Reina Tips and Tricks TEKKEN 8
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
00:27 Regenerating Heat with Unsoku
00:45 Hellsweep can be PLUS on hit
01:12 Tsunami Kick can also be PLUS
01:37 Cancelling Sentai after 1,1,2
02:06 f+4 properties
02:41 f,f+2 guaranteed follow-up
03:02 2~1 as a punisher
03:40 Reina's PERFECT electric
04:06 Unlisted Taunt
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00:00 Intro
00:27 Regenerating Heat with Unsoku
00:45 Hellsweep can be PLUS on hit
01:12 Tsunami Kick can also be PLUS
01:37 Cancelling Sentai after 1,1,2
02:06 f+4 properties
02:41 f,f+2 guaranteed follow-up
03:02 2~1 as a punisher
03:40 Reina's PERFECT electric
04:06 Unlisted Taunt
There's a just frame blue spark version of the [2~1]
Saw Myk do it on stream yesterday. Not sure what all it changes except it does more damage
so whats the benefit of trying to perfect electric at all?
@@FusionCometif something is -13 on your block you get a full launch punish, but its probably the hardest thing to do in tekken
@@scrubtastic13 It only deals more damage. The requirement to get the bluespark on that move is still a mistery for me. I'll lab it further in the future
Thanks man, this is really insightful, and I agree I got more by checking out the notes on the different possiblities and cancels she's got on various strings and whatnot while going through her movelist.
That perfect EWGF input bout to change my life
Fr fr
Reina -> perfect Electric Wind GirlFriend confirmed 😂
Same
What do you mean?
I've never managed to make it work. I have input lag on my controller, so I have to do f, d+2,df weirdly enough and I get it 50% of the time at best no matter how long I train.
I played other reinas that I couldn't see their ewgf coming. Mine is obvious, you'll see it coming so that sucks. I might stop playing her altogether.
I’m so late but thank you for showing inputs individually and then showing. I’m still a beginner with Reina and needed more moves to learn to get better.
Thanks for mentioning the pewgf, I cant find any other mention of it online. Potentially big implications for combo damage and punishes. Such a complicated character, its going to be interesting to see what people come up with soon.
It's so cool to see that they even implemented Auger into Reina's moveset even without listing it in the move list
Thank you for showing us her unlisted taunt I had no idea
As always, outstanding work, thank you so much 🤩
great tips! looking forward to more reina tech
Not only was this video entertaining but also helpful thank you!
Thanks for the insight!
Again, thanks for your great work !
She is a brutal character in terms of difficulty but when you start flowing with her it’s just incredible the amount of freedom of creativity you have with her. Definitely worth the headache
Good editing! Thank you!
Thank you Applay, you're the best!!
I learned something new! Thank you!
Her Eletric kick is badass
Thank you🙏
Your reina looks so good!
Funny thing is i watch this video while i can't even afford device and the game lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Thank you, bro.
Sempre com um conteúdo de primeira!
Nice! 👍👍👍
Great content man, do you think you could do something for reina wall combos?
Yes, I'm working on a wall combo video at the moment.
0:27 my mind is in the gutter good lord that caught me off guard
Thanks
Irmão, que conteúdo de qualidade, na moral...
Fazia tempo que eu procurava um canal BR (sei que ele não é focado para BR, mas...) com vídeos na mesma qualidade do That Blasted Salami, mas nunca conseguia encontrar. Por coincidência, o youtube recomendou o teu canal pra mim e eu acabei tendo uma grata surpresa. E ontem mesmo, ele postou um vídeo e deu os créditos da edição e do roteiro pra você (quer mais coincidência que isso? haha). Tu já tinha participado de algum vídeo dele antes? Nunca parei pra perceber...
Enfim, continue com o excelente trabalho!!!!
E aê. Obrigado.
Sim, eu já faço os videos com o Arya do TBS há um tempo. Todos os Tekken Tips do canal dele foram editados e co-escritos por mim.
Hell yeah more Reina tech.
@justApplay can't wait for your google doc with all key moves and combo. Where can I find updates?
