Fate Lore - The Tale of Edmond Dantès [Fate/Grand Order]
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This week we take a look at our prison boy Edmond Dantes from Fate/Grand Order.
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I think Edmond is a lot cooler when learning why he's so angry and vengeful all the time. What do you think of him?
Well I'd be pissed if I were blamed for something I didn't commit, tossed in jail and got my loved one stolen.
He was already badass in his source material, so no surprise he’s a badass here.
I wonder if that vampire will become a servant.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He was my first (and still only :/) 5star, but I was so happy when I got him! His lore is so amazing that I bought the book today and started to read it. 1240 pages, here I come!
After the prison tower, the guy show up and save your ass multiple times. He save your ass in Salomon, Shinjuku and Shimousa, even appear in your dream in Norse losbelt. The guy is best bro.
Apparently In an audio drama Dantes killed a Younger Dead apostle Ancestor Roa
@LonelyG33k
He is a mixture of fiction and real person (in Nasuverse)
Lostbelt 5 spoilers: he also appears in the dream/hypnosis of aphrodite
I feel his vengeance is justified, and he is the original Avenger Servant
@@crps9354 Yeah but I'm referring to Edmond's legend
@@crps9354 he was thought to be a dark god and was tortured and killied, so he was never avenged himself right?
Angra Manyu is a strange Avenger in that he is indeed the origin of the class but he's also the weakest Avenger as he is "nothing". In fact, the storyline of Solomon is almost literally lifted from Angra Manyu's storyline (both Solomon and Angra Manyu were men who were forced into a role and held no emotions towards said role, only fulfilling it mechanically, and their one and only desire in their lives was to "live an ordinary life").
So, while Avenger is the source of sin and hatred, Dantes is the source of "revenge". The title "the original avenger" is a reference to it's place as an incredibly famous figure that's born purely from the desire to take revenge. That's precisely why Avenger Dantes hates being called by his name, since the Dantes from the novel stops being the man full of anger and hatred at the end of the story. Basically, Avenger Dantes only personifies The Count of Monte Cristo, the period of time where Dantes swore to take revenge on every single one of his enemies.
@@LeonGun8 in fgo servants say that memories of their life after the point of their prime which they are summoned from feel like they come from someone else. Dante must feel like he's regressed back into his hate filled self full of pain and raw emotion. Only able to recall the self of him that was able to heal from his past as a dream like memory.
Could but the class influences the summoning as well. Since he is summoned as an Avenger his prime will, of course, be as the Count of Monte Cristo, the dealer of vengeance. Whether he has memories "beyond the end of his revenge" is pointless.
I imagine we'd have a better idea of the true thoughts of Edmond Dantes if he could be summoned in a different class but since he only qualifies for the Avenger class he will always be summoned in this state.
Damn, Nasuverse priests are always hardcore.
amen
Yorokobe Shounen.
*looks at kirei inserting black keys in the gacha*
.....
Imagine if priests in real life were assassins instead of child molesters, like they are in the Nasuverse. That would be _sick._
May the lord find mercy for you in your next life *Stabs the person they are talking to.*
Hand up for those who actually read the Count of Monte Cristo.
*"Hands up"*
Hands up
I only listened to the musical. Does that count?
No pun intended. Or maybe it was.
🤚
I wanted an anime, I think its called Gankatsuo
@@123armyoftwo Interesting. Is it good?
I know Babylonia and Camelot are in the works, but does anyone else now want to see an adaptation of Edmond Dantes: vampire slayer?
That and the Manga the Goblin-slayer mangaka drew would be a nice new year's special
*Oh Shit! Is that a JoJo Reference!?*
He reminds me of a blood borne Hunter more or less
only a drama cs so far
Yes, Count of Monte Cristo the fate anime. Do it.
A man who did the impossible and was justified doing it. Edmond Dantes, the *true* first Avenger
Avenged?
Angry Mathew, i thought was the first avenger.
Up to now, I still love that Roa being killed is a constant in every timeline. Like, not even Kirei has to die in every universe, so you have to be really fucked up when the multiverse conspires to make sure you die
The game didn't do Edmond justice when in fate lore his abilities is very op.
Press F in the chat.
Correct for example his Noble Phantasm Chateau De'If is more busted then you realize as he's moving he so fast that's he's running outside Space and Time aka escaping Space and Time itself resulting in powerful "afterimage strikes" ending with multiple copies of himself fire at the unlucky opponents a ultra-powerful Flames of Grudge powered energy-beam attack.
