RSPB: Two-thirds of confirmed illegal killings of birds of prey last year linked to shooting estates

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  • čas přidán 22. 11. 2023
  • Around two-thirds of the confirmed illegal killings of birds of prey last year are linked to shooting estates. That's according to the RSPB's latest report on bird crime, which we can exclusively reveal. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
    Buzzards, red kites, goshawks, hen harriers, peregrine falcons and white-tailed eagles have all fallen victim to shooting, trapping and poisoning - adding to a total of 61 reported killings last year.
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Komentáře • 132

  • @felixarbable
    @felixarbable Před 7 měsíci +92

    Rich people crimes alway going unpunished

    • @JosephWood1941-iz6mi
      @JosephWood1941-iz6mi Před 7 měsíci +3

      They're usually the Magistrates.

    • @Revelationscreation
      @Revelationscreation Před 7 měsíci

      @@JosephWood1941-iz6mi The real raptor crimes are not by rich people but rather due to the traditional shootings of migrating raptors in islamic states.

    • @johnsmith-rs2vk
      @johnsmith-rs2vk Před 7 měsíci

      B...tards . Always have connections to the best restaurants .

  • @loosemink
    @loosemink Před 7 měsíci +37

    Why didn't they arrest the estates head gamekeeper?
    It's obvious he is prime suspect.

    • @yetidodger6650
      @yetidodger6650 Před 7 měsíci

      no proof

    • @mrfoameruk
      @mrfoameruk Před 7 měsíci

      @@henchy3rd Knowing and prooving are 2 totally different things.

  • @Aklith
    @Aklith Před 7 měsíci +55

    The whole dynamic of shooting estates is dumb, local communities have no power over land it's all offshore rich landowners buy up swathes of land and come over to show off to their other rich mates. We need land reform asap.

    • @rachelkristine4669
      @rachelkristine4669 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Some things just never change, do they? The big estates of the Landed Gentry have ALWAYS been like this. Absolutely disgusting! If someone poisons an American Bald Eagle, ya go to prison & get hit with a big fat fine! 😢

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Před 7 měsíci

      Pipe down wokey, mind your own.
      We all know this is because of immigration.

    • @Dasistrite
      @Dasistrite Před 7 měsíci +3

      Absolutely, the duty to protect and use land and it's resources belong to it's native historical inhabitants! Not for some modern rich bastards that call themselves world citizens.

    • @donnievance1942
      @donnievance1942 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Rich people or not, the idea of killing animals for entertainment is morally repugnant.

    • @Dasistrite
      @Dasistrite Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@donnievance1942 Hunting pests like rats or invasive species is justified and required to protect the local wildlife. Also hunting game for meat is justified because at the same time hunters do important population control. But hunting endangered animals is wrong like birds of prey.

  • @NeilEvans-xq8ik
    @NeilEvans-xq8ik Před 7 měsíci +25

    We're not allowed to wild camp because we supposedly don't look after the land. They claim ownership of the land because they supposedly do look after it. So why are they doing this? Is this looking after the land?

  • @cheryl5994
    @cheryl5994 Před 7 měsíci +33

    IT’S HEARTBREAKING BUT IT’S GOOD TO SEE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE TAKING ACTION & WANTING MORE TO PROTECT THESE BEAUTIFUL BIRDS.
    ON BEHALF OF THEM, THANK YOU! 🖐🏼😊

  • @philliprickard5280
    @philliprickard5280 Před 7 měsíci +15

    The 1% have a lot to answer for...

  • @davidlamb7524
    @davidlamb7524 Před 7 měsíci +23

    If a person was shot the police would identify the firearm and the owner. How serious are they about this ? Maybe their loyalties are more towards landowners and their gamekeepers. There's a lot of money involved.

    • @tomaccino
      @tomaccino Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah but what can you identify from shotgun pellets? Gangsters shoot single, round bullets and leave bullet casings all over the crime scene. This wildlife crime scene is a whole forest! And the hunter takes the shotgun casings with them, cause you know, that's polluting the environment 😂

    • @digitalimager4946
      @digitalimager4946 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I sympathise but I doubt it would be possible to identify a shotgun from a pellet.

