2008 Honda Civic - Cheap fix for leaky (noisy) power steering pump
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Whine in power steering pump when cold. Due to excessive leakage from O-ring seals on pump and subsequent emptying of fluid reservoir. Details on how to swap out the two O-rings with new ones.
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thanks for the video. I did this repair and it worked. Here's a new one to add to your tricks.... Next time you have a hard to reach O-ring that won't come off, touch it with a nice hot soldering iron. It will melt in half. That's what I did. It was nice.
Great idea! :D
Thanks for posting this. Helped me to do it myself. What worked best for me was removing the cowl and pulling both hoses up through the engine bay do that I could easily replace the O rings. I then reattached them from below through the wheel well.
Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Good video. Just replaced the o rings on mine. So far so good. Had to look at this video to see what I would be getting into. thank you!
What size o rings
This was very helpful. Thank you so much. On the 03 CRV it's easy because the pump is right on top, but now I have a civic and the engine bay is CRAMPED!
Great fix. This is the proper way to do it and the best video of how to. Thank you
Brother I just finished replacing the o rings like ur video illustrated...it freaking worked!! 😁...I basically loosened the the part with the two bolts and big o ring and let the power steering fluid drip out a completely.them I replaced the big black o ring but didn't tighten the part yet n it was a pain in the ass getting the back bolt which is 10 mm.I used my husky flex bend ratchet and it saved my ass for the back bolt.You can buy it at home depot.$34 bucks but so worth it....My o ring was blue( big one) from the auto store.then I took out the side one closer to the engine and it was one screw.i took it out and saw it did not have a o ring.so I put the smaller o ring( red)but also received a black one that the steering pump kit I bought on it and tighten it good .then tightened the two bolt part back in.I used the 10mm socket 3/8 for all 3 bolts.Obviously the power steering pump resovoir was empty due to me draining it in the beginning and filled it back up.filled it to the recommended line on it and it worked! No more noise😁thank u so much brother ..I owe l u a 12 pack
Awesome!! :D
Back in the day, my Honda dealership fixed this for me (under warranty) by swapping out the entire steering rack. It would have been a $2,000 job. Crazy!
Great video. I really like how you show how to position the wrench; that is something so many other productions don't do. Thank you for the great video.
Noticed a fluid leak when I changed the oil. Could not trace it but changed out the power steering o rings. No more power steering fluid leak. This Civic has 145,000 miles. Still going strong.
i literaly have the same mileage and same leak issue.. i found that it was right where the o rings is.. hopefully this week i change it... any info on what you used to take it out (tools) if diff from video? and was it the same method as the video?
Thanks bro, temporary fixed same problem on civic, hope it could last 9 years more. lol
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So how is it?
Thank you for this video! It helped me with my daughter’s car.
very helpful! I did find that I was able to get to that upper bolt with no problem at all, just using a deep 10mm socket, 1/4" drive. I got the lower O-ring off by squeezing it with my fingers, making it easy to slip a pick underneath and pull it off. My upper o-ring must have fallen off because I could never find it :)
The o-ring was inside groove in the pump....
I couldn't find the orange o-ring either. Must have failed and came off. That was the leaky side. Replaced both
Yea same, I’m doing the job right now and to my surprise the orange o-ring isn’t there
@@asbodo32 I just changed out my sister-in-law's leaking hose on her 06 Civic, I found the low pressure hose was the leak culprit and I also couldn't find the old O ring, it wasn't on the hose that plugs into the pump and I felt around and couldn't find it in the screw hole so I hoped the orange O ring was the right one-crossed my fingers and went for it - no more leaks....success.....
@@tonyjordan1320 wow great. A few days ago, I went and did the low pressure hoses and pipes complete plus new o-rings just incase and 4 days in and it seems as though my fluid level is the same and hasn't went down, fingers crossed but I think it is fixed
Great idea. Mine has 345K miles and same problem. Leak and cold weather whine.
345k, wow you have driven a lot of miles. I only have 84k on the 2008 civic
345k miles-damn and you are just now having the PS leak problem? The car gods have been very good to you....
Great video! This is the problem I am having. I can't get that top bolt off! Or the other line, 1 bolt! Going to wait a day, and try again tomorrow! Great video!
For the u-joints, I use a piece of electric rap it around the joint and it will make it easy to access the hard to reach tight spot, and will keep the u joint stiff.
