I was going 25mph around the bend. The cars(drivers) that crashed were distracted or going too fast and hit the barriers before coming into camera view on the crash compilation.
czcams.com/video/QZhkVT-vpA4/video.html Here’s the same exit at 65 mph until I pass the 2nd 20 mph sign. The I5 Union Street Exit is hard to get to from Mercer Street South Lake Union on ramp. Maybe some of those cars are crashing after being frustrated with changing lanes 5 times at rush-hour !
Looks like a bunch of idiot speeders that’s all. Can’t defend stupidness. For some reason everybody has to drive fast nowadays that’s why we have so many vehicle deaths
Please upload a video of the many steep hill streets Seattle has, it feels like hell every time driving on those streets. Also circular/roundabout exits/entrances of freeways.
It is an interstate highway.. meaning lots of unfamiliar tourists come through there, driving 75 mph just a few seconds prior to the exit. And not paying too much attention to the ordinary signs.
Looks like they need to bank the turn a bit.. and give more warning about the sharp turn into immediate city streets. The signs don’t seem to relay the dangers ahead.
I grew up in Houston. This video randomly popped up on my homepage and I have no context. So I expected it to be some crazy, impossible looking exit ramp. Got to the end of the video and said out loud "That wasn't even that bad??". 😅 Perhaps someone would like to direct me to the video y'all cane from?
This highlights why reading road signs is just as important as your driving abilities. 99% of the time, they give you all the information you need. First, a sign before the exit says 30 mph, then right as you enter the exit, a sign says 20 mph. I feel like people tend to forget that literacy is a big part of driving.
Funny thing is, I didn't even notice the mph signs. However, it should be common knowledge by now to take exits slower anyway. Plus the big yellow arrow signs, if it's your first time on the road, always assume it's a hard turn and take it accordingly
In general, the more signage required, the worse the design. If you need to read twelve directional signs, and six speed signs, amid forty-five ads, then it isn't the driver's fault.
@T You see the turn arrows, which usually indicates a pretty serious turn, you see a traffic light sign right there so be prepared to possibly stop, there's THREE signs indicating a suggested 20 mph turn, which should give you a clue on how sharp this turn is. ALL signs are reflective. And you're exiting off a freeway, No, this isn't "people don't know the street, the exits", this is people who are real new to driving in general, daredevils, or suck at driving.
I mean not really. A lifetime of driving and I have never seen such terrible city planning. This is probably the worst designed road of them all. That is a shockingly short off ramp and I've traveled the country and seen some really bad roads. We aren't talking about your typical crappy city roads. This is a highway off ramp that comes to a complete stop in a area smaller than a football field.
4 arrows signs, 3 speed limit signs, a traffic stop warning, and 3 exit signs. 500+ yards from the first sign according to Gmaps 0:00 Union St. Exit 165B Sign 0:06 Right Lane MUST EXIT sign 0:09 Union St. Exit 165B Sign #2 0:12 Exit 30mph sign 0:15 Exit Right Turn 20mph sign 0:20 Exit 165B sign #3 0:21 Incoming Traffic Light sign 0:23 20mph Right Turn sign + 2 right turn arrows 0:25 The 3rd right turn arrow All within 500+ yards
All those probably seem like “normal” signage to some drivers who probably can’t even read the road, let alone traffic signs. Given all the accidents. They need to give more dire warnings. And banking that 90+ degree turn wouldn’t hurt either.
@@austinkim9402 You really think the 30+ IDENTICAL incidents weren’t enough??? They can’t make an extremely dangerous and improper stretch of road, and try to make up for it by casual signage.
@@adamfirst9321 11 signs isn't casual signage. Those people were rolling in well above 50mph and honestly this isn't even a unique exit. There are a lot of short exits like those in la county.
It definitely is the fault of the drivers who hit turns going 50+ mph but it's also a terribly built exit. A sharp turn off the expressway into a stoplight just makes me cringe. I can imagine during rush hour that light causes backups into the expressway itself, making the traffic so much worse.
I agree, … but I don’t like compilation videos, I like them all individual videos, that way I don’t have to waste my time watch something over and over and over and over and over and over again, because it’s in ANOTHER compilation video)
@@SummerUntitled It's not just the sharp turn. It's the fact that it's a sharp turn, into a traffic light, out of a tunnel. One some days, you can easily get blinded by the change of light coming out of the tunnel. A lot of people forget about that.
There's no good or bad drivers who crashes into this 90 degree exit. *It's more related on if the driver already took this exit or not.* Sometimes, when you take a curve fast, you must apply more speed to better control the turn. However, the problem with this exit, there's an intersection light right after the curve. So if the light is red, it's hard to manage this strong curve with speed, while trying to apply brakes at the same time. Nothing to do with good or bad drivers, unless you're a slow driver, and if it's your case, of course you'll believe all fast drivers are bad drivers. The exit is the problem, and the city knows it...
@@blackberry8924 what are you talking about? You gotta be slow on curves, and to hell with that traffic light you ain't doctor strange to know what the color of the light is, you should just act only when you see it.
I came here out of curiosity from seeing everyone crash here and I was not prepared for how beautiful the first 10 seconds were. Vegetation over concrete will always be my favorite aesthetic
i will not lie i5 passing thru seattle is honestly a pretty decent example of somewhat ecobrutalist architecture, and because of it's visible age and some graffiti to spice it up here and there i think it works wonderfully. the james street exit (iirc, if not one of the other downtown exits) is a good one for that
This just proves why my number 1 rule when driving is: ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE IS INCOMPETENT!! When you put yourself in less situations to have to trust other drivers abilities, the better off you’ll typically be. Absolutely no way anybody should be crashing here.
Thank you, for accurately describing my underlying intuitions, heh lol but in all seriousness. this is absolutely right, you physically cant tell what the "weather" on the road is going to be, for every trip you take, down to every turn you make. until you look forth, and discern the details of the environment, in the few hundred feet and the few seconds you're given, to be able to drive safely. the way i like to put it is: the road is like the governments house; they're never there, they dont care and they're easily irritated when having to deal with it. sure the word house isnt accurate, but its said to emphasize the property aspect and how wasteful large roads are, then when you put them around every corner of your city, yeah big brain. houses themselves are physically banned from using their entire property simply because of the existence of the road- it makes driving "feel" safer because you can see around the corner of a stop sign. which was ultimately debunked because suburbs have awful vehicle-injury rates
Not to mention exits like this are everywhere, I don't know why people are hitting such a clearly visible sharp turn at such speeds. Use your eyes lmao. Even if it wasn't a sharp turn, why are people exiting at what seems to be like 60+ mph.
@@robbylawlor4259 might be due to how long the car is driving straight compared to when it entered the ramp/ exit lane. some people get really accustomed to over-accommodating freeway ramps
People are generally decent drivers, but some people shouldn't to able to own a license for sure. I avoid an accident at least once a day commuting back and forth. Stay vigil!
Just watched the crash compilation the other day. I'm a Californian who used to do food delivery in Seattle and every day Washingtonians showed me new and exciting ways of driving that any normal person would be ashamed of.
I lived in Seattle Metroplex in 2000. at 00:38 that part of the drive with all the trees and vines over growth is amazing,...and then you get down town.
Ah thanks for that. I was also curious to see what the exit looked like after watching the crash videos and was going to look on Streetview, but your video shows it clearly. it's quite a sharp bend. After travelling for many miles at speed on a freeway you need to adjust to slower driving quite rapidly here. 30mph can seem like walking speed after a long drive on a freeway and I think that is what is catching these drivers out.
yeah, but that seems like a very normal exit at least for the highways here in Europe. Are sharper bends that uncommon over there?! We have a ton of exit-bends here that only allow you to go 25 mph...
Never been to America so I don't know. In England we have yellow lines across the road for about a quarter of a mile which get closer together as you approach a roundabout or whatever on a fast road. They give the illusion that you are going faster than you actually are and make you brake. They really are effective.
