You know, I think that is really telling of how we view the most marginalized people in our society, the poor, disabled, elderly, etc... that they disappeared in this fire and no one counted them as dead. Forgotten by history. Truly sad and horrifying.
@@charlottewhite1277 if you put it to the parallels of today and how some people talk of those who have died of COVID-19. The Disabled and Elderly... the working poor who we all praised as essential worker. How are we any different?
As someone who lives in Northern California where wildfires have been devastating, I agree the likelihood of the numbers of deaths is much higher, sometimes fire can spread quicker than expected leaving little room to escape.
Excellent series! I too agree that there were far more deaths - but only six were "worth recording". It's a tragic reminder of how little life meant when it came to the poor or working classes, a trend that remains to today. Well done again!!
@@per-bjarnemikalsen3996 You failed introductory grade physics, haven't you? Welp, anyway, I have no intention of talking to the 2021 equivalent of the Time Cube. Bye, don't reply to me again.
From a very cursory look around the internet, Robert Viner's later life seems to have been presented highly distorted for dramatic effect. Yes, he had to deal with debts due to Charles's move but he was made Lord Mayor of the City of London in 1674 and he died in 1688 - twenty-two years after the Great Fire, and not exactly a poor man.
[Devonshire] "We will help London recover." [Nottinghamshire] "Here's some alms to help London recover." [Wales] "F*CK THOSE ENGLISH, WE ARN'T GIVING SQUAT."
24:50 - I am amazed by the determination bordering on lunacy of all those popular documentary makers, with which they keep trying to make people believe our ancestors ate ship's biscuits straight from the storage room. I wonder if those so called historians eat their noodles or potatoes uncooked too. The biscuits need to be softened by dipping them in tea or coffee or what have you for AT LEAST 15 minutes.
1666 was a perfect time to make the streets straight, but no, the new street layout was the same plate of spaghetti as the old one was. If only SimCity was a thing back then.
Ship's Biscuits are also called hardtack. It's eaten by soaking it in your broth (if you're lucky) or just water (if you're not). That softens it enough to consume.
I've been waiting for the next video. These are amazing. It's given me a newfound fascination with the great fire of London. Thank you so much for sharing these videos.
Those are traits of a psychopath, not every one of which has to become a serial killer or a killer at all. Not all psychopaths become criminals (murderers included), and not all criminals incl. murderers are psychopaths. Stop equaling one with the other - it's incorrect and hurtful to many people who are suffering from mental disorders.
I’m not sure how effective the firebreaks would have been considering in the last two episodes they kept talking about how the sheer levels of heat would make things spontaneously combust, and how the wind was flinging sparks and embers that would presumably be able to jump a fire break. I would also be curious to know what they did with all of the cleared rubble. I’m also a bit confused why the gunpowder set off for some of the firebreaks didn’t catch and start a fire as well- presumably it burnt itself out, but how were they able to keep those fires under control?
Morgan, I'm not an expert, but I do have some experience with blackpowder, the gunpowder that was available back then. Often, an explosion is so fast that combustibles are not set alight. For example. I fire a muzzleloading rifle with powder, wadding and a bullet. The wadding, which is cotton or paper, can be found a few feet from the muzzle. It is scorched and dirty, but it does not burn. The explosion id too fast for the combustible to reach the required temperature to ignite. Regarding the sparks and embers, I thought the same thing as you did. They did mention the wind shifted, so perhaps that is why they did not ignite the buildings on the other side of the break?
@@tracymeyers616 Actually, they showed how it was not effective until they began to remove the combustible debris from the razed houses. Perhaps you missed that.
I was wondering the same about embers flying with the wind and the hot gasses etc. Not sure about the rubble, possibly either dumped it into the river or the areas that already burned out. And after that, possibly shipped it out of the city and just dropped it somewhere where it wasn't spoiling rich people's view out of the window for the poor to worry about it, use it to build walls of their hovels and field walls.
Another thing to keep in mind that I've observed with wildfires here in the Western United States that was not mentioned at all (much to my surpise) in this series is that when the wind shifted to the east on Wednesday, the fire was redirected back into areas of London that had already burned to some great degree. There was far less raw fuel by then to feed and sustain the fire at the same degree of swiftness and ferocity as it had when it first passed through there under the westward winds. Even with what hadn't yet burned that was then put in the path of the now easterly traveling fire, it was not near the greatest bulk of the fire that had gone west. These factors would have given some advantages to help the efforts to stop the fire.