Awesome guide thanks man. PS Pump been leaking for months, and discovered these O Rings need replacing! Im gonna try to DIY, so wish me luck.
I have high hopes it will work for you. My son's civic hasn't had a single issue with his power steering pump since I did this o ring swap, and that was 4.5 years ago. :)
@@DoctorFixMaster I just used your video to fix my sister-in-laws civic...the low pressure hose was the one leaking so that's all I replaced & it worked!!!! I learned just what you meant by hugging the axle and the brake rotor..LOL...
Thanks DoctorFixMaster. Just replaced both O rings, hopefully now I don't have any leaks from now on!! I want my 2009 Civic to last me at least 300k miles lol
You the man ty for this video helped me tremendously
I am going to try this job on the weekend. Thanks for posting the video.
Thanks for this information, no more leaks!
I call O-rings gaskets all the time. Yes, some people take offense to that in the auto world, but if you know the context of what you're talking about, they're basically interchangeable terms.
Lol the correction noises got me 😂
Thanks, I had fun experimenting with that. :D One guy called me out on it and said it was irritating and loud. I guess you just have to have a sense of humor. :D Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! For the record, there was a TSB relating to this, 06-020, where the inlet elbow on many '06 cars were manufactured out of spec and caused premature leaks, so they recommended replacing the elbow along with the o-ring (and clamp too). The part was revised some time after the TSB, so there may have still been issues with the original replacement part. I wonder whether it's worth also replacing the elbow with the revised part on newer cars when doing the O-ring.
revised elbow: 56123-RNA-A02
Great info. Thanks! If I have any more trouble with this, I'll check out this new part!
a 2006 civic coupe ex uses those same o rings? Thank you for a very clear video.
I know this is a yr old, but I just fixed my 06 Civic with these O rings and it took care of it.....
I went to my local dollar store for a pan, sold out, I was walking out when I passed the aluminum throw away turkey pans, a dollar each. Heck yea, fold em up and toss em when done, no cleaning.
I like it
Great thanks very much
The camera angle and lighting is perfect lol I could barely take a pic to send to friends lol
Is so easier than i think ❤
This guy spends minutes talking about the dumbest things but when it comes to important things like how he took everything off and on he just speeds threw it, un F N believable
Says the guy who can't spell "through". In spite of sharing very helpful information to thousands of gracious and grateful people, there's always some whiny crankpot who just wants to bitch and lash out. That says more about you than me, my friend.
Good Work!
Thank you!
Happy to help!
Thank you for the video advice. My power steering reservoir seems to be always covered in power steering fluid, beside leaking all over. Do you think possibly due to bad "O" rings, the air is being sucked into the system and creating foam inside the reservoir? I've noticed that when I check the reservoir when it's hot, there seems to be lots of air bubbles. Also, is it possible to get a small cordless impact ratchet to break the 10 mm bolts? I'm having troubles with a socket and box wrench to break them free. Thanks!
I've never known any electric device that generated enough torque to break loose frozen bolts. You just need long breaker bars for that, but once they break loose, electric devices are great for bolt retrieval and loosening/tightening. First you need to determine if the fluid level is normal. If there isn't enough in there, it isn't beyond possibility for air bubbles to come back up and out. With a normal fluid level, that should not happen. If it happens anyway, that would indicate something severely wrong with your power steering pump. Any o-ring leak that was severe enough to allow that should be spilling fluid all over in your garage as well.
Wow didn't know you could get to it from the tire, I removed the cowl piece and leaned over the motor, replaced both rings, but my input shaft seal leaks too, pffft. its way slower but no satisfaction.
Does anyone know which o-ring is typically responsible for this leak?
It doesn't really matter. If you're going to the trouble of getting in there, you might as well do them both at once.
@@DoctorFixMaster oh for sure, just curious which o-ring was the culprit
Hey, I’m loving the tutorial so far! But I’m having some trouble reaching the further of the two hoses on the pump. I can reach the closer hose bolts but I can’t seem to maneuver far enough to the second. Is there any advice you can offer to help me get past this?
I'm afraid I have nothing to offer but what I demonstrated in the video. You have to maneuver a u joint socket up in there with the wrench occupying whatever space that will allow it to move to break it loose. With those u joint sockets, it helps if you can hold on to it while you torque it to keep it from flopping around so it delivers a good twist to the bolt.