The exit lane leading up to that bend is quite long, more than enough time to adjust your speed plus there are warning arrows to indicate a tight bend, anyone who doesn't realize they cant get round that bend at highway speed is an idiot and shouldn't be driving
It's honestly not that bad, the thing that always throws me off my guard is the light IMMEDIATELY after the turn. People just need to slow the hell down while driving, it's not a race and the world does not rotate around your daily appointments. Notice it's gotten worse after the pandemic, people seem to have forgotten what safe speeds are.
People are dumb and have no sense of time. They will speed down the street just to end up at the same red light as traffic that is going a safe speed and still think that they are getting ahead. Only thing they're ahead on is their next brake job
and really if you slowed down enough to survive the turn you are going slow enough to easily stop at the red light. or at least I would think you would be
Well you're coming off the freeway where you're going 60mph so normally you'd have a bit more of an off ramp to slow down. If they slow down more it screws up the flow of traffic on the freeway. It's worth it to slow down for sure, but it's not intuitive
I've seen a few comments about the need for rumble strips, but what would be a better option and immediately noticable to anyone taking that exit is the type of electronic sign showing the exit ramp speed limit with flashing yellow lights on the outer edges of the sign. Nobody would be able to say they didn't see that!
I read “Edit” and not “Exit” so I thought I was going to get some kind of phonk mashup of different freeways when I clicked on this video. I didn’t expect a simple exit with only traffic sounds, but I wasn’t disappointed. This is a good vid.
Honestly, you're brave for showing everyone how this exit looks cus you really taking the risk of getting smacked by another car that's behind you not paying attention and looking at the road signs that are visible on the exit. You a real one 😂
@@ztsb_koneko drove to work everyday here for years...I never seen anything. this is why anecdotal evidence should never be taken as fact. it's dangerous yes but it's a compilation for a REASON...for fucks sake
Has something changed with that exit recently? I haven't been in that area in a long time but after seeing all those wrecks, I am confused if there are just a lot more bad drivers or something new with this exit.
the blind turn into a light has screwed me up the first time or 2. theres sometimes traffic backed up RIGHT after the blind turn. it can be sketchy. this video is also VERY light traffic for seattle lol
I'm from half way around the world and I visited Seattle acouple months ago. The compilation video I saw before this sure did look similar! Now this makes so much sense! I did remember that place from somewhere!!!
I grew up in NYC and lived in Chicago, Norfolk, Honolulu, Philly and Seattle. I've never seen more accidents in my entire life than on this stretch of I-5 North going through Seattle towards Everett. I saw a guy on a motorcycle on the express lane in Seattle go flying through the air into the car next to me, my last week before I finally moved away.
I too have seen the crash videos and was curious about this exit. It’s clearly marked with a safe speed limit. Not sure why people think they can still be doing 75mph 🤦♂️.
Thanks for this perspective. One thing I haven't seen much talk of is the fact that the exit spits you out on the left side of a three lane road, and 95% of the time, drivers then want to turn right. So you come out of the exit and have to look over to the right and hope to heck there aren't cars and buses barreling down, blocking the two lanes you want to quick cross over so you can make your right turn.
Well it spits you out in the middle of downtown so you could always just take a right at the next block and go around? Losing you a whopping 15 seconds…
Thank you, your other video of people crashing after taking it too fast makes sense now seeing it from this way. That’s a harrowing turn right there! Geez don’t be in a hurry! Thanks for your content. Slow down people
97% of people In seattle shouldn't be able to drive. I dont know when you were last here but I feel like people being away from the roads during covid lockdown made people forget how to drive.
@@grimly105 Lol people always say their state or city has "the worst drivers" "virginia drivers" "montana drivers" but in reality, it's just all drivers, everywhere and anywhere, that shouldn't be allowed to drive
Dude if you went to Seattle you’ll realize that no one in Seattle should be allowed to drive. I came from California and I now have yet to believe that California has the worlds best drivers. I’m sure Germany might be better but dude… also the pedestrians aren’t very smart either, I think they skipped the “look both ways before you cross” lesson
I doubt it would help much, but maybe if they also added a progressive amount of rumble strips prior to the turn, it might get those particular drivers to really slow down.
I'm so grateful you made the drive on this road so that I could see how on earth all those ppl were speeding and crashing on that bend happened...😂😂😂😂That crash compilation was excellent, best footage EVER💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿🤗
This is great! Thank you for noticing how many people were curious about what the ramp looks like, and then taking the time to film it for us. What a guy!
Drivers are not paying attention to the speed signs that are clearly posted to reduce speed. Driver's that crash are idiots and I hope are held 100% responsible for damages.
the signs are sufficient. I drive a trk through 4 states and my eyes are always searching roadways for warning signs. low bridge, stop ahead, tight curve, lane change, speed drops etc etc. there's just too many dummies on the road not paying attention.
What is there to be caught off guard about? Someone taking that exit is going right into downtown Seattle from the freeway. You can't just continue at freeway speed like there's a big long stretch with lots of time to slow down.
That's it? Are you freaking kidding me? That? That's a typical exit in Boston. In fact, at least in Seattle they offer a speed limit. Sheesh. I though it had a loop or a corkscrew in the tunnel judging by the videos of cars being spit out inverted.
@@miketech79 hey neighbor! I've lived all over the US and have often thought of putting a neon sign on the back of my vehicle that said: Boston Driver: If I'm Driving Slow, You Better Stay Behind Me."
@@thomasmartin7425 LOL, Exactly... most everyone is doing generally 15-20 MPH faster than the speed limits in the Boston metro area. Storrow Drive, Big dig tunnels who follows those 40 and 45 MPH signs?
I noticed that the posted speed limit on the exit ramp is 30 MPH and then before the bend a sign indicates 20 MPH plus a sharp turn indicator right on the sign. Also underpasses like this, that don't get much direct rain to wash away surface oil can get extra slippery. If it hasn't rained in a while and then it only lightly rains the water on top of the accumulation of oil can potentially make the roads even more slippery. Slowing down and situational awareness helps a lot.
Yeah, I was noticing that, myself: When I went looking for the crash compilation video (I saw this one first and had no context), most of the crashes looked like the pavement was wet at the time, which reduces braking effectiveness rather a lot.
Yep. Same thing (maybe worse) in Oakland/East Bay. Oil builds up for months and even the slightest shower turns the freeways into high speed slip-n-slides. Nobody slows down until physics takes over. Usually with sub-optimal results. I
This is Seattle. Unless it’s July-early September, there’s no such thing as having not rained in awhile. And it practically doesn’t rain at all for that period, so realistically there would only be a couple days a year where this could happen.
@@Loj84 Most of the crashes looked like people just SUCK and can't follow directions. I've taken that exit multiple times as a passenger and driver. Didn't wreck my car or run a stop light.
I wanna preface this by saying that while I am a civil engineer, this is is a reflection primarily of my view on civil and transportation engineering and not adhering to a strict set of guidelines. The exit is bad, simple as that. If an exit requires exceptionally more signage than usual and has numerous severe accidents resulting from it, especially involving cars that are stopped and have no way to prevent being badly rear ended, then it's a bad exit. I'm going to assume the alignment (shape of the road) is old and therefore drivers may have had an easier time with less phone distractions and slower cars. However, it doesn't justify the exit as it. I understand people calling drivers dumb who get into accidents here but if engineers thought like that then most humans would suffer needlessly. You can never assume perfect or even average conditions. Take for example the reaction time used in transportation engineering for calculating stop sign distance. It's anywhere from 2.5 to 9 seconds. This is awful. Most people can reaction in a half second to a second at the latest. But take your eyes off the road for a second to change the radio or look at the text that just popped up or perhaps the driver is elderly or impaired. You soon realize why the time is as conservative as it is. I don't have a solution because I'm not a professional transportation engineer in Washington who knows the site conditions. But regardless, it's easy to tell this I'd a bad exit.
it doesn't take a civil engineer to recognize the exit is poor. doesn't matter. if drivers read the signage it wouldn't be a problem. let's spend millions of dollars to adjust or completely close this one exit so that the handful of people that can't drive get to continue not knowing how to drive.
