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i dont use keycaps im typing on the switches
😭 Nice
bruh same lmao i actually dont use the keycaps
brutal
what a legend
Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb
Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad
"It seems almost impossible to spend this much money on pieces of plastic"
...lego sets...
...Anime figurines.
@@CaveyMoth or just figurines in general, they cost like 1000$+
Gunpla but the engineering is amazing so i shill. Maybe someday i will afford an PG set.
@@Chester200100 slowly staring at pgu rx-78-2 that I wanna buy
@@enriquemunoz6415 Cries in not having 300 usd to spare
this is a brilliant video
you make brilliant videos
You actually do WATCH EVERY video of keyboards xD , your skit wasnt lying damn .
@@RealOxygentv fr, I'm obsessed atm
@@Glarses and i watched all your videos
lmao you’ve got me into custom keyboards i’m on my way to making my own now lmao tysm for making me spend unholy amounts of money on asthetic utensils
Somebody get this man a pointer so he stops marking things with his nice pen
Or maybe just suck out the ink
@@HentaiNat slurp
I thought he was writing on the keycap to demonstrate something.
It looked like just a normal pen you get for $1
Custom legends
"can cost as much as some cpus or GPUs"
it's alright i'll just use integrated graphics
Hell yeah
Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.
I have a weak PC cause that's all I need.
As a person who swapped out pudding keycaps for matrix keycaps, I was wondering why my keyboard sounded so different. Thank you for this video.
Yeah the Matrix caps are much better than the Pudding ones.
Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.
Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.
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Hey JDTechGear
I needed help with Anne Pro 2 keyboard (60% keyboard):
I need a Portuguese keyboard, but doing so I lose the functions on the side of those keycaps.
So my point is, where can I got to, to order custom backlit keys, in Portuguese, backlit but have the side functions on them?
Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.
So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.
@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.
I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...
@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.
Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.
"As it seems almost impossible to spend that much on pieces of plastic". Cries in WH40K
It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't need music to be engaging. Great work, man!
This is really fantastically narrated, thanks for putting together this video for us! You did great👍
Also what set of keycaps are y'all rockin? All sets welcome here from $0 to expensive ↓↓
GMK Mizu for me.
@@jonathanstone8553 I wish I picked up Mizu. Perfect blue colors. And also wish I picked up 8008 as well.
@@MrVC Those were my first caps that I bought that weren't stock
A month late but GMK red samurai and GMK olivia on my two main keebs
Second-hand Leopold stock keycaps:v
i love "actually the entire of this hobby require a lot of patience"
just, true
I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.
EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.
excellent video, straight to the point and toned down comfortably
A long needed explaination, and a nicely executed one. 10/10
Damn! I feel like my knowledge of keycaps seriously levelled up in under 10 minutes! Super informative video JD!
Thank you Rita! I'm glad it could be followed without getting too technical 😅
preach
Same
Got myself some $30 dye sublimated PBT keycaps. The japanese coral sea. Fucking love them. I'll take the aesthetic of them over the $200 GMKs any day.
JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.
im poor
Bro you're so good at talking
I am mesmerized, subbed instantly
Amazing video 👌 do you have any plans on covering pom keycaps in the future?
I'm getting GMK Umbras in 2021 and I wanted to fully understand what makes them so good ! Thank you for the video
Legend says he's still inking the insides of keycaps till this very day.
It's how I prototype novelties
I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together
Send pics on discord when they come in
@@jdtechgear I'll be sure to! I'm hoping for them to come within the next two weeks
@@Jdroo20 Did you get your keycaps? :)
This was super helpful thanks!
Very well put and a educational video, thanks !
beautiful summary right there, you've just earned a like, nice vid
Additional point: Profile. Most boards use OEM but I've seen a few with DSA. I haven't seen boards with SA caps stock, so if they're your thing, it's aftermarket only.
you deserve so many more subscribers with this quality of videos
I don't use keycaps or switches. I short the key wirings to send an input.
I’ve done so much god damn research about plastics after going through a few sets of caps. U touched on a lot of good points.
I thought that PBT spacebar with the lattice on the inside was familiar... the VA68M that it came with might've been hot garbage but they certainly knew what they were doing when they made a nice spacebar.
I plan on getting some cheapo ones from amazon initially so that i can actually use my first board, but upgrading to GMK as soon as possible.
Great content. Subscribed!
I got a blue switch TKL keyboard for free. Thin shinethrough ABS keycaps.
When I build a proper board, it'll be with thick PBT DSA profile caps.
The uniform profile is better for typing personally and for compatibility. And it looks and sounds more premium at a decent price.
Great info and excellent video :)
What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.
That group buy thing sounds like dlc season pass in gaming
What about the sounds that certain keycaps make when typing? Are there materials of keycaps or differing shapes and thicknesses that sound different when typing?
Whoaaa. It is you! You're the guy that did the Batman Parody mouse review.
Extremely informative. Thank you.
A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)
I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference
Excellent video and useful information.
Thanks for the lesson,. Keep it up
So does high quality, double-shot, mocha espresso, ABS keycaps mean no shining like standard PBT keycaps?
Thanks for this, I always thought PBT was the be all and end all of key caps.
