What does it take to WIN in ONE TURN with Obeka, Splitter of Seconds?
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- What does it take to win in EDH with Obeka, Splitter of Seconds? How many upkeeps do we need and what are the best cards to help us win in Commander?
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What upkeep cards will YOU include in an Obeka brew? Let me know 👇
I am thinking of things that give me the initiative, actually.
Anowon the Ruin Sage
Blood Tyrant
Braids, Conjurer Adept
Armageddon Clock
Avarice Amulet
Darksteel Reactor
Braid of Fire
Creeping Dread
Demonic Pact (if you wanna run some Harmless Offering effects)
I could list more, but trust me, there are a LOT of cards that say "at the beginning of your upkeep." Even some Planeswalker Emblems would work. These are just some of my favored ones since they do everything Grixis usually does, but even meaner because of how Obeka works. Also, yes, I was already working on an Obeka deck, and these are some of the cards on my list! I left out the courts since you already mentioned those, lol.
Shaun, Father of Synths
Bria, Riptide Rogue
Dragon Master Outcast
As Foretold
Paradox Haze
Super fun wincon. Replicating Ring and Mechanized Production! There's a TON of fun synergy to this commander.
All of them
Cant wait to make a Suspend-Initiative-Monarch deck lol
Ancestral Visons and Wheel of Fate just got an upgrade.
Thats what I thought when I saw her too! Glad I'm not the only one lol
So far, my experience has been on focusing on just the initiative, as I had a dimir dungeon deck, and all I had to do was add red, and swap some cards in and out.
The initiative is super resilient, it is very hard to deal with if you are not playing an initiative deck yourself. It is not the fastest way to win with Obeka, however it can't be understated how good it is value wise. The first room gives you color fixing, the left side room after that buffs obeka, and so on, it just snowballs really effectively.
I have won almost every game since swapping the commander to her, and oh lord is it fun!
Heh, not the first time we've seen this. Obeka is going in my ninth doctor/Clara deck. Before obeka, most upkeeps I've ever gotten in a gold fishing turn with ninth doctor is 22.
I'd also point out that in edh, it's almost never required that you deal ALL the damage to your opponents.
With multiple upkeeps, court of vantress (and other "on upkeep make a copy" effects) becomes an amazing combo piece with any of the damage win cons.
I'm curious! How do you get 22 upkeeps with the Ninth Doctor? I was considering building them.
I'm also confused about this, because his ability specifically states "untaps during the untap step" so unless you tap him in untap phases, which players can't take priority during, it wouldn't net you any additional upkeeps except the first from the untap.
@@Cy8erTron1x Clones and triggered ability copies. Still 22 is more than sounds plausible.
@@mathewsloat6848 ahhhh, I didn't even think about duplicates lol, my apologies. Thats pretty sweet sounding, I can imagine a helm of the hosts or a mirror box/gallery strat now 😅
@@mathewsloat6848 @Cy8erTron1x 22 is unlikely to happen in a real game unless I'm REAL lucky on my draws and the table doesn't draw their interaction, hence the "gold fishing qualifier", but with that said, it goes like this:
Ninth Doctor
+ 2 of Sakashima Thousand Faces, Irenicus' Vile Duplication, Sakashima of a thousand faces, or spark double (I only run two of these in the deck)
+ Clara Oswald (doubles for all the clones as well)
+ Paradox Haze
+ Roaming Throne
+ standard upkeep
= 11 upkeeps
+ Sphinx of the Second Sun (or with MH3, Shadow of the second sun)
= 22
It's a huge boardstate, and if you do actually manage to assemble that board state, you are probably killing the table with drain effects, direct damage effects, or some huge board of tokens created in those upkeeps. While it might be nearly impossible to get that high in an actual game, getting to 5 - 8 upkeeps is actually pretty common
Such a cool card, thanks for making this
Great video, Solphim is another good damage booster!
I noticed you wrote monarch = 3/1 knight, but you actually get the knight regardless of monarchy.
Thanks again!
There's some interesting cards with cumulative upkeep like Braid of Fire, Psychic Vortex and Herald of Leshrac. As Foretold, Reality Strobe and Chronozoa are nice cards to be in the list, also. 😄
Hatred seems like a solid win con. Instant speed +×/0
Creeeping bloodsucker stayed in my version because having monarchy really increases the damage you take. The 3 hp can really help stabilize a longer game.
Especially if you plan on casting hatred 😂
Ah yes, paradox haze, the commander.