His other noble phantasms are also canonically busted as hell
@@vtd2000 No argument there. As his starting NP Monte Cristo Mythologies has him fire at his opponent a energy beam powered by the Flames of Grudge that has the ability to pretty much scramble a enemy servant's atomic and molecular structure which means it has the ability to negate/bypass/nullify defensive abilities including Health Regeneration.
Tbh im not actually sure what would happen because herc has his nothing but A rank or higher attacks can kill him but Monte Cristo Mythologie also can probably stop that but IDK
@@vtd2000 In theory Monte Cristo Mythologie should work against Herc's 12 Labors due to the fact Monte Cristo Mythologie specifically states that the Flames of Grudge-powered projectile along with it's immense power is able to remove a enemy servant's defensive abilities including Health Regeneration via scrambling a enemy servant's atomic structure, and molecular structure.
The count really does have a good heart deep, deep, deep down
Pretty deep
His story, (although it’s fiction) is pretty amazing. Innocent sailor, accused of an assassination he never committed. He waited for years, in an inescapable prison for his revenge. Starved himself for several years, made only 1 friend there. At the end the priest gave him a map for a piece of treasure, to earn a title. Slowly but surely he used everyone as pawns to exact his revenge. And the man who took his fiancé committed suicide. His tale is fascinating, and sad.
Edge boy with Ultra Instinct!
Gudako: I know those eyes. Following me. Younger and kinder. And deep as the sea. How can you stand there a whisper from you. And yet, you are being so far away.
Edmond: This man is dead
He is no more
He died a little each day
Like a thief from château d'lf has stolen him away
I loved the story of the most Badass Avenger in all of fiction.
The one true avenger. MVP of fate/go here.
I still want to see V from vendetta as a servant, an assassin and he can blow up fortress
Desde Rabinal I think V is high likely to happen.
xxChainingHeartsxx I hope, I just love V xD
Based on what was established in Shinjuku- V may exist as a phantom spirit rather then a heroic spirit- much like the majority of fictional characters in the nasuverse (aka any charcter that originates from literary fiction)
transformersmoviesp I can see that happening since it makes sense. Wonder what class he'd be?
@@xxChainingHeartsxx considering his story and fighting style from the graphic noval and movie he'd probably be an assassin class servant. And much like how MHX has a unique skill against sabers, V would probably have a similar skill against enemies with the "lawful" alignment
In general the idea of summoning fictional characters is an absolutely fascinating concept that I'd love to see explored more....though they did mention during the story in Shinjuku that the only reason this was possible was due to Shinjuku' unique circumstances as a singularity- the only exception to those rules would be nursery rhyme
Edmond was actually held in the prison for 14 years not 6 and it was said in the event too so idk if that was a typo or what.
Another thing, during those 14 years the jailers would drag him out of his cell to be whipped 100 times on each anniversary of his incarceration. 50 times on the back and 50 times on the front which is where the scars came from.
Further more, some variations of the novel describe the prison as a gate to Hell which is where the whole title of the event came from.
Also that Edmond himself was transformed into a Devil from his time there.
Those are the more supernatural takes on the novel but I'm sure it's only to try and explain Edmond's sudden knack for cunning strategies and sword fighting when he had no previous training before he was imprisoned.
6 years by his lonesome and 8 with Faria is what I mentioned.
@@otakudaikun I didn't hear the 8 years part maybe I missed it
I don't have the supernatural elements or the 100 whippings in my version of the novel.
@@thomaschitham3487 Same I don't recall I don't recall it either. Maybe it was added in other versions.
@@parkermaisterra8532 I believe these supernatural elements were added in versions made during the 80's to early 2000's because someone decided it was too big a plot hole to have a Common man become a master at swordplay and cunning strategies practically overnight.
My favorite Avenger and Servant!
I love everything about this guy, and not just because The Count of Monte Cristo happens to be my favorite book. Thank you so much for making a video for him!
It also has a catchy musical
8:05 a wild tsukihime character appears!!!
Coming back to this after learning a lot more about Tsukihime.
*Clears throat* EDMOND KILLED ROA WHAT.
The first Avenger just keeps climbing the ranks of Badass
Yup, on the FGO timeline that's what went down.
Definitely one of the cooler Avengers in my opinion. Keep up the lore videos!
Sherlock Holmes: you thought it was Edmond Dantes but It was I Sherlock!!! (Those who played Epic of Remnant will get this)
i play it on jp but i dont get it... guess. will find out in NA
Only for the actual Dantes to show later for the final fight (again😝)
Jack king
*Dantes walks in*
You fokin’ wut, u cheeky lil’ English boye?!
