Are You Using Too Many Audio Plugins?
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- čas přidán 12. 12. 2023
- In this episode the guys discuss the plight of having to many plugins. Do you already own an arsenal of plugins that can get the job done? How many eq plugins do you really need? What plugins are essential in having a great base to start? What plugins haven't been created yet? Lets find out?
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Devonn should start calling himself the pro tools pioneer cause he be knowing all the shortcuts in his daw he never give himself a name and Courtney might as well start calling himself the Ableton assassin cause I was listening to his song hot wings and man he killed that beat with no mercy
I think Courtney has used Ableton Assassin before. Pro Tools Pioneer is dope
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nah he’s the pro tool , simple
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I second that! Well put 🤘
WE NEED A LOGIC USER GUEST ON THE COUCH!!!!!
As far as vocals are concerned, it is challenging because it is the one instrument we know inside out.
That being said, if we want to get good vocals, we must get the fundamentals in order.
A good room, good mic technique, a mic that has a frequency response that compliments the vocalist
Well performed vocals, capturing vibe, pitch and good timing.
Before mixing, cut the all silence pieces out, silence pieces, Kan introduce extraneous noises. after this is done, make any timing corrections that unnecessary, ensuring your BPM is set, and you can hear the metronome. After that, perform manual pitch correction. After that, use clip gain automation to level the vocals out. At this point, you should be able to press play and not hear any pitch time or crazy dynamic anomalies
Do that, and vocals suddenly become much easier to mix
I be looking forward to y'all's videos every week. Watch em while I work out so when I get home I hit the stu. Y'all are one of my motivations for why I continue to do this, thank you!
I think the vocal plugin they were referring to is Xvox/Xvox Pro
Thanks for everything you're sharing to the community, i've learned so much with you and now I finally can share songs with a mix that I'm proud of. Keep going you get all my support
🔥🔥🔥🔥bless y’all for doing this. When I was starting out making music everyone was in for the self, no one wanted to help. you’re helping so many people , artists just by sharing your experience. Bless you again 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Congratulations on 200,000 subscribers. This podcast is one of my top 3 podcasts to watch.
XVOX PRO is dope as hell as an all in one vocal plugin!! I love it!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I dig it too
Love the energy guys! ❤
Dope pod guys!! Here for the gems 💎 and 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
love the show n the vibes 🍄🔥
Love the show guys I stay tune every show
Big fan.. I love this podcast and your videos Devvon 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dro is a Goat! I had the pleasure of working with him. Very unforgettable session! Shout out to him!
I currently sub to both Slate Digital and UAD Spark. Love them both!
That nuro plugin is dope. Like seriously the sound that come out of that thing is amazing
Agreed! I did the demo and was like, yo!! Had to cop it.
Agreed! Got it on black friday
“Help your yourself Devvon” 🤣 I’m dead love what yall doing with the pod ! Shout out Dev been watching for a few years learned a lot of mixing good videos super comprehensive and easy to watch 💯
@HMD Rosetta is mad bro love it @Devvon keep doing your thing... I’m working towards getting the HMD compressor can’t wait to try it out 🙏🏾🎧🎹🍷
Let’s go! You guys are killing it! Wish those plugins were integrated with mpc. They seem perfect for the look
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Rosetta eq is too good! I’m sure the compressor is just as dope!
Studio one users in the building
Full of gems. Keep it up!!
I could definitely rock with Courtney’s bundle choice!
Courtney you got me into the R-AXX aswell as using MV2 at the very end of the Vox chan. Works incredibly well! Also, yeah I don't care for the Slate Eco system
I definitely cut with my eq and de-ess first, then compression, and then boost if needed
Couldnt agree more. I probably only use 20 plugins daily out of the hundreds that I have installed on my computer. It takes a lot for a new plugin to join that number.
I liked this discussion.. I believe everyone has too many plugins.. You guys be hitting some soft spots when it comes to this topic.. I am realizing, less plugins Im experiencing now.. I know that Neve EQ and 2A with some legendary plugin sims, that is really all you need and saturation.. I think sound has gone to something different now days, it's like dang, a 808 is a 808 or snare.. Outstanding show fellas..
I do agree the Slate All Access is 🔥, @25:50 - the DeepMind 12 in nice... and I love it. Fire show 🔥🔥🔥
Super underrated!!
Slate pass is fire and the added ssl is dope.