Right here! bit.ly/webtekken8library
That Heihachi taunt is siiiiick
Also, although mentioned in the movelist, [2~1] has an improved version that does 4 more damage but the timing is weird. They say "fast execution" but it's not, in fact it's never a matter of pressing fast, it's always a matter of pressing one button after the other with a precise timing that is, indeed, fast but not as fast as possible.
21 is empowered if you press 2 for 1 frame and then 1
Achei top, belo vídeo!
Heavens wraith one into sentai three is crazy i never knew that!
Hello, i found your channel from the tekken library season 4 guide. Is there a similar spreadsheet out for tekken 8 yet? thanks
Yes, right here!
bit.ly/webtekken8library
Amazing video. Are you planning to do a beginner's guide for her?
Possibly, yes
Can you share your Reina customization please? It’s awesome
if you do 2,1 really fast you get a 26 damage electric version instead of 22. it can also punish 12 frames from my testing
Thanks for the tips man. Any idea what the exact input is for the JF version of 2~1? I sometimes get to do it with sparks and higher damage but I have no idea how to exactly make it come out
That button needs further testing. Some stuff is also a mistery for me.
I've been able to do 2~1 at 1 frame for each input before, and I didn't get the blue spark. And I've got it from slower inputs.
During blockstun, it seems to be a lot easier to get it, tho.
It's a confusing button atm.
@@justApplay that Auger taunt is a good find btw. I've always thought Tekken 8's movelist is too spoonfeeding. It actually still kept the novelty of having unlisted moves
I managed to squeeze a d+4, 1+2 for 49 damage or 52 on JF which is very good
My most fav character of tekken i think i am gonna main her
im a content creator same as u but i really really love your work ggs
What a goated video
Be careful with ff2 into sentai, 8frame moves (notably yoshi and ling) will punish a ff2 into sentai. Yoshi's flash will lose to sen1,2 but lings has built in movement that evades all options
Hey App Play, in Tekken 7 you had the google drive excel sheet that summed up all the characters really well and was organized impeccably. Do you have one for Tekken 8? That is how I became a follower of yours.
It's still unfinished, but you can find it here
bit.ly/webtekken8library
@@justApplayyou are the absolute GOAT
Can you make a combo video for reina that would help a lot and would make a great video!
I already have one out, have you seen it yet? czcams.com/video/VF0-rfx8kkc/video.html
It explains her combo mechanics and gives you some easy/complex suggestions. Let me know if this helps you
One thing that worth mentioning is that the Frame Data on "Stances" are somehow misleading, for example here at 1:27 her Tsunami kick normally gets you -1 on hit, and if you press down she goes to a stance that says +6. Some people might think "oh hey stance is actually safer" while it actually is not. Because stances don't have hit box, so my suspicion is that the number +6 is actually starting from the last Tsunami kick hit, and since there is additional animation frames for her doing the stance, the actual frames advantage should be less than -1
Another example is 1:59 she gets +14 if you don't stance and +23 if you stance. You can easily tell that there is no way she has that much more frames advantage doing that spinning move, like I mean how can that be a whooping +23? It just can't be.
Frame advantage is calculated based on the moment the character becomes actionable, in this case when Reina can take action from her stance. I don't have the game in front of me at the moment but I'm pretty sure that +6 means your WRA 1 (i12) is going to smoke your opponent's jab.
Remember that most stances can be canceled much faster than the total duration of the animation. If you take a look at any time she does SEN 3 in this vid, barely any of the actual Sentai animation needs to play before she can start the kick
@@ArkRiley yeah I have the game infront of me. I tested this and it does. Her 1,3 and her 1+2 and 2 smoke jabs. So essentailly if you are holding down that +1 frame advantage they have gets overridden too a -6 or what ever so if they mashed 1. it wont start upuntil after that 6 frames.
Very helpful. One thing I was wondering is about Unsoku stance, when she is moving does she evade attacks automatically or parry?
It the movelist it says it has punch parry properties, but while testing it, I couldn't get it to parry a single time.