@@gamma00crucis Are you going to say that to the people sitting in the stoplight at the end who get hit by cars screeching out of that exit? Road planning (like most things) doesn't work with that kind of attitude because when someone is maneuvering two tons of metal hurdling across the pavement at 60 mph and they fuck up, other people get hurt or die.
I commuted to my job in Seattle for 25 years. The clustered exits and entrances thru downtown are a problem primarily because of impatient, reckless drivers whose aggressive tactics cause most of the collisions.
2003. My brother, Mum and I are headed to Bremerton Raceway. We want to catch the ferry over. My brother sees this exit. It's the one we need. We're in the correct lane but going I-5 speed not exit speed. He undercuts the corner and as we straighten out he jams the brakes. We slid, in his 1987 5.0L 5 speed Mustang, up and through this light. Fast forward to 2005 and coming down fir a Seahawks game. Dad, brother and I. Dad driving a 1994 Ford Explorer. Dad takes this off-ramp and drives, sedately, to this light. My brother and I were amazed at how far down these lights actually were. Made both events safely btw.
@@vlz.matthew AFAIK the exit is as old as I5, which was built in the fifties. Presumably the exit was covered in the eighties when the Seattle Convention Center was built.
I remember taking this exit in like 2008 or so, and I remember going just a slight bit faster than I should have. Even at 30, it's that sudden change from dark to light that gets you. This was before they added some better signs too. Always, ALWAYS pay attention and don't over estimate your driving skills.
@@itsurboidonnie its all fun and games till its your family that gets kills by these idiot drivers. Then you will say, why didn't we bring back the death penalty.
My grandma used to live in the Seattle area along with some of my aunts, and we would go visit every year. We didn’t often get off on union street, but this was still a nice walk down memory lane.
Thanks for making this! I wondered what the build up was like. Seems kinda normal except it swings at the end with a bit of fishtail if you're speeding, tho
I'm also here after the crash compilation video. I was really curious how the road looked like leading to the exit. The comments on that video was disabled so we had no idea what was causing the accidents. Thank you for showing us 👍🏻
I am away from Seattle for a couple of years on studies and it's simple little clips like this that keep me in touch. As well as the crash compilation of the same exit.
Wow!! People who are crashing into this Exit should have their license taken away. I thought this would be a difficult corner, but after finally seeing this, its obvious the people that are crashing can't drive, read signs, or know how to slow down
Thanks for the vid. It's a sharp turn for sure, but as a Western Washington resident, the issue is that 50%+ of the people here SUCK at driving, hell even me included occasionally. It's quite obvious that you should slow down, there's really not much of an excuse in my opinion.
Agreed. Washington state is filled with some of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen. Each snow “storm” (storm… HA. Try living in Michigan in winter or Ohio where we get hella lake effect snow..) brings accidents like mad. People drive too damn close here, they don’t pay attention. Idk if it’s all the drugs here or what, or too many Californians, but yeah-trash driving.
As another western Washington resident, it was shocking how much more pleasant it was to drive in Idaho, eastern Oregon etc when I drove on my first road trip. People there actually get out of the left lane on the freeway and let you pass. It’s a beautiful sight.
Literally I saw the crash compilation and I was wondering why they were crashing so much, I returned to the CZcams homepage and this video was first lol
Increasing the length of the ramp and moving the reduce speed sign back further and putting some flashing lights around the speed limit signs would probably help. Maybe also having the stoplight ahead sign on the wall with the arrows might better help alert drivers to the light being around the bend
Maybe they should have Mama come hold their hand through it as well! 🤣! Sorry, imo everything they've already done is plenty enough; people have become WAY TOO COMPLACENT while driving... period! It doesn't matter if it's a street, freeway, highway etc, People seem to be more reckless in general all you can do is a drive as defensively as you can and pray you're not going to cross paths with these clueless drivers today!
All they would need to reduce accidents here is a combination flashing amber/30km/hr warning sign on the overpass leading under the bridge. Problem solved. People tend to take those speed limit signs far more seriously when they are marked with a flashing amber warning light. You only ever see them on a speed limit warning sign on a curve that has a history of crashes. Such an easy fix.
I was thinking a flashing light might help too. It's not a defective interchange design, but somebody is going to die there. I notice quite a few cars in the crash video ended up where pedestrians could be standing.
Wrong. Go to the 11 foot 8 bridge youtube. Flashing lights and warning signs absolutely don't help bad drivers. Either you are paying attention or you are not. If multiple reflective bright yellow neon signs don't do it, adding lights won't either. It's just that simple.
@@genogrinberg6014 do you think the 11'8" (+8 now) bridge should remove the flashing lights, barriers, signals, and trip sensors? Clearly people keep hitting the bridge so they should just take them out, right? Just because something won't prevent EVERY crash doesn't mean it's not helpful, or worth doing.
@@mogwix that's not my point. The point is that normal drivers don't have issues with this exit. Only bad drivers do. The signs wouldn't help the drivers who already take the exit properly and it's not going to stop people who aren't paying attention.
If I'm ever in Seattle--and I really would love to visit someday--I think I'll immediately take that right onto 7th after exiting, just to get the hell out of dodge. That exit could only be a two-step sort of thing for me... 😅 Thanks for the video!
THANK YOU, I always wonder what it looks like from the drivers point of view, and now I only PARTIALLY understand why there are so many accidents. I still don't see how they miss all those obvious signs.
This video found me I didn’t search for it but some how it answered a burn question I had after watching a previous video regarding this exit and the many car accidents it has witnessed 😂😂😂
Idk how it works there but the issue that I can see is that here in Australia we have two types of speed signs limits and recommendations, so people are usually conditioned to read the recommendation as it is such a common occurrence on turns and exits and decide on there own driving to take the corners disregarding the suggestions. So when a case comes along like this exit where the recommendation is more like a speed limit sign people disregard and continue at the speed limit causing a crash. That’s why extra emphasis on the speed change must be made like flashing ambers to help people understand this is not a typical recommendation
I lived in Bellevue for 3 years and these signs are pretty new, still you should never go barreling down an exit regardless of angle! The amount of people who get in crashes in Washington, who have lived their whole life in the area and should know the weather and road layout blow me away.
Thanks for posting, the other crash vid made me wonder what all the crashing was about. Nice to see that it's in Seattle, what the citizens have allowed to happen to their city over the last two years makes it hard to have any sympathy for anything that happens there.
I actually want to believe that all of these different crashes are really a part of a very esoteric, high-level “dynamic art installation “; a very well-coordinated, interpretive performance of what has happened to downtown Seattle as a whole!
This kind of reminds me of the Lincoln Heights exit on I-75. That's a 10 mph curve. I remember this exit when I was in Seattle in 1999. I thought it was rather cool how one went from dark to light into the City immediately.
I always thought it was so cool having the freeway run under the buildings like that. I’ve never been in the convention center but I’ve ridden under it in the car several times
"Oh its the exit from the crash compilation I was watching earlier" What kind of terminal subculture has youtube directed me into. Do I deserve to be here?
I can only imagine the carnage that this exit would cause in Houston. They have their own version of Sammy Hagar's song there. It's just "I Can't Drive."
Thank you. After viewing the video of the crashes, this video confirmed my suspicions: the vehicles that crashed were being operated by idiots who failed to adhere to the bright yellow signs indicating a right curve and the speed to which drivers are to exit.
Lol, I'm here after watching accident compilation, and honestly since it's not new at this point I did expect to see few big yellow boards with text like: "DUDE! ACCIDENTS! SLOW THE EF DOWN!" 😅
A good portion of seattle is like this yes, but it’s hard to see from the video just how much litter is in the road or that every building looks exactly the same aside from downtown seattle
Love how desperate I was to see the actual exit after the crashes. I see that a dumb driver can easily crash because it comes off a fast road and seemed wet but at the same time it’s probably common sense to slow down especially when entering a sharp turn with a traffic light warning ahead.
