How To Fix Useless Legendaries In PvZ Heroes

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  • čas přidán 23. 11. 2020
  • Part 2 of my "What I would change in PvZ Heroes" Stream
    I also Discuss Problematic Super Powers, Freeze Decks, etc.
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Komentáře • 597

  • @josefinaguzman5568
    @josefinaguzman5568 Před 3 lety +850

    So for starters i would make clocc zombie a legendary

  • @Yoshimongo
    @Yoshimongo Před 3 lety +379

    The only problem with Valk costing 5 is getting it from Bad Moon Rising which would really suck.

    • @ppthroat
      @ppthroat Před 2 lety +22

      bmr would be worse which would suck

    • @livecorp7484
      @livecorp7484 Před 2 lety +59

      valk should cost 3 and the buff should be +1 attack instead of +2

    • @itsphoenixtime
      @itsphoenixtime Před 2 lety +45

      @@Byruxt but… valk costs 4 right now

    • @Stormimi
      @Stormimi Před 2 lety +62

      @@Byruxt you don’t understand this conversation whatsoever do you

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo Před 2 lety +9

      @@Byruxt yeah that's the point

  • @harryboy4229
    @harryboy4229 Před 3 lety +372

    If you fix the card, A puzzle party will be different.

    • @skrunkly4573
      @skrunkly4573 Před 3 lety +88

      This happened to Cryo-Yeti

    • @adrapolska671
      @adrapolska671 Před 3 lety +94

      It dosent really matter. Don't get me wrong puzle party is fun and interesting but if they are going to completely change the stats of many cards they are gonna change or make new puzzle party's

    • @Gelo2000origami
      @Gelo2000origami Před 3 lety +59

      A lot of them are already impossible, specially the medulla nebula ones

    • @baltazargucci4757
      @baltazargucci4757 Před 3 lety +2

      Thats actually true

    • @Reginald_Ritmo
      @Reginald_Ritmo Před 3 lety +7

      Fix the puzzle party too.

  • @photoshopguy4457
    @photoshopguy4457 Před 3 lety +153

    The question is not how to make the legendaries better, the question is how we can revive this game

    • @volfgang1393
      @volfgang1393 Před 2 lety +26

      Bully ea into making new content and making it f2p with optional micro transactions. You literally can’t have fun without spending money

    • @deadassbird3763
      @deadassbird3763 Před 2 lety +3

      i feel the game has revived these days i see more views on videos and playing as zombie i get fast matches

    • @julioalvarado7548
      @julioalvarado7548 Před 2 lety +4

      I personally think we gonna see a case like pvz eclise eventually with comunity mods and actualizations, it could sound dumb but maybe.

    • @JosueIsak
      @JosueIsak Před 2 lety +3

      @@julioalvarado7548 it seems difficult, it requires multiplayer and well I don't think it's very fun to play against a bot

    • @mymusicplaylist2609
      @mymusicplaylist2609 Před rokem +6

      The game is dead ages ago, devs stopped updating this game

  • @orangehaze74
    @orangehaze74 Před rokem +67

    I also have a suggestion and a huge oversight:
    Chum Champion isn't just a "Destroy each plant with 3 or less ability" zombie, it also reduces the strength of plants. So i believe it should instead reduce plants strength by -3 and destroy ones with 0 strength. That way it can be used against stronger plants.

  • @badrunnaimal-faraby309
    @badrunnaimal-faraby309 Před 3 lety +73

    Winter squash: Freeze a zombie. When a frozen zombie gets damaged, destroy it.
    This roughly doubles the resource cost per removal and makes freeze a better trade facilitator instead of plain broken, especially with some AoE freeze on the plant side.
    It'll be a minion super stench that works with smarty's own multi-lane schtick and berry decks (maybe?)

    • @tuopi27
      @tuopi27 Před 2 lety +11

      this'd be cool with a theoretical ice shroom trick, being "freeze all zombies" or smth.
      it may also make winter melon viable, since it would fill both requirements to destroy a zombie.

    • @orangehaze74
      @orangehaze74 Před rokem +2

      Plus, this would also be scientifically accurate as frozen objects easily shatter.

    • @parkernark
      @parkernark Před rokem

      winter squash should just do like 4 damage

  • @giannisdoulgerakis
    @giannisdoulgerakis Před 3 lety +197

    I have one additional suggestion;
    When you play cornucopia it fills even the lanes you have put other plants, with team up plants

    • @businessman6629
      @businessman6629 Před 3 lety +6

      But if there’s a lane with a team up plant cornucopia will make any kind of plant in that lane

    • @giannisdoulgerakis
      @giannisdoulgerakis Před 3 lety +27

      @@businessman6629 of course it will do. I suggested the lanes with non team up plants. When is a team up plant in a lane cornucopia makes whatever plant it wants, just like right now in the game

    • @palmtreeman50yearsago87
      @palmtreeman50yearsago87 Před 2 lety +10

      Bro you just stole that idea (at 56:48 in the twitch chat) and got the credit
      Kinda lame

    • @themosterstoster7587
      @themosterstoster7587 Před 2 lety +2

      @@palmtreeman50yearsago87 on the case

    • @palmtreeman50yearsago87
      @palmtreeman50yearsago87 Před 2 lety +5

      @@themosterstoster7587 exactly bro, can’t stop me

  • @theyoshigang2009
    @theyoshigang2009 Před 2 lety +26

    Buff kangaroo to a 4 2/6 that has deadly and says: when hurt, bounce this back into your hand and this card costs 1 less for the rest of the game
    So that it could be a control card that gets better each turn.