Had to pickup that HMD Rosetta Compressor, Btw, where the My Audio Nerds hoodies? I needs that! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I love these videos always 🔥 🔥
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This might be my favorite podcast 🔥. I listen 🎧 to it while mixing and mastering sometimes🤦🏾♂️😏. Shot out to PT Devv 🧰 🛠️, FL. Jean 🍊 and respectfully not least, the Ableton Ablebody 🫡
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Everyone always talks about the Neumann mics for being the best vocal mic but when I was in audio school I recorded with 5 different mics including two Neumann mics and the best vocal mic was the Se electronics z5600 a hands down
i gotta keep slate for the vms mic and idk if we count this as an eco system but plugin alliance might have to stay cause the shadow hills compressor and the black box
I’m a live sound engineer and the behringer X32 is absolutely incredible at its price point and has allowed a lot of event spaces and churches with smaller budgets to afford a full featured digital console.
That being said, I recently had the opportunity to run multitracks through an x32 and a Yamaha CL5 (a $25k console) and the difference in sound quality is immediately noticeable.
Shout out to behringer for creating actually usable “entry level” products, but you still get what you pay for.
When you say “run multitracks through” the x32 and Yamaha CL5, do you mean recording multitracks in to your DAW and listening to them back in your studio environment or do you mean running your multitracks from your DAW through the mixers as a virtual sound check and listening back in your PA?
Ozone Exciter is something crazy ! For saturation it’s Decapitator but Black Box parallel bus
Decapitator is the 🐐
Black box is so underrated
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I just started using silk and I actually like it and for cats who couldn’t afford certain plug-ins it’s a W. Also it’s freaking free lol Black Friday was also great because UAD gave away there La-2a away and ozone dropped free EQ which is clutch.
Finally a podcast for me 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Izotope and Waves gotta stay for me. Nectar and mv2 are a must for me. And waves parallel particles is still great for parallel sends. I use other stuff of course but izotope's transparency and speed is untouchable in my opinion. FL gang too btw🤘
(low key i owned a behringer mic500usb which is a tube powered usb interface woth compression. I hate that its actually a good piece of gear 😂 even as a tube preamp only for instruments its decent)
🔥 Great Episode!!
I will say that Silk Vocal has replaced a few plugins in my chain for cleaning my vocals but that's cuz I'm not recording in the best environments. But I agree that it's not necessary. Xvox is also not necessary but it's cool. If you don't already have an all in one for vocals, it's not bad if you got it on sale
Xvox Pro just dropped and I’m pretty impressed by it. Not only is it good as an all in one but it can be split apart and used as individual plugins.
🔥🔥🔥 THAT SILK VOCAL IS A GAME CHANGER‼️‼️‼️ 🔥🔥🔥
the main thing that would make me say fabfilter is saturn 2 literally one of the best plugins of all time. so undervalued when i say i could do a whole mix with just that plugin, apart from space fx like reverb, i really mean it's that good.
Fresh air on a shure sm7b vocal is literally my forefront. Any other plugins I’ll change here and there but that fresh air plugin is something else!
I love pro q. I only have Pro-Q 2 but I stopped using it on vocals just because it’s nice and transparent but sometimes I want the eq to lead with a different color. I have started to step away.
Waves and fabfilter for me. Waves has been pivotal for my mixing career and before I had my blessing. I would watch hours or tutorials to prepare myself and most of the time it was a fabfilter plug in that I was learning from. So itstthisentwo for me
Really excited for the SMD Rosetta EQ update. Heard it’s blowing the competition out of the water 🌊
🔥🔥🚒 Need dat Rosetta fr fr
i use waves mixhub and run vst's thru it while mixing singing vocals to cut down using too many plugins on one channel 4 max all waves and autotune if needed as chains
that's a great move i be overprocessing a lot when mixing vocals, it's best to work with limitations
I really shouldn’t comment this because I’m saving it for the first episode of the new show but: That high end trick is how I mix my two tracks, iykyk. Waves Rack: RBass: F6/C4, Aphex- split the signal. You’re welcomed.
hopefully Jesse ray can get on this pod it would also be nice to hear from him as he mixes for Burna boy in the afrobeat genre. so I would love to his perspective on that.
Compose and build in fl and I track out into protools and mix and build up
Im here every week 🔥 🔥 🔥
Minimal plugins are easy with great performances in studios, but as someone who mixes live and performances aren’t always the best, sometimes more processing is necessary. Minimal is under 3 plugins from my perspective.
Currently running waves & Slate ! But I’m probably keeping god particle too 😂
OK now maybe it's not the greatest example cause I'm definitely not on that level of recording but recently I bought myself UAD Sphere LX Mic. I love it so far but not entirely for it's emulations. I'm using the emulation plugin as a mixing stage and the results are incredible. I'm finding myself doing two very VERY gentle scoops on EQ after that and basically leaving the rest of my chain as it is, which is suppose to emulate the hardware vocal chain. What it got me thinking is that it may be true, that if You nail the recording, You pretty much have it all mixed by itself. On the other hand - I can't imagine me having this huge knowlegde of knowing before hand what mic to use on what part of the recording, how close or far to record and what angle to set the microphone to get rid, or boost the high frequencies.
can you talk about reference applications like Sound ID and how usefull they are
rap vocals need compression first (auto tune first if using) remember compression isnt just for tone and control. its also for time/feel and bounce against the instrumental
Firee vid guys🎉
That Waves dig tho…👀😂.