Interesting exit! A couple of things 1) the lighting looks horrendous imagine going into a dimly lit tunnel and then exiting only to be flashbanged by a light going round a turn. 2) Is there a "no trucks allowed" signage earlier? Cause that looks like a nightmare for trucks 3) Overall looks like it was designed well given the space they had and they didn't need to extend it. Not too overly complicated or dumb additions making it less effective than needed.
It could use more signage, like red flashing lights to show how sharp that curve is and how fast you really need to stop. And yes, it was cool to see this angle after watching the crash videos.
I have never seen a highway exit connect directly into a stoplight intersection as abruptly as that. Maybe the length isn't long enough, and coupled with the huge blindspot wall on the right, that might be what's catching drivers who suddenly find themselves facing a red stop light barely 3 seconds after exiting.
The signs should be sufficient enough to warn any driver. There's plenty of signs warning of a sharp turn and large reduction of speed, then there's the traffic light warning sign to let any motorist know that as soon as they turn, there's lights.
Notice the crashes on his previous video. Notice the empty roads. No traffic menas people go 10+ mph over the speed limit because they think it's safe. Also Notice the people crashing. Now consider this, going the posted speed limit is actually a good idea.
The exit is dark at the actual turn even in the daytime shown in this video. Most of the wrecks are shown to have happened at night. There also is no real indication of the sharpness of the turn and how short before the light which can frighten drivers.
(I find driving in dense cities not fun anyways, they can please build their car-free 15-minute cities, if we get to keep the highways and country roads and offroad trails, there won't be much loss of driving fun)
I passed an advanced driver test (in the UK) last year and my take on it is mainly a classic error. Too much speed, overestimation of skills, braking and steering (harsh inputs) upsets the car, possibly causing understeer/oversteer depending or into a general skid and most people don't know how to correct a skid, especially in the moment. I didn't until recently. It's quite easy once the principals are learned but on the road, in a panic and with no knowledge is of course a very different story. Now not to mention the reaction time of the driver, condition of the tyres, weather etc. But the fact there's a sign alluding to traffic lights and a blind corner means I'd personally be off the gas/braking for certain (but I am referring to a manual car) when approaching the "limit point" with caution because there could be anything the other side - cyclists, even someone in the road etc. Case in point, there are traffic lights in this instance. Just my take! So many factors apply but I've learned a lot from extra driving training and feel light years more safer and confident. No such thing as a perfect driver but drive safe everyone!
That's exactly my American take on this too, having only passed the basic NY State driver's test (17 years ago). I do wish our tests were more comprehensive though, it would weed out the more clueless drivers for sure. Did that course you passed have an effect on your insurance costs?
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Here’s the same exit at 65 mph until I pass the 2nd 20 mph sign.
The I5 Union Street Exit is hard to get to from Mercer Street South Lake Union on ramp. Maybe some of those cars are crashing after being frustrated with changing lanes 5 times at rush-hour !
the crash videos don't look like rush hour traffic. it's probably hard to build speed during that time.
LMAO, just came from watching the same compilation!🤣🤣
Looks like a bunch of idiot speeders that’s all. Can’t defend stupidness. For some reason everybody has to drive fast nowadays that’s why we have so many vehicle deaths
I think we can just safely call them morons for getting that bend so badly wrong 🤦
Please upload a video of the many steep hill streets Seattle has, it feels like hell every time driving on those streets. Also circular/roundabout exits/entrances of freeways.
So it IS possible to navigate this ramp without needing a trip to the body shop afterwards.......interesting.
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Quite intriguing
It is an interstate highway.. meaning lots of unfamiliar tourists come through there, driving 75 mph just a few seconds prior to the exit. And not paying too much attention to the ordinary signs.
Lol!
@@adamfirst9321 no way people are driving 75 on this stretch of I-5 any time of day!
but still they are ignorant of the signs and road conditions!
Thanks for sharing, I was super curious what this exit looked like after the crash compilation video.
Me too but except if they drive way over the speed limit, I don't get how they crash. Especially in rainy or icy days they need to slow down.
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@@Terminal-Thought-Experiment Excellent name. 😁
Me three 👍🏻
Looks like they need to bank the turn a bit..
and give more warning about the sharp turn into immediate city streets. The signs don’t seem to relay the dangers ahead.
there is someone out there watching this with no context and is really confused
i was waiting for something to happen
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I grew up in Houston. This video randomly popped up on my homepage and I have no context. So I expected it to be some crazy, impossible looking exit ramp. Got to the end of the video and said out loud "That wasn't even that bad??". 😅 Perhaps someone would like to direct me to the video y'all cane from?
@@mr.nobody6795Lookup "Cars taking the (I-5 South) Union street exit too fast" in the CZcams search. It should be the first result.
Yes, yes I am.
This highlights why reading road signs is just as important as your driving abilities. 99% of the time, they give you all the information you need. First, a sign before the exit says 30 mph, then right as you enter the exit, a sign says 20 mph. I feel like people tend to forget that literacy is a big part of driving.
It would be helpful if they ever removed the graffiti from the 20 mph sign. It's been years now
i'm sure they drive above 30mph.
@@song1861 based on the crashing compilation of this exit, nah, they don't lol
Funny thing is, I didn't even notice the mph signs. However, it should be common knowledge by now to take exits slower anyway.
Plus the big yellow arrow signs, if it's your first time on the road, always assume it's a hard turn and take it accordingly
In general, the more signage required, the worse the design. If you need to read twelve directional signs, and six speed signs, amid forty-five ads, then it isn't the driver's fault.
Thank you for confirming that most people are simply terrible drivers. Bonus points for demonstrating how to take the exit properly.
Luckily this driver didn't get horribly rear-ended
@T not knowing the street is MORE reason to be cautious. It also doesn't excuse ignoring signs telling you to SLOW DOWN!
@T You see the turn arrows, which usually indicates a pretty serious turn, you see a traffic light sign right there so be prepared to possibly stop, there's THREE signs indicating a suggested 20 mph turn, which should give you a clue on how sharp this turn is.
ALL signs are reflective. And you're exiting off a freeway,
No, this isn't "people don't know the street, the exits", this is people who are real new to driving in general, daredevils, or suck at driving.
I mean not really. A lifetime of driving and I have never seen such terrible city planning. This is probably the worst designed road of them all. That is a shockingly short off ramp and I've traveled the country and seen some really bad roads. We aren't talking about your typical crappy city roads. This is a highway off ramp that comes to a complete stop in a area smaller than a football field.
@@dontcare7086 "I'm a terrible driver."
-Don't Care
4 arrows signs, 3 speed limit signs, a traffic stop warning, and 3 exit signs. 500+ yards from the first sign according to Gmaps
0:00 Union St. Exit 165B Sign
0:06 Right Lane MUST EXIT sign
0:09 Union St. Exit 165B Sign #2
0:12 Exit 30mph sign
0:15 Exit Right Turn 20mph sign
0:20 Exit 165B sign #3
0:21 Incoming Traffic Light sign
0:23 20mph Right Turn sign + 2 right turn arrows
0:25 The 3rd right turn arrow
All within 500+ yards
All those probably seem like “normal” signage to some drivers who probably can’t even read the road, let alone traffic signs.
Given all the accidents. They need to give more dire warnings.
And banking that 90+ degree turn wouldn’t hurt either.
@@adamfirst9321you really think the 11 clear signs weren't enough?
@@austinkim9402
You really think the 30+ IDENTICAL incidents weren’t enough???
They can’t make an extremely dangerous and improper stretch of road, and try to make up for it by casual signage.
@@adamfirst9321 11 signs isn't casual signage. Those people were rolling in well above 50mph and honestly this isn't even a unique exit. There are a lot of short exits like those in la county.
@@adamfirst9321 Also these are, in your words, supposedly 30+ accidents amongs the hundreds and thousands of cars that pass through there daily.
