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  • @Counterpoints
    @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +131

    I appreciate the passion of people in the comments but also don’t soil yourself in rage.
    Astartes was created by Seyama Pedersen as a fan made animation. This is Games Workshops best work since Astartes set the bar so high. I should have been clearer. Some of y’all can calm down.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Lol nerd rage knows no bounds.

    • @rolexmongerthethird
      @rolexmongerthethird Před 9 měsíci +8

      They are followers of khorne! Explains the rage

    • @serronserron1320
      @serronserron1320 Před 9 měsíci +3

      The fan made projects were great and they did have good show actions but they either borrowed excellent dialogue from audiobooks or they had barely any audio at all. I'm not counting the parodies which so funny were not up to the standards that we've seen GW

    • @clockworklaharl9977
      @clockworklaharl9977 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Thank you for correcting yourself about Astarte's being GW's... I will personally NEVER recognize it as their work because of how they stole the freedom for fans to create basically free advertisement for the franchise... Though I do appreciate how they gave Seyama a job as an animator for them... But I do regret that it had to come at the threat of getting sued if he did not bend to their will... Because I saw it as either him having to delete the literal year(s) of hard solo work at making every little detail in the Astarte's episodes... including the music and sounds... that he did for absolutely free... or the threat of having a lawsuit hung over his head while still attending college (at that time iirc)... That being said... I do love how a lot of the better animations of GW's have his artistic touch here and there... It's been a drastic change in quality since he had joined.

    • @lordrevan571
      @lordrevan571 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yeah no thanks, GW is scum for what they did, educate yourself in the contracts they forced these people to sign and what would have happened had they not, might change your tone.

  • @lolbitbot4791
    @lolbitbot4791 Před 9 měsíci +350

    The salamander casually telling the human children he has 3 lungs and two hearts is funny af

    • @jumi9342
      @jumi9342 Před 9 měsíci +57

      And since he has only one heart and two lungs left he appears more human

    • @cryptosguns
      @cryptosguns Před 9 měsíci +29

      @@jumi9342 There's something beautifully poetic about this that naturally ties in with his empathy and care for normal humans

    • @waragainstmyself1159
      @waragainstmyself1159 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Well he is a superhero if you think about it.. plus not everyone makes it through the process so he is rare. Very rare.

    • @pplr1
      @pplr1 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Also that he tried to explain a bit technically before resorting to that it hurt a bit.

  • @TheRealKanye
    @TheRealKanye Před 9 měsíci +155

    The opening with the guardsmen hurts so much. Imagine being a Kriegsman, loyal and dedicated to the Emperor, striving for redemption with every breath. And due to some Necron warp-shenanigans, you no longer control your own body. And one of the angels of your God Emperor himself calls you a traitor.
    That sucks.

    • @TK4541
      @TK4541 Před 9 měsíci +22

      It was painful that they were trying to stop themselves, and that they were called heretic by the Salamander.

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 Před 8 měsíci +4

      ya I felt incredible pity to the guardsmen. I realize the Salamander didn't know but I feel like he was a bit harsh on them. Like he must've realized how weird they were acting.

    • @OfLanceTheLonginus
      @OfLanceTheLonginus Před 7 měsíci

      Cron's do not, and will never, fuck around

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 Před 3 měsíci

      Because space marines do not succumb to those shenanigans, they view those who became zombies as weak-willed and lacking in faith; thus, the salamander looked down on them.

  • @pistol0grip0pump
    @pistol0grip0pump Před 9 měsíci +526

    12 minutes in and I'm so happy to see GW has stepped things up, especially showing the human aspect of everything, and the kindness of the Salamanders towards civilians.

    • @brokenhalo2001
      @brokenhalo2001 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Took them long enough right. But after 3 years there still is not much animation content, considering they sold us the idea of WH+being animations on the regularr there is about a days worth.

    • @SordidusFellatio
      @SordidusFellatio Před 9 měsíci +13

      Well they better step their stuff up, Astartes is their standard now. By the way, I noticed that the animation have the exact same feel and vibe as Astartes does, noticeably in their walking animation and/or running, it has that “janky” look to it that Astartes had. So I’m guessing that the Astartes creator probably lead this project? Or somth?

    • @bryan...5047
      @bryan...5047 Před 9 měsíci +11

      @@SordidusFellatioSyama Pederson (singular creator of Astartes) probably have some pointers in these animations since GW has him now and silent as all hell still

    • @domokun845
      @domokun845 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Guessing they are having Syama work in a consulting role across multiple projects. That's the best way to bring the quality up.

    • @bryan...5047
      @bryan...5047 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@domokun845 Yep its probably the best way, but I hope he still does his own work for Astartes and at least have a say still.

  • @ieatmice751
    @ieatmice751 Před 9 měsíci +353

    What I like about the destroyers section is that when the palatine sister says “you are a cancer upon the Galaxy, I despise you!” She’s basically speaking for both of them. The necrons see organic life but especially humans as vermin infesting their tombworlds that need to be exterminated

    • @XD-sc4ix
      @XD-sc4ix Před 9 měsíci +27

      If only the destroyer responded back pointing out the irony of it

    • @erasalams61
      @erasalams61 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Thats the whole point he just came close face to face as she spoke

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Not all necrons. Destroyers specifically.

