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iPhone 13 Pro Max vs 14 Pro Max vs 15 Pro Max: Which one should you pick in 2023? In this review, I'll be diving deep into the long-term performance of these Apple devices to help you make an informed decision on the best iPhone for you! After half a year of hands-on experience, I've pinpointed both the strengths and weaknesses of these models, potentially making you rethink getting one of the 15th series iPhones! Which one gets my vote - 13 Pro Max, 14 Pro Max, or 15 Pro Max? Ensure you watch the entire review to avoid any regrets when selecting your Apple phone this year!
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:17 - What is the "Pro" iPhone?
00:46 - Camera Comparison
04:45 - Video Recording Comparison
07:47 - Durability Battle
08:58 - Important Message
10:25 - Incredible "Pro" Advantage
12:35 - How Apple Takes Care Of Your Eyes
14:00 - Performance
15:31 - Which iPhone Is "Pro" And Which Is Not?
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I think I’m amongst the few that prefer the heavier weight on the 13/14 Pro Max iPhones. They just feel more premium and robust.
100% agree
Same
Feel like bricks
Yes, I agree 14 looks better
@@iwill_859I just upgrade to 15pm from 13pm and it feels and looks better and the 13pm feels like an anchor
Pro’s are increasingly becoming niche devices. Apple slaps a 120hz on regular models, the sales of pros will fall off a cliff
It won’t ! If apple gives 120 hz on regular models then there will always be 165 or 144hz for pro models or some other pro series features 💀
@@dread8900that would’ve been a great time idea. Pro 120
And base now 90 instead of the same hz since forever
Always buy pro max, pros are either nowt or something
they'll just have to make the pros better to where people would want way more than the 120 hz, but 120 hz is enough
Maybe new ultra phone next year? With even higher fps? With more ram with a larger battery, larger screen, better camera, new features and of course better chip. So you still will have the best of the best. However many people that buy the regular pro will switch to the normal iPhone 16. And Apple wants to boost the sales of the pro phones, -> they will still limit the hz but I hope they will at least make it 90 hz
Incredible! Thank you so much for making this video!
Thanks man 👍🏽
So basically keep my 1TB 13 Pro Max? Gotcha. 😂
Nah bruh, Give it to me and you buy the new one😋😂
Just ordered the iPhone 13 Pro Max, upgrading from the iPhone X; used it for around half a decade. It's time. I feel this is most value for money for me.
@@hortencepauni9704I just bought one from Amazon renewed, 90% battery life, great condition, looks brand new
May I ask? When using the external drive on the 15 pro,does it simultaneously record on the iPhones storage, as well?
Rocking iPhone 12 pm I see this as an absolute win to get 15 pro max I’m expecting a shipment today can’t wait!
Still rockin a 14pm as far as camera I’m not a professional but I know enough to know what I’m doing and it’s still amazing especially the macro mode and 4k cinematic mode the dynamic island is so much better than the notch and a always on display and crash detection and satellite that the 13 pro doesn’t have don’t get me wrong I’m sure the 13 pro is still great but it falls behind imo
Thank you for your in-depth review, you have convinced me to get the ProMax 15.....which i will be doing today.
And I did and I am really happy with it.
Congrats,
Wish I can just go out and get it but the exchange rate is not encouraging
Thanks! great review of these iPhones! I just bought a used 15 pro max, upgrading from the 13 pro max,!
Still rocking the 13 pro max the best phone apple made hands down
13 Pro Max is still worth the value
How is it the best 😂 that doesn't make sense I had that phone and it sucked
@@Chargersctpkboth of u are stupid a newest iPhone will always be a little
Be better I have the 13 pro max and it’s a GREAT PHONE and i don’t see the 15 offering me much more value for me to buy it
Mine is acting sluggish and the battery drain 😢
I’m currently running a 13 Pro and I’m very happy. I’m thinking to upgrade with the 17 Pro or 18 Pro
Smart
Same here. Most likely upgrade with 17 and will just change battery next year
Lets wait for a foldable iPhone!
I got the iphone 13 pro max since march 2022 and been using for at least 8 hours almost everyday work, for over a year and a half now. Battery health is at like %90 and it still runs like a beast and lasts over a day on normal use. FYI, I never tried to have the battery below %30 - %40 tho, and tried to not keep it too hot or too cold. Had a screen protector with phone case for its whole life. Had it on airplane mode when not using it for an extended amount of time, to save some battery. Never had maxed out performance settings either.