Anyone who watches any crash complication videos knows this is the video we all needed!!🤟
It definitely is the fault of the drivers who hit turns going 50+ mph but it's also a terribly built exit. A sharp turn off the expressway into a stoplight just makes me cringe. I can imagine during rush hour that light causes backups into the expressway itself, making the traffic so much worse.
I dont even live in Seattle and I know this exit lol.
I agree, … but I don’t like compilation videos, I like them all individual videos, that way I don’t have to waste my time watch something over and over and over and over and over and over again, because it’s in ANOTHER compilation video)
Drivers who who insist on starring in compilation videos must live complicated lives.
@@SummerUntitled It's not just the sharp turn. It's the fact that it's a sharp turn, into a traffic light, out of a tunnel. One some days, you can easily get blinded by the change of light coming out of the tunnel. A lot of people forget about that.
Anyone who accelerates into a sharp turn deserves a Darwin award
Average American “intelligence” on display.
Average mustang owner as well
You're video is well-done, simple, and informative. It confirms what I already believed, that all the people who crashed are bad drivers.
TikTok'ers gotta TikTok
There's no good or bad drivers who crashes into this 90 degree exit. *It's more related on if the driver already took this exit or not.* Sometimes, when you take a curve fast, you must apply more speed to better control the turn. However, the problem with this exit, there's an intersection light right after the curve. So if the light is red, it's hard to manage this strong curve with speed, while trying to apply brakes at the same time. Nothing to do with good or bad drivers, unless you're a slow driver, and if it's your case, of course you'll believe all fast drivers are bad drivers. The exit is the problem, and the city knows it...
@Jags 6868 right? Anyone even a little competent would not crash here lol
it only confirms that they went to fast. and that is it!! greetings
@@blackberry8924 what are you talking about? You gotta be slow on curves, and to hell with that traffic light you ain't doctor strange to know what the color of the light is, you should just act only when you see it.
Big thank you to people like Jeff for sharing the driver pov 😎
You’re welcome on behalf of Jeff’s everywhere
@@jeffspruance9388 glad we could finally have a glimpse at what is widely considered the Most Dangerous Off Ramp in the United States.
Anyone else assume the highway prior to the offramp was a NASCAR circuit?
What we really need more are the crashers' POV. 🤣
Thanks for this POV video. I was curious to see the approach after watching all the crash compilation videos. It all makes sense now 😂
Thank you for this. I wondered what the hell all these drivers were doing that caused the stellar performances of their driving skills.
I came here out of curiosity from seeing everyone crash here and I was not prepared for how beautiful the first 10 seconds were. Vegetation over concrete will always be my favorite aesthetic
i will not lie i5 passing thru seattle is honestly a pretty decent example of somewhat ecobrutalist architecture, and because of it's visible age and some graffiti to spice it up here and there i think it works wonderfully. the james street exit (iirc, if not one of the other downtown exits) is a good one for that
Thats my favorite thing about Seattle, any spot that could have greenery has it
@@labetree5362 just like any spot that can fit a crack head, fits a crack head
That’s a joke right?
@@labetree5362 yea and human feces
This just proves why my number 1 rule when driving is: ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE IS INCOMPETENT!!
When you put yourself in less situations to have to trust other drivers abilities, the better off you’ll typically be. Absolutely no way anybody should be crashing here.
Thank you, for accurately describing my underlying intuitions, heh lol but in all seriousness. this is absolutely right, you physically cant tell what the "weather" on the road is going to be, for every trip you take, down to every turn you make. until you look forth, and discern the details of the environment, in the few hundred feet and the few seconds you're given, to be able to drive safely.
the way i like to put it is: the road is like the governments house; they're never there, they dont care and they're easily irritated when having to deal with it. sure the word house isnt accurate, but its said to emphasize the property aspect and how wasteful large roads are, then when you put them around every corner of your city, yeah big brain. houses themselves are physically banned from using their entire property simply because of the existence of the road- it makes driving "feel" safer because you can see around the corner of a stop sign. which was ultimately debunked because suburbs have awful vehicle-injury rates
Not to mention exits like this are everywhere, I don't know why people are hitting such a clearly visible sharp turn at such speeds. Use your eyes lmao. Even if it wasn't a sharp turn, why are people exiting at what seems to be like 60+ mph.
@@robbylawlor4259 might be due to how long the car is driving straight compared to when it entered the ramp/ exit lane. some people get really accustomed to over-accommodating freeway ramps
makes you wonder why we don’t just have public transit
People are generally decent drivers, but some people shouldn't to able to own a license for sure. I avoid an accident at least once a day commuting back and forth. Stay vigil!
Just watched the crash compilation the other day. I'm a Californian who used to do food delivery in Seattle and every day Washingtonians showed me new and exciting ways of driving that any normal person would be ashamed of.
As a Seattle native who moved away, the worst of those "seattle" drivers are California transplants, not Washingtonian.
I visited California once. Californians showed me new and exciting ways of driving that any normal person would be ashamed of.
funny coming from a californian
Its actually just California driving from the 90s
They all moved here
I lived in Seattle Metroplex in 2000. at 00:38 that part of the drive with all the trees and vines over growth is amazing,...and then you get down town.
Ah thanks for that. I was also curious to see what the exit looked like after watching the crash videos and was going to look on Streetview, but your video shows it clearly. it's quite a sharp bend. After travelling for many miles at speed on a freeway you need to adjust to slower driving quite rapidly here. 30mph can seem like walking speed after a long drive on a freeway and I think that is what is catching these drivers out.
yeah, but that seems like a very normal exit at least for the highways here in Europe.
Are sharper bends that uncommon over there?! We have a ton of exit-bends here that only allow you to go 25 mph...
Never been to America so I don't know. In England we have yellow lines across the road for about a quarter of a mile which get closer together as you approach a roundabout or whatever on a fast road. They give the illusion that you are going faster than you actually are and make you brake. They really are effective.
The exit lane leading up to that bend is quite long, more than enough time to adjust your speed plus there are warning arrows to indicate a tight bend, anyone who doesn't realize they cant get round that bend at highway speed is an idiot and shouldn't be driving
It’s pretty hilarious watching the crash video back after this. What are those drivers thinking?
@@heene That sounds like good design.
It's honestly not that bad, the thing that always throws me off my guard is the light IMMEDIATELY after the turn. People just need to slow the hell down while driving, it's not a race and the world does not rotate around your daily appointments. Notice it's gotten worse after the pandemic, people seem to have forgotten what safe speeds are.
People are dumb and have no sense of time. They will speed down the street just to end up at the same red light as traffic that is going a safe speed and still think that they are getting ahead. Only thing they're ahead on is their next brake job
and really if you slowed down enough to survive the turn you are going slow enough to easily stop at the red light. or at least I would think you would be
Yeah just driving the speed limit opens you up to road rage
Well you're coming off the freeway where you're going 60mph so normally you'd have a bit more of an off ramp to slow down. If they slow down more it screws up the flow of traffic on the freeway. It's worth it to slow down for sure, but it's not intuitive
I've seen a few comments about the need for rumble strips, but what would be a better option and immediately noticable to anyone taking that exit is the type of electronic sign showing the exit ramp speed limit with flashing yellow lights on the outer edges of the sign. Nobody would be able to say they didn't see that!
Thank you. I was very VERY curious after watching all the crash compilation videos
I read “Edit” and not “Exit” so I thought I was going to get some kind of phonk mashup of different freeways when I clicked on this video.
I didn’t expect a simple exit with only traffic sounds, but I wasn’t disappointed. This is a good vid.
Honestly, you're brave for showing everyone how this exit looks cus you really taking the risk of getting smacked by another car that's behind you not paying attention and looking at the road signs that are visible on the exit. You a real one 😂
Exactly my thoughts... I could never be at ease waiting at a green light at that intersection.
@@ztsb_koneko drove to work everyday here for years...I never seen anything. this is why anecdotal evidence should never be taken as fact. it's dangerous yes but it's a compilation for a REASON...for fucks sake
I've taken that exit more times than I can count, never had a problem. The light right at the intersection threw me the first couple times though.
Me too but I realized there was always traffic so I don’t think I was going at high freeway speeds to begin with.