    • @kinosaga21
      @kinosaga21 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The Necron destroyers are not wrong

  • @doublep1980
    @doublep1980 Před 9 měsíci +99

    Sororitas to Necron: "You´re a cancer..."
    Necron: "You didn´t just say that?!"

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Před 9 měsíci +35

      She gave the Necron a PTSD flashback to a being a fleshy cancer patient like the rest of his race. XD

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@ICECAPPEDSKY she won tbh 😂 roasted tf outta that necron

    • @Technovore88
      @Technovore88 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@LewisB3217 If that's what winning looks like , I'd hate to see what you call losing.

    • @serronserron1320
      @serronserron1320 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Technovore88 Go back to the opening sequence of the first episode. Mind you those bodies can be reanimated for more experiments again and again and again.

    • @a8-94stalker
      @a8-94stalker Před 3 měsíci

      Necron: 01001110 01101111 00100000 01010101

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 Před 9 měsíci +186

    I actually really like the salamanders first interaction with the survivors. They are genuinely warm and kind but also still feel just distanced enough from humanity to still sell him as a space marine.

    • @WitcherGerd
      @WitcherGerd Před 9 měsíci +11

      Indeed, it could also be said that the fact his additional organs (3rd lung and 2nd heart) were disabled also makes him more human

    • @coolgamers2794
      @coolgamers2794 Před 9 měsíci

      Legion of the Damn is way better.

    • @MJRSA9404
      @MJRSA9404 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@coolgamers2794 ah yes. Not to be mistaken for the Legion of the Ocean

    • @MJRSA9404
      @MJRSA9404 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@coolgamers2794 also, pretty irrelevant comment

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 Před 9 měsíci

      @@coolgamers2794 like... Ok.... That's your take and I mean they do have a cool mystery element but like.... We's like our green fire boys. They have a bit more personality and I at least prefer the dragon knight look over the ghost rider but space marine look.

  • @kkpratt
    @kkpratt Před 9 měsíci +276

    I think Sakan's execution of the final Guardsman in the opening was an act of mercy. Showing the Salamanders' empathy and care for humans.

    • @Baboon-nk4wq
      @Baboon-nk4wq Před 9 měsíci +29

      Maybe, but I'm not sure. He had a knife and a bolter, but instead set him on fire.

    • @Towermonkey-sf4md
      @Towermonkey-sf4md Před 9 měsíci +32

      Partially yes it could assumed that’s the case but with the statement of “what treachery is this, or is this madness?” He would’ve assumed the guardsman to be a traitor plus he was unable to retrieve the gene seed from his brothers which would result in anger and Sakan’s instinct would to enact vengeance for this final slight against his brothers honor by dealing with the man he saw as a traitor in the manner the salamanders deal with all of man’s enemies, with fire.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Před 9 měsíci +14

      @@Baboon-nk4wqfire is a fitting way to finish him. Cleansing flame, wash away the xeno infection by burning him away. Could be seen as the ideal way.

    • @KimKarniol
      @KimKarniol Před 9 měsíci +15

      @@Towermonkey-sf4md I think it was more mercy as he was more clued in to what afflicted the Guardsmen as he left when the Krieger managed to squeeze out the words saying he was not in control. A mix of an act of mercy to a Guardsman that was genuinely incapable of stopping himself from attacking the Salamander.
      Initial confusion leading into frustration and anger over a belief that his brothers' legacies were forever lost to the cowardice of weak-willed Guardsmen deserters that quickly simmered and became more sympathetic after learning what it was, deciding instead to grant a faster death. A slow roast to rising flames in a wreck is a worse way to go than a promethium flamethrower to the face, which would be comparably instant. He granted the Emperor's mercy and a release to a still ever-loyal soul trapped within a body being forced to serve Xenos machinations.

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Před 9 měsíci +4

      He set him on fire that's still a painful way to die

  • @smolpp585
    @smolpp585 Před 9 měsíci +184

    M2 Animation the GOAT! for people who don't know, these guys did the Kill Team cinematic, Armouring of a Space Marine cinematic, Horus Heresy cinematic, 9th and 10th edition cinematics and also the Age of Sigmar cinematic. Hope GW keeps doing stuff with them because they've done a good job so far.

    • @iconicusensign9624
      @iconicusensign9624 Před 9 měsíci +14

      I also realized they also made the animations for the lego movies and even lego animated series.
      Wow. How far they really progressed over the years and im glad they are doing animations for us 40k fans.
      I hope they stick around and GW hires more animation studios or hell maybe genndy tartakovsky.

    • @alexander3314
      @alexander3314 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Absolutely agree. These guys are crazy good

  • @RiverBottomBoys.
    @RiverBottomBoys. Před 9 měsíci +443

    IMO, the salamanders are the best Chapter. Unwavering loyalty to humanity makes them some of the ONLY good guys in the 41st millennium.