It can dodge some attacks, but not realibly and it takes a bit of time to be able to block in stance, so I think this is best used mid range if you are waiting the opponent to go in.
@@justApplay OK thx
It’s towards the start that it parries, similar to her wind step parry.
@@theelusivememe1772 watch TMM Reina Guide he have showed it.
@@justApplay I could get a parry while moving down or up, but that was just messing around so I don't know about the timing and if back is different. Towards the start of the move.
Has there been any confirmation or word on whether Reina not being able to wavedash from full/far-mid screen is a bug? None of the other Mishima-style characters' wavedash acts like hers does at fullscreen. Admittedly I'm very much still in the learning stages with her, but getting back in after knocking someone back at the end of a combo is a bit awkward when you can only do a single wavedash.
Heya~!
1. appreciate the tips
2. I almost never say this because I'm really picky and critical when it comes to fashion, but you've got a damn nice custom. It is actually extremely pretty and I *really* like it. I love how the colours play off of each other. Blue/orange is a really slept on colour relationship, but it just looks so good in the right context and I really think you've nailed it here.
How did you get that cold for reina
how do you activate the heat without that initial kick?
Hey i got a question. Is Sentai 1+2 not good in neutral at all? It leads in the wrath stance but i feel like my opponents can always just jab me out, even when using wrath stance's armor move. Is there a way to not go into wrath from sentai 1+2? Or anything else to add?
sentai 1+2 always goes into HW, says you're -6 but startups from stance/ delay till you can block even with cd cancel make it punishable on block, so it's pretty risky.
@@leemoi7954 Yeah that's what i've been experiencing, doesn't feel like doing 1+2 from sentai is very beneficial at all. It's a mid, but we got sentai 2.
i'm in practice mode and i see how hellsweep into heaven's wrath is plus. But when i try the same thing with the tsunami kick i'm minus ten whether i cancel into heaven's wrath or not. Did that get patched?
Are you doing the Tsunami Kick on hit? If they stand block the Tsunami Kick, you are always unsafe
There is another unlisted move, which is u2, 15f high punch, does 17 damage, +9 on hit, -12 on block, have no idea why it's there, but there you go. It can also break walls hilariously enough.
That's an universal move, and not unique to Reina. It's been in the game for a very long time and never has an utility. It sucks getting it as a missinput 'cause its punishable on block. lol
Would you recommend reina for someone who mained kazumi in t7?
Only if you enjoy Mishimas as well.
For a simpler poking character, I think Jun fits better.
@@justApplay Thank you, that's more of what i'm looking for. A simple character based on fundamentals
@@mettalpotatisenJun or Asuka, they both use the same style but they have key differences of course. Figured you'd like another similar option
Do you have any EWGF tips for someone who picked up a Mishima for the first time?
Focus on pressing 2 at the same time as ur df input. Most of the time ppl press the f,df input before pressing 2 which makes it a wgf without electric. Focus ur brain on pressing 2 and try to forget abt d,df
Work on getting at least the uppercut correctly instead of other accidental inputs. With time you start working on doing the electric and finding the correct timing for it.
Getting electric consistently takes time, so start using it in situations that are easier to have control over it, like for block punishment and later as a keepout attack. Using it for whiff punishment and pressure is more difficult, so use other tools for those purposes at first.
Learning to EWGF will take some time, I been playing Tekken since T4 but didn't actually take it serious and start improving until Tekken 7 around mid way through the last season.
Since then I have only managed to consistently do 2 or 3 EWGFs, so don't beat yourself up when you find yourself frustrated on only being able to do 1 or 2 EWGFs until you finally get how to consistently do 3 and more.
In general you'll want to be able to at least do 2 EWGFs in combos, even pros generally use only 2 and if confident enough they'll go for 3. Now if you're legendary they go for like 4 or 5😂
Her [2,1] 11frame knocks down to guaranteed db22 or ff2 to sentai.
Can you explain why the Electric is easier to achieve (always guaranteed) in Heat mode? Like even if your timing might seem off, you still perform an Electric.
It feels so weird but I can chain those Electric's in Heat mode.