I thought it was best to never let it go below 20% battery and don't charge over 80%
@@RAYMUFC8 you’re right, I think I just kept it above %40 just to be hella extra safe lol
@@jasonko3440 My battery health on my 13PM is 96% and I have for the most part been charging it between 20% to 80%.
After over a year and a half could've used your phone in its most effective modes and had almost no difference lol
@@RAYMUFC8i never have any phone i have dip below 30 becuase i always have a portabls charger on me
13PM vs 13PM plus (14PM) + vs 13PM ultra (15PM)
Hi Arthur!
Quick question: Is it okay if I leave my M2 Macbook Air in the cold (12°C) then unlock it to use it straight away?
Thanks for your attention Arthur, and keep up the good content! 👌
Hi. Yes it’s fine. But it would be advisable to warm it up for a few minutes before use
I don't think it's a good idea, what if the air inside it cools down to form liquid in the internals? It'll shortsircuit the motherboard!
The only tangible difference between 15 and 14PM is the professional camera features and the rapid USB-C transfer/external recording. Other than that no realistic difference and even action button will be a honeymoon feature that will soon lose its appeal as nearly most people will choose an "action" and stick to it long term so in effect you lose mute switch and you gain an alternative action. No big deal. Unless you keep swapping between the countless number of functions of the action button (only one is usable at a time) every few days you will get used to it as you get used to mute switch.
The problem with the camera blur on the edges is a direct consequence of the lens + big sensor combination. Samsung had the same issue with their 108MP sensor after they introduced the S20 Ultra and to this day, all their Ultra phones have some sort of issue like this one. We're at the limit of what they can do with the lens + sensor size.
No such issues in either Vivos or Oppos or Xiaomis Ultra Phones which feature industry's largest 1-inch Sensors, it isn't the problem with sensor size, it's just the laziness of Samsung!
@@rrrr3666is that you, Ice Universe?
@@brianlambTN 😂
As a person who doesn’t use log, or look at my pictures very closely, I’m content with the 13 pro max. I do like the zoom on the 15 pro max though.
and USB
I like your glasses sir, where did you get em?
I'm watching your video on redmi 12. Video editing was amazing. Keep up the good work.
My iphone 14 pro max is lighter than 13 pro max and even 12 promax i checked on google that 14 pro max weight more than 13 pro max so whats the problem with weight is there any reason to worry?
In 3:12 part I don't know if it's just me but the dynamic range of the 13 pm I think it's s way better I mean specially the clouds and some of the cracks on the ceiling is way more visible ☹️
you're right
After lot of thinking, I happily bought 14 PM for a slightly cheaper price. I upgraded from iPhone 11 so the differences are huge for me. I didn’t find any new feature in 15pm which was important for me. I’m a regular user who don’t play any games in phone and I’m not a professional photographer or videographer, I just use my phone for regular social media apps and occasionally takes pictures. One of the main perk for me was, my iPad, AirPods have lightening and I have new lightening cables just lying around in case I needed a spare. And complaints of back glass breaking so easily and heating issues just pushed me towards 14pm which was tried and tested considering I’ll be using this phone for atleast 3-5 years.
I did the exact same upgrade and im loving my 14 pro max
Did you purchase a used,new, or refurbished iPhone and where from?
@@biggdawgg6932 I purchased a renewed iPhone 14 Pro Max
@@biggdawgg6932 I’m from India but I purchased a new one when I was visiting Bahrain, I found it cheaper there.
13 pro max would have been a better deal for you
I get it that notch is old but dynamic island is not that special really, they must find a way to make is smaller or disappear
I'm happy with my 13 PRO MAX, Still works like a champ and the battery life is phenomenal
Because it’s the best phone apple has ever made it’s a perfection
Anybody upgrading their phones from the 13 Pro onwards is just doing it as a ritualistic habit.
Exactly
😂 so true I saw my son's iPhone xr that he's cracked for the second time and he never even cares about how it looks out the newest iPhone that's why I'm going to get him a another one😢.