Rosetta EQ for the win!
I just started recording. I wanna know how to mix and master everything. What order should I watch your playlists in?
Nuro Xvox is really good. I believe that is what y'all were talking about on the all in one section.
Slate alone has everything you need with that being said im picking waves next
Plugin Alliance and Waves are my go-to ecosystems for sure. Literally EVERYTHING you need. The Kirchhoff EQ replaced my Pro-Q3. The Black Box replaced my Saturn. Any compressors, EQ’s, and Channel Strips are completely covered no matter what. I’m surprised PA wasn’t mentioned when talking ecosystems.
Black Box and Saturn are nothing alike in my experience. Saturn is far more complex and powerful.
@@django3108 Complex, yes! Powerful, subjective. I like getting more with less and Black Box has been awesome for that. I’ll admit that I still use Saturn occasionally though lol. I use WAY more PA plugins than Fab-Filter nowadays.
@@DderronB27 I find it powerful because of its flexibility, on strict sound quality, I think Black Box is pretty much superior, but it has "one" sound and then a bunch of slight deviations from it
Saturn quite literally has no sound because of how ridiculously flexible it is. I didnt even understand it's full potential for years.
one singular flame. 🔥
The Ableton Assassin with some Nasty takes 😂
I feel like one week Courtney had the baby face and the next week he had a full on uncle grandpa beard/mustache connect
Softube and UAD for me
I had the Deepmind 6 and liked it a lot but sold it for something else. A couple years later I really missed it and I ended up getting the 12. Presets for it aren’t super usable but @Jorb made 3 custom banks on his channel recreating the patches from the Juno 106, JX3P, and the PolySix. I use it all the time. I really wanna see how it sounds with HMD Rosetta EQ Gold Edition on it 😮💨🔥
Love what y'all are doing for the community!🔥🔥🔥
UAD, Waves and Slate/SSL I'm good. I still have 450 plus plugs tho lol 😆 they're worse than drugs..
onispheren in the vocal chaing is crazy lol
Bro. What’s that stereo imagining plug-in with the phase limiter? I cannot find it
It’s called space control !
@@HelpMeDevvon blessssss 🙏
17:14 😂😂😂I swear everytime I see ilok I’m instantly pissed off lol
Slate digital teamed up with solid state and that shit is the best bundle ever
I agree with yall. I think the All-in-One vocal plugins miss the mark. There hasn’t been one that I’ve tried that really blows me away enough for it to replace at least 1/2 of my chain. They just feel like a cheap shortcut for non-engineers
I really like Black Box by Plugin Alliance
🔥 would love any of your plugins 🙏🏾. As a music producer based in Cuba it's hard to buy plugins.
Can't buy them online?
@@gassmaskwoodrow we don't have any of the on-line payment methods. No credit cards nor PayPal so I just use free plugin's
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I need that!!!!
Wsp with acoustica tho?
Master plan limiter is phenomenal but it would be nice to be able to turn it off
Slate coming to come 🎹
Ryan Leslie on the pod would be legendary. Period Studio One Gang in the building 🔥🔥🔥
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Need a podcast video everyday.
25:30 Yeah because of the Midas Pres
Heres food 4 thought...think, b4 digital daws, all the greatest records made were on a desk console, Api, Neve,SSL, ETC..every audio sharing the same color, passing thru the same transformer, and saturation creating " cohesiveness..! If you booked a room and there was a SSL G series console in that room..THATS ALL YOU HAD, then you had your outboàd stuff sure.... I discovered when mixing a song and using all the same channel strip say if its SSL then everything is SSL. FROM FOUNDATION..then ofcourse you can 1176 compressor etc.. but EVERYTHING "GELS TOGETHER WELL.. we didnt use this frankinstein hybrid kind of.. api on drums, ssl on vocal or whatever in the REAL WORLD that created the BEST MUSIC. SONICALLY!
17:10 He on Demon time 😭😭😂
All in one plugins!!! LOL I agree. I rather use 10 different plugins instead of one jack of all trades. I need the best for each area of the mix.
Plz make Rosetta reverb
I love audio nerds so much I listen at work and at home and also while I’ll beat off
drop that oversampling bar fr @lj🤣
Master plan is a beast 🔥🍷🎹🎧
I immediately searched the acustica thing... im sorry
I know people that use 7-10 jawns for drums..We just need a MPC ..
CAN A GOOD MIX SAVE A BAD RECORDING, that's a TOPIC right there!