And to think they have a fire college/institute , a place where they study fire and how to deal with them, as well as a place to train people to fight fire.
I think it makes complete sense that a fire hot enough to melt iron and explode stone would incinerate thousands of bodies to dust and ash. There is no way all the residents of London could have escaped the inferno unscathed.
They failed to answer one major question tho. How do we know that the fire was started in Thomas Farriner's bakery when they publicly sentenced and executed someone else in 1666? They never really touched on this.
Here in Chicago it's the same bullshit about Mrs O'Leary's f-king cow. Yet whenever the streets are dug up, one sees a stratum of charred and blackened remains, fascinating reminder of the total devastation from Oct. 8, 1871.
The fact that they sentenced and executed someone meant nothing. The man was mentally ill and it is believed he confessed as a means of getting attention. Something that people do to this day, even if it means certain death. People confessed to being Jack The Ripper and The Zodiac Killer even when they weren’t. The Farriner’s testified that the poor guy threw a “fireball” (whatever the hell that means) through their window which makes no sense since they were supposedly already in bed (by their own account, leaving their ovens still with a little bit of fire, apparently) when the fire started so they couldn’t have seen anything. Nor that guy or anyone for that matter so their eyewitness account was shoddy and it absolved them of their apparent guilt without anyone looking any further into them. His trial was done very quickly as well in the direct aftermath of the fire where everybody was pissed, I am sure everyone in that court lost something to said fire and were looking for someone easy to blame. I don’t know how we all came to the conclusion that the fire started at the bakery though it is a very common and wildly accepted theory at this point. I suppose there is some corner in a library somewhere were we can see plans or something where someone traced the origin of the fire by eyewitness accounts and fire evidence of the day.
I'm absolutely with the expert. There must be hundreds of death people. In the first part they told that the warehouses at the docs contained hundreds of people sleeping and they exploded or were engulfed in flames. They can't all get out. And that's really a horrible imagination being a volunteering firefighter myself and have good in mind what happened here (years before I became one) with an refugee home which burned down.
24:43 hardtack lol. It’s good dunked in coffee-or at least that was a means of consuming it. Or adding it to chili or a wet meal to soften it up. So I suppose tea? lol I just can’t imagine hardtack in tea. It’s much too hard lololol. You can eat it carefully but after it’s been broken up into smaller bite sized pieces with a hammer or something.
13:17 Fire creates it's own environment in just house fires alone. You set the fire in a controlled setting so there's no wind or extreme atmosphereic changes that could cause the fire to jump to the other house. Radition is how a fire in one part of a house can cause an entire fire to go up in flames. When it gets hot enough, fire will just jump to the other side of the room without any contact with the fire at all. The fire breaks more than likely wouldn't work no matter how much they tried.
I live in Marseille and two buildings collapsed killing about 8 people in 2018. The buildings were built in the 19th century with no foundations and it was well known they were a severe danger. Yet they still allowed people to live there and landlords to rent them out. Some apartments were also owned by people close to the Mayor of Marseille (who had at that time been mayor for over 30 years...) And some tenants who survived are being forced to pay rent on their collapsed and destroyed apartment! Many nearly 3 years later have still not been re-homed. After this incident, many buildings were deemed uninhabitable in Marseille and thousands of people lost their homes due to this. Don't think this stuff is only happening in the 17th or "poor countries". This is happening now in France!!!
Yeah the fire breaks experiment is unrealistic, and proves nothing. And I love her hair so much! Her curls are perfect! If it is *truly* her natural hair she’s blessed. I have ringlets but they’re not full out throughout my whole head evenly like hers are.
The fire breake idea was a great idea but their tools were primitive and wouldn't clear away debris quickly enough or even bring down a house quickly in order to remove it from the fire path
My direct Brown ancestor only lived 32 yrs... one Mr. Clement Browne, Citizen and Salter of London. He married shortly after the fire and then died in 1672 (maybe long-term effects of smoke inhalation had a part in it?). I imagine him fighting flames and maybe later meeting his wife in a tent city. I am very interested in what happened immediately after the fire, for better reference for my day dreaming and musing.