  • @spqrmaster648
    @spqrmaster648 Před 2 lety +25

    You could Change Winter Squash in the way that he doesn't destroy a Frozen Zombie but Deals 5-6 Damage to a choosable card, if you freeze something.

  • @joseftollar6213
    @joseftollar6213 Před 3 lety +33

    interesting thing if you give chum champ gravestone, it would be the same turn as pogo (since that was nerfed to 5) so it would be a buff for neptuna deception decks. If plants play one big minion and its pogo then they cry, if they play many small minions and its champion they also cry.

    • @roxc4661
      @roxc4661 Před 2 lety +1

      THE GREAT ZUCCHINI

    • @ineophobe
      @ineophobe Před 2 lety +1

      how would it work with gravestone, does it lose the evolution ability?

    • @justinh9674
      @justinh9674 Před rokem +1

      @@ineophobe No they both happen without evolution

  • @youshouldntaddzombottothisdeck

    Oh yes sham costing 9 and zombot costing 3 would be ballanced

    • @Mekerda__
      @Mekerda__ Před 3 lety +14

      It’s funny watching Fry completely neuter plant removal so Gargs can become viable, when in reality it’s not the removal that’s the problem, it’s the fact that the game goes by so quickly that Gargs have no chance at being played. If you want to make Gargs viable, reduce their cost, or rework them to make their cost worth it. Killing all removal in this game does nothing but make the game even more unbalanced.

    • @jaison7757
      @jaison7757 Před 3 lety

      @@Mekerda__ control decks tho

    • @therealert5876
      @therealert5876 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Mekerda__ I don't think that gargs are too slow, the problem is definitely plant removal. In a Garg deck, you could still run the absolute best early game cards for turn 1-4 and be able to stall until turn 5. Gargs are not the problem, removal is.

    • @Orpheus_224
      @Orpheus_224 Před 3 lety

      @@therealert5876 you comment "FIRST" you dont get an opinion

    • @zomb_tron
      @zomb_tron Před 3 lety

      @@therealert5876 shameless

  • @jowey3593
    @jowey3593 Před 2 lety +11

    Pop cap should just give fry the game honestly

  • @theanalyzer1512
    @theanalyzer1512 Před 3 lety +61

    Octo zombie:
    1 cost 1/1 when destroyed: gain an octo zombie, for the rest of the game octo zombie costs 1 more and gets +1/+1
    Edit:
    8 cost, shuffle 3 other octo zombies. When destroyed: octo zombies cost 2 less

    • @yusufcoskun7914
      @yusufcoskun7914 Před 3 lety +7

      I've once thought about his ability for Dr. Spacetime, but it seems it fits better to octo zombie

    • @zackeatsbutteryt8856
      @zackeatsbutteryt8856 Před 3 lety +15

      Kinda like clique peas but diffrent

    • @justforlawlsandtrolls
      @justforlawlsandtrolls Před 3 lety +6

      No it doesn't really work, because it's still really underpowered. Maybe 1 cost 1/3?

    • @yusufcoskun7914
      @yusufcoskun7914 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justforlawlsandtrolls 1 health or 1 strength?

    • @nikkle1337
      @nikkle1337 Před 3 lety

      Too slow

  • @rafaelconstantino9736
    @rafaelconstantino9736 Před 3 lety +76

    Day 11 ... I think , ... I dont even know anymore: Fry, please bring the Self Cuke Starch Lord Deck for the Trolliness and you know what ?
    That video for a Christmas Special would be awesome.

  • @goldfroggy8043
    @goldfroggy8043 Před rokem +10

    I know I'm late, but I think primal pea shouldn't be able to bounce cards that cost 5-6 or more. This would mirror how it's not able to knock back bully zombies in PVZ2.

    • @kizaru7949
      @kizaru7949 Před 11 měsíci +3

      this is actually a really cool idea

    • @milkmonstrosity
      @milkmonstrosity Před 7 měsíci +3

      I feel like a really clever rework would be to reduce its damage to 1 but give it more health, maybe make it a 2 cost 1-3 or even 1-4. The reason for this is so that it can no longer bounce Zombies with Armored 1, as it fails to inflict any damage to them. It would instantly give it a niche as a cheaper, reusable, but flawed bouncing tool.