Being a nerd staying in a hotel in north Seattle I've taken that ramp to the convention hundreds of times without issue
Has something changed with that exit recently? I haven't been in that area in a long time but after seeing all those wrecks, I am confused if there are just a lot more bad drivers or something new with this exit.
the blind turn into a light has screwed me up the first time or 2. theres sometimes traffic backed up RIGHT after the blind turn. it can be sketchy. this video is also VERY light traffic for seattle lol
To be fair it only matters the first time since you at least somewhat know what to expect after.
I'm from half way around the world and I visited Seattle acouple months ago. The compilation video I saw before this sure did look similar! Now this makes so much sense! I did remember that place from somewhere!!!
I grew up in NYC and lived in Chicago, Norfolk, Honolulu, Philly and Seattle. I've never seen more accidents in my entire life than on this stretch of I-5 North going through Seattle towards Everett. I saw a guy on a motorcycle on the express lane in Seattle go flying through the air into the car next to me, my last week before I finally moved away.
Well that settles it. Seattle just does not know how to drive.
Asian drivers
@@bigol9223 that Seattles it
I too have seen the crash videos and was curious about this exit. It’s clearly marked with a safe speed limit. Not sure why people think they can still be doing 75mph 🤦♂️.
From the info I gathered, many of those signs are newer and were added after the rash of accidents.
@@roadrash76 this exit has been the exact same for 10 years now, the drivers have just gotten faster
@@captpatrick891 🤷♂️
@@captpatrick891 and they are on their phone more and the dashboard design is more distracting now
They be racing too much on The Crew 2, using guardrails to make faster turns lol
Thanks for giving us the full perspective of this notorious exit road.
People are just carrying too much speed into the exit.
No way...
The exit leads damn near dead into a wall, no wonder people are hitting it
Thanks for this perspective. One thing I haven't seen much talk of is the fact that the exit spits you out on the left side of a three lane road, and 95% of the time, drivers then want to turn right. So you come out of the exit and have to look over to the right and hope to heck there aren't cars and buses barreling down, blocking the two lanes you want to quick cross over so you can make your right turn.
Hike would that be different than any main one way city street?
Well it spits you out in the middle of downtown so you could always just take a right at the next block and go around? Losing you a whopping 15 seconds…
Should not be difficult to do when you’re already at a speed limit of 20mph
Thank you, your other video of people crashing after taking it too fast makes sense now seeing it from this way. That’s a harrowing turn right there! Geez don’t be in a hurry! Thanks for your content. Slow down people
The people who crash at this exit shouldn’t be allowed to drive. This is exactly how I navigated this exit when I was in Seattle. It’s no big deal.
97% of people In seattle shouldn't be able to drive. I dont know when you were last here but I feel like people being away from the roads during covid lockdown made people forget how to drive.
Good competition with nyc or la drivers lol
@@grimly105 Lol people always say their state or city has "the worst drivers" "virginia drivers" "montana drivers" but in reality, it's just all drivers, everywhere and anywhere, that shouldn't be allowed to drive
@@PhaseSeparationScience thats true, common sense is not as common as it should be.
Dude if you went to Seattle you’ll realize that no one in Seattle should be allowed to drive. I came from California and I now have yet to believe that California has the worlds best drivers. I’m sure Germany might be better but dude… also the pedestrians aren’t very smart either, I think they skipped the “look both ways before you cross” lesson
I doubt it would help much, but maybe if they also added a progressive amount of rumble strips prior to the turn, it might get those particular drivers to really slow down.
Yup
I don't think it would help at all and it would only annoy the other people that are actually capable of driving
@@whatusernameis5295 If you go slow, it doesn't annoy that much.
@@whatusernameis5295 i would think that annoying other people is far below in consideration compare to safety.
If the 20 fuckings signs don't get you to slow down nothing will
I'm so grateful you made the drive on this road so that I could see how on earth all those ppl were speeding and crashing on that bend happened...😂😂😂😂That crash compilation was excellent, best footage EVER💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿🤗
Came across this video first. Then saw the compilation. Good stuff. Those corners are unforgiving.
This is great! Thank you for noticing how many people were curious about what the ramp looks like, and then taking the time to film it for us. What a guy!
And we can leave comments on this video, where they were disabled on the crash video!
Drivers are not paying attention to the speed signs that are clearly posted to reduce speed. Driver's that crash are idiots and I hope are held 100% responsible for damages.
The signage is obviously not sufficient. I don't see how anyone could watch the videos and say that.
@@Memphian1000 Sometimes it's not enough to look, people have to see too.
Well, our Secretary of Transportation DID tell us roads are racist.
@@Memphian1000you must not drive in cities
the signs are sufficient. I drive a trk through 4 states and my eyes are always searching roadways for warning signs. low bridge, stop ahead, tight curve, lane change, speed drops etc etc. there's just too many dummies on the road not paying attention.
That was a lot more gradual than the compilation video made it seem. Not paying attention and driving too fast is almost always the case.
Thank you for this. It shows and helps explain why people get caught off-guard. We couldn’t see the reason why in the compilation.
What is there to be caught off guard about? Someone taking that exit is going right into downtown Seattle from the freeway. You can't just continue at freeway speed like there's a big long stretch with lots of time to slow down.
@@wet-read You’re right. They weren’t caught off-guard. They all deliberately picked that particular spot to to hit a wall.
That's it? Are you freaking kidding me? That? That's a typical exit in Boston. In fact, at least in Seattle they offer a speed limit. Sheesh. I though it had a loop or a corkscrew in the tunnel judging by the videos of cars being spit out inverted.
I thought it was " keep it above 60 if you want to live!" Oh wait that's a movie.
@@djslip_irie haha. Yes! Or 88 MPH in a DeLorean.
Being from Boston area too, I thought the same thing!
@@miketech79 hey neighbor! I've lived all over the US and have often thought of putting a neon sign on the back of my vehicle that said: Boston Driver: If I'm Driving Slow, You Better Stay Behind Me."
@@thomasmartin7425 LOL, Exactly... most everyone is doing generally 15-20 MPH faster than the speed limits in the Boston metro area. Storrow Drive, Big dig tunnels who follows those 40 and 45 MPH signs?
Hello curious gentlemen and ladies who were also curious about this exit after seeing a crash compilation.
Thank you poster
I didn't even get a crash compilation before this I just got this from nowhere.
Weird that I saw a TT video about this exit then came here to YT and only typed Seattle and it knew I wanted to see this exit!
Same
Just watched the one from the apartment, and now i have a view from the street itself. Thanks.
I noticed that the posted speed limit on the exit ramp is 30 MPH and then before the bend a sign indicates 20 MPH plus a sharp turn indicator right on the sign. Also underpasses like this, that don't get much direct rain to wash away surface oil can get extra slippery. If it hasn't rained in a while and then it only lightly rains the water on top of the accumulation of oil can potentially make the roads even more slippery. Slowing down and situational awareness helps a lot.
Yeah, I was noticing that, myself: When I went looking for the crash compilation video (I saw this one first and had no context), most of the crashes looked like the pavement was wet at the time, which reduces braking effectiveness rather a lot.
Yep. Same thing (maybe worse) in Oakland/East Bay. Oil builds up for months and even the slightest shower turns the freeways into high speed slip-n-slides. Nobody slows down until physics takes over. Usually with sub-optimal results. I
This is Seattle. Unless it’s July-early September, there’s no such thing as having not rained in awhile. And it practically doesn’t rain at all for that period, so realistically there would only be a couple days a year where this could happen.
@@c182SkylaneRG most of the crashes looked like the pavement was wet at the time because the pavement in Seattle is wet most of the time.
@@Loj84 Most of the crashes looked like people just SUCK and can't follow directions. I've taken that exit multiple times as a passenger and driver. Didn't wreck my car or run a stop light.