Facts
I thought it was just my phone. I try to take a picture close up it’s super blurry on my 15 pro max
I’ve realized the iPhone 13 Pro Max camera has diminished in quality, idk if it’s me or not but the photos I took when I first got it compared to pictures I take now, it feels like it got worse
How are you playing death stranding native on iPhone when it hasn’t come out yet?
What kind of glasses do you have? They look awesome! :)
sounds like youre describing the One plus Pro 9 that came out years ago, just not with the super fast charging lol
I’m so glad I just bought the 14 PM over the 15PM. Saved a lot of money and the A16 Bionic is still a beast like the original M1 chip. 👍
same here, the 15PM is just not worth it, considering it'll break the first time its dropped.
X3 I got my iPhone 14 PM just 5 days ago and very happy with it
I use mine for over a year now and it’s still lightning fast
Yep , had my 14 pro max for a year and it has proven itself to be a good robust phone that has survived my clumsiness over that time , and I actually prefer the more utilitarian design of the 14 over the 15 , even the weight gives it a feeling of substance.
I’m not a C content creator but still like to take happy snaps , and I shoot in 48 mp mode all the time , and it takes nice pics , I also have the pixel 8 pro and I’ve compared pics , really not much in it , both shoot good pics generally, but I still carry the 14 every where, it’s just a good phone .
same here saved money and happy with 14 PM good device
I just purchased the 15 and im not upgrading until the 20 😂😂
You are a mess hun
That’s what I’m planning to do right now
@@randriamananamickael7026 make sure to get the 1T.
1tb?
@@kriztoppa yep
good job at ignoring the heat that generate from that exceptional performance
1:02 take a further shot then and crop if needed to avoid blurry photo on 14 pro max and 15 pro max. easy fix
Is there a way i can shoot log with a 14 pro?
Im on 13pro max 3rd year now, this Phone is amazing.
I have an iphon xs and it still as good. but cant decide whether to upgrade between iphone 15 pro max and iphone 13 pro max green. i am leaning to the 13 pro max green because the 15 pro and max are to expensive. all phones are very much the same
👀
I want to upgrade from my 8 plus..
So any of these phones will be a massive improvement. I just don’t know which to go for. I don’t really want to pay $1200 but I want to make sure the upgrade is worth it so I can go another 5+ years.
13 Pro max, u can't really notice speed difference between 14 pro max.
I have 8 plus and 13 pro but for some reason I’m forever on my 8 plus😂but for sure 13 pro camera really good
Look on website for cheaper price
Go for 15 pro max
I have a regular 11 I most likely will upgrade to a 13 PM and stay there cause the 14 and 15 don’t interest me to upgrade to those
Don’t waste your money. The chip is very old and the screen design is outdated. Get at least a 14 pro
We all know the 14 Pro Max Deep Purple is the best looking + in terms of the power and camera is great too the difference can’t even been noticed the pic it do the simplicity is fu*** great! Im very glad that i have it and ill keep it until a new decent iPhone will be created! Before of the one i used my 11 pro max dark green and i loved that phone too!
Natural titanium looks miles better.
I remember the isheep saying 120hz screens were pointless when 5 years ago Android had it. Isheep said it was a gimmick. Now its a pro only feature/innovation that the isheep think is so great.
If you still have a 13 pro and you don’t really need all those cameraman features like usbC fast transfer and the extra camera quality (which is almost negligible) keep your phone , im going from the 10 to the 11 pro
😂😂😂
Tf is this broke talk
The 11 pro is a phone that has the highest radiation. Better to avoid it.
😂
Broke boi
I like how iphone doesn't show its battery specs ram specs etc.
I believe it's 20w charging. And 8gb of ram.
Even though iphone ram is probably the fastest or very fast 8gb ram compared to other 8gb. At least show some specs basic specs.
The thing is that even with a cable connected to the tv, the tv (which is 60 herts for me) shows a framerate of 15, while my iphone has 40+, so i would rather play on my phone than my tv
My fave feature of the 15 Pros has to be the lighter titanium frame. My kids bought the mid year green 13 Pro, and I've always disliked the weight of their phone. Having held the new Pro phones in my local Apple Store, colour me impressed. I’ll definitely be upgrading to a 15 Pro next year, … just haven’t decided which one.
Thanks as always for the content.