One thing that wasn't mentioned about ships biscuits in this series is that they can be softened by soaking them in coffee, soup, or fat. If the refugees could find some of those things, which I'll grant were probably in short supply, then a ship's might have been a godsend that extended the mearger quantity of food that they could find.
Yeah it would definitely be of help. But also as what they said, if the people saw that there were already produce and bread and cheese, then it’s no surprise that people will choose those over the hardtacks.
Ok I have a question if the bakers advocated to blame someone else how do we know today that they did it? Just curious and if I've missed this information somewhere please direct me to it.
The little experiment they did with the gap between houses apparently worked if you removed the debris BUT the problem back then was that the streets were very narrow so what if that house that’s ablaze, colapses forward and simply burns down the lot in front of it? They needed to make a model with not only houses at the sides but houses back and in the front of the house on fire.
as fun as this was to watch, i'm sure the hosts had a ton of fun setting shit on fire. i mean, throughout the series they set fires, what, six or seven times? i think they proved their point but it's still super entertaining to watch!
He is right. You can completely cremate a body with incredibly high temperatures. Think the bodies of Pompeii. Some of the bodies got cremated because of how intense the heat, in that case, was. With the fire of London, add heat from the fire + the heatwave and dry weather they were having + a fire that burns for almost a week straight?? Add the fat of the body (Adipocere) which acts as a fuel… Yeah. Ashes is what you will be left with. It melt iron and steel… a human body means nothing.
I would like to think that the lame,old and very young were led or carried out of the city by more able bodied londoners. The idea that they'd just be left to die seems a bit much to me. Perhaps a few were so cold hearted as to abandon those that needed them and depended on them but I can't imagine that kind of thing being widespread.
The poorest of the poor were considered no better than vermin. No one above them would have bothered with them, let alone put out time and effort in a disaster to save them. They would have tried to get out, but I also believe that many would have been left to burn. As for the old, lame and children, family that cared would have tried to save them, but given the time, and that they more than likely could only flee by foot, decisions would have had to be made on who they saved.
Despite the limited fire fighting capabilities, i fail to see how the Tower of London would be threatened at all? At that time, there should've been a moat...and if not, the walls were still 20' high & over 6' thick....the Tower would've been located in the middle of the Castle...last time i checked, stone doesn't burn so well. Fire breaks were a good idea but completely unnecessary i think? They should've spent the effort making breaks in order to save more of the city i think. Poor decisions made by poor leaders of the time...save the "important" buildings to keep your ego intact so that you can project your "false power" and say screw the rest....typical Tyranny in action lol!
I don't see the low death toll as some big conspiracy. Most of the people who died would have been poor. We know the fire was hot enough to cremate their body, so there's no evidence of their death. If they had no family or their family also died there would be nobody to report what happened. Their place of work likely went up in flames as well so no employer to know what happened. Even when it comes to things like tax registers (assuming there were such things for the poor), thousands of people who lost their homes and jobs would likely have moved out of the city entirely, so you wouldn't be able to say for certain that a person who couldn't be found was dead or just gone. And who kept the records in the first place? The whole city was trying to run from a fire so it wouldn't surprise me if the record-keeping became lax for a time. All that certainly seems more believable to me than all the sudden the city which meticulously recorded every possible death before the fire suddenly stopped caring about the lower classes for 3 days. More than 6? Absolutely. Some huge class warfare conspiracy to hide tens of thousands of deaths? Absolutely not.
I am being honest, please don’t think poorly of me, I had never heard of the Great Fire. If i was taught about it in school, then it would have been less than a full hour, certainly. I am sure I would have failed the quiz. In the United States, our educational system, while being better than a lot of countries, it is very self-centered. I am blessed to now have learned about it, and will never forget it. Perhaps I just happened to have an empty space in my brain that is now insatiably desiring more history of this planet. Thank you.
@@just8310 I didn’t think I really needed history, math or science in school. I have no idea how all of that passed me by. I was good at everything else. So as an adult, I am very interested in it all!