I wanna preface this by saying that while I am a civil engineer, this is is a reflection primarily of my view on civil and transportation engineering and not adhering to a strict set of guidelines. The exit is bad, simple as that. If an exit requires exceptionally more signage than usual and has numerous severe accidents resulting from it, especially involving cars that are stopped and have no way to prevent being badly rear ended, then it's a bad exit. I'm going to assume the alignment (shape of the road) is old and therefore drivers may have had an easier time with less phone distractions and slower cars. However, it doesn't justify the exit as it. I understand people calling drivers dumb who get into accidents here but if engineers thought like that then most humans would suffer needlessly. You can never assume perfect or even average conditions. Take for example the reaction time used in transportation engineering for calculating stop sign distance. It's anywhere from 2.5 to 9 seconds. This is awful. Most people can reaction in a half second to a second at the latest. But take your eyes off the road for a second to change the radio or look at the text that just popped up or perhaps the driver is elderly or impaired. You soon realize why the time is as conservative as it is. I don't have a solution because I'm not a professional transportation engineer in Washington who knows the site conditions. But regardless, it's easy to tell this I'd a bad exit.
civil engineer aka glorified government bureaucrat with a little bit of ergonomics/city planning sprinkled in lmao
the main problem for me is the stop light after, engineers should remove it and require other side roads to stop
it doesn't take a civil engineer to recognize the exit is poor. doesn't matter. if drivers read the signage it wouldn't be a problem. let's spend millions of dollars to adjust or completely close this one exit so that the handful of people that can't drive get to continue not knowing how to drive.
@@gamma00crucis Are you going to say that to the people sitting in the stoplight at the end who get hit by cars screeching out of that exit? Road planning (like most things) doesn't work with that kind of attitude because when someone is maneuvering two tons of metal hurdling across the pavement at 60 mph and they fuck up, other people get hurt or die.
Big respect for your intelligent insights
Holy crap, all that excitement from such a simple turn
Cool Christmas layout and I love your Halloween ghost flying above the train,
I commuted to my job in Seattle for 25 years. The clustered exits and entrances thru downtown are a problem primarily because of impatient, reckless drivers whose aggressive tactics cause most of the collisions.
2003. My brother, Mum and I are headed to Bremerton Raceway. We want to catch the ferry over. My brother sees this exit. It's the one we need. We're in the correct lane but going I-5 speed not exit speed. He undercuts the corner and as we straighten out he jams the brakes. We slid, in his 1987 5.0L 5 speed Mustang, up and through this light.
Fast forward to 2005 and coming down fir a Seahawks game. Dad, brother and I. Dad driving a 1994 Ford Explorer. Dad takes this off-ramp and drives, sedately, to this light. My brother and I were amazed at how far down these lights actually were.
Made both events safely btw.
this exit has been there for a very long time then
@@vlz.matthew AFAIK the exit is as old as I5, which was built in the fifties. Presumably the exit was covered in the eighties when the Seattle Convention Center was built.
I remember taking this exit in like 2008 or so, and I remember going just a slight bit faster than I should have. Even at 30, it's that sudden change from dark to light that gets you. This was before they added some better signs too.
Always, ALWAYS pay attention and don't over estimate your driving skills.
I just saw a tiktok of so many crashes happing here…glad I saw this POV and realized some people just don’t know how to drive
So, you mean to tell me…people are literally crashing because of this exit?? Their license should be revoked 🤦🏽♂️
Naa. They should get the death penalty. Putting innocent life on the line cause they don't want to slow down at a turn.
Oh. The crash compilations are fun to watch on this
@@johnrambo1349 god you’re dramatic
@@itsurboidonnie its all fun and games till its your family that gets kills by these idiot drivers. Then you will say, why didn't we bring back the death penalty.
@@johnrambo1349 bruh moment
My grandma used to live in the Seattle area along with some of my aunts, and we would go visit every year. We didn’t often get off on union street, but this was still a nice walk down memory lane.
Thanks for making this! I wondered what the build up was like. Seems kinda normal except it swings at the end with a bit of fishtail if you're speeding, tho
I'm also here after the crash compilation video. I was really curious how the road looked like leading to the exit. The comments on that video was disabled so we had no idea what was causing the accidents. Thank you for showing us 👍🏻
Always a sad day when comments are disabled. Immediately wanted discourse and discussion after watching that crash compilation video.
I am away from Seattle for a couple of years on studies and it's
simple little clips like this that keep me in touch.
As well as the crash compilation of the same exit.
gardener of that little strip at the wall comes by every week and goes "aw man, not again!"
This just seems like a normal exit! That crash compilation video made it seem like there were banana peels all over the road 😂😂😂
Wow!! People who are crashing into this Exit should have their license taken away. I thought this would be a difficult corner, but after finally seeing this, its obvious the people that are crashing can't drive, read signs, or know how to slow down
Kind of like the Milwaukee Roundabout!
They should station a DOL employee right there to revoke their licenses.
It's really not that bad you just can't exit at 70mph and ur fine.
Most people in Seattle can’t drive anyways so you’ll be taking a lot of licenses away
The signs are new. The exit is not designed properly
Thanks for the vid.
It's a sharp turn for sure, but as a Western Washington resident, the issue is that 50%+ of the people here SUCK at driving, hell even me included occasionally. It's quite obvious that you should slow down, there's really not much of an excuse in my opinion.
I agree 100%. It's unfortunate that most people that speed don't seem to care about their own life and others as well.
Agreed. Washington state is filled with some of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen.
Each snow “storm” (storm… HA. Try living in Michigan in winter or Ohio where we get hella lake effect snow..) brings accidents like mad. People drive too damn close here, they don’t pay attention. Idk if it’s all the drugs here or what, or too many Californians, but yeah-trash driving.
I can second this. I can recall several times I almost got ran over due to speeding drivers in a parking lot in Washington state.
As another western Washington resident, it was shocking how much more pleasant it was to drive in Idaho, eastern Oregon etc when I drove on my first road trip. People there actually get out of the left lane on the freeway and let you pass. It’s a beautiful sight.
Literally I saw the crash compilation and I was wondering why they were crashing so much, I returned to the CZcams homepage and this video was first lol
Incredible footage! 💯
Increasing the length of the ramp and moving the reduce speed sign back further and putting some flashing lights around the speed limit signs would probably help. Maybe also having the stoplight ahead sign on the wall with the arrows might better help alert drivers to the light being around the bend
Maybe they should have Mama come hold their hand through it as well! 🤣! Sorry, imo everything they've already done is plenty enough; people have become WAY TOO COMPLACENT while driving... period! It doesn't matter if it's a street, freeway, highway etc, People seem to be more reckless in general all you can do is a drive as defensively as you can and pray you're not going to cross paths with these clueless drivers today!
Your part of the problem.
Absolutely. If dozens of drivers are crashing it’s an obvious city planning failure.
@@jamesrobson5967no the city should make it idiot -proof
All they would need to reduce accidents here is a combination flashing amber/30km/hr warning sign on the overpass leading under the bridge. Problem solved. People tend to take those speed limit signs far more seriously when they are marked with a flashing amber warning light. You only ever see them on a speed limit warning sign on a curve that has a history of crashes. Such an easy fix.
I was thinking a flashing light might help too. It's not a defective interchange design, but somebody is going to die there. I notice quite a few cars in the crash video ended up where pedestrians could be standing.
Seattle. Flashing lights are a symbol of systemic oppression.
Wrong. Go to the 11 foot 8 bridge youtube. Flashing lights and warning signs absolutely don't help bad drivers. Either you are paying attention or you are not.
If multiple reflective bright yellow neon signs don't do it, adding lights won't either. It's just that simple.
@@genogrinberg6014 do you think the 11'8" (+8 now) bridge should remove the flashing lights, barriers, signals, and trip sensors? Clearly people keep hitting the bridge so they should just take them out, right? Just because something won't prevent EVERY crash doesn't mean it's not helpful, or worth doing.
@@mogwix that's not my point. The point is that normal drivers don't have issues with this exit. Only bad drivers do. The signs wouldn't help the drivers who already take the exit properly and it's not going to stop people who aren't paying attention.