    • @davidlamb7524
      @davidlamb7524 Před 7 měsíci

      @@tomaccino Good point

    • @davidlamb7524
      @davidlamb7524 Před 7 měsíci

      @@digitalimager4946 Yes. True

  • @Mkbshg8
    @Mkbshg8 Před 7 měsíci +51

    Why do these weirdos want to shoot birds of any kind, endangered or not?

    • @d614gakadoug9
      @d614gakadoug9 Před 7 měsíci

      It is depraved "traditional" bullshit they call "sport." A bunch of terminal sphincters with guns stand in a row while other dimwits drive birds out into the open to be shot by the turds with the guns.

    • @kahutochishisumi9056
      @kahutochishisumi9056 Před 7 měsíci

      To preserve their time pass killing of grouse and pheasants.

    • @Mkbshg8
      @Mkbshg8 Před 7 měsíci

      @@kahutochishisumi9056 Suppose that's fair enough as long as they're eaten, why shoot endangered birds though?

    • @kahutochishisumi9056
      @kahutochishisumi9056 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Mkbshg8 because they prey on the birds that they like to shoot for fun.

  • @downtourth
    @downtourth Před 7 měsíci +20

    If one knows how very wondrous this world really is, they wouldn't want to kill any of this worlds awesome creatures, including people

  • @aq9714
    @aq9714 Před 7 měsíci +12

    I find this to be deplorable. Hunting Estates?

  • @skinfan2806
    @skinfan2806 Před 7 měsíci +16

    I love birds of prey, they are beautiful smart animals. This breaks my heart.

  • @simonsimon325
    @simonsimon325 Před 7 měsíci +11

    These animals have to fight so hard to survive, while we humans are on easy street with our cosy heated homes, health care, and fully stocked supermarkets. And some of us choose to enter their world from our doddle of an existence, and destroy them for fun, or because they're in the way of our fun. It's despicably self-indulgent.

  • @slartibartfast7921
    @slartibartfast7921 Před 7 měsíci +14

    I think it’s about time that certain elements within the toff community were deported, they are a danger to the country in general. I hear Rwanda is nice this time of year.

  • @laurateaho-white9654
    @laurateaho-white9654 Před 7 měsíci +25

    If a poor person shoots a bird, its a crime. If a rich person shoots a bird, its sport and upholding tradition.
    If the birds are left alone, thats woke.
    The UK is a strange place.

  • @C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd
    @C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd Před 7 měsíci +5

    Sad to hear it is happening in the UK.
    About 25 years ago my family and I encountered an injured Golden Eagle near Black Butte in Oregon, USA. I caught it, and eventually it got transferred to the Cascades Raptor Center for rehab. It had been shot and had a broken wing which was healing poorly. They attempted to repair the damaged wing. I don't know what happened to it afterwards.
    There are farmers that dislike the birds of prey, due to a fear they kill livestock. Apparently the eagles can kill young lambs, although it is rare.
    However, the bird was found on public property, and likely didn't fly far after being shot.

  • @yokomotooto1255
    @yokomotooto1255 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It's a stain on shooting. Knarsdale estate telling the same lie others do.

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop Před 7 měsíci +3

    They should start cross referencing smartphone signal locations at times of bird deaths, and triangulate these numbers for questioning. Technology is ripe for situations like these.

    • @mobilephil244
      @mobilephil244 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Most of these murders occur in places where you can't get a signal.

  • @sebastianconrad6142
    @sebastianconrad6142 Před 7 měsíci +27

    Repugnant - those estates days are numbered!

    • @100Noddy
      @100Noddy Před 7 měsíci +4

      Unlikely in the UK, it is tied up with the constitution, royal patronage and favour. It cannot be undone without full constitutional reform, abolition of the monarchy and dispossesory title.

  • @anglebars6084
    @anglebars6084 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Believe a case of this happened in Scotland and the Perpetrator was actually arrested thankfully. Still happening sadly and some are thrown near the road side to try look like it’s been hit by a car. Horrible,horrible people.

