HOW TO GET YOUR HORSE SOFTER IN THE BRIDLE - (Thoroughbred Horses) OTTB Series
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2021
- Today we are riding Mowgley!
This week he has a new hurdle to overcome.... but it is towards a good way!!! He is now taking the contact more consistently, but he is now often against the bridle. (previously he was mostly behind it)
Alicia explains that even though this moment can be not pleasant, it is ok to have the progression look a little messy as you go!
So join us today where we show you what to do with a horse like this.
We show you what to do with a horse that avoids the contact. He either sticks his head in the air like a giraffe, or tucks his neck in. We are going to show you how to fix this. You'll learn what things matter, and what things don't on this journey to contact.
All will be answered in this video!
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Geez, I wish my trainer told me "contact doesn't always look pretty" because I actually stopped riding my boy because he was doing THIS, up down, out, connect ...and repeat! I was scared I was gonna cause him kissing spines ...thinking he was hollow all the time. I'm gonna start from scratch with him again and PLEASE keep these videos coming because it will be my guide with my TB from now on. May God bless you. Really, really thanks!!!
So glad the videos are helping you! It is great when you have an "ah ha" moment, good luck with your horse and keep us posted x
I love it how you show stuff not just on experienced horses, but also on green horses. I find those just as helpful, if not more. I also love it how you shed a positive light on the "ugly" and "bad" aspects of training a horse
Happy to help!! xx
You are brilliant ! Thank you thank you thank you! Please keep these coming !!
I am watching cause ii have OTTB having the same problem this has helped a lot I have to laugh cause ugly riding is what we have been doing love you so much
I've been dealing with the same issues on a horse I've been working with recently, so thank you so much for making these videos!
Happy to help! xx
No one has ever explained this to me so clearly! This is what my boy does too so now I know how to work on it and take the next steps to suppleness. Thank you so much!!!! It's so good to see a horse at this stage.
Thanks so much for the feedback Heather, when Alicia makes these videos she really aims to show the process transparently and I am so glad it can help you with your horse 💕
Cannot tell you how much I'd love to meet you and have you help me and my horse!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻
This video has really helped me to understand how to get Jack connected. Will try this tomorrow!! Thank you - LIGHTBULB MOMENT - BOOM!!!!
YAY!! Tell us how you go x
I tried moving my hands out instead of going along with the instinct to pull back when my horse would pop up out of contact and it worked! I was able to get longer periods of true connection. It was AWESOME! thank you soooooo much for your fabulous instruction.
Sounds like you are having great success! Go you!
I have watched this series in the past but really helpful to go back & reflectvon now, thankyou Alicia. This is just the sort of signs I'm currently seeing in my horse as she struggles to move from free reign or bitless riding to the new ways of dressage, being asked of her! You clearly demonstrate the steadiness required, during all the head movements & how all the manoeuvring can gradually lead the horse into taking the contact. It's inspiring to see we're on the right track, & to just keep on going! I love when I fast forward in time to see where Mowgley is up to now, & there just how far he's come using your system!! We should we one step closer each ride, hopefully!!! Lovely video, love this series!! ❤❤❤🐴🐎🙏
Thank you so much Benita! :) Love that you were able to watch this again! :)
Very informative. Great to see the progress of a young horse and especially at TB.
Glad you enjoyed it! xx
Another awesome video. Thank you so much Alicia. Mowgley is really going so nicely
Yes he is!! Thank you!! xx
You are putting SO Much work into this horse - and sharing your journey really set an example WHAT it takes to take an OTTB to their next career.
Wow - amazing!! Thank you so much!!
Mowgley is looking so good!! He seems to be progressing so well and is a quick learner. This really motivates me to get my 4 y/o OTTB going! We've been doing lots of groundwork, but I'm ready to get back on her soon and do some light rides. Loving this series! Thank you for your knowledge :)
Yes - he is and we're all excited!! Can't wait to hear how it goes for you!! xx
This was SO helpful to see! Thank you! He's transforming before our eyes, lol! Absolutely lovely :) (ps- your red boots are ADORABLE, who makes them?) God bless!
Thank you 🙏🏻 Alicia's boots are Petrie from Divoza in the Netherlands x
@@YourRidingSuccess Thank you :) ...you are always so amazing at responding! It's very much appreciated!!!