  • @goober4347
    @goober4347 Před 3 lety +13

    Well... since Fry asked, I would make chum champ a 3-cost 2/2, Gravestone, End of Turn: (weed spray with extra steps)

    • @mochaeunice2202
      @mochaeunice2202 Před 3 lety +1

      well that sounds like weed spray with extra steps!

  • @chickensquared140
    @chickensquared140 Před 2 lety +6

    Honestly making it so that plants have to have a counter to one specific card in every deck is revenge for Captain Cucumber and tricarrotops

  • @collinb0454
    @collinb0454 Před 3 lety +21

    Wintersquash idea: First time you freeze a zombie this turn, destroy it. (Same idea as ninja zombie, deals another 1 damage to all plants just once per turn) and make it a 4 cost 2/5

    • @idontgetthejoke4393
      @idontgetthejoke4393 Před 3 lety +2

      Lol no

    • @Shape1425
      @Shape1425 Před 3 lety

      Not Too Balanced

    • @milesandrews6711
      @milesandrews6711 Před 2 lety +2

      You're nerding a card that not only isn't op but belongs to a dead archetype
      Why?

    • @collinb0454
      @collinb0454 Před 2 lety +5

      @@milesandrews6711 A YEAR AGO. It was just an idea mate. Dont write me off lol

  • @bombyman84
    @bombyman84 Před 2 lety +8

    JUST REALIZED since in this meta Gargs are good, that means Supernova Garg is good, which also means Pineclone can be countered

  • @jowey3593
    @jowey3593 Před 2 lety +6

    Honestly there should just be a garg like wizard that gives all gargs untrickable

  • @thebigblackmenlegacy
    @thebigblackmenlegacy Před 3 lety +17

    The easiest and best way of countering winter squash is *removing all freeze cards from the game*

  • @mangostestes9371
    @mangostestes9371 Před rokem +4

    Octo Zombies could have so many potentials, such as imo having the ability to halve the attack (or -8) of a plant when played

  • @andrewflores8729
    @andrewflores8729 Před 2 lety +9

    I think winter squash being a 3 6, deal 3 damage to a zombie when it’s frozen would be a way to make it less annoying

    • @RatGoddessYT
      @RatGoddessYT Před 6 měsíci

      How about this idea instead?
      Winter Squash: 2/6 Costs 4. When a zombie is frozen, deal 4 damage to it, if it’s a gravestone, destroy it

  • @muddashucka9743
    @muddashucka9743 Před 2 lety +6

    Ra zombie should prevent the plant player from getting more sun each turn, and should also give the zombie player an extra brain each turn.

  • @vadim_65rus
    @vadim_65rus Před rokem +4

    I know I'm late to this, but it'd be really fun to rework octo based on hearthstone card Rattlegore - it's a 9 mana 9/9, but when it dies it resummons as 8/8, then 7/7 and up until 1/1. So to make octo playable, I'd keep him 8 mana 8/8 but when it dies, make him resummon as 6/6, then 4/4 and then 2/2

  • @ironwolf3427
    @ironwolf3427 Před 3 lety +17

    Make Swabbie a 100/100 Untrickable, Strikethrough, Frenzy that instantly wins the game when played. Also make it a legendary.

    • @beanpower233
      @beanpower233 Před 3 lety +2

      Are you implying our great swabbie isn’t good the way he is?????

    • @ironwolf3427
      @ironwolf3427 Před 3 lety +3

      @@beanpower233 No I would never. We should just make swabbie more powerful, if that is possible.

    • @beanpower233
      @beanpower233 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ironwolf3427 he is great already but this could be his true form o.o

    • @ironwolf3427
      @ironwolf3427 Před 3 lety +3

      @@beanpower233 He only uses 1% of his power otherwise he would break the game. @_@

    • @beanpower233
      @beanpower233 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ironwolf3427 oh crap I forgot about that the only reason he doesn’t is because weenie beanie is stoping him

  • @dantheman5405
    @dantheman5405 Před 3 lety +6

    Since the amphibious lane is already situational make it the first lane, and the heights be the last lane, since having a minion in the heights lane already makes it better. Make amphibious finishers good

  • @raynardchandrawangsa869
    @raynardchandrawangsa869 Před 3 lety +4

    I just realized that Octo Zombie is 8 8 8 because it's an octopus and octopus have 8 tentacles

  • @ajtheaj8266
    @ajtheaj8266 Před 3 lety +4

    I have an idea on how to fix octo zombie, keep it an 8 cost zombie, but when it is destroyed a place holder sushi or something with 8 health is played and at the start of next turn make an octo zombie where the sushi was but its attack lowers by -2 -1 every single time its brought back, it can still be bounced even in its sushi form costing 6 to put the sushi on the field.

  • @Pancakes_Master
    @Pancakes_Master Před 2 lety +5

    if shamrocket costed 6 nobody would use it

  • @michaelzhang7098
    @michaelzhang7098 Před 3 lety +4

    Primal Pea is actually broken, it’s a 2-2 that costs 1 sun that can literally bounce zombies as long as it can hit them.

