Awesome video Dino and Oliver. I've been looking forward to this. I've only had a quick look but there doesn't seem to be anything similar on CZcams for the DR650 rear shock. Brilliant stuff guys.
Great video Dino! Oliver is obviously a true craftsman. It always intrigues me what draws someone to pursue a living in such a niche field. He makes it look like childsplay, I guess I'll give it a go. Your channel is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much, Oliver is a Mill Wright by trade and told me that it all started when he bought a snowmobile that needed shocks serviced., Being handy he decided to tackle it himself and now he does it as a business. Super nice guy and very knowledgeable. Dino
That is a really useful video on the shock absorber. I have not had mine out but I know when things are not working correctly. Thankyou to Oliver for his detailed explanation of the workings- I sure learned a few things - one particularly - let a professional repair/re-gas the shock. 😅
Great video, guys. Well explained and I always wanted to see this done. The rebound by-pass adjustment makes sense to me now... You basically only need to control the rate of the spring release, whereas compression damping has to deal with all manner of bump hits, and the washer stack makes complete sense. 🤘🏻
Thanks Dino, I enjoyed the video. I had the same work done on my shock this winter. I had an stiffer spring installed and lowered the shock when I put it back on the bike, also upgraded the front suspension with Race Tech springs and emulators. Looking forward to seeing how the DR handles with the upgraded suspension. Yours is my favourite YouTub channel. I watched your Cyclops LED video last week and ordered one for myself. Anxiously awaiting the next video.
Thank you for the feedback I appreciate it. Glad you enjoy the channel and I am flattered by your high praise. I hope the Cyclops works as well for you as it does for me. Dino
Thank you Dave Joe, I am very happy you liked it and thank you for commenting on the camera work, it was a fun episode to shoot. Oliver was great to work with and is so free with his knowledge that I learned a lot for sure. Thank you again. Dino
Oliver's a tough guy to get a hold of! Three phone calls, an email, and text. Hope he's ok! Looks like I'll need to learn how to revalve, and maintain them DIY style.
The original factory DR 650 rear shock had a way to lower ride height . If your lower the bike you need to reverse the part at the bottom that the spring sits on. Suzuki has a brilliant design to completely lower the bike. The front forks are designed with the internal parts to lower the bike also. I don’t know if most dealers don’t know this or they just take the shortcut by leaving the top of the front forks stick above the top. You can find couple of videos on CZcams showing this. The clymer manual also shows this. This is the factory way to lower the motorcycle.
Performed the lowering procedure this week. Genius. For some heavier folks (anything over 180 is heavy for the stock spring) highly recommend upgrading the spring, otherwise you'll bottom out without that extra 1.5 inches.
Thanks for the question. I am still running stock valving set pretty much in the middle of the rebound. It seems to suit my old guy riding style. Thanks again Dino
Thanks for the very informative video, I know he mentioned what shock oil he uses, but I'm having a very difficult time finding what weight the stock oil is, I assume the Amsoil is 5w?
Stock from factory is 3w shock oil. The 5w Oliver put in would help mitigate the minimal rebound damping from factory. Lots of folks go to 5w or 7w to help with the rebound damping, especially if they upgrade their springs.
@Dino's Tinker Shed what is the black rubber/plastic conical shaped object in the lowest 3rd of the shock assembly on the left hand side of the bench at 14:10 in this video? I cant seem to find that part individually in my DR650SE parts diagrams and mine looks damaged 😢 Amazing detailed video ❤
That is your bump stop, they do wear out over time and should be available separately. You could always reach out to Oliver and he should be able to assist. I belive I placed a link in the description to his email.
You can also remove the seal and bump from the bottom side by removing the bottom mount, I think it's easier. I have a video how I did it. czcams.com/video/w3-j1aUvu20/video.html
The graph at 18:12 is very misleading, showing the differences of O2 and N escape. Most importantly, air is mostly N and not O2. O2 would never be placed in a shock.
Awesome video Dino and Oliver. I've been looking forward to this. I've only had a quick look but there doesn't seem to be anything similar on CZcams for the DR650 rear shock. Brilliant stuff guys.
Thank you so much. I think Oliver is a natural, it's his first time on camera and he did great. Thank you for the feedback 🙂.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed i was just getting over a cold. I apologize that i wasn't 💯
Great videos guys! Excellent instruction from Oliver. I will be contacting him 😂
Great video Dino! Oliver is obviously a true craftsman. It always intrigues me what draws someone to pursue a living in such a niche field. He makes it look like childsplay, I guess I'll give it a go. Your channel is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much, Oliver is a Mill Wright by trade and told me that it all started when he bought a
snowmobile that needed shocks serviced., Being handy he decided to tackle it himself and now he does it as a business. Super nice guy and very knowledgeable.
Dino
Interesting to see the inner workings of the shock. Thanks for this video.
Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad you liked it.
Dino
Thanks Dino for the informative video. I’m just about to go to my shed and check the shock on my DR650 👍
That is a really useful video on the shock absorber. I have not had mine out but I know when things are not working correctly. Thankyou to Oliver for his detailed explanation of the workings- I sure learned a few things - one particularly - let a professional repair/re-gas the shock. 😅
LOL, thank you Mal, ya this is one area that I am quite happy to watch and learn rather than do. As always, thank you for the comment.
Dino
Once again great video. End of summer I will pay him a visit. Thanks a ton
I am sure he will be able to help you out.
thank you for the comment
Dino
Great video. I've changed my valve stack before and it was nice to see what a professional does in this situation.