    • @blueknight5754
      @blueknight5754 Před 9 měsíci +12

      I paint them often…good stuff.

    • @horsearcher6852
      @horsearcher6852 Před 9 měsíci +27

      until you are xenos XD

    • @simenskeide5634
      @simenskeide5634 Před 9 měsíci +32

      There is the Lamenters.

    • @standanddeliver2925
      @standanddeliver2925 Před 9 měsíci +15

      Space wolves, raven guard, many blood angels, ultramarines.

    • @hollow8136
      @hollow8136 Před 9 měsíci +14

      I'm going to be a bit pedantic here, but the only "Legions" in the 41st Millennium are the Chaos ones. The Salamanders are a First Founding "Chapter" not a Legion, specifically because the Imperium didn't want those anymore. Current day Chapter share some elements with their 30k counterparts, but they are essentially different entities in a lot of ways.
      Like the Dark Angels Chaper shares the name with the Dark Angels Legion. But is a VERY different beast with a different aesthetic, mentality, and culture far flung from what the Lion used to lead.

  • @tilted_axis9819
    @tilted_axis9819 Před 9 měsíci +92

    Really goes to show how durable an astartes is when he talks about multiple organs failing like it’s just a headache

    • @edgarcarlylesaraga96
      @edgarcarlylesaraga96 Před 8 měsíci +2

      True, although that crash shouldn't have killed the other salamanders.. vulkan's sons are durable as hell, and they have their power armor on.. that crash should have caused minimum injuries to them..

  • @Foffer1337
    @Foffer1337 Před 9 měsíci +48

    I love how fast Sa'kan moves when the Deathmark fires at him. I think its one of the first times since Astartes, Iv ever seen a space marine sprint like they are supposed to.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Yeah it was super cool, he took like 2 steps and was in cover 20 feet away, they are supposed to like leap-run at super high speeds

    • @vincentprime740
      @vincentprime740 Před 9 měsíci +5

      If you go watch death of hope trailer u will be amazed lol

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 Před 3 měsíci

      The ultramarine Sgt. Also moved very fast when he dodged an incoming Lazer fire in the 2nd episode.

  • @lokket9995
    @lokket9995 Před 9 měsíci +64

    Its a rare sight for angel to show his human features to a human. I hope we get to see a Lamenter one day.

    • @rm06c
      @rm06c Před 9 měsíci +8

      They'll use crayons to draw and animate the Lamenters 😭

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +5

      I think that’s why he’s doing it, to show he was/is human instead of some walking suit of armor that’s 7 feet tall, pretty cool detail, I don’t think other chapters would do that in a combat zone at least, the mission comes first generally

    • @coolgamers2794
      @coolgamers2794 Před 9 měsíci

      Legion of the Damned Chapter is far more better.

    • @rivenarchon333
      @rivenarchon333 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@LewisB3217Maybe, but there are a lot of SM models without helmets. I think they would, but for other reasons, not to put the people at ease.

    • @MyFaithShines
      @MyFaithShines Před 9 měsíci

      U need to play Space Marine

  • @adamg4336
    @adamg4336 Před 9 měsíci +47

    She had some balls to chat shit directly to a salamander

  • @Joni_Tarvainen
    @Joni_Tarvainen Před 9 měsíci +14

    I think it's so beautiful small detail, but when Sak'an speaks to the kids his humanity is mirrored with his injuries. He has one heart and two lungs, just like the ones he protects.

  • @RaixsOreh
    @RaixsOreh Před 9 měsíci +110

    13:47 Note: That is a palatine, not a Sister Superior. Palatines are the Equivalent to Lieutenants in the Sororitas. Sister Superiors lead a single squad Palatines are second in command to Canonesses who lead numerous squads

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +20

      How could you tell?

    • @RaixsOreh
      @RaixsOreh Před 9 měsíci +42

      @@Counterpoints the Halo on her Power Pack on her back. The Palatine Model on the table top is the only model with that style of halo (plus other armor details that indicate it's a Palatine Armor). it's not a big deal, unless you've looked at numerous sororitas models you wouldn't notice it.
      Edit: also their arsenal helps too. Palatines only have a Rosarius (the necklace she's holding), and a plasma pistol. Sister Superiors usually have bolters like her squad or another specialized gun alongside a melee weapon. Sister Danica in the show is a Sister Superior, she had a power sword in the 9th ed trailer and her Armor has the Inquisitorial letter "i" on her neck armor

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@RaixsOreh yeah the plasma pistol ladies lack of a melee weapon gives her away, they’re kinda like chaplains in my eyes, good eyes

    • @Nutellafuerst
      @Nutellafuerst Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@LewisB3217Palatines have power swords as their standard melee weapon, actually.