Get out to where? Even if they could get out, the streets are already blocked and there were bottlenecks going out of the city (this was mentioned in the first two parts of this series). Also, you might be dead not only by burning but by smoke inhalation and suffocation, which will render you unconscious and thus just there waiting to be consumed by fire.
Geez, people haven't really changed much through history, the landlords just being greedy, I would have just left london and changed my name cuz I wouldn't pay them squat.
Great series guys. Can’t wait to visit all the places featured in the series next time I visit London. It will be some time before I take the trip because I am still pissed off at the way the British media and some other folks treated and continue to hate on our girl Meghan Markle and the general disdain for “Americans”.
Luxury or no luxury always be proud of your brand and try working to improve. I love luxurious lifestyles. All thanks to crypto I just got my first Lamborghini 💝. My advice to y'all invest in cryptocurrency or gold.
Wow. You actually spent 5 minutes explaining that fire burns stuff and if no stuff, no fire. Simply riveting content. Please expound on fire hot burny burny some more, it's such a complex topic.
You know, I think that is really telling of how we view the most marginalized people in our society, the poor, disabled, elderly, etc... that they disappeared in this fire and no one counted them as dead. Forgotten by history. Truly sad and horrifying.
Disturbing is putting it mildly
@@charlottewhite1277 if you put it to the parallels of today and how some people talk of those who have died of COVID-19. The Disabled and Elderly... the working poor who we all praised as essential worker. How are we any different?
@@auroraborealass ikr! I'm just disguted to hear people say "just let them die" D:
As someone who lives in Northern California where wildfires have been devastating, I agree the likelihood of the numbers of deaths is much higher, sometimes fire can spread quicker than expected leaving little room to escape.
This 3-part docu series is 3 hours of my life well-spent 🙂
Absolutely. Even if that means staying awake till after 3am. 🤣🤷♀️ But I can go on with my diamond painting and listen to it. So it's okay
Excellent series! I too agree that there were far more deaths - but only six were "worth recording". It's a tragic reminder of how little life meant when it came to the poor or working classes, a trend that remains to today. Well done again!!
Yes, Tara, you're unfortunately so right!
There is no comparison between the poor then and the poor now. That is disrespectful to our ancestors.
@@resnonverba137 so true
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32:58 "The king canceled his debts", damm, if we refuse to pay in any way, we get thrown in jail, but the king just made a "workaround".
_Making a mental note about never lending money to sb who could order having me beheaded or banished._
In the words of Mel Brooks...."It's good to be the king"
What do we learn from this story, dear children?
*Never lend money to somebody who has no authority above them to force them to pay it back!*
It is all a lie. And this world is a terarium, a built, and stationary growthhouse, not a planet freely in a space!
@@per-bjarnemikalsen3996 ... Not sure if extremely flowery language, or bizarre conspiracy theory.
@@StrikaAmaru It is logic, and true. You are not feeling any centripetal acceleration, because we are stationary.
@@per-bjarnemikalsen3996 You failed introductory grade physics, haven't you? Welp, anyway, I have no intention of talking to the 2021 equivalent of the Time Cube. Bye, don't reply to me again.
From a very cursory look around the internet, Robert Viner's later life seems to have been presented highly distorted for dramatic effect. Yes, he had to deal with debts due to Charles's move but he was made Lord Mayor of the City of London in 1674 and he died in 1688 - twenty-two years after the Great Fire, and not exactly a poor man.
We must ALL feel bad for the rich man. Everybody else lost everything… but not the rich man.
Wikipedia says he received an annuity of £25,000. Do you know if that's true?
[Devonshire] "We will help London recover." [Nottinghamshire] "Here's some alms to help London recover." [Wales] "F*CK THOSE ENGLISH, WE ARN'T GIVING SQUAT."
The English never were very nice to their Welsh neighbors, before or after the fire.
@@moendopi5430 that was my guess why there wasnt much donations from there
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Well done...I really enjoyed the whole retelling of the Great Fire.
Very fascinating series. I liked hearing about the real people. And the artifact from the young lady that was the cobbler
I stuck around for the accent ☺️
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I love all these history documentary. I watch them /listen as I crochet
This is an awful story told with great kindness, compassion, and empathy.
Thank you for this wonderful presentation.