Thanks for the comment, he made it look easy for sure.
Dino
Great series Dino. I just emailed Oliver and think I might drop mine into him. This was eye opening
Glad you enjoyed it. It was interesting to film it and talk with Oliver about shocks. I'm sure he can help you out.
Dino
Great video! I was looking forward to this one!
Thanks Kelly, glad you liked it 🙂
Thanks Dino and Oliver!
You are very welcome.
Dino
Great video, guys. Well explained and I always wanted to see this done.
The rebound by-pass adjustment makes sense to me now... You basically only need to control the rate of the spring release, whereas compression damping has to deal with all manner of bump hits, and the washer stack makes complete sense. 🤘🏻
It was very interesting Eric, lots of stuff in there for sure.
Dino
Thanks Dino, I enjoyed the video. I had the same work done on my shock this winter. I had an stiffer spring installed and lowered the shock when I put it back on the bike, also upgraded the front suspension with Race Tech springs and emulators. Looking forward to seeing how the DR handles with the upgraded suspension. Yours is my favourite YouTub channel. I watched your Cyclops LED video last week and ordered one for myself. Anxiously awaiting the next video.
Thank you for the feedback I appreciate it. Glad you enjoy the channel and I am flattered by your high praise. I hope the Cyclops works as well for you as it does for me.
Dino
Well done Dino, loved the camera work. And thank you Oliver for showing us your craft.
Thank you Dave Joe, I am very happy you liked it and thank you for commenting on the camera work, it was a fun episode to shoot. Oliver was great to work with and is so free with his knowledge that I learned a lot for sure.
Thank you again.
Dino
Great video! I also was looking forward to this video. Very informative!
Glad you enjoyed it. Oliver was very informative and professional, a great person to deal with. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Dino
Oliver's a tough guy to get a hold of! Three phone calls, an email, and text. Hope he's ok! Looks like I'll need to learn how to revalve, and maintain them DIY style.
That's not good, I have not talked to him since the video. I'll send him an email to see if all is well.
Thanks for the heads up
Dino
Thank you Dino and Oliver! It’s cool to see how a shock works in such detail. Looking forward to learning more about the settings in the next video 😀.
Thank you as well. Looking forward to more skidmate travel as well 😁
Great video, thanks!!!!
Glad you liked it!
The original factory DR 650 rear shock had a way to lower ride height . If your lower the bike you need to reverse the part at the bottom that the spring sits on. Suzuki has a brilliant design to completely lower the bike. The front forks are designed with the internal parts to lower the bike also. I don’t know if most dealers don’t know this or they just take the shortcut by leaving the top of the front forks stick above the top. You can find couple of videos on CZcams showing this. The clymer manual also shows this. This is the factory way to lower the motorcycle.
Thank you for the comment, Yu are correct about the factory lowering. My buddy Karl's DR is lowered this way.
Thank you for the information.
Dino
Performed the lowering procedure this week. Genius. For some heavier folks (anything over 180 is heavy for the stock spring) highly recommend upgrading the spring, otherwise you'll bottom out without that extra 1.5 inches.
Well I don't think I'll be taking my shock apart will leave that for the professional to do.Good educational video showing how they work.
Thank you for the comment, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Awesome, haven't seen this done before very good video. Was just about to ask what oil was used, and you answered it 😄
It was much simpler in some ways than I thought but if you get into re-valving and new seals it can get more complex.
Dino
What an awesome explanatory video,another top effort from you Dino
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
ROFL @3:45 Dino!
Love your videos.
Where did you end up landing with your rear and front shocks in terms of valving/upgrades/etc?
Thanks for the question. I am still running stock valving set pretty much in the middle of the rebound. It seems to suit my old guy riding style.
Thanks again
Dino
Great video, Dino. Approximately how much did the rebuild cost?
Great question, It cost me $75.00 for a full disassembly, clean, inspection, refill with oil and nitrogen charge.
Dino
@Dino's Tinker Shed at that price you'd be crazy not to do it!!! Looks like I'll be driving to Welland from Kitchener before rising season!
Thanks for the very informative video, I know he mentioned what shock oil he uses, but I'm having a very difficult time finding what weight the stock oil is, I assume the Amsoil is 5w?
I belive it is but if I remember right Amzoil calls it light and the other viscosity is heavy which I think is 10 but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Stock from factory is 3w shock oil. The 5w Oliver put in would help mitigate the minimal rebound damping from factory. Lots of folks go to 5w or 7w to help with the rebound damping, especially if they upgrade their springs.
@Dino's Tinker Shed what is the black rubber/plastic conical shaped object in the lowest 3rd of the shock assembly on the left hand side of the bench at 14:10 in this video? I cant seem to find that part individually in my DR650SE parts diagrams and mine looks damaged 😢 Amazing detailed video ❤
That is your bump stop, they do wear out over time and should be available separately. You could always reach out to Oliver and he should be able to assist. I belive I placed a link in the description to his email.
@@DinosTinkerShed thanks so much ... learned something new ! Hard to find that even on service diagrams 👍🤓
You can also remove the seal and bump from the bottom side by removing the bottom mount, I think it's easier. I have a video how I did it. czcams.com/video/w3-j1aUvu20/video.html
I will check it out, thank you.
Dino
The graph at 18:12 is very misleading, showing the differences of O2 and N escape. Most importantly, air is mostly N and not O2. O2 would never be placed in a shock.