    • @Pihnes
      @Pihnes Před 9 měsíci +2

      Also, the holy relic she's carrying in her left hand.@@Counterpoints

  • @elijahlovejoy5438
    @elijahlovejoy5438 Před 9 měsíci +59

    Just a note for the end; "Astartes" isnt really a GW series. The credit goes to Syama Pedersen who made the whole thing himself.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +16

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

    • @benjamintherogue2421
      @benjamintherogue2421 Před 9 měsíci +11

      And killed by GW.

    • @tiagojohannes5920
      @tiagojohannes5920 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@benjamintherogue2421the hours it took to make its especially. . . Atleast like 700 since he did it alone

  • @dawidkaczmarek8639
    @dawidkaczmarek8639 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Thank heavens they hired blessed by the Emperor astartes guy. Dude DELIVERS

  • @Nostroman_Praetor
    @Nostroman_Praetor Před 9 měsíci +90

    Quick correction: I don't think Sa'kan is a sergent. I don't remember it being stated during the episode and its very possible he just isn't a sergent.

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yea, he doesn't have any markings either

    • @brianwalsh1339
      @brianwalsh1339 Před 9 měsíci +25

      So I just went on a bit of a search to back this up, and yeah you’re correct.
      However, unlike a chapter like the ultramarines, the only difference between a salamanders line marine and a salamanders sergeant is… a golden skull on the sergeant’s helmet.
      Which is a bit mildly infuriating.

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Před 9 měsíci

      @@brianwalsh1339 you would be surprised how many chapters barely show the difference lol

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +26

      I misremembered “brother” as “sergeant” when I was scripting unfortunately

    • @Nostroman_Praetor
      @Nostroman_Praetor Před 9 měsíci +15

      @@Counterpoints Honestly thats okay since he immedately follows his introduction by namedropping an Ultramarine Sergent, so its understandable where you might have fumbled

  • @MrYodaSusej
    @MrYodaSusej Před 9 měsíci +21

    The scene with the Salamander Sergeant where he shows that he is still human despite being basically a living god as a space marine is amazing. Dont know if anyone else caught this but since one of his hearts has failed along with one of his lungs, he now has just one heart and two lungs like every other "normal human" would have. Just a great overall scene for me. got me to feel some emotion and care about a character that at this point in the show I hardly know.

  • @reynard4823
    @reynard4823 Před 9 měsíci +24

    In the words of the crazy plane lady regarding that female guardsman "THAT MOFO ISNT REAL"

  • @Ultra_Sauce
    @Ultra_Sauce Před 9 měsíci +89

    Wish we can eventually get something this good for the Crimson Fists

    • @user-br4qp4pw2o
      @user-br4qp4pw2o Před 9 měsíci +4

      You have carried your burdon. Now its time to carry you
      (not sure if its correct)

  • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
    @MasterChiefNumberOnE Před 9 měsíci +34

    I hope that Space Marine 3 will be about fighting the Necrons. Battles like this, where even saving a few civilians feels like a victory and even fighting normal Necron warriors is a challenge.... I would be on fire for the game right away!

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Před 9 měsíci +4

      That might be a DLC for SM2

    • @bruticus1496
      @bruticus1496 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I can see that as a dark souls type game

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Or space Marine 2 I have a feeling fighting tyranids is going to get rather samey after a while

    • @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen
      @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Před 9 měsíci +3

      Space marine is a horde shooter through and through, not sure the Necrons would provide the type of gameplay the series is going for. It's a cool idea sure, but the mechanics would have to be altered to cater to it and it's better off being its own thing.

    • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
      @MasterChiefNumberOnE Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen I totally agree, but doesn't the horde aspect stop as soon as the Chaos Space Marines show up? At least that was the case in Space Marine 1, where you weren't fighting hordes of Orks then, but mostly just little groups of Chaos Space Marines (I think the largest number was 10 at a time, but never more than 10 if I remember correctly?). I don't know what it will be like with the Thousand Sons once they show up, but I bet...it will be just like Space Marine 1. AND Rubic Marines aren't any different than Necron-Warriors: Both are soulless robots XD

  • @russellblaik3414
    @russellblaik3414 Před 9 měsíci +30

    The dark skin and red eyes is not from the gene-seed of Vulkan but from the home world of the salamanders Nocturne's radiation. Too many people confuse this fact but Vulkan only changed that way after growing up on the planet, the locals of that planet are all that way from birth.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +6

      I’ve read opposite but I’ll research to make sure. Even in the episode they said it’s part of his genetic ascension

    • @russellblaik3414
      @russellblaik3414 Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@Counterpoints Its been more established in the 30k lore then the 40k lore but then again the change to the salamander chapter only happened from the 5th edition space marine codex. Before that the chapter was the same as other space marines with only mentions of the local populace of Nocturne being this way.
      It is possible that I have mistaken fan a theory to explain how the people of nocturne survived as they are constantly bombarded by the same solar radiation
      The statement in the episode is more likely an overall excuse to hide that it is a mutation from the greater Imperium given how they treat mutants

    • @rivenarchon333
      @rivenarchon333 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@russellblaik3414Or a retcon.
      What I don't understand is how a single planet can produce an entire chapter.