24:50 - I am amazed by the determination bordering on lunacy of all those popular documentary makers, with which they keep trying to make people believe our ancestors ate ship's biscuits straight from the storage room. I wonder if those so called historians eat their noodles or potatoes uncooked too. The biscuits need to be softened by dipping them in tea or coffee or what have you for AT LEAST 15 minutes.
1666 was a perfect time to make the streets straight, but no, the new street layout was the same plate of spaghetti as the old one was. If only SimCity was a thing back then.
@Maurice Hermsen Whatever point you wanted to get across was lost in half-sentences and non-existent grammar.
@Maurice Hermsen what
Pretty sure the streets were paved so they couldn't just change the layout?
@@orionsbeltonthesestars The stones used were probably cracked to rubble from the heat anyway.
Ship's Biscuits are also called hardtack. It's eaten by soaking it in your broth (if you're lucky) or just water (if you're not). That softens it enough to consume.
I've been waiting for the next video. These are amazing. It's given me a newfound fascination with the great fire of London. Thank you so much for sharing these videos.
I really love this channel God bless, from the usa
I second that from Canada
I want to see these guys do the Chicago and prestigo fires
I’ve read that one of the telling traits of a serial killer is starting fires in addition to harming small animals and bed wetting.
Those are traits of a psychopath, not every one of which has to become a serial killer or a killer at all.
Not all psychopaths become criminals (murderers included), and not all criminals incl. murderers are psychopaths. Stop equaling one with the other - it's incorrect and hurtful to many people who are suffering from mental disorders.
especially cruel and sadistic torturing of small defenseless animals. Psychologists have shown strange scenes that arsonists draw.
I’m not sure how effective the firebreaks would have been considering in the last two episodes they kept talking about how the sheer levels of heat would make things spontaneously combust, and how the wind was flinging sparks and embers that would presumably be able to jump a fire break. I would also be curious to know what they did with all of the cleared rubble.
I’m also a bit confused why the gunpowder set off for some of the firebreaks didn’t catch and start a fire as well- presumably it burnt itself out, but how were they able to keep those fires under control?
Morgan,
I'm not an expert, but I do have some experience with blackpowder, the gunpowder that was available back then. Often, an explosion is so fast that combustibles are not set alight. For example. I fire a muzzleloading rifle with powder, wadding and a bullet. The wadding, which is cotton or paper, can be found a few feet from the muzzle. It is scorched and dirty, but it does not burn. The explosion id too fast for the combustible to reach the required temperature to ignite. Regarding the sparks and embers, I thought the same thing as you did. They did mention the wind shifted, so perhaps that is why they did not ignite the buildings on the other side of the break?
They addressed the ineffectiveness of this practice. They even demonstrated how flawed this practice was. Seems you missed it @Morgan Ingram
@@tracymeyers616 Actually, they showed how it was not effective until they began to remove the combustible debris from the razed houses. Perhaps you missed that.
I was wondering the same about embers flying with the wind and the hot gasses etc. Not sure about the rubble, possibly either dumped it into the river or the areas that already burned out. And after that, possibly shipped it out of the city and just dropped it somewhere where it wasn't spoiling rich people's view out of the window for the poor to worry about it, use it to build walls of their hovels and field walls.
Another thing to keep in mind that I've observed with wildfires here in the Western United States that was not mentioned at all (much to my surpise) in this series is that when the wind shifted to the east on Wednesday, the fire was redirected back into areas of London that had already burned to some great degree. There was far less raw fuel by then to feed and sustain the fire at the same degree of swiftness and ferocity as it had when it first passed through there under the westward winds. Even with what hadn't yet burned that was then put in the path of the now easterly traveling fire, it was not near the greatest bulk of the fire that had gone west. These factors would have given some advantages to help the efforts to stop the fire.
Have a very healthy respect for fire. Am very impressed by the scale system used to replicate the fire.
And to think they have a fire college/institute , a place where they study fire and how to deal with them, as well as a place to train people to fight fire.
This series is done so well! I feel like I'm on an adventure myself. Amazingly done 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I think it makes complete sense that a fire hot enough to melt iron and explode stone would incinerate thousands of bodies to dust and ash. There is no way all the residents of London could have escaped the inferno unscathed.
Absolutely brilliant, my dears!