DoctorFixMaster I ended up getting it after putting the vehicle on a lift. After that it was far easier to see what I was doing
ty im about to do my car, i need to see for the universal joint im not sure i have it, nice on the recommended tools
easier then i thought. did not need the angle thingy...
Cool. The angle thingies can be a major pain in the butt. :)
This was the worst job I've encountered so far while working on my daughter's 2007 civic. Did the ball joints before this and ball joints are way easier and not maddening like this job.
Sorry to hear it didn't go so well. It's a tight squeeze getting up in there.
Thanks.👍👏🏻
Where do I get the replacement o-rings?
Go to 10:04 in the video. Part number are there, and you can Google search those for vendor results.
Muito bom esse trabalho
Thanks for the video but man was that a pain in the a$$.
After putting the o-rings on does the noises stop immediately or does it take some time?
After you replace the o-rings and ensure that the fluid is at nominal levels in the power steering system, the effect should be immediate in quieting it down. If it doesn't, you have a more serious problem.
@@DoctorFixMaster alright thanks I did replace and fill the power steering back up to the line and I can barely hear anything. Thanks 🙏🏾
Hello, mine is having the power steering reservoir bubbling a lot (and spilling on the floor from the top of the reservoir) and just now I have a noise when steering. Will this fix my problem or I need to replace the pump?
Impossible to say without taking it apart. If some other seal in your pump or your pump housing has cracked, it will obviously have to be replaced, but if you start with the procedure I've outlined and it does happen to be the o-rings, you've saved yourself quite a bit of money. Good luck!
@@DoctorFixMaster Thank you sir, now I have squeezed the P/S reservoir cap completely shut with a nylon bag. No more leaks from the cap but still a boiling effect. Is this normal, should I still be worried?
@@primavera919 There should be no bubbles boiling up in your P/S reservoir. If new o-rings don't fix that, you'll need a new P/S pump.
@@DoctorFixMaster alright thank you sir, I will try to do this fix myself. But in the video I didn't see the location of the second o-ring?
@@primavera919 There's no way for me to show a better angle on it because it is so tight in there. My best suggestion would be to find a parts diagram of the power steering pump and take note of the position of it that way. Then you can feel for it up there where you can't see it very well. It's there. You just need to know where the bolt is that you can loosen to free it.
Hello sir my honda civic was leak on power steering reservoir..how can i fix it?
This video is just one of many possibilities, but its worth a look. It's a common fail, so it might be your issue. Good luck!
If you unhooked the hoses why wouldn't you just pull the pump off the car?
No need to pull the pump off if all it needed were new o-rings. Pulling the pump off makes it a bigger job.
@@DoctorFixMaster I'll take your word for it.
@@steveradanovich4962 :D
On my 2006 Honda Civic LX, I have removed the 1-screw connector and the orange o-ring...but my replacement (91345-RDA-A01) is much smaller than the one I removed; the new one is 13mm and the one I took off is 17mm. Did you have this issue, too, and just stretch the replacement to fit?
No, I didn't have that problem. Do not stretch o-rings that are too small. It will leak if you do that, and you'll do a lot of work for nothing. You'll have to do some kind of investigation to find out why your 91345-RDA-A01 is not original equipment for your car. You have to have the right part or it won't work.
Thanks, @@DoctorFixMaster! There appears to be a glut of wrong-sized kits on the market. I'm going to try Dorman's Power Steering Pump O-Ring Kit, p/n 926-157. Its specs match the O-rings I removed.
Thanks for the informative, helpful video!
@@rangeratdan did the dorman o rings fix the problem ?
@@kevinzeron408 yes, an exact fit
Did you not drain the fluid first? How much fluid came out when you disconnected the hoses from the pump?
I did not drain the fluid first. I didn't start with a full reservoir, so the amount that came out was less than that. In any case, the fluid isn't terribly expensive, so I would recommend just putting some kind of catch basin below the hoses to catch whatever comes out when you disconnect them. It isn't a lot as I recall, probably around a quart or so.
@@DoctorFixMaster Great, thank you for your quick reply.
Mine did the exact same thing you described in the video. But my power steering reservoirs full,?? Now the power steering will cut in and out while I'm driving lol is it the pumped or the 0-ringd?
If the reservoir is full and you don't have leaks on your garage floor, your pump is probably going out. :( Make sure your belts are tight to spec.
Can I use the 3/8 ratchet or does it have to be the 1/4 ratchet? I don’t have that size!😩 ive used the 3/8 on the back jose with one bolt. Haven’t tried the other hose yet.