    • @russellblaik3414
      @russellblaik3414 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@rivenarchon333 The chapter is made over time with there home world planet by keeping replacement troops in reserve over time. most recruits are left on the planet still undergoing the procedure to become a space marine. As a space marine is near immortal and the chapter not being able to go over 1000 marines at one time a single planet can easily support it with recruits, if there is no possible way for the planet to have enough recruits from a single world then chapters can get there recruits from other systems. This is seen as a great honor and all fleet based chapters recruit in this way

    • @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen
      @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@rivenarchon333 Planets house billions of people, what is strange about them having enough to provide a thousand guys. You know there's tens of thousands of neophytes and aspirants just hanging out waiting to be quietly recruited in a way that makes it look like they're totally not going over the limit. A single town could provide an entire chapter of space marines.

  • @Diceboxx
    @Diceboxx Před 9 měsíci +31

    SoB was about to get the "Marine Malevolent" treatment for her attitude, thanks to the Deathmark she avoided it

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +5

      She’s getting a temporary stay on repentia service 😂

    • @ShiftnWolf72
      @ShiftnWolf72 Před 9 měsíci +5

      its possible in time she could see his point of view but that will get her in big trouble in the long run...the downside of blind, fanaticism.

    • @coolgamers2794
      @coolgamers2794 Před 9 měsíci +4

      This is why Sisters of Battle are trash. I'll take a squad of Catachan Devils over the zealot fanatical rampaging Sisters.

    • @rivenarchon333
      @rivenarchon333 Před 9 měsíci +7

      ​@@coolgamers2794bear in mind that in the previous episode, upon encountering a guardsman, her first instinct was to check if he was alright.
      She's only gone full murder hobo when it's apparent they've be been corrupted. Even her desire to kill the civilians makes sense, like, she isn't being malicious. Sisters as a whole are pretty compassionate towards other imperials.
      Catechan on the other hand are known for team killing officers just because they don't like being told what to do. But they have Straken, so...

    • @mcclein1
      @mcclein1 Před 9 měsíci

      i bet she was afected by that thing necrons have. she touched her eyebrow near that fugly scar.

  • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
    @MasterChiefNumberOnE Před 8 měsíci +4

    I love how the scene with the two Necron warriors feels so much like Terminator. You could just use two T-800s instead of the warriors and a resistance fighter instead of the guardsman and it would fit perfectly, just like you can do the opening scenes of the Terminator movies with Necron warriors instead of Skynet's robots.

  • @monkeygunner67000
    @monkeygunner67000 Před měsícem +1

    Stories like this is what makes warhammer 40k compelling. It seems like for the first time, GW edited something that echoes how I pictured this universe in my head

  • @jbp9653
    @jbp9653 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Seeing a Salamander live up to their name is always a pleasure. Happy that the animation is great as well

  • @thecowcanon
    @thecowcanon Před 9 měsíci +12

    Games workshop has nothing to do with Astartes, but I do agree that this is great and just what we all want/need!

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @Jason11190
    @Jason11190 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I love the Salamanders so much. They're every bit as badass as any of the other Chapters, but they're one of the very few Imperium facets that embodies the humanity they're supposed to be part of. And in a universe as dark and unforgiving as 40k, the compassion that the Salamanders show is genuinely beautiful.

  • @bjornthefellhanded5655
    @bjornthefellhanded5655 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love how tiny the unaugmented Humans look next to the Salamander

  • @tovarco
    @tovarco Před 4 měsíci +1

    The detail of the white part of the eye at 20:41.....amazing.

  • @dougjones3305
    @dougjones3305 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is the best representation of salamanders and just lore I have seen so far. This show is really, really great.

  • @jamilvints
    @jamilvints Před 9 měsíci +5

    This..this is worthy of a subscription for GW. Cant wait till more episodes and i hope this quality keeps up.

  • @stompyrobotguy4376
    @stompyrobotguy4376 Před 9 měsíci +5

    It took a couple years, but we're finally here, getting some QUALITY content. I'm going to actually sub to W+ when this series is over, so I can binge it.

  • @andypae
    @andypae Před 9 měsíci +2

    Sally: "Are you going to put me into a self-defence situation?"

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 Před 8 měsíci +1

    "Are you here to save us?"
    ....
    "What are your names little ones?"
    Savage.

  • @Clayton_Stewart
    @Clayton_Stewart Před měsícem

    I love how fast Sak'an's attitude towards the Sister changes when she threatens the civilians. Especially when questioning her "unworthy" comment. If she wasn't a Sister, I have no doubt he'd have broken a rib for daring to even give the survivors a dirty look

  • @samikami3206
    @samikami3206 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thank you. I really appreciate the brakdowns just because they help me understand a lot of the stuff. I'm a guard main, and know little to nothing about the Sisters and the Astartes.

  • @blueknight5754
    @blueknight5754 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I 100 percent agree with your assessment. Games FINALLY put it all together! Thank you for the BEST explanation of all of these episodes. I come here first for episode breakdowns.