  • @rphb5870
    @rphb5870 Před 7 měsíci +1

    birds are often a nuisance. I just saw the other day that one of our local airports are having a big problem with geese

  • @karenthompson7684
    @karenthompson7684 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s time to hold land owners accountable for murder they the birds have a right to be there

  • @parshakamarsh
    @parshakamarsh Před 7 měsíci +2

    They're all rich and privileged, they'll keep on getting away with it like everything else they do in this country unfortunately

  • @grzegorzgreg09
    @grzegorzgreg09 Před 7 měsíci +32

    I respect animals!❤ i wish I could say the same about humans

  • @johnferguson7052
    @johnferguson7052 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Game keepers complicit with the land owners

  • @ComicusFreemanius
    @ComicusFreemanius Před 6 měsíci

    "We're interested in conservation"
    Laughs in Falconer.

  • @terryluckhurst4114
    @terryluckhurst4114 Před 7 měsíci

    Surely the responsibility of these appalling crimes are the estate owners who payroll the gamekeepers; they should be charged under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.

  • @stuartparkinson6061
    @stuartparkinson6061 Před 7 měsíci +2

    they can breed and release birds from elsewhere before doing shoots

  • @cosmicpsyops4529
    @cosmicpsyops4529 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Power buys you insulation. It'll all collapse eventually at this rate.

  • @mrkus-nc7od
    @mrkus-nc7od Před 7 měsíci

    It's weird all those Grouse places used to be for Falconers only , Before the Gun , .I wonder how many Traps for Hawks are out there that you can't see

  • @thedisabledwelshman9266
    @thedisabledwelshman9266 Před 7 měsíci

    could face criminal prosecution? SHOULD FACE . NOT COULD FACE, CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

  • @christinavuyk2026
    @christinavuyk2026 Před 7 měsíci

    Why tf are we letting them get away with this!?! 🤬🤬🤬

  • @OpenEggs
    @OpenEggs Před 7 měsíci

    How can we stop them!?

  • @highmountainwolf
    @highmountainwolf Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow finally @channel4News something else to talk about. Don't go back WAR 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sgt_Bill_T_Co
    @Sgt_Bill_T_Co Před 7 měsíci

    Birds of prey only take a small proportion of game birds, maybe they should breed a few extra... Think I'll holiday somewhere other than Yorks next year.

  • @exerciseyourmind
    @exerciseyourmind Před 7 měsíci +7

    Hard to believe someone would shoot or posion a protected bird on their own land to be found by the public. A bit suspicious

    • @zetectic7968
      @zetectic7968 Před 7 měsíci +1

      A poor troll. Yes, a wildlife lover did it to frame them 🙄 The video told you the bird could fly after being shot & you think the estate just lets armed members of the public free range over their land 🤣

    • @exerciseyourmind
      @exerciseyourmind Před 6 měsíci

      @@zetectic7968 wouldn't be the first time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @barryolaith
    @barryolaith Před 7 měsíci

    Trying to keep an open mind on this for years but you have to ask who else other than shooting estates benefit from killing off birds of prey? Also, shooting organisations dressing themselves up as conservationists just doesn't withstand scrutiny if you look beyond the window dressing. They damage their own credibility with this tired old transparent posturing.

  • @blackbeard6423
    @blackbeard6423 Před 7 měsíci

    This is a disgrace. I think people are killing them because some people out there genuinely hate beauty and nature.

  • @kalelake3067
    @kalelake3067 Před 7 měsíci

    This is disgusting; how dare you..

  • @Pogo-A-Gogo
    @Pogo-A-Gogo Před 7 měsíci

    Lots of "we" being used here. I think you'll find it's a very minute few doing this...

  • @commentarytalk1446
    @commentarytalk1446 Před 7 měsíci

    Agree about bureaucracy being a negative outcome. That's just going to be the way the government squeezes area/sectors that it wants to bulldoze out of the way. Not a fan of shoots myself but I don't like the dirty work the gov does behind the scenes either: It effects too many areas eg building, farming, education and many many more... just ends up making ordinary people living their lives doing their best in 99% of cases making onerous over-head to worry about daily.