The shining on ABS you mentioned is pretty accurate, I've had my keyboard for like 3months now and I can already see some shining on my keys. That's pretty much how I figured out that I have ABS key caps lol.
What a great video and I learned a lot. I just made an expensive mistake and bought the Logitech G513 GX Blue keyboard and disappointed that the secondary characters are not see through. Do you know if there's any nice keycaps that I can swap out, that has all characters see through?
Maybe lookup taihao keycap sets from mechanicalkeyboard, its priced quite cheaply and i believe is doubleshot abs mostly. Doubleshot are usually backlit-able, tho correct me if thats wrong.
Wow i didn't know the differences between different types of keycaps from manufacturers. I just bought a keyboard that was a collaboration with wasd keyboard and jtk ketcaps and it came out to 250. I bought it because i knew doubleshot pbt keycaps are rare to come by and supposedly last forever but now there are different manufacturers that offer doubleshot keycaps. My question is how good is jtk opposed to gmk? Thanks in advance
JTK from what I hear is pretty good quality, I haven't used them myself, so I can't speak on it's behalf but the general consensus is good for the money!
Great Vid! Thx! I'm currently looking for nice blank keycabs for my ducky one 2 mini with iso de layout. Any recommendations? Would be much appreciated! 😁
Just out of curiosity, why do people want blanks?
And there I was thinking that waiting 2 weeks for a pair of split keyboard PCBs is a long time.
you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible
dose anyone know a set of PBT key-caps with transparent legends that would be compatible with the layout of the corsair K95 RGB i like the feel of the PBT caps on my DAS Keyboard but there blanks and i need the extra macro keys on my K95 for work
The amount of times he said keycaps...
Gonna need the link to that Metropolis keycap set.
IMO, the best modern keycaps are on Leopold keyboards. THICC doubleshot PBT. We all know why we like THICCness, the doubleshot lettering means it will last forever, and the pbt is SIGNIFICANTLY less prone to shine than ABS. The build quality and legends are superb
They do have two drawbacks: 1) Since they only make them for basically one layout (Their different board layouts is just some sort of cutdown version of their 100% layout), compatibility is an issue. And 2) they don't come in many colorways. But if you don't mind those things, I highly recommend them
I wish whoever made the keycaps for Leopolds would sell sets of these keycaps, with additional functionality and colorways
Domikey and tai hao are both good. Some interesting bow Jian coming I have a good feeling
what about pom keycaps, for example the ones made by esc keyboard, what is that compared to abs and pbt?
Can’t believe you didn’t method Signature Plastic, they are famous of SA profile.
@JDTechGear Great video. Can you please tell me what the keycaps are at 6:30.
ePBT Olevetti I think
I’d love a comparison video of the GMK Laser and Akko Neon keycap sets.. I love the look of the laser, but the Akko looks solid for the price. Tons of additional options and robust colors
Definitely, some would go far as to say that the Akko has better quality.
@@mechros4460 I definitely wouldn’t go that far, I had warping on a spacebar and a bunch of caps were missing chunks. It was a nice keycap set but definitely had its flaws
@@Praxtra_ seems like the quality is pretty inconsistent. Some people have great sets and some people have a lot of warping issues. Also the font lettering is inconsistent on some of the keycaps (modifiers, enter).
Are Tai hao keycaps any good..i just hopped into the keyboard space
So do all these pros actually increase the price to manufacture the key caps enough to justify these > $150 price tags? Or is a big chunk of it the “premium” and “limited edition” feel
Dsa magic girl is the most colorful, prettiest keycaps ive seen. Wish they were 2mm thick though
Can anyone help me out? I'm searching a gray, white or black (or any of these coloures mixed) full sized keycap set with white black or gray good visible letters because I dont want the LED light to get thru them these lights I have just dont look good (I can turn the light off tho) .. I have been searching one for 2 hours but cant find anything... if one of you knows a website on wich you can search for a set like or just a set that looks like my description pls tell me :)
very well done video. thanks a ton.
I'm still quite confused - i get the limited availability part, but for the other parts how is it possible to be so much more expensive? it's just thicker and colored plastic that is manufactured with more precision, but its still small pieces of plastic?
Like it doesnt make sense that it costs the same as a decent cpu. Or do you think that the limited availability is the main reason for the price? Bc that would make sense for custom keyboards too
A multitude of factors. The Novelties/Colors and more are R&D'd for each set. It's a big upfront cost to a kimited group buy.
Where did you purchase your custom cable from at 6:09 if you don’t mind me asking?
I made that one!
I joined my first GMK group buy last week and am now waiting on my set of GMK Nightshade!
dont worry, theyll be waiting for you next year.
@@alex99x99x oh ik, I bought it for my Christmas/New Years gift 😂
I contacted the designer of the Apollo set, he said there’s currently no plans on a second run. He’s focused on new designs.
Nooooo. I need my gray set. Modern Dolch it is
Been trying to find key caps that only have kanji but only found a few.
to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any
Yeah this is also true. There isn't as much support for ISO layout from what I've seen.