  • @noahgloster8500
    @noahgloster8500 Před 3 lety +13

    Hey Fry I wonder if changing Octo Zombie to be like Astrocado where you gain an octopus and it has to survive a whole turn to turn back into an octo zombie would be good

    • @zomb_tron
      @zomb_tron Před 3 lety +4

      That's actually good! Maybe the squid has to survive a round?

    • @paulyeung2544
      @paulyeung2544 Před 3 lety +6

      It would make octo playable for both plants and zombies side, nice idea

    • @mikadosannoji553
      @mikadosannoji553 Před rokem +1

      imagine if you could sacrifice the octopus, using it on a plant so it gets blocked for a turn like he does in Pvz2, of course that wouldnt be a good idea to do but seems kinda fun

    • @alternatedenz
      @alternatedenz Před 10 měsíci +2

      or make it cost less whenever its bounced back into your hand, costing 5, then 4, then 2 and then 0.

  • @theteacat9756
    @theteacat9756 Před 2 lety +3

    About winter squash,I feel like it should do 3 damage to the frozen zombie instead of detroying it,ir lower its attack and health by 2

  • @yashpvora
    @yashpvora Před 3 lety +1

    Love the video ❤, wasn't well for sometime hope you are well great fixes hope there was editor in this game so we could have fun stuff. Awesome content ❤

  • @jackdempsey8697
    @jackdempsey8697 Před 3 lety +2

    Fry is my favorite CZcamsr and u can’t change my mind

  • @kispz8688
    @kispz8688 Před 2 lety +12

    6:00 To fix primal peashooter, I think you could fix it by making it so that if it hurts a zombie AND SURVIVES, bounce that zombie. That means you have to increase its health for it to work

    • @tuopi27
      @tuopi27 Před 2 lety

      no, definately not. that would only make it good with citron, carrotina and (kinda) green shadow, as increasing its health is not possible with smarty cards.

    • @justinh9674
      @justinh9674 Před rokem

      @@tuopi27 Extra-turns, team-up, environment,… there are many ways to do this

  • @ReeperKuruRuke
    @ReeperKuruRuke Před 3 lety +5

    I think Octo Zombie should leave Octo Pet(3/2 amphibious) behind when destroyed or bounced

  • @StarfruitGamer123
    @StarfruitGamer123 Před 3 lety +13

    Octo Zombie should be:
    8 Cost 8/8
    When destroyed, gain an Octo Zombie
    For the rest of the game, Octo Zombies cost 1 less.

    • @cube3749
      @cube3749 Před 3 lety +8

      No.

    • @rein9407
      @rein9407 Před 3 lety +4

      no

    • @warionumbahone7642
      @warionumbahone7642 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes

    • @Shape1425
      @Shape1425 Před 3 lety +1

      No, it Should Be Making Octopus Pet(From Neptuna Superpower) In Here And The Next Door Since Its Octo Zombie

    • @pineapplejuice6954
      @pineapplejuice6954 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shape1425 there’s no team up in zombies so you can’t put 2 zombies on 1 lane

  • @CillowIGuess
    @CillowIGuess Před 3 lety +4

    Imagine if Ice Shroom was here...
    You know how annoying the freeze decks will be

    • @rein9407
      @rein9407 Před 3 lety +1

      Ice Schroom
      8 Cost
      3/5
      Freeze every zombie

  • @kylearigo2300
    @kylearigo2300 Před 2 lety +5

    what if Ra zombie is a 4 cost 5 health, no attack and reduces 2 sun PER turn?

  • @onebigfluke8924
    @onebigfluke8924 Před 3 lety +4

    Gargs buff idea INSTEAD of nerfing all of control
    Gargologist should be 2 cost 1/4, but only make gargs cost 1 less.
    New card: Fake garg. 4 cost 3/7: All gargs become untrickable (beastly class imp/garg)

    • @beanpower233
      @beanpower233 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s a bit op because wing nut can be useful but it isn’t game changing exactly cause teleport but that is insane however I saw an idea on Reddit which was like 5 cost 3/5 mummified garg all gargs are untrickable it can be countered on 5 like wing nut is countered by fruit cake

    • @onebigfluke8924
      @onebigfluke8924 Před 3 lety

      @@beanpower233 maybe make it a 4 cost 3/4 because as a 5 cost it’d be way too slow and get countered easily

  • @miel307
    @miel307 Před 3 lety +4

    I would love it if control decks came back and would be meta like back in the day. It means that expensive decks would be back again, cuz most legendaries are expensive cards, it might earn popcap even more money cuz people wanna have more legendaries. Back in the day when only set 1 was available, all zombies went for control till shark and plankwalker, those were the good ol days. Stupid shamrocket, GK was actually weak against garg decks cuz he had no removal except for doomshroom

  • @sulaiman4031
    @sulaiman4031 Před 3 lety +2

    I hope the Devs do this fry is giving them the answers

  • @keylimepython641
    @keylimepython641 Před 3 lety +2

    @Fry Em Up Gaming Can you do what you think the tier list for this hypothetical meta would be.