Loved the video and some great tech! I just started building a Kethek, crucible Goliath top deck mattters deck with cards like Sin Prodder and Protection Racquet tutorable with Kethek’s ability! WOTC are making commanders that forfill every creative deck design space. I’ll stick with Kethek for the challenge of no blue but I reckon after watching this I’ll eventually tweak it to Obeka 😅
I finally beat my friend’s Atraxa super friends deck with Obeka. It was so amazing! Still trying to make it even better, I’m really in love with this card.
Did you look at conditional win con cards? You could use Obeka to proc Mortal Combat/Revel in Riches/Darksteel Reactor/Triskaidekaphile/Battle of Wits immediately after you play it, for example.
This is a great list and looks a lot more rounded than the one I did. I went a little more all in on upkeeps and less interaction overall while still opting for Descent but alongside Lifegain in your upkeep from stuff like Vensers Journal, Ill-gotten Inheritance, Palace Siege, and Subversion (I wish I could track down a Creeping Bloodsucker and use trade for it). Another card I have been considering to go alongside Descent is Lich's Mirror as a way to reset if you get enough upkeeps to kill everyone all simultaneously with Descent.
would lifelink counters + move a lifelink counter on descent work well enough as well lol
amazing video
Looking forward to your other vids.
Can't wait for MH3, Clone Zone will be fun!
Thopter spy net work is good too. Make a thopter on your upkeep and get card draw when a thopter does combat damage. I've ended turns with enough thopters to make a small air force.
Nice deck ideas! Way to "Get Creative!" 😆
I can't wait to build this deck.
I got to play through a few more reps this weekend and it’s so good
Tavern brawler is a pretty nuts card in the deck, buffing Obeka a bunch and getting some card advantage, with something like world at war you also get 2 additional combats in one turn for 5 mana
Was thinking of using Tavern Brawler. Ty!
Civic saber is a card I'm very high on. Three extra power for 1 cmc+1 equip mana feels like a big deal when that translates into upkeeps.
Could definitely slip a 'Beseech The Mirror' in there to sac-cast a Court card from library unexpectedly....
one thing that works really well is the rings of X that each upkeep if its blue, red or black for each equipment obeka gets a counter
The red one is in my list!
Ring of Evos Isle is a decent balance of protection and upside too; (2) for Hexproof until end of turn isnt terrible if you have a Treasure producer, and given how Obeka works the rings effectively doubles her power every swing. Not *quite* as impactful as Valkas' Haste, but I plan to run both.
I am very excited for Obeka and all the upkeep cards that can be used!!!
Which are you most excited for?
@@CommanderMechanic As Foretold, The Tenth Doctor, anything with suspend, Replicating Ring
If I wasn't already building OG Obeka, and hadn't already bought the Phyrexian Dreadnought I would totally go for this build.
Brash Taunter and Fatal Attraction just seems funny. I'd call it "you should see the other guy"
I was thinking adding cards to copy obeka , then endless evil , virtue of persistence, followed footsteps, you can also win with curse of unbinding to mill yourself for a lab Maniac win , Tamiyos Journal to search for more stuff in your deck, the self mill route is definitely possible
I bought Obeka because it is very different commander and because i already have some of that cards. Maybe Court of Ire could be good too. If u play a multiplicator as Fiery Emancipation, only needs conect with Obeka an you can eliminate an opponent. 😊
Now i will Put the Elephant in the Room: Timesifter
As long as you keep winning once, you can win the game
Great video! How many effects do you think should be ran to ensure that obeka can get through? I’m trying to find that balance, I have around 8-9 right now.
Since the WHOLE POINT of the deck is to have Obeka connect, the more the better. 8-10 is realistic but you really only need 1 at a time so I wouldn't go more than 12 max. My list has only 6 UNBLOCKABLE affects, but a few more that give evasion like flying.
@@CommanderMechanic thank you for the insight! I’m excited to play this deck
@@kingpunis3492 Thassa was mentioned in the video as a great Upkeep trigger; Scrying before you proc all the draws/pseudo-draws from stuff like Dark Confidant is fantastic. But what else is fantastic is 2 mana Unblockable from an indestructible enchantment. I already use her in my Galea deck, and have stolen a lot of games from Scrying a land to the bottom to draw more gas, then immediately making an unstoppable swing.
@@researchinbreeder that is some great insight, I will be sure to make room for Thassa in my deck
Remember there are lots of lands that work as wel
Access tunnel
Black gate
Shizo
Rogues passage
Monsterous rage, etalis favour, last chance effects with original obeka aswel.
Master multiplied, mirror box teamed with blade of selves. Or classoc spark double.
Love it ❤️
I’ve put Obeka in with my Shrines deck. The honden shrines trigger during the upkeep, however if you have the other shrines that powers up the honden shrines a lot more
It’s a shame the new shrines trigger during the end step
@@CommanderMechanic it’s true.. but in a five color deck, sanctum of all and all of the hondens will wreck the table and put you in a far better position.