I discovered this video at exactly the right time! I finished watching it, went to the barn, and had the most fantastic ride on my mare that I've had in a while. Wish I could have videoed it. I got a Pivo for Christmas, so as soon as I learn how to use it...thank you so much!
That is AMAZING!!! So glad the video helped you so much!
So helpful seeing these videos, I've just started with my OTTB aswell, its an inspiration and such a helpful guide to understand what to work on with him now. Thanks guys! :)
Glad it was helpful! Let us know if you have any questions with your OTTB as you go along! x
Brilliant video. I've been struggling to work my ex racer properly but since watching your progress form videos from the beginning with this beautiful boy, my mare has come on leaps and bounds! Your tips are amazing and are easy to follow. They work amazingly on my tb!!!! THANK YOUUUUUUUUU 😍😍
Super job!! Great to hear this xx
Another useful video for me starting alone! My dressage instructor said my horse is too wired and he’ll never make a dressage horse! Hence why I’ve sought these videos! My mission is to prove him wrong!! Hahaha
Go for it! :)
Amazing Alicia you have just caught on camera whete I am with my mate. I feel far more positive knowing this is normal but they are connected. I need to do more turns etc to make her use her hind legs and be more supple rather than just going round the whole arena. Great thanks
So glad it is making sense, let us know how you go with your horse.
Thank you, just what I needed, back to basics!
Glad it helped!
Yay!! Well done Mogi 👏
Thank you 💕
Wow hes come sooooo far from the first video i saw of him in such a short period of time!!! You can really see his potential developing more and more and becoming not just potential anymore but reality!
Yes - soo exciting!!
Wow some really nice moments in there 😀🙌🏼 I would love to come and meet you - I just love the way you are able to communicate the aids, the banana analogy has helped me heaps with my horse who has been is blocked ( most likely by me lol ) leg yielding to the right. - now we are really getting it quite nicely 👌🏼🙌🏼 loving what you are doing here 😘
Hurrah!! LOVE that this has helped you so much!! Can't wait to hear more about your progress xx
This is so helpful, he is doing so well!
Thank you!!
Once again thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You are so welcome!! xx
Ohh I really needed this one!! Thank you 😘😁
Perfect! xx
Great explanation ! Very helpful thank you
Glad it was helpful! xx
this is so good for me and my process, thank you so much!
You're so welcome!
Another great vid! 🙌
Thank you!! Please tune in for more great content xx
I enjoy your positivity.
Oh thank you! 😘
great video, thank you
You're welcome! Glad you liked it! x
You really help me!! My boy is talented but Im stuck in the contact struggle and know its because Im not positive with my hands, I want to cry with frustration, my boy is super forward & we get caught in the struggle but I can see I need to work in a smaller circle area and work the laterals..Ill watch the Scale of training & all the OTT 300 times more to absorb your technique...Huge thx from Australia
You got this! Tell us how you go! xx
This is great...his trot's really getting a good rythm . I can see the leg yields clearly and understand how he's taking the contact. So love your enthusiasm, so happy.
Absolutely! Thank you! x
Yes !!! Thank you for this video !!! Thank you !!
You are so welcome! xx
Great video!! So “real”
The head movement looks just like a mare I ride. Really excited this will help us understand and improve this.
Go for it! xx
Love it!
Thanks!! x
Thank you so much for giving us these impromptu moments
Thank you to your camera person as well!
Alicia thinks it is the best way to show the full journey for you!!!
YES!!! We appreciate the filming team a LOT!
HELLO! I am first yay! By the way I love your channel ur so amazing at riding! Thank you so much for these videos too they are so helpful and you explain really well! ☺️💜💜✨
I’m not sure if I’m completely first but one of the first :))!
You are soo welcome, Alice!! xx
@@YourRidingSuccess OMG thank you for replying 😄!💜
Im hooked!
Super!! I'm glad you like it!! xx
You both are are so AWESOME 👏🏻 job 🥰
Thank you!! xx
@@YourRidingSuccess 🥰🥰🥰
He's a super cute horse! 😍 he's going to be 👏
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for doing this video so helpful my pony is at this stage 😁
Perfect! Can't wait to see how you go!! xx
I love this 😻 this is the stage me and my horse is now 😹thought I don't want to push him to walk too high with his head yet but when he enters contact he goes againt the bit like this and he is just like this horse when I change direction or tell him where to go 😹
Thanks for watching! Good luck on trying this out on your horse xx
Looking good
Yay! Thanks 😘
So nice you are showing also these steps, loving to see him progress like this.