  • @PeterPan-cy7oy
    @PeterPan-cy7oy Před 4 měsíci

    so cool we read so often how an astartes looks through his helmet and now we can see it. awesome

  • @shudogg1rs
    @shudogg1rs Před 9 měsíci +1

    Even though more often than not I have already watched the episodes you review. However I always look forward to your insights / break downs. Thanks for all you do!

  • @Jamespetersenwa
    @Jamespetersenwa Před 5 měsíci

    I like that they found a way to show that the Salamander's still have a conscious and empathy by showing his mercy with the corrupted Gaurdsman,

  • @Tfbtrav
    @Tfbtrav Před 9 měsíci +3

    I think pariah nexus is horribly underrated. I show it to friends who have no understanding of WH and they love it. If the animation budget was higher, this would rival with some of the top 3d animated shows and films of all time. I think we should all take time to appreciate the studios hard work on this series, it's well deserved!

  • @RazorbackX99
    @RazorbackX99 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I absolutely love that they went with the Salamander chapter for these...

  • @Zakanuva
    @Zakanuva Před 9 měsíci

    Really cool of *Hawkins & Company* to sponsor you! I perused their catalog and found quite a few that I really liked, plus American-made leather will _always_ be based!

  • @IronRAVENxvx
    @IronRAVENxvx Před 8 měsíci

    For a moment there, I was expecting the sister to pull off a summary execution behind the SM's back lol. Can't wait for the third!

  • @pistol0grip0pump
    @pistol0grip0pump Před 9 měsíci +7

    Oooh! I've been looking forwards to this!
    Also : Hawkins & Company!
    It's so awesome to see real hand crafted leatherwork goods, there's too much Chinesium wank products everywhere.

  • @Demos_Jeff
    @Demos_Jeff Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really like the rock like sound that Sa’khans armor makes when he pats his chest. Ceramite being more of a rock like texture instead of the loud metallic sound makes a lot more sense when it comes to legions like the raven guard and alpha legion being sneaky bois.

  • @slowe177
    @slowe177 Před 9 měsíci

    I like seeing the different legions and factions, gives you a feel for them all through the different series. Salamanders seem like good dudes. Appreciate the breakdowns on all of it

  • @MrUdarr
    @MrUdarr Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great summary keept it up !
    also Necrons are my first Army , i absolutely love how they are made in this 2 Episodes. i adore Illuminor Szeras !

    • @justsomeguyinnc473
      @justsomeguyinnc473 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I really dug the scene in Ep.1 when Szeras activates the Deathmark, and the dialog between them! I've watched that scene several times...

  • @horsearcher6852
    @horsearcher6852 Před 9 měsíci +4

    love Sa'kan very much in this series

  • @rafaelpolissperandio4222
    @rafaelpolissperandio4222 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I love how the guardsman and the Marine say Unworthy together....

  • @ShadowlessFist
    @ShadowlessFist Před 9 měsíci +1

    The thing to remember about Space Marines, is that the primary way they defend Humanity is to KILL its enemies, not stand between enemy weapons fire and human beings. This is also what makes Salamanders different to most of their cousins. Because they still interact with their people on Nocturne, they are not so far removed from Humanity that they lack empathy for their short, fragile lives. To be so close to them reminds Salamanders what they fight for.

  • @Exiovus
    @Exiovus Před 9 měsíci

    absolutely phenomenal by gw and m2 animation, if they keep this content coming I will definitely remain subscribed for such incredible quality. I've recently gotten back into warhammer 40k miniatures and started an adapta sororitas army. Seeing them in brought to life in this series is next level, the animation, sound design, voice acting and even small details in the back ground for ambience is something I didn't expect to see given hammer and bolters poor quality letting me down with a poor experience but they truly delivered with this content I just hope they keep them coming with minimal time gaps. ty counterpoints for your review.

  • @valentinvozaf647
    @valentinvozaf647 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I watched this a few hours before you released this video and i have to say i loved this episode. When the Destroyer was leaning over the impaled sister it looked to me as if he was mirroring her own words ´´you are a cancer to this galaxy´´ ´´I despise you´´.

  • @roman_tyrant
    @roman_tyrant Před 9 měsíci +1

    18:32 Just absolutely blows me away how FAST astartes actually can move in power arrmour. By the Emperor is awesome.

  • @timulewicz466
    @timulewicz466 Před 9 měsíci

    Been looking forward to your run through of this! Awesome work man thank you 🙏

  • @arcdecibel9986
    @arcdecibel9986 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It is HERESY that only two episodes of this are out! I want to see the rest of it, and the Adeptus Mechanicus had better be there to salvage some of this Necron tech.

  • @MrNuclearturtle
    @MrNuclearturtle Před 9 měsíci +5

    Animation is fantastic, audio mixing is superb and is exactly the kind of show that would get newcomers in….and it’s on a subpar service that can’t even play on a fucking tv to witness this….I know GW wants a firm grasp on their ip, but not being on a mainstream streaming service and no real support for bigger tvs completely undermines this show and would’ve been the flagship port of call for newcomers.