If this isn't a Jojo reference, idk what more could a person ask for XD
Lmao I also thought of this...and as a big fan of Edmond, I actually was disappointed abt the fact :( But Holmes...may be pretty cool too...
And apparently Edmond also appears in Lostbelt! 💚
Dai an update while Dantes and Roa fight in all fate timelines FGO version is specific as Dantes black flames kill Roa permanently in the FGO timeline
and that Avenger picture 14:54 is gold the Avengers of chaldea giving the master Quartz shards
Tony Infinite I like that pic.
An Avenger among Avenger. One of my favorite servants and the one I wanted to see a video on the most. Really awesome video.
Wait, so if Edmond Dantes was real in the Nasuverse and spent the rest of his life after achieving his revenge with his mistress does that mean there could be actual descendants of The Count of Monte Cristo running around in the Nasuverse?
Stranger things have happened.
My personal favorite revenge story, just wish DW had made the first avenger released better.
Uh he amazing tho using skadi and you can just loop his NP for days
He's broken with skadi now.
I love Angra Mainyu. I love Jalter. But Edmond Dantes is my favorite Avenger by far. I LOVED the Kara no Kyoukai crossover. Its probably my favorite event so far.
I actually have a list of 8 servants that i consider my "top favorites" of each class. Ruler is Shirou Amakusa, Saber is Nero Claudius *Waifu for Laifu*, Archer is kid Gilgamesh, Lancer is Scathach, Rider is Astolfo, Assassin is Ryogi Shiki, Caster is Paracelcus, Beserker is Vlad III, and Avenger is Edmond Dantes. Though im not sure if Ryogi Shiki and Beserker Vlad are cop-outs or not xD
My favorite servant from my all time favorite book of all time. Thank you for doing a vid for him!
I've read Alexander Dumas's book 'Count of Monte Cristo'. Absolutely loved it. No magic in it, but the way he got his revenge was great!!
If only it had a blood sucking Roa in it...
Best Edgy Boi
I even grailed him to lvl 100
Finally a lore video about strongest avenger
Tbh canonically I feel like Astarte is more powerful
My favourite book,my fate bro,ALL THOSE TICKETS I USED TO SUMMMON YOU WERE WORTH IT.
Those priests were OP
Was always Best Avenger by FAR from a character stand-point (only real competition in the Fate Verse right now is Alcides imo) and is now backed-up by dominant performance in game. Happy about it.
The book was awesome, the movie was okey but I like it cause he ended together with his first love.
So he killed a true vampire does that make him the strongest human alive and the strongest servent after his death or something like that.
I'm sure he is very strong but there are servants who are stronger lorewisr, Siegfried, for example, killed a dragon and an army by himself.
Lorewise*
You have some things confused.
By "true vampire", I assume you mean True Ancestor, who have some of the top individuals in the whole Nasuverse in their numbers. However, Roa isn't a True Ancestor; he a Dead Apostle.
Furthermore, this is the Fate timelines' version of Roa, who isn't as powerful as his Tsukihime counterpart who was on par with Dead Apostle Ancestors. So he's weaker.
So in short, no: killing Roa doesn't not make Dantes "the strongest human" or "the strongest servant".
Killing dead apostles is something the executors do a lot so no and there are bigger feats than killing vampires, if he killed tsukihime Roa it would be more impressive
@@MrYoyoshi9 Also this.
This one is in my opinion much more cooler then Angra Mainyu, sorry but having a Servant with a Shirou body is just not interesting for me.
By the way I love his design
He reminds me of Junko Enoshima and Makoto Naegi from Dangaronpa
He is Nagito in disguise
@@zetsub0u115 Now that I see it, he does look like Komaeda
Edmond's character artist is the person who designed the DR cast
@@zetsub0u115 oh god no not again.
Does he eat Monte Cristo sandwichs at Chaldea?
Waiter give him some coffee please
I like him! He's pretty cool in my book, And oh my god! Michael Roa! :o
Funny Vamp Arc Yeah so Edmond vanquishes Roa on FGO's timeline. Crazy.
@@otakudaikun Very crazy! I didn't expect that.
Funny how Edmond already looks like an dangaronpa character
And his final words to rowa (idk if I spelled that write) is “DESPAIR”
Same artist.
I will wait and hope for his next banner
Until February...or if you are extremely lucky.. in the paid gatcha with ALL the limited servants.
@@setsunakyuuki4369 Well, then you have a lot of time to save some SQ. The problem is that there are many tempting banners/events:
-BB event with BB and the alter egos. (do not remember the name of the event)
-Both Gudaoh.
