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I’m a Liverpool fan and I’ve watched this about 10 times now, they had so much time to stop the game it’s unbelievable!!!!
It’s actually painful to watch
It's literally like asking someone to watch the road because a truck has veered off and is heading for a collision and they keep saying "what, no it's not" and then "can't do anything". I am so glad Klopp threw the replay word around. Show them that we don't fear them. The clubs are the ones with the power
@@rushpan93 a replay would also benefit the GNP
The game was already restarted even before the replay operator said "wait, wait, wait". There was zero time to stop the game
@@yoonyulntaeny they are able to stop the game after 2 mins when it comes to a penalty, so why not this?
@@samueleeles-jp9ez No, not after 'stop and restart' only if there has been no restart then they can change the decision. This is under IFAB laws. Their problem is they rushed and restarted the game too quickly
What a shame to VAR officials 😢😢😢
#BoycottVAR
pay VAR more
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 buang atau rombak smua staff VAR yg takda intergrity yg bias. VAR tak salah manusia tu yg bang4ng, tambah2 howard webb plak directer bertambah berjangkit bang4ngnya.
@@eternalenvy9067tula teknologi dh bagus tp manusia yg kwl nye bengap mmg xle buat ape la
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 #Boycott_Human_VAR #AI_VAR_NOW
Replay Operator was in the right. He spotted the mistake, told VAR to delay to correct the decision. The ones who were in the wrong were VAR and VAR assistant.
After seeing the 2D line at 0:47, VAR started the mess by saying "check complete. That's fine" leading to the confusion.
After the Replay Operator told him it was wrong and told him to delay, VAR and his assistant again makes the wrong decision in letting the play run instead of bringing it back to allow for the goal. You could have told the ref and let the ref make the decision. They just assumed there "there is nothing we can do". But there was.
THEY SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO THE REPLAY OPERATOR
even if it's not his job, he did it better than those official clowns xD
In fact the replay also told the VAR that „Ole“ asks for delay. Apparently Ole is supervising the VAR work on that day.
What is weird is after all this, the ref clearly knew at half time there was a big mistake, but still decided to send of Jota
@@shazanali692they know sent off 1 Liverpool player will not be enough to make Liverpool lose so need to red card 2 players to be sure
Not allowed to bring it back and change decision after a restart. IFAB law
What a beautiful goal
A beautiful goal remembered for all the wrong reasons. Apparently the VAR officials wants more attention on them, at all cost.
At 0:15 Diaz scored a goal. At 0:50 we have a cut to the free kick. That is 35 seconds.
In real time, 39 seconds passed from Diaz's goal to free kick. So, there are four seconds missing in both audio and video.
If you listen carefully from 0:46 to 0:50, you can hear Darren England saying _"Check complete, check complete. That's fine, prefect. Off."_
"Off" is the exact moment where the audio has been cut, which leaves me wondering what does "off" mean? Is it "offside"?
If so, why has it been cut from the audio? Could it be that PGMOL is saving the VAR room from an even bigger outrage by trying to cover up the fact that England actually called offside, but they did a poor job at cutting up the audio?
Detective!
Trying to cover up their corrupt activities
Damn, its true.. there is missing part🤔🤔🤔
Thanks, mate! Good observation! 👍
I think the "...off" is from when they restart the clip after the edit, and that's not England's voice. However, they are clearly still hiding something, and that something is somehow worse than what they released.
Sepatutnya kena jerit "Tarik Balik!!" tiga kali berturut2.
Bagus ni kalau Replay Official jerit "Pungkoq hang la offside celah mana pak hang!!" 😂
I think only the Replay Operator should keep his job.
Even during the game I noticed that when they showed the screen they actually cut the VAR footage away before even bringing the lines up like they normally do during TV coverage. I knew something was fishy even right then and there. It's crazy. Even with the technology to stop robberies, teams can still be robbed.
Normally they switch the tv signal to the var screen so you watch the check in real time. I also believe commentators have an audio feed in real time from the referees and var room. So its odd neither of these happened.. oh and 2 red cards just to make sure of the outcome. Match should be replayed. All officials given 1 month ban from officiating yada yada.. snooker, tennis, don't let it happen to football
💯💯👊👊
The way the VAR & Assistant VAR answer to Replay Operator is like they just back from drinking session. 0:58 "Offside,goal,yeah" 1:17 "Pardon?" 1:31 "Oli?". Time wasted to correct the decision with all these blur answer from VAR & his assistant.
definitely needs to check their bank accounts. The way the rest of them except VAR officials noticed instantly that it was onside. Blatant corruption
Definitely they having beer and enjoying time at that moment
That's because they are confused why the Replay Operator is even talking
They acting like they dont know mistake has been made...clear match fix
if the goal was given the mood of this match will change..liverpool will be more determined to win the game..