Alternate win cons seem strong since you can win after damage. Triskadekaphile with Phyrexian Arena seems good.
Darksteel Reactor is one folks have tossed out a lot too!
Question?
With how it is wordered is the upkeep proportionate to how much damage she deals or is it how many times she has dealt damage such as one hit equals 1 upkeep?
It's based on how much damage she deals. Deal 2 combat damage, get 2 additional upkeep steps. Deal 7 combat damage, get 7 additional upkeep steps. It's all because of the text "that many", which is looking for a variable amount you just generated the value of.
If it was based on how many times she dealt damage, it would just say you get "an additional upkeep step", because it's already triggering each time she deals damage.
Real men play Epic spells. (Enduring xxx from OG Kamigawa block)
Darksteel Reactor will absolutely be in my build!
Inevitability is excellent yes!
Mechanized Production on a manarock/boots.
7 upkeeps to instantly win the game
Obeka is a monolithic commander; nobody will let it connect, so counterspells are a must
Think Tank and Gate to the Aether would be interesting in this deck
No way you actually call her "Obeaka" like that.
I've seen so many videos where they all say "Oh-bee-ka". Maybe they also say say "I'm going to bed." as "I'm going to bee-d."
Court of Ire will be in my list.
single target tho 😩
@@CommanderMechanic Yeah, its not as good but 7 damage can take out the scariest opponent nice and fast. That said, If I build this I will be building Grixis Treasures and angling for that sweet sweet Revel in Riches win.
Endless ranks of the dead and scarab God.
If there were green identity, i would say just get the giant background, instantly make her a 10/10 xD
I would replace Court of Cunning with Court of Ire, since it seems your goal is to burn, not mill. Sure only hits 1 target BUT target means if you only land for 2 upkeeps or 3 that could be removal to live another turn, or if you have 1 opponent at much higher life total then the more focused heavy damage can knock them down into lethal for the shared damage.
But hey, that's the fun of making a deck, adjusting to suit personal tastes
One wins the game in less than 10 upkeeps, the other takes over 17 🤷♂️
Eldrazi Smash! is the real way to win in one turn :P
All of the fates reforged seiges are on my radar. Filtering, impulse draw, and a drain effect
“Clone zone”
JUND EM OUT!
Eldrazi smash!
Obeka Mill 😅
She’s also going in Tom Bomb
Just as long as you're aware that Sagas trigger after your draw step and NOT in your upkeep! And the draw step is NOT part of the upkeep!
@@CommanderMechanic ha yes you’re correct. Thank you. I was about to do something very stupid.
Eldrazi Smash
do-do found at 1:58.
Clone zone ifykyk.
Red combat tricks with dubbelstrike.
Temur battle rage 👀
@@CommanderMechanic yes and things like Barge In a red mana give trample and a buff
@@alexanderjosefsson4729 Gotta love the Two-handed Axe; A Double Strike trick Adventure, after which point it becomes an equippable damage doubler
Horizon Stone to float all those untaps
The untap isn’t actually included in the upkeep - the untap step is it’s own step!
I had a draft of my build that used Horizon Stone next to a Braid of Fire, but it ended up not being worthwhile since most of your expensive stuff is getting cheated to the field with cards like Sheoldred or Braids
JUND EM OUT
- *Wizard of the coast*
Clone zone!!
Heh do do work 😅
Shrines.
I think your forgetting about the equipment that gives myriad
The tokens die from legendary rule before they deal damage
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Who is Obeeeeka? I only know of Obeka
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four the answer is 4
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People are whining about Voja... This will be the new Public Enemy #1.
yeah but at least it doesn’t have ward 3
Voja is way easier to pull off, way more easy to protect, way faster to be broken, way more powerful in general. Just way less fun.
Nope. Just about the way people are mispronouncing card names.
Obeka dies to removal.
Shame I have to attack….
i always hear people say O Beh ka
real chads use Mana crypt
I’ve heard Oh Beak Uh before but I usually call her Oh Becky
I've never heard her name pronounced OBEEka. I've always heard OBECCA .
You can get the win faster using alternate win conditions like hellkite tyrant, revel in riches, or mechanized production. These wins will use equal or less upkeeps to win
Get Creative!
Get creative !
Get creative😂
I can't take this video seriously for every time you mispronounced her name. It's so annoying.
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I had a grixis ninth doctor- clara oswald deck. So obeka is just going to take that over as the commander.
Also, give creeping blood sucker infect.
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Get Creative!
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