Go with the blue titanium dear 🥰, it's beautiful ❤️
@@dicetech_official I looked on one of the case websites, and it looks great with a matching bumper. Have to say I’m torn, but I definitely won’t be hiding it behind a full case, like my kids did - that makes no sense to me lol
I have natural titanium and it’s by far the best color.
i got black its the best natural will become dirtier overtime @@iwill_859
How fun it is that opinions can vary about the dynamic island. I didnt upgrade to the 14 and 15 exactly cause of the dynamic island. I play a lot on my phone and as i tried it on the 14 pro max i just got really annoyed about that. Its so distracting and noticeably lower in the screen. Im waiting for them to remove it then i will upgrade. My 13 pro max ist still rocking solid and the upgrades on the new phones are not enough of a reason for me to switch as long as the dynamic island stays there.
Real
Same 😭😭 especially when you use your iPhone to watch CZcams, I don’t watch CZcams on my phone that often but when I do I feel like the Dynamic Island would be a lot more distracting than the small notch on 13 or regular 14 model
Dynamic island is better, cope harder.
Watching from my 13 pro max ❤ no need for me to upgrade 😂
15 pro max has a faster chip and thinner bezel
@@htstubes9333 not enough of a reason for an upgrade tbh,
@@htstubes9333yeah but it’s also like $1.2k
Better speaker, better haptics, better display, better processor, better camera . So don't make excuses 😂 bcoz you can't upgrade.
@@Yolo-mz5yg bro I don’t need to update , have my own opinion ! You better focus and let me be 🤔
I have the 13, not the pro version and I want to upgrade to get a pro max one, either 13,14 or 15 pro max and I really want to make a smart decision I don't want to throw my money to get nearly the same phone. can anyone help?
Wait for 16 pro
13 Pro Max’s battery lasts up to an hour longer than 14 Pro Max’s. I would therefore not go as far as saying 14 Pro Max is better than 13 Pro Max. The only true difference is the Dynamic Island, and that was not enough of a selling point for me when it came to choosing by latest phone. I am very happy with the 13 Pro Max, and although the 15 Pro Max has some enticing new features, I will still not be going that route. Let’s see what the future holds 😊
lol the 13 pro max battery life doesn’t last an hour longer. Have you actually seen the recent battery tests on ios17? The 13 pro max has worse battery life than the 14 now. And there are way more differences between the two than just Dynamic Island.
@@michealadebz My battery lasts 14 to 15 hours a day. I don’t need more than that 🤷🏻♂️
@@SuperDurandt good for you just correcting you is all. 13 pro did initially have better battery but it got worse in iOS 17
Which one should i buy in this two phone. Second hand iphone 14 pro max by £750 or new iphone 15 pro by £999?
I14
14
My 14 pro max still has a heating issue with the simplest tasks
Hell my 12 mini still holds up to today. The only things to pick at would be the poor cameras (only with digital zoom and lack of macro), slightly worse chip (which still works great to this day, just can’t run demanding games with good fps) and the battery life
A14 inside the 12 mini is pretty decent for gaming! Can game Genshin Impact at 60FPS at Max settings or atleast that's what I guess! Maybe the chips degraded over time!
I had the 14PM and the 5x and USB-C was the reason for upgrading. Now I am settled for many years to come
That's prolly what u said when 14 pm went out lol
@@serbianwolfgaming9623come next year and then they’ll be upgrading to that one. Haha lol
My 14 PM battery health has moved from 100 to 87 in less than 10months. What could be the issue? I’ve checked my charger and the usage though.
apple recommend battery usage between 40 and 80% of charge for best battery health, if you can i guess 😂
So one of the most important things that you did not mention is the Sim card. Some people have multiple phones with multiple companies like myself. I can simply switch my Sim card from my 13 Pro Max to the Samsung S 23 no problem off I go. but without the Sim card tray anymore you can't just do that anymore. Some companies charge you activation fees to simply go from one phone to another.
Buy the iPhone in Canada
Bro i got the 13 pro max for 530 a week ago. It does everything just as well as all the other phones. so happy
You mean brand new for 530USD???
It is second hand though u mean??!
No mention of the battery
One thing I don’t like on my 13 pro is it doesn’t have action video feature but overall I love my phone.