I do have a question on this subject, in your case he throws his head up, what if he would really heavily go down with his head. Is it still activating the hind legs and getthing him to be more supple bij turning and doing baby leg yields?
Thank you! Good question, try not to think of it as a bad thing when the horse goes down heavily, this means he is seeking the contact but he is also going down heavier on his shoulders and forehand, so the horse is not balancing as much as it could on its hind leg. Try to be balanced yourself as a rider, work on circles and exercises that help the horse make the body shorter and carry more weight on the hind leg. Good luck! ✨
I trained a horse in dressage and never used a round pen. Not even an arena... She won ribbons as a jumper. It took sensitive hands and sensitive movements ......and fun nature rides in between.
Sounds wonderful, well done x
Thank you sooo much or your videos!
You are so welcome!
He is so ADORABLE 🥰
Thank you!! 😘
@@YourRidingSuccess your welcome bestie ❤️
Oh to be thirty years younger! He really finds the left to right direction change difficult.
That is right, he struggles a bit more to the right so when changing to that direction it is a little harder. With time and practise with the suppleness he will get better in that direction x
Beautiful❤
Thank you! 😊
Good reminder. I have a young guy who is right at this level.
Thank you!!
I vote for voiceovers in the future! They are better quality and easier to understand imo :)
Thank you for the feedback 💕
Trying to build enough confidence to take my boy to arena WITHOUT my husband. He listens to him, not to me... Lol
I'm so happy he is doing well!!
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This is so helpful I have started suppleness and collection with my 3yr old and watch this it is so helpful thank you.
So glad you are finding it helpful with your own horse and you can follow Mowgley journey as he is also a young horse so very relevant for your horse 💕
Always helpful, thank you. Question, at what stage do you want him before you introduce him to the indoor?
Good question! We are lucky that we have a quite big round yard so we can ride in there and change direction happily. So before riding in a bigger area Alicia is just looking to have enough steering and suppleness that she can safely help Mowgley navigate a bigger area.
Fantastic video thanks very much 😊 May I ask what bit you're using x
Thank you 🙏🏻 just a basic loose ring snaffle with a double join in middle ✨
your fantastic. anyone thumbs down . get a life your bitter and twisted .
Thank you! x
Another great video. Do you give private lessons?
Thank you 🙏🏻 for information on lessons you can contact us on support@yourridingsuccess.com
I saw Georgie behind😍😍
Good spotting!
You’re doing great with him Alicia! I’ve noticed though he’s so fussy with his head, have you had the bit lady out or tried different bridles? My horse completely changed for the better when I changed these things. Just a thought x
Thanks so much for tuning in! He has had his bridle and bit ensured they fit xx
Thanks again for a great series. My green OTTB interprets my attempts at leg yield as a request to go faster. Do I try solve this by turning a smaller circle & trying to whoosh the quarters out (as you said) in a smaller turn? I don’t want sacrifice the rhythm but I want her to be more supple & less like a plank.
Super question! Yes you can use a smaller circle to help xx
He looks great! Was it hard to get him so forward?
Hi Betsy, not too difficult once he was more supple, there are a few considerations, one is helping him with your rise as you see Alicia rising faster to set a new tempo for him. Then using quick aids and not nagging him and the suppleness in his body which then allows his paces to be to their full potential and be free.
Awesome to see 🤩
Are you putting your weight to the little bit of the banana when you use your weight to help you turn?
Thanks guys!
That's right!!! 💕
@@YourRidingSuccess love the banana! Thanks guys 🥰
Loving the raw footage! It’s so helpful to train my eye as you describe what is happening! I can then watch my own vids and really see what’s going on with me & my horse! So grateful for you!
This video is so helpful! I see so many similarities in my OTT. When I do the figure 8 with my horse, on one rein he is connected but on the other rein he falls out and turns his head and neck in and I lose connection in my outside rein. I often find myself over correcting through the rein as I’m trying to use the train track concept. Should I be be doing a squeeze and release on that outside rein and then leg yield inwards to help rebalance? It like the banana becomes too bananary ( it’s that even a word?!?) and has too much bend! I hope that makes sense! I end up using my outside leg a lot to stop him from flying out the side! Also another question. Would you tend to use spurs instead of a dressage whip?