My only guideline is 'whatever works'. A smaller 1/4 ratchet will give you a tiny bit more wiggle room, but if you can get a 3/8 back there, go for it.
Thanks for the video. Just a minor suggestion, the text indicating that they are o-rings is more than sufficient. The loud "DONG" noise (which is CONSIDERABLY louder than your voice) is unnecessary, and after the first time, rather obnoxious.
The filename I gave it is 'hammer_donk'. I thought some cartoonish noises would liven it up a little. Comic relief. Sorry it got on your nerves. You're the first that cared enough about that to comment on it.
Ok why is it suddenly even funnier now?
It wouldn't be that bad except that the audio was kind of quiet, and so I had to turn it up quite a bit. Then I get the loud "DONK" sound. First time was funny, then after that it was like, 'ok, that's pretty loud!'
I'll pick a different sound or no sound from now on. I don't want it to be annoying. :) Thanks for the heads up.
Np, good luck with the channel!
Thanks for the video. Did your power steering pump make noise when you turned the steering wheel all the way to one side? Were there bubbles in your power steering reservoir?
My father's 8th Gen Civic doesn't have any of those symptoms but sounds louder than usual all the time. It doesn't get louder when making a turn. It's just a consistent loudness.
I didn't notice bubbles in the reservoir...just that the reservoir was dropping too fast, and the fluid ending up on my garage floor. The noise was pretty consistent no matter how hard I turned the wheel. Swapping out o rings is a good, cheap 1st attempt, but if the noise continues even when the reservoir is full, and you're seeing bubbles in it, it might be time for a new power steering pump, unfortunately.
DoctorFixMaster Thanks. We'll give the O-rings a try first.
The Yeti did it help?
Did you drain the power steering fluid first?
Nope. It was pretty low already anyway, and I'm not sure there is a drain plug or any means of doing that cleanly. If there is, please post it. That would make the job a bit easier and less messy.
How much was the fluid cost at Honda dealer ?
I dont remember, but I'd order it online where you can shop around for the best price.
I feel like I missed a step somewhere. When I tried to do mine, the power steering assembly is still blocked by a bunch of stuff. Is there one more thing that needs to be dropped to get to it?
It should be just like this if you're working on the same car. Maybe the Si model is different? If you have unclipped the plastic clips and moved that plastic cover out of the way like in the video, you should be able to get enough access to do the job.
I agree Miguel. I made an attempt as well and could not get access to the part. Not really sure how he did it.
Oh man, I change this fuc*** o'rings, but the leak continues!!! OMGGGG, I tested a lot of rings (original too). I need something diferent, alternative. Help me!!!
Take heart. Mine leaked just a little bit at first too, but once those o-rings soak up a little fluid, they sealed up nicely and I haven't seen any drips or drops since. Keep wiping off the excess and keep it clean, and there is a decent chance that it will seal up. Good luck!
Did you get it fixed ?
Hello friend,when you buy the ring??
I'm not sure I know what you're asking. Can you be more specific?
Did anybody else come across having no O Ring in the smaller hose. I felt around with my finger and I couldn't find anything. The elbow piece sat at an angle after tighting.
You get a good look at both of the o-rings if you watch the whole video. Not a good sign if you don't see any o-ring there already, but the fix is to replace them or install one if it's missing. There should be an obvious groove where they both sit in the hose connectors.
When I removed the top hose, the o ring stayed seated in the power steering pump. I removed it with a pick. No groove for me on the top hose elbow. I put the new right on the top and inserted it, then tightened down and it seemed to seat where it was supposed to.
Will this put fluid all over the back of the engine? I have oil all over and know its leaking power steering fluid. Just trying to make sure I don’t have something else going on. Guess only way to know, is try one thing at a time.
If your seals are bad, you can leak power steering fluid from the pump. All over the back of the engine? The transmission filter is back there. If the hoses on that crack, you'd have an oily mess. Best of luck!
DoctorFixMaster not low on transmission fluid. Looks good there
DoctorFixMaster plus this fluid is really clean looking
DoctorFixMaster are you talking about power steering interior seals or the o rings where the hoses connect?
@@seabass22 Either of those could produce leaks if they fail. If what you're seeing isn't power steering fluid or engine oil, or transmission fluid, check your brake fluid reservoir. It has to be something. That's a pretty good candidate if it's clear.