So... this explains the compilation video just suggested to me by CZcams! That's crazy!
Funny, this is the video I never needed to watch but glad I did and knew what it was from.
This the infamous "everyone takes the turn too fast" off ramp? 😂 Thanks for posting.
If I'm ever in Seattle--and I really would love to visit someday--I think I'll immediately take that right onto 7th after exiting, just to get the hell out of dodge. That exit could only be a two-step sort of thing for me... 😅
Thanks for the video!
THANK YOU, I always wonder what it looks like from the drivers point of view, and now I only PARTIALLY understand why there are so many accidents. I still don't see how they miss all those obvious signs.
Now this is some interesting news. Thank you for sharing. I was wondering what it was like to take the exit. That’s crazy. They need to redo
Thanks for the run through. This confirms my original suspicions on viewing the crash compilation video; that a lot of drivers are really just stupid.
Came here after the crash compilation videos. Thanks for sharing this!
This video found me I didn’t search for it but some how it answered a burn question I had after watching a previous video regarding this exit and the many car accidents it has witnessed 😂😂😂
Idk how it works there but the issue that I can see is that here in Australia we have two types of speed signs limits and recommendations, so people are usually conditioned to read the recommendation as it is such a common occurrence on turns and exits and decide on there own driving to take the corners disregarding the suggestions. So when a case comes along like this exit where the recommendation is more like a speed limit sign people disregard and continue at the speed limit causing a crash. That’s why extra emphasis on the speed change must be made like flashing ambers to help people understand this is not a typical recommendation
I lived in Bellevue for 3 years and these signs are pretty new, still you should never go barreling down an exit regardless of angle! The amount of people who get in crashes in Washington, who have lived their whole life in the area and should know the weather and road layout blow me away.
rumble strips and a flashing speed limit sign is required for this exit.
Exactly. Why is the WSDOT or road commission so inept on how to warn drivers?
@@arrowdog8852 the money to install said items shd b collected from the crashers!
Speed Bumps!
Thank you for the POV.... And proving people are stupid. There's nothing dangerous about this exit, except for the idiots speeding.
Anyone else notice the guy hiding while waiting for the green light? He knows a car can come flying at any time.😂
Man, thank you, I was wondering how "bad" this exit must be to have all those accidents. There is penalty enough space to slow down there.
Thanks for posting, the other crash vid made me wonder what all the crashing was about. Nice to see that it's in Seattle, what the citizens have allowed to happen to their city over the last two years makes it hard to have any sympathy for anything that happens there.
I actually want to believe that all of these different crashes are really a part of a very esoteric, high-level “dynamic art installation “; a very well-coordinated, interpretive performance of what has happened to downtown Seattle as a whole!
The hanging traffic lights baffles me. Never seen one before. Interesting
This kind of reminds me of the Lincoln Heights exit on I-75. That's a 10 mph curve.
I remember this exit when I was in Seattle in 1999. I thought it was rather cool how one went from dark to light into the City immediately.
I always thought it was so cool having the freeway run under the buildings like that. I’ve never been in the convention center but I’ve ridden under it in the car several times
The pov shows that it’s undoubtedly drivers fault who seems to speed more as they get in the exit lane.
"Oh its the exit from the crash compilation I was watching earlier"
What kind of terminal subculture has youtube directed me into.
Do I deserve to be here?
Ah, so that's what the fuss is all about. The 30 mph sign is right there.
I can only imagine the carnage that this exit would cause in Houston. They have their own version of Sammy Hagar's song there. It's just "I Can't Drive."
Thank you. After viewing the video of the crashes, this video confirmed my suspicions: the vehicles that crashed were being operated by idiots who failed to adhere to the bright yellow signs indicating a right curve and the speed to which drivers are to exit.
Lol, I'm here after watching accident compilation, and honestly since it's not new at this point I did expect to see few big yellow boards with text like: "DUDE! ACCIDENTS! SLOW THE EF DOWN!" 😅
they must’ve been speeeding off the exit, because this look like a smooth ride. 😂😂
The trees mixed in with the city landscape on that exit was beautiful. is the rest of Seattle like this? if so id love to visit one day.
A good portion of seattle is like this yes, but it’s hard to see from the video just how much litter is in the road or that every building looks exactly the same aside from downtown seattle
Love how desperate I was to see the actual exit after the crashes. I see that a dumb driver can easily crash because it comes off a fast road and seemed wet but at the same time it’s probably common sense to slow down especially when entering a sharp turn with a traffic light warning ahead.
Not only that, but a downtown urban area. You can't just go at freeway speed into such an area. Why do people need signs to figure that out?
Thank you for driving at a reasonable speed given the wet conditions. Ppl these days man…
Interesting exit!
A couple of things
1) the lighting looks horrendous imagine going into a dimly lit tunnel and then exiting only to be flashbanged by a light going round a turn.
2) Is there a "no trucks allowed" signage earlier? Cause that looks like a nightmare for trucks
3) Overall looks like it was designed well given the space they had and they didn't need to extend it. Not too overly complicated or dumb additions making it less effective than needed.
It could use more signage, like red flashing lights to show how sharp that curve is and how fast you really need to stop. And yes, it was cool to see this angle after watching the crash videos.
The issue is not the sharpness of the curve, but the sudden appearance of the traffic signals as you go around the curve
@@ArtStoneUS It also looks like the curve happens right after you get off the freeway, forcing you to go from 70-ish to 20, as the sign says!
signs don't help the stupid. Look at the canopener bridge.
I have never seen a highway exit connect directly into a stoplight intersection as abruptly as that.
Maybe the length isn't long enough, and coupled with the huge blindspot wall on the right, that might be what's catching drivers who suddenly find themselves facing a red stop light barely 3 seconds after exiting.
The signs should be sufficient enough to warn any driver. There's plenty of signs warning of a sharp turn and large reduction of speed, then there's the traffic light warning sign to let any motorist know that as soon as they turn, there's lights.
Notice the crashes on his previous video. Notice the empty roads. No traffic menas people go 10+ mph over the speed limit because they think it's safe. Also Notice the people crashing. Now consider this, going the posted speed limit is actually a good idea.
There are so many easily identifiable things wrong with that exit.
The exit is dark at the actual turn even in the daytime shown in this video. Most of the wrecks are shown to have happened at night. There also is no real indication of the sharpness of the turn and how short before the light which can frighten drivers.
I’d be super nervous parked at that red light thinking someone was about to smash into the back of my vehicle 😂
That's why I avoid driving my car in dense cities ✌
(I find driving in dense cities not fun anyways, they can please build their car-free 15-minute cities,
if we get to keep the highways and country roads and offroad trails, there won't be much loss of driving fun)
Anyone here from that TikTok
Eww no
I passed an advanced driver test (in the UK) last year and my take on it is mainly a classic error. Too much speed, overestimation of skills, braking and steering (harsh inputs) upsets the car, possibly causing understeer/oversteer depending or into a general skid and most people don't know how to correct a skid, especially in the moment. I didn't until recently. It's quite easy once the principals are learned but on the road, in a panic and with no knowledge is of course a very different story. Now not to mention the reaction time of the driver, condition of the tyres, weather etc. But the fact there's a sign alluding to traffic lights and a blind corner means I'd personally be off the gas/braking for certain (but I am referring to a manual car) when approaching the "limit point" with caution because there could be anything the other side - cyclists, even someone in the road etc. Case in point, there are traffic lights in this instance. Just my take! So many factors apply but I've learned a lot from extra driving training and feel light years more safer and confident. No such thing as a perfect driver but drive safe everyone!
That's exactly my American take on this too, having only passed the basic NY State driver's test (17 years ago).
I do wish our tests were more comprehensive though, it would weed out the more clueless drivers for sure.
Did that course you passed have an effect on your insurance costs?
Yes but that text these people crashing got is just so much more interesting then a silly old turn!
I was absolutely confused as to why this was in my recommended unit you turned the corner
Oh wait you can safely exit this ramp ? Lol. Thanks for this all the pieces connected