Thank you so much for this amazing insight into our history!
All best wishes, Claire, Berlin 😘 😘 😘 ✌ 👍
They failed to answer one major question tho. How do we know that the fire was started in Thomas Farriner's bakery when they publicly sentenced and executed someone else in 1666? They never really touched on this.
Here in Chicago it's the same bullshit about Mrs O'Leary's f-king cow. Yet whenever the streets are dug up, one sees a stratum of charred and blackened remains, fascinating reminder of the total devastation from Oct. 8, 1871.
The fact that they sentenced and executed someone meant nothing. The man was mentally ill and it is believed he confessed as a means of getting attention. Something that people do to this day, even if it means certain death. People confessed to being Jack The Ripper and The Zodiac Killer even when they weren’t. The Farriner’s testified that the poor guy threw a “fireball” (whatever the hell that means) through their window which makes no sense since they were supposedly already in bed (by their own account, leaving their ovens still with a little bit of fire, apparently) when the fire started so they couldn’t have seen anything. Nor that guy or anyone for that matter so their eyewitness account was shoddy and it absolved them of their apparent guilt without anyone looking any further into them. His trial was done very quickly as well in the direct aftermath of the fire where everybody was pissed, I am sure everyone in that court lost something to said fire and were looking for someone easy to blame.
I don’t know how we all came to the conclusion that the fire started at the bakery though it is a very common and wildly accepted theory at this point. I suppose there is some corner in a library somewhere were we can see plans or something where someone traced the origin of the fire by eyewitness accounts and fire evidence of the day.
This was excellent and very informative.
I enjoyed these so much, thank you!
Wonderful series!! Thanks so much!!
Great documentary series. Thank you.
Always great fantastic documentary... magnific 👌
Wonderful series. These types of events it’s you reflect about vulnerability of life.
Did not know this. Thank you 😊
This was great! Thank you
Really enjoyed this series.
Really enjoyed this series
I trust my mans only because of them timbs 🙏
Aww now it’s over 😩 please do more of these!
I love that history professor. Straight out of the movies.
They must have been incredibly strong people to last through the plague and then the great fire. That's a lot to go thru in just two years.
Ugg boots...come on dude 😂
This is a brilliant series, so informative!
aww, I loved this, because My family arrived in America from London in 1667, soon after the fire.
I'm absolutely with the expert. There must be hundreds of death people. In the first part they told that the warehouses at the docs contained hundreds of people sleeping and they exploded or were engulfed in flames. They can't all get out. And that's really a horrible imagination being a volunteering firefighter myself and have good in mind what happened here (years before I became one) with an refugee home which burned down.
24:43 hardtack lol. It’s good dunked in coffee-or at least that was a means of consuming it. Or adding it to chili or a wet meal to soften it up. So I suppose tea? lol I just can’t imagine hardtack in tea. It’s much too hard lololol. You can eat it carefully but after it’s been broken up into smaller bite sized pieces with a hammer or something.
You toss one cigarette 🚬 out of the tartus and everything goes up in flames 🔥
Butterfly effect and all that…
13:17 Fire creates it's own environment in just house fires alone. You set the fire in a controlled setting so there's no wind or extreme atmosphereic changes that could cause the fire to jump to the other house. Radition is how a fire in one part of a house can cause an entire fire to go up in flames. When it gets hot enough, fire will just jump to the other side of the room without any contact with the fire at all. The fire breaks more than likely wouldn't work no matter how much they tried.
I live in Marseille and two buildings collapsed killing about 8 people in 2018. The buildings were built in the 19th century with no foundations and it was well known they were a severe danger. Yet they still allowed people to live there and landlords to rent them out. Some apartments were also owned by people close to the Mayor of Marseille (who had at that time been mayor for over 30 years...) And some tenants who survived are being forced to pay rent on their collapsed and destroyed apartment! Many nearly 3 years later have still not been re-homed. After this incident, many buildings were deemed uninhabitable in Marseille and thousands of people lost their homes due to this. Don't think this stuff is only happening in the 17th or "poor countries". This is happening now in France!!!
The experiment with the fire and fire breaks doesn't take into account the wind. I wonder if Suzannah's hair is naturally curly, I'm a little envious.