    • @tothelighthouse9843
      @tothelighthouse9843 Před 7 měsíci

      Ridiculous comment.
      When these rich estate owners refuse to manage themselves correctly, you're content to just say 'Let them do what they want'.
      If they were shooting children instead of birds, would that galvanize you? Or would they have to be pointing their guns directly at you before you realized that government regulations protect both the public & wildlife from the predations of powerful people. These rich people believe they're above the law because people like you bow & scrape to them. Instead, rich people need to be forced to recognize we're all the same before the law.

  • @robertskolimowski7049
    @robertskolimowski7049 Před 7 měsíci +2

    5:50 No no no, u just cannot seem to be able to police yourselves, that's why🙄

  • @Ryansghost
    @Ryansghost Před 7 měsíci +6

    The bird was shot elsewhere and staggered over to Knarsdale to die?

    • @noswim
      @noswim Před 7 měsíci

      Bro you're making yourself look stupid

  • @nickh2458
    @nickh2458 Před 7 měsíci

    Evil.....

  • @indyreno2933
    @indyreno2933 Před 7 měsíci

    White-Tailed Sea Eagle Classification:
    Kingdom: Animalia
    Phylum: Chordata
    Subphylum: Vertebrata
    Class: Aves
    Subclass: Neornithes
    Superorder: Palaeoaves
    Order: Falconiformes
    Suborder: Accipitres
    Superfamily: Aquiloidea
    Family: Aquilidae
    Subfamily: Aquilinae
    Tribe: Haliaeetini
    Genus: Haliaeetus
    Species: H. albicilla

  • @mdayaan296
    @mdayaan296 Před 7 měsíci

    Crazy water 15

  • @kopynd1
    @kopynd1 Před 7 měsíci

    name them Ian you know who they are tell the rspb

  • @rachelkristine4669
    @rachelkristine4669 Před 7 měsíci

    The Great Yorkshire Vet, Dr James Herriot, would be DISGUSTED! SHAME ON U YORKSHIRE! I expected better from u. Am sure Mr Herriot & his family would too, as he loved ALL animals! ALL CREATURES GREAT & SMALL, THE LORD GOD MADE THEM ALL! 🥺

  • @DesignerVamp
    @DesignerVamp Před 6 měsíci

    You're not a man, not a true hunter if you can only "shoot fish in a barrel"

  • @reverendbarker650
    @reverendbarker650 Před 7 měsíci

    Nice to see the UK class system still alive and well and working for the toffs and their mates. NOT !

  • @Jo28147
    @Jo28147 Před 7 měsíci

    :(

  • @Blaz1rrr
    @Blaz1rrr Před 7 měsíci

    Brave snake 13

  • @Desertfox170
    @Desertfox170 Před 7 měsíci

    All UN true channel 4 come on

  • @vardanmid6558
    @vardanmid6558 Před 7 měsíci

    Clever advocat 78

  • @user-dd1oq8ll6i
    @user-dd1oq8ll6i Před 7 měsíci

    Bestia linda 34

  • @NoziFoodBloger
    @NoziFoodBloger Před 7 měsíci

    Strong baby 65

  • @tanyashcherbakova9151
    @tanyashcherbakova9151 Před 7 měsíci

    Dry bear 36

  • @artstrology
    @artstrology Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wealth to the weak minded always elevates them in their own minds above the law. It is dangerous to birds AND people.

