nice Marshalltown pointing trowel for the beds .
Use a straight edge timber with 2 screws each end to keep it off the wall to cut the beds .
Practice makes perfect ,the fine art of correct weather struck pointing is fading .
It is called "weather struck and CUT" . Flush up joints first ,then point in . You can't point in with wet muck as you can't compress water . The surface of the joint must be compressed otherwise it is jointed and not pointed . Bed joints first and then perps , and top and tail the perp joints . If you use hydrated lime in the mix the joints will crust up and you can brush off , if you use plasticiser you cant . Joints should be a lot flatter.
And CUT! Not point. FFS.
Gary
When doing weather struck its much easier if you use small hawk for the muck do all the perps first then the bed joints cut off using a length of chamfered architrave with small 10mm thick blocks fixed to back to keep off of wall cut of beds using a tool we used to make called a frenchmammade from and old knife this gives a really fine cut and the excess muck drops down behind straight edge and doesn’t mark the wall this was how it was always done much cleaner and quicker than the way shown good luck
J
I can do brickwork but my landlord wants me to point the house we rent. What could I charge him?
£50 per m2 weather struck but not like the vid.
I used to work on the railway and repair like for like from London to Dover to Exeter and the weather struck pointing done by the victorians was second to none . I am a subscriber to this channel and it's the first thing I've not agreed with . weather struck hangs over the brick below by 5mm approx. hence the brick below takes minimum saturation.
@@alf9956 Thank youfor your kind reply my friend. I am researching what you said to get a better idea. Afterall, i think most modern methods are shoddy.
Worst demonstration I’ve seen in a while ,hats off to you being brave to show your version of a struck joint .
Dump that Chinese trowel
not weather struck this is cut pointing
rodian, just come across your channel. not at all impressed with you pointing. Do you specialise in anything else other than brickwork. I've been in the trade for over 40 years.
All the gear and no idea...no damping the wall down before pointing..no hydrated in the mix as plastersizer..is your middle name smudged..it would take you 12 months to clean your work off..I wouldn't let you near a pointing job..another know-all video.
Sorry, don't like to comp;ain, but this was painfull to watch.
You ain’t got a clue
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A good rule of thumb for thicknesses. A trowel blades thickness of depth in the joint. And a trowel blades thickness of sticking on the face of the brick. Ie. Overlap and under lap of lipping. Tbf as long as it looks good then that's what matters. But massive chunky weather strucking looks horrible. I've found that a 1 inch matching trowel works very well for laying on. And surprisingly.. a plastered trowel will also work for you and can be used to trim the excess.