Yeah the fire breaks experiment is unrealistic, and proves nothing. And I love her hair so much! Her curls are perfect! If it is *truly* her natural hair she’s blessed. I have ringlets but they’re not full out throughout my whole head evenly like hers are.
Poor Robert !
The fire breake idea was a great idea but their tools were primitive and wouldn't clear away debris quickly enough or even bring down a house quickly in order to remove it from the fire path
Nice to know the financial market works just as well back then too.
I wonder how different English history would have been if Farriner had made sure the fire was completely put out before calling it a day?
The second Wednesday of September 1666 was the 8th.
Was Ronald Hutton the speech teacher for Joe Lycett? )))
Suzannah Lipscomb is my favorite historian. But you guys are up there with the best
My direct Brown ancestor only lived 32 yrs... one Mr. Clement Browne, Citizen and Salter of London. He married shortly after the fire and then died in 1672 (maybe long-term effects of smoke inhalation had a part in it?). I imagine him fighting flames and maybe later meeting his wife in a tent city. I am very interested in what happened immediately after the fire, for better reference for my day dreaming and musing.
The way Suzannah looks at Dan makes me wonder....
Suzannah one of my favorite historians
Very intrinsic: only gunpowder saved gunpowder from the expanding fire. This is not ironic
The most important thing I learned here is Poppy seeds can make morphine and you don't actually have to spend millions on synthetic hospital bills
Possibly difficult to say if died from Plague or fire
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One thing that wasn't mentioned about ships biscuits in this series is that they can be softened by soaking them in coffee, soup, or fat. If the refugees could find some of those things, which I'll grant were probably in short supply, then a ship's might have been a godsend that extended the mearger quantity of food that they could find.
Yeah it would definitely be of help. But also as what they said, if the people saw that there were already produce and bread and cheese, then it’s no surprise that people will choose those over the hardtacks.
Ok I have a question if the bakers advocated to blame someone else how do we know today that they did it? Just curious and if I've missed this information somewhere please direct me to it.
When were the walls taken down ?
How did the fire effect trade in the colonys in America. Same year.
London fire. 9 6 66.
Boston colony same date.
interesting how the king of england can cancel his own debts by a simple decree, thus absolving himself from owning up to his own contracts.
The little experiment they did with the gap between houses apparently worked if you removed the debris BUT the problem back then was that the streets were very narrow so what if that house that’s ablaze, colapses forward and simply burns down the lot in front of it?
They needed to make a model with not only houses at the sides but houses back and in the front of the house on fire.
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as fun as this was to watch, i'm sure the hosts had a ton of fun setting shit on fire. i mean, throughout the series they set fires, what, six or seven times? i think they proved their point but it's still super entertaining to watch!
@ Ask A Mortician is he right about what it takes to cremate a body? At 19:00 ? I feel like this isn’t quite enough...
He is right. You can completely cremate a body with incredibly high temperatures. Think the bodies of Pompeii. Some of the bodies got cremated because of how intense the heat, in that case, was. With the fire of London, add heat from the fire + the heatwave and dry weather they were having + a fire that burns for almost a week straight?? Add the fat of the body (Adipocere) which acts as a fuel… Yeah. Ashes is what you will be left with. It melt iron and steel… a human body means nothing.
I would like to think that the lame,old and very young were led or carried out of the city by more able bodied londoners. The idea that they'd just be left to die seems a bit much to me. Perhaps a few were so cold hearted as to abandon those that needed them and depended on them but I can't imagine that kind of thing being widespread.
The poorest of the poor were considered no better than vermin. No one above them would have bothered with them, let alone put out time and effort in a disaster to save them. They would have tried to get out, but I also believe that many would have been left to burn. As for the old, lame and children, family that cared would have tried to save them, but given the time, and that they more than likely could only flee by foot, decisions would have had to be made on who they saved.
I'm with you on this one, I like to think of people as good, but chances are it was everyone for themselves
“There is no London. London is buried under 6 feet of charred rubble”
Hutton says it as it is
Higgledy piggledy
Despite the limited fire fighting capabilities, i fail to see how the Tower of London would be threatened at all? At that time, there should've been a moat...and if not, the walls were still 20' high & over 6' thick....the Tower would've been located in the middle of the Castle...last time i checked, stone doesn't burn so well. Fire breaks were a good idea but completely unnecessary i think? They should've spent the effort making breaks in order to save more of the city i think. Poor decisions made by poor leaders of the time...save the "important" buildings to keep your ego intact so that you can project your "false power" and say screw the rest....typical Tyranny in action lol!