  • @supremechaosbeing2696
    @supremechaosbeing2696 Před rokem +3

    I kind of wish winter squash was never a card. I think it'd be fine to have trigger happy freeze cards that freeze a lot of zombies, buffing snowdrop, but not killing them. Buff snowdrop and stop a zombie from attacking. It makes a big plant and controls their big zombies, but doesn't remove them. We could have a 6 cost freeze all zombies and without winter squash, it'd be balanced. I had an idea for a plant card that makes a frozen zombie do a bonus attack, but you draw 2 cards. That would be totally fine if winter squash didn't give freeze other more potent opportunities.

  • @kentakyw1376
    @kentakyw1376 Před 3 lety +25

    How about a card that makes the order of the lines reversed?
    It could be a reversed clock legendary maybe;)

    • @Xanthopathy
      @Xanthopathy Před 3 lety +5

      You wouldn't run it seriously

    • @ineophobe
      @ineophobe Před 2 lety +3

      they should make a legendary that flips the hero upside down and makes you win

  • @thatoneguy7738
    @thatoneguy7738 Před 11 měsíci +1

    There's a big problem with frenzy + untrickable zombies. It means there's only like 3 things that stop it. And chances are, two of those are the same class. Now about 7 Plant Heroes cannot answer it.

  • @sky2.213
    @sky2.213 Před 3 lety +19

    What about shamrocket being a 5-cost "destroy a zombie with 5 or more, conjure an event card"

    • @yusufcoskun7914
      @yusufcoskun7914 Před 3 lety +3

      Nice but very useless

    • @elmacho1336
      @elmacho1336 Před 3 lety +2

      @@yusufcoskun7914 only because of the other busted cards. If all plants big removal cards were nerfed, this would be great, because it gets rid of a problem and provides you with another card, even if that card is bad. It also makes zombie garg decks playable, but still is a counter to them. Unlike how shamrocket gives you removal, and you still have some sun left, it either takes out a card that they spent around 5 brains on, making it equal and fair, or takes out a card they buffed with other cards, and also gives you a card, giving you major card advantage. It would be great, as it's still viable removal and zombie garg decks become not worthless

    • @thansterproductions8258
      @thansterproductions8258 Před 3 lety

      We better delete it

    • @AbsoluteWarlord1
      @AbsoluteWarlord1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@thansterproductions8258 Shamrocket isnt op get that through ur frytard brain

    • @zaipollizamabdulmalek5822
      @zaipollizamabdulmalek5822 Před 3 lety

      @@AbsoluteWarlord1 it is op tbh

  • @jackthepokexpert4207
    @jackthepokexpert4207 Před 3 lety +3

    Someone should make an edit like what people have done to pvz 2 where you just make fry's edits

  • @theamazingtommo
    @theamazingtommo Před 2 měsíci

    also, is part 3 of this stream posted on youtube? If so, can u send me the link? I'm really invested in this!

  • @kingderp1235
    @kingderp1235 Před 3 lety +6

    Interesting, but ramp on the zombie’s side becomes unbelievably broken, imagine medulla on 3, brain vendor on 4 and than wannabe on that turn. I mean, what are the plant players going to do? Also whatever they play next turn can just be bonus attacked.

    • @rein9407
      @rein9407 Před 3 lety +2

      well... *goatify, mog, bounce, primal pea*

    • @blazingblaze250
      @blazingblaze250 Před 12 dny

      ⁠@@rein9407Amazing, Rose is the only hero

  • @sunisfr
    @sunisfr Před 3 lety +14

    *41:00** what about 5 cost 3/4 sport evoluton: all the sports zombies do a bonus attack?*

    • @Yoshimongo
      @Yoshimongo Před 3 lety +2

      That should just be a new card. Also bonus attacks are a brainy only thing.

    • @gabrielbaqueromejia8677
      @gabrielbaqueromejia8677 Před 3 lety

      no,because the sports zombies have frenesi,and the brainly class is the class what have bonus attacks

    • @gamean5873
      @gamean5873 Před 3 lety +6

      @MARIO ROULET his point is that instant bonus attacks are the brainy's class thing, you can't make a hearty cards that does thay because then what's the point of the classes?