That's just one of her Heat mechanics. During it, electrics don't require perfect input, but will use heat meter if you do the simple input
Applay vc cria roteiro pro video ?
Sim. Apesar de que esses do Tekken 8, eu só abri o jogo e saí falando. Mas pra maioria dos videos anteriores, sim.
@@justApplay muito top mano, eu tentei fazer uma vez mas eu sempre me embolo falando kk
Do you have any tips on being more consistent with the ewgf?
It's just a matter of practicing and time. There's no trick. I'm going to make a video on how to practice it soon, though.
ight bet, look forward to it@@justApplay
Thanks a lot 🫡🫡
Hello, I tried the perfect ewgf on a ps5 controller and it doesn't do the electric most times. Fwd neutral df 2 . Am I doing something wrong. Advice pleass
You'll need to turn your input display in training mode on in order to diagnose the real problem, but 9/10 times the problem is that you're not pressing the 2 button fast enough. You need to press it a frame or two faster than what it *feels* like should work.
Turn on the input reader and look for the DF arrow on your WGF. If there's any time at all between you pressing DF and 2, you don't get the electric.
you're helping alot man thanks! a question though, whats the input for the follow up after F4 or 2,1? like at 2:12 for example
For the knockdown I did f,n,d,df+3 (her War God Kick)
@@justApplay alright thank you man
@@justApplaydo you know is d4, 1 just frame is true for some of those knock downs?
@@snowio2592I set my practice dummy to sideroll on the ground, and as far as I can tell D4,1 isn't guaranteed in those situations. Only the D4 is guaranteed to hit I think.
I’m trying to learn Reina as my main (I’m a noob) currently and I got matched with an azucena on quick play that was doing this nutty juggle combo that took half my health on hit confirm, so basically if she did it twice the round was over. I kept trying to find a move that would give me positive frames against her, but obviously she beat me every time I tried that, I ended up having to block and wait my turn, which I guess is what you have to do, but I’d love to see some stuff about how to respond to stuff like that when you do read it, and also maybe some stuff on Reina’s juggle combo options and good set ups? If anyone has recommendations that would be great, currently I’m seeing a lot of people play azucena and she is super hard to read with a ton of mix ups between low and highs
Is the perfect ewgf suppose to be harder? I swear it easier for me to do than the regular one which is a good thing I suppose
I'm feeling the same way about it. Not sure if they made any changes to that.
@justApplay I see, another thing, it not list in the move list, but from her df 3 wind God step, what is the timing to input 2 to get an electric out? I have done it so randomly.
tekken newb here, what do you mean it's not practical to punish the hopkick with the perfect electric? does she have a better way to punish it?
It's a very difficult job to punish -13 with EWGF. It's not impossible, but very hard to as a consistent option.
For -13 she can use 2,2,1 or df+1,2 as reliable options
@@justApplay got it, cheers
Essa roupa dela me lembra a kazumi :(
Whenever I do her electric, it visually doesn’t look the same as the one shown in this vid….unless I’m in heat mode I wonder why
Are you sure you are doing an electric and not the Wind God Fist input?
The electric version requires a precise input.
What does taunt even do to benefit you? Like is it a counter or something?
No. It just may or may not piss your opponent off. lol
@@justApplay Ah fun
Which controller button is the star ?
The star is neutral (no directional input)
I can't do the heihachi thing, I'm holding taint...
Hold down and then press the taunt input
How potent do u think she will be once they fix her not being able to break out of grapple when using forward?
I don't think that's a bug. Unfortunately parries lose to grabs, and tapping forward does the mistep parry. Gotta be careful when pressing it.
Power wise, I think she will be just fine.
@@justApplay imo that weakens her pressure with wavu tremendously
Can anyone explain why reina cant wavedash normally like other mishimas, unless at closer proximity to opponent?
I don't know the explanation to why, but I just recently learned her wavedash works just like in Tekken Tag 1. Interesting, but it sucks we can't lol
@@justApplay i see, glad to know it wasn't just me lol thanks
Ondeko has a stronger version but i cant even do it 😅
what is her wall combo if wall splat?