  • @Leon99912
    @Leon99912 Před 7 měsíci

    There is a place where shooting and conservation can and does coexist.
    The typecasts that the only people who want to protect birds of prey are hippies driving ex-royal mail vans with one green door and people who shoot are all rich toffs driving £100k 4X4s is clearly garbage, posted by those with no real understanding.
    I got into a conversation with a gamekeeper managing land I was staying on, where I asked him the species of a bird of prey I was seeing throughout the day. He provided me with in-depth detail and description of the birds I would have seen, including golden and white tailed eagle, Osprey, Harris Hawks and Buzzards, where he spoke with real passion about particular returning pairs of birds. I commented that they must treat his game birds like McDonalds, to which he just shrugged his shoulders and said that they simply expect to lose a percentage and account for that, but when guests come to shoot, all of the other things they see in between shooting adds to the day and ultimately the experience, which for him means good reputation and ultimately business.
    Some people eat meat, some people don’t. Some people could kill what they eat, some people couldn’t.
    You can’t typecast one as a murdering psychopath and the other a tree hugging extremist.
    I couldn’t have labelled that gentleman I spoke to as one of either gamekeeper or conservationist, as he was clearly both.
    I probably speak for the vast majority of both anti and pro shooting sides, when people break the law, absolutely drag them through the courts and make them pay.
    But they shouldn’t be used as a weapon to drive an agenda on either side.

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před 7 měsíci

      Coming from the land,
      it is good to see a comment full of CommonZense!

  • @buckodonnghaile4309
    @buckodonnghaile4309 Před 7 měsíci

    Birds arent real.

  • @yetidodger6650
    @yetidodger6650 Před 7 měsíci

    they poisoned a sea eagle in Arundel.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Mind your betters. The law does not apply to them, only the rabble.

  • @troutbumandsam5394
    @troutbumandsam5394 Před 7 měsíci

    Killing birds or any animal for "sport" should be illegal, end of story//troutbumandsam

  • @sandrathompson1277
    @sandrathompson1277 Před 7 měsíci

    This is why I do not eat animals or birds…

  • @tastypymp1287
    @tastypymp1287 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Linked to immigrants more like.

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I just can’t trust a word that comes out of an RSPB representative’s mouth anymore which is why I can’t contribute to their cause.

    • @zetectic7968
      @zetectic7968 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I see you have a troll account so why should we trust you.

    • @markchester7584
      @markchester7584 Před 7 měsíci

      @@zetectic7968 I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything so you can take my comments or leave them. Your choice.

  • @paddydoyle4234
    @paddydoyle4234 Před 7 měsíci +1

    A bird travelled 3km every day to hunt on a neighbouring game estate, tells you all you need to know about the state of the nature reserves. No food present so the bird travels to somewhere there is, no doubt directly preying on grouse chicks.
    Look at what happened to langholm moor if you want to see what happens to an estate that goes from one managed for shooting, to one ran by societies like the RSPB.
    Hen harriers and sea eagles are found worldwide, red grouse are only present in the UK and Ireland, so they should get priority.

    • @skrich9690
      @skrich9690 Před 7 měsíci +3

      So we give priority to breeding a bird that will subsequently be shot in large numbers??

    • @paddydoyle4234
      @paddydoyle4234 Před 7 měsíci

      @@skrich9690 the reason they are able to be shot in large numbers is because of the management of there habitat.
      How much money will hen harriers bring to the economy?

  • @bradjohnson8750
    @bradjohnson8750 Před 7 měsíci

    Who cares?

  • @borisfargo1290
    @borisfargo1290 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Rspb catch birds of prey with snares on moors to check their tags so all it takes is one bent memeber of staff to try and make shooting look bad

  • @brianeke2586
    @brianeke2586 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The same old rhetoric by RSPB. 🤦‍♂️

  • @mikes8917
    @mikes8917 Před 7 měsíci +2

    RSPB is a political campaigning organisation, these are accusations with no evidence. If you have evidence take the game keepers to court or you are making slanderous comments.

    • @ingni123456
      @ingni123456 Před 7 měsíci +9

      What accusations? They're just stating the evidence and noting the trends. Is tracking data and two poisoned birds on the same estate not evidence?
      It sounds like you're having an emotional reaction to very reasonable people doing their job and trying to uphold the nature and laws of our country.

    • @davidlamb7524
      @davidlamb7524 Před 7 měsíci

      The evidence is shot and poisoned birds and where they were found
      The police investigation needs to be more thorough.

    • @zetectic7968
      @zetectic7968 Před 7 měsíci

      Lies! I see you have a troll account.
      Look at the data plenty of populations have not recovered in areas around shooting estates & birds are found shot or poisoned in close proximity. There have been prosecutions because of unsafe storage of poison kept to "kill crows". It is an awful of of coincidences.