  • @artilyon
    @artilyon Před 9 měsíci +2

    I love that hes shown to have some asian feature maybe from the place they recuited him from, and the gene seed just turned him onyx as it should be

  • @king.jarjerk4201
    @king.jarjerk4201 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Your channel got me to just dive head first into Warhammer lore and I'm not sure if I appreciate, or despise you for it.

  • @Knight3rrant
    @Knight3rrant Před 9 měsíci

    Hawkins & Company!
    New subscriber. Just discovered your channel last week and enjoying all your previous work as fast as I can watch.

  • @exanhighlander6236
    @exanhighlander6236 Před 8 měsíci +1

    With this amount of production quality, content and detail. GW take my money! Well done!

  • @michelmancini4804
    @michelmancini4804 Před 9 měsíci

    I don't know why, but nothing makes me happier than the metallic, heavy thuds of a Space Marine marching down any path, or the sound of Holy Boltor fire

  • @javiermichel7097
    @javiermichel7097 Před 3 měsíci

    17:48
    The last thing eldars sees before became gem souls.

  • @juag85
    @juag85 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Astartes wasn't GWs creation FYI. We should never forget that. But yes this latest release has been awesome so far.

  • @Cerberus221
    @Cerberus221 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for all your videos. Pariah Nexus has been one of my favourites and have taken out a Warhammer+ sub because of it. Hope they add more content soon.

  • @myflatlineconstruct
    @myflatlineconstruct Před měsícem

    The recreated battle is beautiful visually, audibly, and fluffy. Amazing still

  • @dayastello630
    @dayastello630 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I genuinely love how the Sergeant steps infront of the sister almost scoffing "unworthy" back at the sister or battle, implying to me that no one is unworthy of the emperor and his angels protection, the imperium of man doesnt deserve the salamanders and the only other chapter i can see responding this way is the lamenters. genuinely what we hope the soldiers of tomorrow act as protectors of humanity

  • @EricLuhman
    @EricLuhman Před 9 měsíci +1

    Awesome job as always!

  • @saylesherrow6994
    @saylesherrow6994 Před 9 měsíci

    Love the videos . Keep it up!! I need to go ahead and pull the trigger on warhammer tv!!!

  • @JO-vj5lq
    @JO-vj5lq Před 9 měsíci +3

    This episode was just about exactly what I needed to see to from them… I wasn’t a fan of the little micro chapter vibes of epidode 1.. I know episode 2 did have a few chapters but it still felt much less intrusive… and it was very nice to see a sister of battle that I didn’t want to pump full of my gene seed…well , at least it wasn’t my first thought..

  • @seamuspautz7532
    @seamuspautz7532 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Pariah Nexus. Infernus Marines. Firestorm Assault Force. It is a GOOD time to be a Son of Nocturne

  • @NuevoExistence
    @NuevoExistence Před 5 měsíci

    Salamanders are unusually calm, even for a space marine. The only other chapter I can think of is the Ultramarines. When he says "unworthy?" it's anger. It's more like "UNWORTHY!?"

  • @Mr.BednaR
    @Mr.BednaR Před 8 měsíci

    Weaponry sounds are really well done. Even laz rifles sound dangerous for a change.

  • @volodyanarchist
    @volodyanarchist Před 3 měsíci

    I do believe that Salamander has understood what was happening to the guardsmen and it was out of mercy that he has finished them off.

  • @epsilon-1138
    @epsilon-1138 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Space marines are well aware of necron weaponry that they chose to evade than tanking it and their reaction speed is no joke for a warrior that large

  • @andrew3203
    @andrew3203 Před 8 měsíci

    I have this huge theory of how Nurgle came into existence from the cancer and rot that the Necrontyr discarded during their biotransference, thus giving Nurgle an origin story similar to Slaneesh and the Eldar. That Sister calling the Destroyer a cancer upon the galaxy may be closer to the truth that you thought.

  • @jupitergaming5146
    @jupitergaming5146 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I actually really like that even after the sister showed intent to kill the civilians and called them "unworthy" the salamander still tries to talk her down several times and doesn't immediately resort to violence to solve a problem, even when threatened by it

  • @ma5bgaming779
    @ma5bgaming779 Před 9 měsíci

    How ironic, that the sister is talking about the faithless. Also I would have really liked this to show the inhuman reflexes and capabilities of a marine, and the cold ruthlessness and unknowable alienness of the necrons in their movements, but on second thought they got the balance between lore accurate and good to view just right

  • @gladius6132
    @gladius6132 Před 9 měsíci

    This is really cool, hope we see more of it.