Either df+1,1 into 1+2
Or jab into d+4,1+2 stomp
Yes yes but the notation how do you made it?😂 which program you use
Photoshop and I googled the images I edited
@@justApplay i use Photoshop too but how do you insert the buttons for combo notations? There is a program or something?
@@EraseTimeI'm confused on exactly what you're asking but I will try and explain it more simply on what they said.
They said they used Google to search up the boxed notations from the game itself and then used photo shop to put it in the video.
@SOUL_KROMANCER well let me explain to you in baby words so your small brain can understand, when you are making a combo video you just can't rip off images from Google, that's because you need to create a sequence of button input plus text or icons, so you actually need a program and a method to do so, so my question is very simple how to insert notation in a video? I'm asking for the third time
@@EraseTime Lol being rude for no reason when I am just trying to help you ya jackass.
Why do you say the PEWGF is not practical? Or do you mean it specifically is not practical to punish a hop kick?
Yes, for punishment. In the neutral you can use that input just fine.
More like the execution requirement for it. It's optimal but not practical, esp in online. Try doing Kazuya's PEWGF and if you still can, Heihachi's OTGF as well and you'll understand why it's more either for optimum punish or optimum swag.
@zakutenakazumiya1516 I can actually ONLY do pewgfs consistently 😅 skipping the down input aligns way better for my brain and f,df+2 is very intuitive for me. I can barely do f,d,df+2 electrics like for example with Jin.
@@justApplay saying its not practical is a wrong word for that you should say its not consistent or reliable its very practical if you are a very high lvl player
@@justApplay
Hold on!
I actually think they made the buffer period more lenient this time.
I was practicing against Devil Jin's d3+4(along with throws, demon scraper and trying to react to db2[I didn't lol])and I landed electrics as a punish(-15) way more times in the 5 minutes than I would in 7.
Could be because of the vigorous training I was doing in 7 though... (And that 1 frame of neutral is significantly different than 2 or 3 frames of neutral)
😂 I hate myself for choosing this as my main these stances and shit are so confusing
Man, electrics got easier in this game but I still cant manage to do them online :( I wanna play her so bad but I feel like Im missing too much of her toolkit without electrics
just focus on df2 combos for now you can do a lot with basic wiff punishment
Reina is going to be a top tier tournament pick her kit is fking busted.
Meanwhile everyone else is saying shes lowtier
her lows are not that good. She has the same problem as heihachi
I think her stance and her overall frame can be an advantage remember she's a smaller heihachi her frame can quite be deceiving but yeah agreed her weak point is her lows but they buffed it up she's is going to be OP.
@@qerzuk
That's a "we will see" because her stances are great the character overall is good but is it stronger than all the other options? I mean, if there's a character that's easier to execute on and is better then that will be a tournament favorite over Reina.
However if certain characters get nerfed she might become priority, the same thing happened to Kunimitsu. Only Ao really played it but given enough nerfs to the top tier characters she got ramped up since her kit was effectively untouched at the time and had fairly easy executions and a great stance game. People picked her up really quickly before they nerfed her.
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Rough start there
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"when she is in heat"
“plus 6” doesn’t change the situation just cause of a stance lmfaooo anything that would’ve hit at minus 1 will still hit just cause you’re in stance lmfaoooo
it does. because with out it the game makes the opponent +1 but if u hold stance it over rides it and make the opponent -6 meaning if they mashed lets say 1 it wont come out until 6 later. Meaning if you do lets say Heavens wrath 1,3 (12 frame move) it will beat a 10 frame jab Your heat engager 2 and your 1+2 (15 frame moves) will beat a jab as well. (I just tested this)
Can someone gameshare Tekken 8 with me on Xbox?
clearly her and many other characters aren't impacting the competitive integrity of the game
Gives us Victor stuff bum
I'll have you know his guide for the Tekken Library is almost finished, go check it out. But it will cost your soul
Broken character
Cringe character
Give the girl a break, she's new. lol
You did not call reina cringe when azucena and lucky chloe exist