LiVARpool denied a goal - Media Outrage
City on same day lose to Hwang goal who should have got Red - Media Blackout
Conspiracy Theory to call Media Corrupt?🤔
And it’s worse because Tottenham scored shortly after that. The Liverpool goal would have changed the game
No one cares about Liverpool 😅
Maybe, maybe not. That's why we play the games and award points accordingly, instead of guessing about how they might end.
Patut kalau kesalahan camni, club boleh demand utk dapat compensation. Maybe dr segi duit ke. 100k maybe or whatever amount. So setiap kali reff or var buat mistake, club akan dapat compensation. Takdela setiap kali benda ni jadi, pgmol buat statement & mintak maaf je. Sorry pun tak boleh bg point balik or rematch pun. Kalau player or manager buat kesalahan pun kena denda gantung match or denda bayaran duit. So fair la
Betul jugak tu
Setuju buat undang2 nih
tu yg masalah, kelab atau player kritik dorg ni, denda semua keluar bagai, bila bab dorg buat silap, minta maaf je, mana adil
tak boleh sebab human error is part of the game. memana sukan pun. kalau tak nanti takde sape nak jadi reff. pgmol pulak nak dapat dana dari mana? dorang sendiri dibayar utk officiate game. takde football club or football association pn akan kemukakan suggestion mcm ni sbb tahu tak make sense.
@@hilmywazza2551 tu just contoh je. Klau not impossible, boleh fikir idea lain utk improve. Kalau tak benda ni nanti jadi lg & boleh impact certain clubs in the future (and maybe dah penah jadi pun). Bayangkan kalau benda camni jadi time last EPL game. club tu kena menang or seri utk dapat title tp disebabkan incompetent reff & var + pgmol punya procedure yg tak transparent, dorg lost the title. Maybe boleh je transparent mcm ragbi buat. Boleh dgr ape yg reff discuss so takde la player & manager argue ttg keputusan reff
I'm still baffled by this whole situation. Just say that Diaz is ONSIDE. Not to mention, it's not like they can't stop the match. I mean, they once brought the players back on to the pitch after full time to take a penalty. Diaz was clearly onside for the whole world to see, had the ref just stop for a bit longer to look at the replay, this wouldn't have been such a massive issue. PGMOL are so damn incompetent.
Controversy goal
dude stop crying
@@starxhilmie kau nie apa kes? hisap gam ke sebelum comment...Gila
@@starxhilmie talk to the mirror bro.all true footballs fans behind liverpool this time. lain la kalau ko fans budak2 jenis nak troll je keje
@@ikhwanrosly8130 mungkin dia ni fan club yg disokong howard webb.
Corruption at the highest order. Darren England make a conscious decision for match fixing. Hint: He spent time in UAE right before the match.
Big statement
How did u make that assumption? All this audio shows is a big mistake was made. It may be intentional it may not be. But how did u reach the conclusion that its intentional?
From the tone of the VAR it is like “nope nope cant hear you moving on” energy to it. Not even a Liverpool fan but I’m fuming
@@sofnajicommon sense...
@@sofnajidoesn't matter, cause its the kind of thing that shouldn't happen unlesss... people can speculate
Some fans who lack thinking skills will assume it's about Liverpool being salty. Not realizing this same level of incompetence could impact their own team on a particular day. What happened would still be unacceptable if it happened to both Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Burnley etc.
Chill, Arsenal already got it once last year.
and can happen with other teams on the following games
@@powerrangers16712There's a difference between a season and a single game. Try remembering all that wrong decisions in from last season. Now imagine they all happen in one single game, lets say against chelsea.
Yup...as what Mark Goldbridge said..."it's not about Liverpool but football"...he's a diehard MU fan who put rivalries aside for the love of football
If it happened? It does happen. Man United gets one decision in their favour, then Klopp whines about it and United doesn't get a decision right for them for half a season after that last season. Onana doesnt get a penalty against him at the start of this season, people are up in arms and then the refs overcorrect and now United have had an obvious call go against them every game since that.