It’s 1 of those things where you had to own the 13 pro, and 14 pro, in order to appreciate the 15 Pro Max. It really stands apart from the rest and I’m excited to see what is next
Facts i had the 14 pro and now the 15 pro max & it’s night and day.
@@iwill_859 How so?
It's not about 14 and 15, it's about Pro and Pro Max!
Ah yes titanium you won’t feel through a case and a difference charge port truly makes it stand out from the 14 and 13 🤦🏾♂️
@@michealadebz😂🤣 so true
If you want more battery - 13 Pro Max
If you want more solid construction - 14 Pro Max
If you want the best camera, USB-C, lighter phone and absolutely incredible bezels - 15 Pro Max.
15 Plus for best battery
Literally the 15 pro max wins all these categories.
@@iwill_859 I think a mint 13 pro max would last longer than a 15 pro max? And for construction, 14 Pros are indeed more solid, theres a drop test on youtube where the 15 pro gets completely smashed after multi0le drops with the camera block separating and frame bending while 14 pro is still usable. But yeah, id still get the 15 pro because its good enough in its weak points and some of its features are absolutely among the best (like the camera/video/screen/smoothness of operation)
@@Henry14arsenal2007 1. More efficient and doesn’t overheat as bad as the last generations.
2. Titanium is more durable overall & the back glass is cheaper to repair now so who really cares. Have fun spending $500 on back glass replacement.
@@iwill_859 the latest ios updates do seem to fix the overheating issues it had at the start. Titanium is more durable but the construction is less sturdy in its design, its also an aluminum composite, not fully titanium.
Pro tip :- just buy new spigen screen gard and good quality apple case and tweak your home screen a bit that’s it if you have 12/13/14 series.❤️
I can buy a blue 512GB iPhone 13 Pro Max (used) for half the price of a new iPhone 15 Pro Max 256GB. Is it ideal?
Yes, if you will utilize all of that 512GB storage on the iPhone 13 Pro Max you'll save yourself a lot of money.
Just imagine comparing the prices between 512GB iPhone 13 Pro Max to it's matched 512GB iPhone 15 Pro Max counterpart 😂
I think you should too include 12 pro in the comparison, the results could be more hilarious 😂
I took some photos when I visited Yucatán peninsula and the people I have shown to on my 13PM, and they have mentioned that the photos looked amazing. It’s the technique, I tell them!
I love your glasses. ❤
This is the first time I've bought an iPhone switching from an android. I'm going to say I'm amazed by the phone, but the only thing I hate, is the battery life. I only get 6hrs screen time on the 15 Pro
Maybe the heating issue contributes to its low screen on time?
I’m going to android the apple storage is terrible. Samsung let’s you use a storage sd card.
@@300HB_BaconBurgernot on any of their flagships for a long time now.
I wish mine had a sim tray
Not worth upgrading from iphone 13 mini ill wait thanks
I have a 13 Pro, and it’s camera is out classed by my wife’s 15 Plus (non-Pro).
13 pro max the best over all
Bought the 15 pro max for the camera features (coming from Samsung). Very satisfied! 😁
I personally think the biggest problem is the size, they’re almost smaller iPad minis.
Can you please make this kind of video about normal versions? Becouse I and I think many more people don't want to pay 1.4k for Iphone
Buy oppo
2023 phones wasnt too bad. Got the s23+ and 15PM. Both solid
Boggles my mind how my $326 Samsung Galaxy A54 5g has a 120 hz amoled screen, whereas the $1200 iPhone 15 still only has a 60hz LCD panel....
the iphone 15 is 800$
Okay it's time for a Pixel 8 Pro 😉
I just bought a 13 pro max 1tb for $700. Perfect condition. I consider it a win.
Edit: I came from the 11 non pro, so this is a MAJOR difference.
It was a blessing to ditch my samcrap samsung s 23 ultra for my 15 pro max 1 tb great video apple has better photos and video than samcrap
The 15 pro max did have a great camera and Dynamic Island. But that was it. It wasn’t impressive. I ended up returning it. If you have a 13 pro model or newer, you’re gonna be bored with it. Changing all of my charger cords, horrible battery, and constant heat made it not worth it to me. They have a lot to fix. My 2 year old 13 pro max is way better.