  • @tirsolouisegaccion4419
    @tirsolouisegaccion4419 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I really have a curiosity on why do the Space Marines remove their helmets during battle if this is how they work? Their helmets are OP af.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Před 9 měsíci +3

      It’s just for narrative so you can see their expressions it’s silly but a lot of people empathize with a face more than a helmet.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Před 9 měsíci +3

      This time I think it’s to show the actual humans that the Astartes was once / is human, these people are in a combat zone with robots that are controlling people, he wanted to calm them down a bit

    • @domokun845
      @domokun845 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Probably only a Salamander and a few other chapters would do this. They are much more humane and will go to great lengths to save and empathize with civilians.
      A Charcarodon or a Black Raven, not so much

  • @goldenkurlz
    @goldenkurlz Před 9 měsíci +8

    My only complaint is there are so many "ooo look how awesome space marines are!" type of shots whereas astartes is driving narrative with every second. We get it, GW, your minis and models are dope, that's why we watch, why we buy. But story is important also. However, major props to the scene transition between the canoness dying and the sgt standing over her fallen corpse.

  • @Bhargos
    @Bhargos Před 9 měsíci +1

    The necron just need a major redesign to not look like cartoony skeletons.
    Also, Sakan deez nuts!

  • @Rothulian
    @Rothulian Před 9 měsíci

    Really love your breakdowns.

  • @Datrandomasianguy
    @Datrandomasianguy Před 9 měsíci +10

    Finally gw did something right

  • @kingskelett6265
    @kingskelett6265 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Small side thing but this episode pretty much proves that the guardswoman is a hallucination, acting kinda like the sister's voice of doubt (and maybe her conscious?).
    She is neither introduced and not even mentioned by either Sa'Kan or sister Danikur (couldn't really understand her name), meaning that he obviously cannot see her and she does but seems to know of the guardswoman's nature.
    The guardswoman seems to just suddenly appear in spots, similarly to the first episode where she stood surrounded by mind-shackled guardsmen but nobody saw her. She also mirrors Sa'Kan in questioning why the sister calls the civilians 'unworthy', she pkeads for her to 'not do this'. And lastly she calls out to her to snap the sister out of the shell shock.
    I am honestly very interested as to why the sister acknowledged what is likely a figment of her stressed mind (or, theory, something actively caused by the necrons somehow, maybe an experiment) and openly talked to it earlier. Maybe she just feels lonely, maybe she is struggling in her faith.

  • @windrider970
    @windrider970 Před 9 měsíci +2

    great commentary!
    I wonder what happened to the guy that made Astartes. I kinda expected part 2 to drop by now, but seems like GW has him locked up in the dungeons while other teams are making their animations.

  • @irefusetogiveupto80s65
    @irefusetogiveupto80s65 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Yes, i was expecting this

  • @Irishman1861
    @Irishman1861 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Remember Astartes was not done by GW but was a fan piece first before the threatened with join or be sued into oblivion. but agreed this is awesome.

  • @Tertion
    @Tertion Před 9 měsíci

    That's a very kind act from the Deathmark to intervene at the right moment and save the life of that Sister...

  • @awildfisk
    @awildfisk Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hawkins & Company!
    Great video, CP!

  • @mystic1869
    @mystic1869 Před 8 měsíci

    adds to the theory that guardsman with the sister is just a figment since Sa'kan didn't acknowledge its presence that much

  • @magicmeech4560
    @magicmeech4560 Před 9 měsíci

    this is phenomenal

  • @rcarmashelt8528
    @rcarmashelt8528 Před 9 měsíci

    Great work as always keep it up my guy

  • @robluxipiech4033
    @robluxipiech4033 Před měsícem +1

    i miss the old helmets. these arent my space marines :( . i know i know, old bear, old man, things change.
    its like adding something to the cross, for the first time ever in a 40k post do i say, holy be thy name and not mean the emperor haha. u know what i mean XD . sorry for the lengthy post, just an old bear feeling nostalgic, u kids and new guys do what you wanna do, i still have my memories, im glad you found a new way to play, please support games workshop, even if it means a stern letter, love yall, God bless and protect you, as the emperor fictionally does too ! :) XOXO to my fellow hobbyist, its tough out there these days and i want you to know you are loved ! even from afar. my Nerd ass sure could use it sometimes so! heres my contribution. take great care ( mostly ) brothers. take care of each other. we are often all we got.

  • @juhel5531
    @juhel5531 Před 9 měsíci

    I wonder how spacemarines and ground infantry in general in warhammer40k make the tradeoff decision of wearing a helmet or not?
    I'd imagine the helmet is stuffy as all hell and restricts certain senses like FOV, smell, touch(for wind direction) etc. but the helmet protecting from glancing headshots, shrapnel, a layer to throw away when hit by the molecule disassembling weapon of the necrons etc. would also be valuable af.

  • @ackermomento677
    @ackermomento677 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm liking watching a few of your 40k videos, but I was more-so remembering your old movie breakdowns (Specifically the Full Metal Jacket ones) which I'd like to re-watch due to the interesting and insightful way you talked about the scenes as opposed to just sitting and "reacting" to them.
    However, I haven't been able to find those in this channel nor your regular Counterpoints channel; are those videos still up somewhere? I'd love to watch them.
    Have a great day!

  • @grimreminder5038
    @grimreminder5038 Před 9 měsíci

    One heart, two lungs, still refusing to let anyone, another human or alien to touch those behind him despite his station, humanity first symbolism at its finest. Always good to see some glimpse of hope in the dread of the greater galaxy