Suzannah... siiiigh... regal beauty right there
But the land was there
I say the town brick maker started the fire.
I don't see the low death toll as some big conspiracy. Most of the people who died would have been poor. We know the fire was hot enough to cremate their body, so there's no evidence of their death. If they had no family or their family also died there would be nobody to report what happened. Their place of work likely went up in flames as well so no employer to know what happened. Even when it comes to things like tax registers (assuming there were such things for the poor), thousands of people who lost their homes and jobs would likely have moved out of the city entirely, so you wouldn't be able to say for certain that a person who couldn't be found was dead or just gone. And who kept the records in the first place? The whole city was trying to run from a fire so it wouldn't surprise me if the record-keeping became lax for a time.
All that certainly seems more believable to me than all the sudden the city which meticulously recorded every possible death before the fire suddenly stopped caring about the lower classes for 3 days. More than 6? Absolutely. Some huge class warfare conspiracy to hide tens of thousands of deaths? Absolutely not.
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So who got the properties
What a coincedence
That has a lot of numerology
rebuilding for christs sake the title is incorrect
Did any other religious history nerds start cheering when Ronald Hutton showed up? Just me? Ok.
I get so stoked every time he makes an appearance in these documentaries! Such a delightful man.
I am being honest, please don’t think poorly of me, I had never heard of the Great Fire. If i was taught about it in school, then it would have been less than a full hour, certainly. I am sure I would have failed the quiz. In the United States, our educational system, while being better than a lot of countries, it is very self-centered.
I am blessed to now have learned about it, and will never forget it. Perhaps I just happened to have an empty space in my brain that is now insatiably desiring more history of this planet. Thank you.
I came across your comment randomly I thought it was respectful and kind worth of note. Unlike so much on the internet
I do remember being taught this in my elementary school in California And the San Francisco fire
@@just8310 I didn’t think I really needed history, math or science in school. I have no idea how all of that passed me by.
I was good at everything else. So as an adult, I am very interested in it all!
@@Queen_of_Hearts-Sharnell better late than never 🙂. I wish you joy in discovering new things and knowledge.
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I don't think THAT many people died. You would be able to see the fire coming for quite some time and have time to get out.
Get out to where? Even if they could get out, the streets are already blocked and there were bottlenecks going out of the city (this was mentioned in the first two parts of this series). Also, you might be dead not only by burning but by smoke inhalation and suffocation, which will render you unconscious and thus just there waiting to be consumed by fire.
I disagree. Look how many idiots stay when a huge hurricane is blowing in. People are stupid now and they were stupid then.
What happened to the mayor of London? Why wasn’t he blamed?
Same question. I mean I am also interested on what happened to him, given that his ineptitude and corrupt practice worsened the fire.
I love the show but I'm so distracted with the need to separate the host woman's ringlets! 😠
The greaf fire of london is cool and all, but what about the inequality women faced? clearly that was the #1 issue of a suffering city
The GF may be part of genuine British consciousness, but I doubt the new imports now habiting London even know about it or care.
Geez, people haven't really changed much through history, the landlords just being greedy, I would have just left london and changed my name cuz I wouldn't pay them squat.
My cat is called Cilla and I love the queen. My cat is ginger
Great series guys. Can’t wait to visit all the places featured in the series next time I visit London. It will be some time before I take the trip because I am still pissed off at the way the British media and some other folks treated and continue to hate on our girl Meghan Markle and the general disdain for “Americans”.
The great reset.
Cestui que vie
@Maurice Hermsen I know. Sign yourself in as a human made of flesh and blood. But to many don't know.
accident my arse
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Someone needs to drop a few tanker planes of ClF3 on London and watch the concrete burn in 2021.
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Wow. You actually spent 5 minutes explaining that fire burns stuff and if no stuff, no fire. Simply riveting content. Please expound on fire hot burny burny some more, it's such a complex topic.
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