@@jdtechgear seems KAT kits may be a good option, they are slowly poping up. maybe more will come out with the GMK wait times
the hardest thing about buying keycaps, is finding a set you like the legends, colors, thematics, and how it all looks as a whole, i couldnt care less about abs and pbt and stuff like that, but i cant seem to find any keycaps that i like, and i dont know where to look, amazon is limited to maybe 25 keycaps, and banggood the same, and most of those look too flashy and weird
Having all the preferences met is definitely tricky. Sometimes it depends on my mood haha
The only thing I hate on my stock ABS keycaps is it is a finger grease magnet. I had to clean it one a week or twice a month.
Thats when you reached the shininess the lubey keycap so yummy i want to lick
Maybe this will help me explain to my friend that a $12 keycap set from aliexpress is worse than a $12 spacebar from matrix
To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.
planning to swap my logitech g610 orion keycap. im just wondering does every keycap fit? especially spacebar
First check whether your keyboard supports cherry MX stem since most keycaps uses that. Next check how many spots it supports but for most keyboard it is the same. Then also check the space-bar length. They uses u, as in unit, to check a length of a keycap. 1u is equal to 1 normal alphabet key. In case you are worried, just get a packet that has multiple variation especially the enter key
Wait...
I just watched a video about key caps...
What has this lock down done to me
There's a big community for keyboard enthusiasts
You should look for artisan keycaps, they're very expensive but beautiful. Usually people use them on the ESC key.
You will be horrified to learn that most of us have been enjoying custom keycaps long before pandemic lockdowns ever happened
It’s made you a man of culture.
hey bro, what’s black and red keycaps on this video? 6:19
and to think I bought the RK61 for just $35
man I been lookin for some ISO-portuguese keycaps layout since forever
On ali express you can find G-MKY keycaps and Maxkey/Domikey keycaps, same quality for half of the price and always in stock.
Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though
I have 3 gmk sets. I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of them.
I think a typing sound test of comparison would complement your explanation better.
There isn't a notable difference in sound besides some acute differences. Sounds is mainly affected by case, sound treatment, switches, stabilizers, and plate material.
what was the cap set at 6:38?
so doubleshot ABS won't shine overtime, but do they match PBT on that end?
As far as I know any type of ABS will shine over time
what set is that at 5:15 ? if anyone still sees this :)
Great production quality.
Also the narration is awesome, very nice to listen to.
But for the gods sake man, stop making marks on the keycaps with that sharpie :)
Anyone any thoughts on Ducky Pudding keycaps?
Any recs for the best keycaps around 50-80?
AKKO!
I looked for the metropolis keycaps that were in this video and was disappointed when i saw they were sold a year ago smh
I have a keyboard with a 5 pin jst connector internally with a usb output to plug into PC, is there anyway i can convert this 5 pin jst connector into a usb c so i can have a detachable cable or like be able to connect those cool detachable cables like you have
I haven't done it myself personally. I believe there might be a solution on the internet as I would like to do the same thing to a couple of keyboards I have already and give them a detachable cable. That's why I'm always searching for a Type-C detachable keyboard. It is very important for any keyboard I buy.
@@jdtechgear thanks for the reply, very scarce info on the interwebs about it
Probably late but you can check Pexon PCs, a small company based in the UK for those. Just choose the filco termination that the site offers during customization of whatever type of cable you choose to buy. You can find a video of how this works by searching "Pexon cable filco" on youtube.
Can you show us what keycaps work on a ducky or is it just ducky keycaps ? I’m new to the pc scene
What you're looking for is CherryMX style keycaps.
I love how monotone the whole videos was
Nice
Me too, I'm just here to deliver information
It's my favotire. I'd rather not adjust my volume if he gets too quiet or too loud.
0:45 What are those?
Prolly one of the prettiest minimal colour combination of a Keyboard Cable I've ever seen.. by SummitCables? Zap?
Those black aviators + the blue
I made that cable from parts bought off of Zap, came out way better than I thought it would!
@@jdtechgear You have pics or video featuring builds with that cable? Can't seem to notice any on your CZcams channel
@@KelvinTan133 sorry I never saw this man, I might try and make a video of it if you like or a build stream of sorts
@@jdtechgear Yo man. That'd be sick. More and more keyboard enthusiasts are booming up everywhere.
Should grab the opportunity sir. Would never know your view count shoots up like wild.
I honestly don't buy the price justification. I just got a 15 SA profile PBT set which is doubleshot and they feel amazing. They're super thick and rigid and have a nice colorway. The lighting shines through the letters but really slowly fades on the bottom which would be the only issue, but it's not very noticeable and definitely not worth a price increase of 50 or even 100 euros.
have you ever owned a set of GMK Keycaps to compare them to your PBT set?
@@Jackpotur Why do he need to? He's good with his keycaps, that's it.
So ur not a sneaker head, ur a kb head
What are those keycaps at 6:30 I've been looking for a colorway like that for awhile
Those are ePBT Olivetti. They're mostly in stock keycaps
Thanks you so much
@@jdtechgear Are they any good?
What about resin keycaps
Thickness, anti fading, anti warping are pretty much the only things I look out for. After that, its just personal preference of the design
Best places to shop for good keycaps? TIA!