    • @assassinshadow2800
      @assassinshadow2800 Před 3 lety

      so it's like agdget sciencetist with better stat?
      also, bonus attack is brainy feature

    • @d00mie32
      @d00mie32 Před 3 lety

      Make all sports have Frenzy would work-

  • @bingoviini
    @bingoviini Před 3 lety +5

    In short: remove all instakill cards

  • @StarfruitGamer123
    @StarfruitGamer123 Před 3 lety +5

    Primal Peashooter should be a 2-cost 2/3

  • @zarabatanaproductions9240

    octo could have "when destroyed, gain an octo and it costs 2 less. it keeps this ability" or maybe that would be too op. maybe cost 1 less? idk

  • @birdwatcher7220
    @birdwatcher7220 Před 3 lety +1

    I like your debate videos. Im watching them at evening. I like pvz heroes but i think it should be more fun. I like your theory. Keep it going

  • @quanghuynh3953
    @quanghuynh3953 Před 3 lety +11

    Just imagine how wonderful it is if Fry owned PvZH

    • @AbsoluteWarlord1
      @AbsoluteWarlord1 Před 3 lety +5

      It would be worse because his decisions are dogshit and nerfing control would just make aggro meta

  • @Yoshimongo
    @Yoshimongo Před 3 lety +4

    There should be a Gargantuar that gives all other Gargs Untrickable.

    • @d00mie32
      @d00mie32 Před 3 lety +3

      It that were added, it would cost atleast 6-8 brains

    • @isaacsimpson8098
      @isaacsimpson8098 Před 3 lety +6

      I mean, gargolith kinda does that. It just makes them vunerable to grave removal instead

  • @DatJaneDoeArchive
    @DatJaneDoeArchive Před 3 lety +5

    I dont think Trickster needs a nerf with the changes you mention tbh. By making hard removal more expensive you've made it harder to reduce the Tricksters price.

    • @AbsoluteWarlord1
      @AbsoluteWarlord1 Před 3 lety +1

      Hard removal isnt op so I think all these changes in general are useless, instead nerf the crazy class since it's just way to OP

    • @zaipollizamabdulmalek5822
      @zaipollizamabdulmalek5822 Před 3 lety

      @@AbsoluteWarlord1 that is stupid

    • @youssefbasem9266
      @youssefbasem9266 Před rokem

      @@AbsoluteWarlord1 have you ever seen ppl run garg decks no cause shamrocket it makes so the beastly class garbage so it def would be nice to see a nerf

  • @BadDrag12
    @BadDrag12 Před 3 lety +13

    Honestly fry. You should just start with the rocket science, doomshroom, rocket science, and fruitcake nerfs and just see where that goes with the meta. (Who knows what would happen with the meta then)

    • @bombyman84
      @bombyman84 Před 2 lety +2

      Check out his first video of this series

  • @flameyy7938
    @flameyy7938 Před 3 lety +2

    I think primal peashooter should be 3cost 2/1 so that nibble becomes useful and haunting ghost

  • @s.o.k.1393
    @s.o.k.1393 Před 5 měsíci

    Fry’s dream meta is zombies placing down one minion per turn and plants not being able to do anything about it

  • @cheese_productions
    @cheese_productions Před rokem +3

    Fun fact: wannabe hero can NEVER be with super brains except bad moon rising

    • @FryEmUpGaming
      @FryEmUpGaming  Před rokem +7

      burried treasure, triplication, garg feast conjured by mad chemist...

    • @erbinha_1234
      @erbinha_1234 Před rokem +2

      Gondola, eureka from thinking cap, leap (both the trick and environment), portal technician.

  • @maciejgrzyb634
    @maciejgrzyb634 Před 3 lety +1

    A bounce zombie meta concept:
    Trash garbage fireman zombie 4 cost 2/5 ability whenever a zombie is bounced it gains a permanent 1/1 stat upgrade and buff the fireboi by a temporary 1/1 stat upgrade (permanent upgrade is like when sync swimmer changes it's stats and temporary means when it buffs if it gets bounced it does not regain it's stats)
    First of all makes cards like kangaroo yetis kind of viable also is a counter to smarty class

  • @roxc4661
    @roxc4661 Před 2 lety +1

    Cheese cutter should be:
    2/4, Cost 3
    Frenzy. If this zombie hurts the plant hero, conjure any cards and it cost 1 less.

  • @jakedoesyoutube
    @jakedoesyoutube Před 9 měsíci +1

    We should get rid of most destroys and replace them with damage. Shamrocket doing 5 damage for 3 cost would be strong, but not "2 z-class now are pointless"

  • @bluebearninja-562
    @bluebearninja-562 Před rokem +2

    6 cost shamrocket is crazy

  • @Lillenmedmillen
    @Lillenmedmillen Před 3 lety +2

    I think they should nerf/buff fruit cake to (deals 7 damage, the plant conjures the card you just attacked but with double the sun cost) which gives you a reason to only use it on cards that cost more and that would make ramp more viable, not exactly sure yet but it seems like a good start
    Octopus’s should be buffed to (when this kills a plant, make an octoplant in that lane)
    octoplant 0 cost 0/5 animal plant, zombie attacks in this lane go right through the octoplant, this would basically mean that their lane is clogged and the zombie in that lane (often the octozombie) will continue to hit face (or the team up behind the octoplant) which makes octopussy such a viable late game card, and the only way for the plant to counter it would be to either move the octoplant or keep destroying the zombies that front the lane but since control would be nerfed this would give beastly heroes more opportunities for what they’re supposed to do, control and then put late game minions on the field

    • @candyfiregames693
      @candyfiregames693 Před 2 lety +1

      But then, what happens if you use Fruitcake on Cornucopia?Do you just get another one?