I still got a 12pro…Ima wait till I see something worth upgrading
Me too i will keep my 12 pro max
I have 13 Pro Max graphite 128 gb, and I really love it...i bought 15 pro max titanium black 256 2 days ago and I am still sceptical about switching..😟
I really like my 13 pro max.
Great colour and great performance... everything I need.
Trying to convince myself to switch, no success obviously.
I have a 13 pro max as well. I took the 15 pro max back. It was getting way too warm, battery was awful, and switching all my chargers to USBC when I have an iPad that’s lightning as well, just wasn’t worth it to me. I think Apple made too many mistakes with this phone. I’ll wait for the 16 or 17.
Please sell me ur phone
I got the pro once and switched straight back to the regular iPhones. 120 hertz is not worth the extra cost and I don’t care about the extra cameras or any of there features
Ok keep telling yourself that
@@thatstress1 lmao ok? I’ve had both side by side.. I’m not spending 300-400 more for something that is so insignificant
Both phone are still great to have…
I’m talking with you every time Apple makes a small change about it and what it’sn’t bad you know like only two changes like what about the iPhone 13 Pro Max has a lightning cord has a notch doesn’t have the dynamic ship. Looks like iPhone 15 Pro and when you look at the iPhone 14 Pro they’re almost identical to the iPhone 15 Pro and the only thing that’s in the difference you can look at is the iPhone 15 Pro is the action button, like looking at somebody on the street and you’re so see iPhone so if we go to the previous ones you would see a lot of changes like who need that phone to iPhone 13 to iPhone 15 Pro has to do you know of course we know because if you have a iPhone six or seven or X, I suppose that OK you can buy it it’s fine cause you have a old phone so you have to buy another one and we need something difference in iPhone.
So the things that actually matter on a phone like the screen and performance with tasks is essentially the same. A camera does not define a phone lol
My main phone is S23 Ultra yet I don't see myself upgrading my Secondary Phone 11 Pro Max. Performance are pretty similar and it has better battery life compared to iPhone 14 Pro Max according to testing
14 pro max overall the best!
The iPhone 13 Pro is still so goated can’t wait to get mine
same getting mine next month, upgrading from an 11 to 13 so should be great
Same can’t wait
Getting an I phone 13 pro max this week,upgrading from an I phone 7.looking forward to the big leap😉👍
I also got 13pm n 14pm … I’m not planning on buying 15 pm …. 😅
13 pro max has battery am using mine is 1 year plus now
So you forgot to mention 13 Pro max has the best lowlight video thanks to 1.9microns
No it doesn’t 😐
After being spoiled by the 11 pro max and its incredible battery life
Went to the 13 pm and saw a slight improvement
2 or 3 hrs more
Now with the 15pm
It’s hardly a noticeable one tbh
I went with apple bc of the bad battery performance I was getting with Samsung
And to me the 11 pro max was a true pro phone bc it gave me what I needed and more
Those two other PROs
They are hardly giving me what I want
Sure it got bigger
Better speakers more ram (try reading trivia section in IMDb with a 13 pm and 15 pm huge difference)
Faster Chips
Better cameras
But not what I expect from an iPhone pro max
I dunno if that’s just me or not
But I don’t know if it’s gonna be worth it with the next one
After all the research I decided to just get a 15 pro max, I have the money
Why the camera is so important is beyond my imagination though, it doesn’t help me take better pictures for my Facebook marketplace posts
Congrats,
Wish I can just go out and get it but the exchange rate is not encouraging
Yes yes 15
😂❤
The reason is the 15 higher the iso nothing else.
13 pro max is a cost effective option above the others.
best telephoto you ever tested....on iphone
I purchased my 14 Pro Max 6 months ago. Really happy that I did not wait for the 15 Pro. My friend has one and he has had nothing but problems. Photos on both phones are practically identical. Will keep my 14 Pro for a few years.
Problems? 💀
I’ve had no problems , just a far better phone
what problems did your friend have?
Upgraded from an 11 it’s snappier the camera is pretty good too..
It’s been almost flawless…
My only complaint is that it just doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade it looks and feels like an iPhone… from 4 years ago 😂
@@theodorerobinson5274Thats iphone for you. Its a flex thing not a features and funtionality. Still nonkeyboard with a numbers row😅