My fluid doesn’t leak but the “humm” is there always. Could it be the O-rings?
My hum was due to the lack of fluid. That was corrected when I topped off the fluid. The o rings didn't have anything to do with the noise, but new ones corrected the leaks. There will be a certain amount of normal operating noise, but that definitely increased when my fluid leaked out and got excessively low.
DoctorFixMaster Ya then I think I’d need to replace my whole pump. It’s weird, my civic’s only 50K mile driven and this is happening.
@@hamzam.9815 If it has plenty of fluid and is still making loud or strange noises, that's probably what you're looking at, unfortunately. That does seem too soon for a steering pump to go out.
hello sir, i have Honda civic 2011 4 door.i saw a oil leak under the steering pump.i went to mechanic they just see the leakage and told me to replace the pump and also my steering wheel is hard to turn.if the leakage happen means why the steering oil cane not empty and i can see there is oil on the steering cane. please need your suggestion. i make call to Honda spare part shop they said the pump cost 1000 dollar.i am screwed up.
In that scenario, I would first top off the reservoir with fluid and give it a test. If it isn't hard to steer and its not making any strange noises, then what I described here in this video is likely your problem. If you top off the fluid reservoir and you are still having issues, I'm afraid you probably will have to replace your pump. Good luck!
70 bucks on eBay, just search the Honda part number
@@mrFalconlem If you buy that pump for $70 bucks you will be buying another one within a yr.--guarantee it.....
I just need a pair of O rings? Correct?
That's more or less it. It's a troublesome job, but the parts list is short.
DoctorFixMaster
would you please share the o-ring spec?
thanks
I don't know any of the specs on the o-rings, but at the end of the video you can see the Honda part numbers for those. From those you should be able to look up the specs on them, in case you were after some equivalents that weren't original Honda OEM parts. Since they are just o-rings though, its easiest to just pony up a few bucks to get these. You might also find the specs in a factory service manual (which I don't have - they charge a whole lot for those nowadays). Good luck! :)
Is there anyway to do this if I don't have jack stands?
Possibly. You might get away with a single jack on the one side. Only you can be the judge of whether that will give you enough maneuvering room to get it done. The trouble with Civics is they are already so low to the ground. You have to crank the jack pretty
high and torque the frame to make enough room to get under there. That's why I prefer the jack stand solution, and also because my hydraulic jack is a little bit leaky. It doesn't stay up long, but the jack stands solve that.
Thanks for the quick reply! I bought a couple of cheap jack stands and will attempt your method using the stock scissor jack to place the jack stands. Got the O-rings for $1.61 and $1.91 from the dealer so if this works the fix will be well worth the jack stands. I noticed the leak while changing my oil and was initially convinced it was oil. Traced it to the P/S pump which is coated in fluid. My fluid is below the min marker and I did notice bubbles after turning the wheel back and forth. I may also attempt to replace the AC coil/clutch while I'm in there. I can't tell you how much I appreciate youtubers like you who make these projects do-able for somewhat mechanically inclined but generally clueless individuals like myself. The amount of money to be saved is incredible with a bit of research, some help from folks like you and a Saturday afternoon. You should consider setting up a Patron account so folks could throw you a few dollars if you saved them a few hundred.
Do you know how much is it?
I don't remember exactly. Just a few bucks for new o-rings. That's it! :)
How can I order the parts needed or the o rings ??
Look for the part numbers at the very end of the video. They are on the two bags I show. Just Google those numbers and several options for purchase should show up. ebay, Amazon, etc.
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Do you need a bleeding after all these?
People with leaks report bubbles in the lines, which tells me the fluid circulates pretty well and any air that gets in there should escape through the fluid reservoir. I also don't think there is any kind of zerk fitting for "bleeding" operations like you find on brake calipers.
Part number plz
Go to the very end of the video. Part numbers are there.
Thank you. quick question, will this part fit 2010 Model?@@DoctorFixMaster
@@anthonyinit The 8th gen civic ran from 2005 to 2012, so those should fit a 2010.
That's a good news... appreciate you taking time to reply. :)@@DoctorFixMaster
Drink some water man. I can hear the dryness like no other lol.
You got that right. Since the leukemia diagnosis and the stem cell transplant, my mouth has been like the Sahara. You wouldn't believe what the doctors did to my body to give me a second chance at life. I sound like I have a mouthful of mac & cheese, but it sure beats being dead. :)