  • @jaison7757
    @jaison7757 Před 3 lety +1

    Fry I love your videos

  • @JMPGX
    @JMPGX Před 3 lety +1

    Fry out here solvin the worlds problems so we don't have to

  • @travisprescott9708
    @travisprescott9708 Před 3 lety +13

    My ideas to fix some Zombie legendaries
    Octo: gain an octo zombie and half it's cost( 4 cost, 2,1 then 0)
    Zombot : make it and 8/8 with gravestone
    Mondo: maybe make it a 5 cost 3/4 dino roar all pets get +1/1 and frenzy and remove it's destroy all plants here ability.
    Mechasaur: make it a 6 cost 5/5 and give it gravestone
    Pharaoh : 4/5 untrickable?
    Chum: 6 cost but it doesn't need evolution
    Battlecruiser: remove gravestone

    • @Mostillist
      @Mostillist Před 3 lety +2

      pharoh would hsve to be your heroes health cant below 5 and mechasaur and chum champion are way to slow at 6

    • @beanpower233
      @beanpower233 Před 3 lety +1

      But chum is still rubbish because it still doesn’t counter what the opponent plays on turn 6 like a repeat moss combo etc etc

    • @TheCoolSuperPea
      @TheCoolSuperPea Před 3 lety

      Chum: 6 cost, gravestone and doesn't need evolution

  • @jimmydams742
    @jimmydams742 Před 2 lety +2

    Surely if you gave wannabe hero untrickable winter squash can't kill it as it wouldn't be frozen

  • @goober4347
    @goober4347 Před 3 lety +8

    The new chum champ sounds like weed spray with extra steps

    • @nanabosootroll7733
      @nanabosootroll7733 Před 3 lety

      Make it a trick? Like the Helicopter imp

    • @louiscese
      @louiscese Před 3 lety

      no it’s btr

    • @louiscese
      @louiscese Před 3 lety

      becoz it reduces all by 1 den kills all with 2 Attack or less so it can kill plants with 3 attack

    • @goober4347
      @goober4347 Před 3 lety +1

      @@louiscese um.. weed spray is destroy all plants with 2 or less, Fry's idea is all plants get -1, destroy all plants with 1 or less.

    • @louiscese
      @louiscese Před 3 lety

      oh I didn’t hear him say the destroy all plants with 1 or less

  • @henrique_212
    @henrique_212 Před 2 lety +4

    Winter Squash should be 3/3

  • @sliverbysliver
    @sliverbysliver Před rokem +1

    Is there a Fry video on how I would save the game if I could? RIP PvZH, I stopped MTG and ran back do this for a bit

  • @traficsoldier7756
    @traficsoldier7756 Před 3 lety +1

    Octot zombie:
    When die spawn a octot zombie with -2/-2 from its original state

  • @roxc4661
    @roxc4661 Před 2 lety +2

    Doom - Shroom should be:
    Destroy all zombies. Cost 6

  • @Chuckyuyu
    @Chuckyuyu Před 3 lety +1

    Winter melon and winter squash? Is that a good combos

  • @ryanisntreal
    @ryanisntreal Před 3 lety +5

    I wish you talked about binary stars and how getting rid of gravestone for them would be a good buff

    • @rein9407
      @rein9407 Před 3 lety +5

      no

    • @MustacheOnMars9
      @MustacheOnMars9 Před 3 lety +2

      How would it be good? That means they are vulnerable to Plant Tricks making them have an even higher chance of being removed! If you going to go on about teleporting it in with Prof. Brainstorm, don't.

    • @ryanisntreal
      @ryanisntreal Před 3 lety +3

      @@MustacheOnMars9 lol just teleport them in a turn before you are going to mustache monument trickster

    • @rein9407
      @rein9407 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ryanisntreal so prof is the only crazy huh

    • @paulyeung2544
      @paulyeung2544 Před 3 lety

      I actually like this idea, not just for brainstorm trickster, it can also be used in dancing deck, headhunter on 4 and this on 5 or 6 along with a dancer?

  • @tbf2732
    @tbf2732 Před 3 lety +4

    lmao, imagine winter squash is on the zombie side plus brain freeze super

  • @goober4347
    @goober4347 Před 3 lety +1

    Here's a Bad Carrot to Not Bad Carrot Idea: Roots become good, buffing Lt. Carrotron.

  • @mr.sandals2704
    @mr.sandals2704 Před 3 lety

    This man will get my bounce deck killed!