HI there!! REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS!!!! Okay so yes absolutely it makes sense that his banana is too much one way, this is very normal and if you look at Mowgley he is too much banana to the left and Alicia spends a lot of time making him more banana to the right and less to the left. You are right in your correction but try to think about what part of the horse is falling out and it will be his shoulder so you need to use your rein to correct the shoulder. You can use some counter flexion if you struggle to keep his shoulder on the train tracks. You can also spend some more time on your circle to the right so he becomes more supple looking in the right flexion and bend in his body. Spurs can be better than a whip as you want the horse to respond to your leg not the whip at the end of the day xx
@@YourRidingSuccess thank you so much for your fantastic help. The right rein is so much better than the left . I’ve found this week that by doing serpentines and semi circles , he really supples up 👌👌and balances out that tricky left rein 🙌🏾🙌🏾
YAY!! So glad it helped!
Wonderful video! I have a question though.. Riding an OTTB now - she basically leg yields on her own very often on circles in trying to avoid riding the circle I want. :D any advice on getting her more relaxed so she doesn't do that? (I've also seen other OTTBs for example jumping and they travel in a sort of sideways way to the jump.. so that's it..) Thanks!
Hi Sylvie! So glad you enjoyed the video! Super question! We have passed this along to Alicia and our team to review for you x
Hi Sylvie! If the horse is going sideways, what that means is that the horse is very crooked. A basic exercise might just be riding around on the wall focusing on keeping the horse straight on the wall and then moving on to adding on some simple figures such as a shallow loop off the wall, 20 m circle, go across the diagonal and making sure you can keep the horse between your hands and legs evenly. Think of the shoulders as train tracks that the horse needs to always be following. Hope that helps! x
@@YourRidingSuccess Thank you for your answer! Appreciate it. I will definitely try that. :)
Hi I have got my horse long and low for a year power is coming from behind what is the best way to get him to come up in front you explain things brilliantly
Hi Robin! Super question! We have passed this along to Alicia and the team to give you some advice on next steps! Watch this space for an update x
Hi Robin! Update for you - This is a super question! Alot of people struggle with this same challenge. What I always say is not to think about the neck. Think about everything from the shoulder to the hind. Remember you can't control the hind end, you can only control the shoulder but somehow you have to bring the shoulder and hind leg closer. To get him up in the neck you actually need to bring the hind leg closer to the shoulder using things like shoulder in , leg yield etc. to a point where the rib cage shortens. That shortness is what pushes the shoulders up and the neck will come up with it.
Thank you very much I will do that
Thank you for the advice from you and your team it is working a treat 👌
What are the demention of this round pen looks perfect for training.
HI Melanie, I am not sure but it is bigger than normal and perfect for being able to do some riding in before moving to the arena
How long does it take to bring a horse into the collection???
You are so remarkable inspiring 💕🧡💕💕🌈💫✨♥️♥️🌈🌈✨💜💜💕🧡🧡🌈🌈
YAY!! Thank you so much!! xx
@@YourRidingSuccess your welcome bestie 🥰🥰
My 13yo gelding rides exactly like this
Hopefully you are finding the videos helpful?
can't wait to see him hacking!!! So exciting to see him learning.
Did you catch our latest video? All about preparing Mowgley for hacking czcams.com/video/18JNmz2NGwI/video.html ✨
Hello, I would like to know more about what rein signals you are giving him, are you half halting, squeezing and releasing at certain times? Thanks!!!
HI there, could you tell me in which exercise you would like to know this? When turning? x
@@YourRidingSuccess The exercise when he's learning how to take contact.
Ah! That is a small leg yield on a circle
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Nice dressage boots!! 1) Are comfortable dressage boots? 2) how many hours you wear dressage boots? 3) Why you have two pair of dressage boots?
Hi there! Yes dressage boots can be comfortable but they are harder on the outside than other boots so take some wearing in! Alicia only wears her boots while riding as this keeps them lasting longer - the more you wear them around while not riding the quicker they wear out! Alicia has more than one pair so that each pair can "dry out" between riding as the boots being wet is what makes them wear quicker, also Alicia has a pair of black boots which are just for competitions!! Great questions!