-both summer events.
-Epic of remanents.
-Nerofest.
-Sherlock Holmes.
-Ereshkigal.
Just to name a few, so...stay strong.
Attendre de esperer
@@tonyinfinite5174 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Good answer.
I really enjoyed this, thank you for making this, Edmond was my first SSR so I was really interested in hearing his story, Keep up the good work
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I wonder how Alexandre and Edmond would interact if they were both summoned in a grail war.
Alexandre: "Hey, Bro... I know I made you suffer in my novel and all but how about we forget about that and start new. I know this cool strip club in Snowfield!"
Edmond: "FUCK OFF ALEX!"
Also, to quote a Robot Chicken sketch which describes this version of his story perfectly:
"It ain't accurate but, it's cool as sh*t"
You know why I’m here.
Gotta do my studying before I play him in TL.
The whole Roa thing was crazy since it implied he killed him permanently
In the FGO timeline he does.
I love randomly meeting him throughout the story of FGO.
I love this story I actually watch the 2002 movie when I was little and it was one of my favorite movies then when I was in middle school I saw the book In the library so I read and of course loved it then years later when I'm play fgo they announce Edmond as a servent they made me really happy and excited
A good video on my favorite Servant! Thank you, thank you for including Golden Boy in your outro, and have a good one!
I hope DW releases Heidi...
haydee
I love this so much! Thanks for making these series!!! I'll make sure to share this to my friends
FranKey AdeL Thank you^^
Make sense why he is an Avenger here in Fate Grand Order. But in the original material, he also rewarded those people who helped him.
Thank you Daikun, ive been waiting for this for a long time, you now what they say “wait and hope”
Edmond??? Hell thr count of montecristo is my favorite book ever!! Funny how the story resemble the movie rather than the book.
Orsy Velasquez That's fascinating.
yeah it is in the movie Montecristo where he takes Faria's place in the sack to scape, in the book he uses the tunel they both dug.
of course no vampires or super owered priests either lol
@@trajano777 Ummm, no no. That's not true.
Faria and Dantes planned to escape using a tunnel, but Faria had a stroke and that got delayed, and the hollowing wall they dug got filled in and erased their efforts. Then when Faria dies does Dantes swap the bodies and hides in the sack.
My source is the book; my own copy, of course. That I've read.
well i have not read that very recently so i might be mistaken. may as well give it another read.
Edmond Dantes, the story of kind young man journey into becoming one of the most famous avenger in history.
This deserves an anime waaay more than any main fgo story singularity
6:10 I recognize that picture on him Michael Roa Valdmjong that he is a antagonist on Tsukihime in the Near-Side Moon routes.
... yeah. Like, he mentioned him in the video.
I wonder what an interaction between him and Napoleon would be like in Chaldea considering Edmond was sent to Château d'If because he was framed as a supporter of Napoleon.
FINALLY!!!!! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE THE ARTURIA VIDEO!!!!
Behold, the King of the Cavern!
Two of my best husbandos in a row ! Thankyou!
I still haven't finished reading the book though
Yay! I was waiting for this video!! It was amazing!!!
Awesome video Dai! Will you do a lore video on Sakamoto Ryouma when he comes? He seems pretty cool! Peasu! Peasu!✌️
Daily reminder that he pops out of your head to watch you sleep occasionally according to the interlude.
Edit: and its not only him, according to Dantes' interlude, Nightingale occasionally watches you sleep as well. If I'm not mistaken Void does the same thing too...
Heinrich Dethahal As in void Shiki?
@@otakudaikun Yea, her bond 3 line. She tells you that she's unable to sleep due to what she is, and that makes her feel lonely. Then she explicitly says that being able to see (your) sleeping face makes up for it.
And since you don't share a room, that pretty much implies that she ocassionaly breaks into your room to watch you sleep, as does Dantes and Nightingale.
Edit: Chaldea is starting to sound like the setting for a horror game doesn't it?
Edit2: Also Void Shiki mentioned that she wished to be able to appear in your dreams but isn't able to, which funnily enough feeds back into Dantes' interlude a little. Since Dantes has been actively keeping foreign supernatural interferences out of your head (servants included) while you slept.
Heinrich Dethahal Chaldea is just wacky.
ten minutes in and I can see why people said Natsuki Subaru from Re:zero would get along with this guy. ...once the whole "COULD YOU STOP DYING/REWINDING THE PAST" hiccup is dealt with.
i learn a lot of thing about Edmond thru this video. Glad i have him :)
My favorite unit finally gets a video! Woot! Best avenger.