  • @muddashucka9743
    @muddashucka9743 Před 2 lety +1

    Octo zombie
    Pet zombie
    8 cost
    8/8
    Frenzy
    When played, a plant loses its attack.
    When destroyed, gain an octo zombie.
    Premium - Legendary

  • @alechandro89
    @alechandro89 Před 3 lety +2

    Give kight Frenzy and untrickable keep it's armor 2 and IT will be good with sport's (buffing IT up easliy) and leap cuz it's hard to remove and then the station works very well :)

    • @alechandro89
      @alechandro89 Před 3 lety +1

      @Aiden Douglas mate , untricable 5/5 for 7 is still not op , honestly it's good enough to be used normally but not good enough to for most decks

  • @bombyman84
    @bombyman84 Před 2 lety +2

    Trickster can't be 11 or 12 cost because that just breaks leap...

  • @thewiseguy6254
    @thewiseguy6254 Před 3 lety +2

    I don't think Shamrocket should cost 6, I think the price of the card should determine what it removes. So! If you Shamrocket a normal garg, it'll cost 5 since the garg costs 5

  • @thecomentguy6557
    @thecomentguy6557 Před 3 lety +2

    For winter squash, just make iceberg lettuce cost 2.

    • @isaacsimpson8098
      @isaacsimpson8098 Před 3 lety +1

      2 cost, freeze a zombie conjure a leafy card

    • @bobuxman5806
      @bobuxman5806 Před 3 lety

      @@isaacsimpson8098draw a card is much better

  • @samma7207
    @samma7207 Před 3 lety +1

    Fry is making every card cost more

  • @5kartikbarge601
    @5kartikbarge601 Před 3 lety +1

    Even if zombot is gravestone plant can go repeat moss combo

  • @asaucezac8469
    @asaucezac8469 Před rokem +2

    Everyone knows ea would never put this much thought into their games

  • @atomicpotato18
    @atomicpotato18 Před 2 lety +1

    20:48 From other game mechanics like portal technician, wouldn't it automatically do a frenzy attack?
    What if you took your idea for chum, but don't have the "all plants get -1" ability, it just destroy all plants with 2 or less?

    • @justinh9674
      @justinh9674 Před rokem

      Then it would just be a more expensive weed spray

    • @atomicpotato18
      @atomicpotato18 Před rokem

      it basically already is

    • @justinh9674
      @justinh9674 Před rokem

      @@atomicpotato18 Yeah but it kills everything with 3 and not just 2.
      So it’s better and the price makes sense

    • @atomicpotato18
      @atomicpotato18 Před rokem

      @@justinh9674 you also need a sports zombie to evolve from

    • @justinh9674
      @justinh9674 Před rokem

      @@atomicpotato18 Yeah and that’s the main reason it sucks. Pay 5 and sacrifice a minion

  • @hanselfinn8946
    @hanselfinn8946 Před 3 lety +3

    How much time do we need for a fan of pvz heroes that have high skilled in coding that can make pvz heroes 2.0 like pvz2 eclipse (more fun) with better balancing

    • @MustacheOnMars9
      @MustacheOnMars9 Před 3 lety

      That did happen actually, it was called PVZHeroes Universe although it was struck down due to copyright and whatnot

    • @hanselfinn8946
      @hanselfinn8946 Před 3 lety

      @@MustacheOnMars9 oeh realy? That's cool can i still play it or kaybe just the single player

    • @MustacheOnMars9
      @MustacheOnMars9 Před 3 lety

      @@hanselfinn8946 I think the creators are reworking the game with uncopyrighted characters, but I dont think you can play the game at this current day and age.

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Před 2 lety

      @@MustacheOnMars9 You can! It's called Miniverse.

  • @BigMan-hd7gy
    @BigMan-hd7gy Před 3 lety +7

    Octo zombie: 8 cost 8/8
    When destroyed: this card goes back into your hand and conjures 2 octo-minions
    Octo-minion: 0 cost 3/2
    When destroyed: this card goes back into your hand and costs 1 more

    • @sulaiman4031
      @sulaiman4031 Před 3 lety +2

      Lol you made golem from clash of clans

    • @trivynium
      @trivynium Před 3 lety +1

      Very op, i think the mini octo should cost 2, get a 2/1 stats
      When destroyed: your octo zombie cost 1 less

    • @Aqib2
      @Aqib2 Před 3 lety

      Honestly I wonder why he doesn't throw octopi at the plants or spawn octopi.

  • @apichaikingkaewkantong757

    Useless legendary is “mixed up gravedigger”

  • @grookeygamez9185
    @grookeygamez9185 Před 3 lety

    Yay new upload

  • @diobrando7774
    @diobrando7774 Před 3 lety +2

    I would want removal nerfed or removed be there only a few ones

  • @monaejabradfords
    @monaejabradfords Před 3 lety +1

    When octozombie dies it should make an octo pet on both sides

  • @bakes1324
    @bakes1324 Před rokem

    Winter squash doesn’t do enough damage. You can wipe some big zombies off the field late game but then what are you doing next turn.

  • @ppthroat
    @ppthroat Před 2 lety +3

    in my opinion, wannabe hero should attack with it’s health

  • @sirpelico3496
    @sirpelico3496 Před rokem +1

    Three headed flytrap becomes broken