@@YourRidingSuccess 1) Why the boots are wet between riding, you sweat with dressage boots? 2) I imagine when you have done to do riding that you can't wait to take off dressage boots or not? 3) Are comfortable dressage boots for walk? 4) It's possible ride car with dressage boots?
Sometimes the boots can get wet from sweat (especially in summer) or even just walking around on a damp surface or hosing the horses off after riding - if the boots do not dry out between the leather stretches and stitching etc can rot. Not always rushing to take them off! When the boots are new they can be more stiff and not as nice to wear but after that they are comfortable to wear. We would not suggest driving in them - from a comfort and safety point! ✨
@@YourRidingSuccess What problems could give of safety and confort dressage boots when you drive?
are you opening/closing ur fingers throughout? ik you’re doing the leg yields and opening your rein but what are your hands doing? pulses with the inside rein or are you strictly pushing him with your leg into a short rein
Hi Jinae! Thank you for your question! We will get back to you on this one x
@@YourRidingSuccess thank you!
Hello Jinae! Thank you so much for your question! Try watching the YT video on leg yield and it would show you specifically on leg yielding on an educated horse and how that should look with your aid. And remember, with the uneducated horse, your opening the rein to show the horse where you want him to go. And the open rein mean that he can fill up that gap and get a better idea of where he needs to put his body. And your rein aid for moving the shoulder should be a push not pull aid that's diagonal. But check out the video on how to do leg yield and that will give you a better idea as it's already on an educated horse.
My guy will do the same thing with his head. Now that I know what that means a can better provide him with the rewards and answers.
So glad the videos are helpful for you 🤩
What size is your round pen arena?
I am not sure sorry but it is large, we are very lucky x
I'm wanting to change my bit - a cheap loose ring linked snaffle I got when I bought my mare. What bits do you tend to use? My ex racer mare is constantly chomping on her bit and she does the giraffe thing a lot and sometimes twists her head and neck and tits the nose the the left. I initially was stopping her when she did that thinking she was uncomfortable, but now i wonder if she has learned to get out of work by doing this.
Great question! A great starting point with snaffle bits is a basic loosering snaffle with a double join in the middle. Most horses do well in this bit, often the issue is not the bit but the connection. Have you learned some tips from this video and previous OTTB videos to help with connecting your horse?
@@YourRidingSuccess I have yes but perhaps I need to watch again and watch at the stables immediately prior to riding her.
Anyone clue on the type of bridle and bit she’s using…
Do you ever travel to other countries to give lessons? ☺️
Hi there, if you would like some more information about lessons and education you can contact us on support@yourridingsuccess.com
What about an off the field Polo Pony next time?
Thanks for the suggestion! There are many different breeds, the OTTB is a very common breed people train for dressage after warmbloods so we started here x
@@YourRidingSuccess Well, yes. My suggestion was for the next project, not a comment or critism of the current one. I've retrained a polo pony who was (polo) stick shy so would never be any good on the field. They bring about a different challenge to OTTBs but viewers would see the rehab process is essentially the same.
What is Mowgley's breeding? He looks so much like my mare, and she looks like her grand sire Kayf Tara
He's a thoroughbred
Sanow Siri yes I know his breed but wondering about his bloodlines...eg mine has Saddlers Wells and Northern Dancer...she’s out of Lucinda Lamb and by Haaafd
We are not sure sorry! 🤩
The audio quality went back to bad.
Thank you for your feedback, did you find the audio hard to hear or too loud? And did you notice for the whole episode? We are always working to improve the quality of the videos so we appreciate the feedback. Did you think the audio in this video is improved czcams.com/video/4StQrKsygkA/video.html
@@YourRidingSuccess on some words it’s a little loud and it get kind of blown out. I understand needing to speak louder when you’re instructing someone. I guess I could describe it as grainy as well. That video you tagged definitely sounds better, some parts get a little bit blown out.
Maybe if the mic was put somewhere a little farther away? So you can talk at your normal volume, but it doesn’t get blown out.
Thank you for taking the time to listen and provide feedback! We are trying some new things with the audio and will keep working on it, sometimes Alicia's voice sounds different when she is riding around on the horse compared to standing still also.