Interesting Avenger class Heroic Spirit !
Never heard of him before but as always good video Mr. Otaku Dai Kun.
Thank you once again!
"Smashing that notification button like it your favorite waifu!" Ha good one!
OtakuDaiKun, love your fate lore videos. They are amazing and give me info on servants backstory. Keep up the good work. One request, can you do a Antonio Salieri one. I've been seeing pictures of him and I wanna know what's up with him. Thank you
Stay tuned for a video I publish today on March 5th that mentions Salieri in regard to Mozart.
Me and my friends are huge fate fans! We absolutely love watching your videos to learn more about the characters. I was wondering if you could do an Abigail William's one...? I absolutely love abigail.
This made my view on my first high tier Avenger I got in FGO even more greatly admiring. These views on different Servants are awesome!
coming back to this to prepare for his arrival in the summer banner
Watching this after Ordeal Call II: Id, "Avengers' final story".
Dai btw by the music u chose i think another Avenger would run wild ;)
16 years in the prison would break most people but Dantes drive for Vengeance kept his will strong through it all he might have broken slightly at the start but meeting the priest and such probably gave him the push he needed to take action
My 2nd most favorite Servant in the franchise is this one.
The mages and agents rained there spells and weapons on them ritsuka stared them down.
"You know,your right about one thing. I dont have servants anymore. Well. Ones under contract anyway."
"What the hell are you talking about you 3rd rate excuse for a mage!?"
"Well. Wanna know a secret? I had an friend in high places watching me. And it was no normal servant."
Ritsuka mouthed a few words. Atendre,et esperè. Wait and hope.
The mages and agents began catching fire as black, soul ending flames hungered and devoured the foolish magi. The count walked out of the blaze unharmed smiling.
"I see my help is needed as ever my acomplice?"
"Yeah. I dont know if we can take the acociation but i dont want to stick around. Think you can help?"
Dantès smiled.
"My acomplice,i escaped the greatest prison of all time. This will be childs play."
To be continued..
Pewdiepie recommends the book about him recently. People are saying it's very good book recently also.
Pewdiepie actually reads books?
@@otakudaikun Yeah lol
wait what? edmond dantes fought roa valdamjong?
seems the count will be relevant again when tsukihime characters debut in fgo.
he has an epic backstory that links both tsukihime and fgo . that neat too bad i kinda dislike his design.
Ehhh, not quite. The Roa Edmond fought was the Fate verses version of Roa, not the Tsukihime version.
Parallel universe you know.
The Dead Apostle Ancestor that Dante killed is from Fate version not the one in Tsukihime.
Beside the 'vampires' power is weak is an era where the Human Order reigned supreme unlike in Tsukihime universe where the Human Order is nonexistent.
Holy crap I did not expect Roa from Tsukihime to appear in Edmond Dantes lore video
Edgemond Dantes
Who else came here because of the Melty Blood trailer?
Just me?
No, there were a few lol
Question, where did you find this lore of him fighting roa? It sounds very interesting, and I would like to read it myself if possible
That's a drama cd
What spooky said, it happened in a Drama CD. So good luck finding that.
If it's only listening a Korean you tuber did an upload last year so onlt use search and u'll hear
Not sure why but his story is always compelling
man, he's like the batman of the nasuverse. It would be wild for lasengle to collab and give him a batman costume for holloween.
I love this servant he’s my favourite on my list number one
there goes my quartz for someone who doesn't even bother to come home (maybe bc i have BB and i used her to bully him i guess). anyways, looking forward to the next fate lore
Love this servant since the first time I saw him during the solomon temple arc in the eight singularity with the dragon witch and amakusa That was epic
I've read his book, and it doesn't explain why he can travel between dreams and shoot beam with his hands lol
Um I'm guessing his Fate/Grand Order story is very different from the book....
That's what it seems like.
What sets me off is while all the servants look towards the opponents during battle ... he looks backwards and that’s seen even in the command cards
Idk it’s kinda unsettling ...
Great video tho 👍🏻👍🏻
Yay thank you for doing a lawyer about Edmond Dantes
Can you make a video for Solomon's lore ?
I couldn't summon him on his last banner, but I hope I have better luck on the next one, whenever it is down the road. I just love his character and how he is a cold man, but still carries a part of the kind person he was, no matter how far from a good man he thinks he is.
Why are these priest so durable?
sean ibarra Holy Church don't fool around lol
I heard he also has a Noble Phantasm which hides his true name and parameters from others.
I love Edmond Dantes story :D
Cool to have Nagito in FGO.