I've seen bad decisions go for teams all across the league. People shout corruption but to me it just looks like incompetence. The refs are all mates and they protect one another by justifying eachothers bad calls.
Walaupun sya bkn peminat Liverpool,tapi ini membuatkan sya geram dan marah,apalah sebut "check completed","check completed", sebutlah "its onside"²! ka apa ka
Kawan tu dh kata dh delay the game stop the game, otak dia can’t do anything bgtau jela reff on field tu stop the game, boleh je nk buat sbb xde big things happen pon lagi mcm penalty ke gol ke yellow card ke, so xde effect pon kalau stop the game
Bila ko dpt habuan tertentu..just go on janji,maruah tolak tepi😂😂
Game dah restart , x boleh buat apa ..
Pedih mat kena mcm nii😢
First time dengar audio sebalik tabir referee punya.. rupanya hidden hand ala2 hijack kapal terbang
Kat sini,silap lebih kearah ketua VAR dan penolong ketua VAR utk game itu.Replay Operator dah kata gol tu onside tapi mereka mcm tak endahkan.Mcm mana pengadil dlm padang nak dpt informasi ni kalau dlm VAR room tak bagitahu dekat dia.What a terrible mess. #VAROUT
Ada VAR dengan teknologi yang canggih pun masih salah keputusan pengadilan. Ketahian apakah ini tuan²😂 Tidak kompeten langsung, budak MSSM pun boleh jaga VAR dengan baik. Begitu sahaja Liverpool kena rompak😂 Bertabahlah sahabat² Liverpool semua. Dalam isu ini sy bersama kalian❤ #COYG
Can't do anything buto pak dia ..
#BoycottVAR
bila berlaku kat liverpool bising, bila jadi kat team lain, bagus dan cemerlang
@@starxhilmieapa benda kau ni..
VAR nk ckp function cam ye cam tak. Ntahla. Macam adil macam tak jugak adehh
the VAR referee that said "cant do anything" should be fired
Darren England. Not his first var mistake.
Klau dkt Malaysia dh Lama kena pijak 😂
check complete! money confirmed in
Oli who is the replay operator spotted the mistake and requested the match to be stopped but the incompetent VAR officials wanting to cover their asses said there's nothing they can do.
CORRUPTION!
oli is the fourth official, you too made a mistake like these refs.
@@wstew go and listen the audio again dumbo
only when it happened to liv its corruption
I saw episode of Aircrash Investigation similar to this where there was a misunderstanding with the control tower of the word Imperitive we get the plane down now (due to running out of fuel).
Liverpool are going on as if there's been a plane crash and it's never happened before in history - it happens every week (in football that is) !
The victim mentality is crazy. Decisions like these are horrible and infuriating, but like you said. They act like this happened to only them. Man United has gotten an obvious bad call go against them every game after the game where Onana got lucky to not get a penalty against him, but when Ten Hag or something says something about that he gets called out as ''having excuses'' but because Klopp & Co are everyone's darlings suddenly everyone is up in arms when it happens to them.
Not to mention all the bad calls bottom table PL teams often have to deal with because no one else but their fanbase seems to care about that anyways.
What happened before is that VAR made the wrong decision, PGMOL admitted it later. Never ever happened before where VAR made the right decision but communicated it poorly to the ref, which led to wrong decision on field. This is pure human error....
@@hkia7893 There are multiple pure human errors every gameweek now
Well done boys..good process.. HAHAHA
Is it the full audio ??? Sky sports saying the audio from the 4th offical was held back.
30 seconds have been cut from the middle.
at the same time it is kinda cool and ironic that you can communicate with so many people. Var, assistant var, on field referee, 2 assistant referees, even the 4th official had to say "yeah?" 😂 and the new thing that i learned is the reply operator.
I know that they show every referee names at the start of the game but i haven't really paid attention
Scarier than listening to a black box of an aeroplane crash
The voice of offside must be connected to betting companies just like what they do with hose racing when fav gate not opening
I think its time they put the screen to home n away teams so manager and their assistant also can overview to turn the referee decision whether it is offside/onside or any fault done by players..
It would end up causing a riot in the stadium. They will never do it in a English stadium.
Meroyaaaaannn sampai abis season....
Crazy day for Liverpool Fan That day,
Expletive!!
Sepatutnya semua org sokong Liverpool bantah var ni.. Liverpool xdpt advantage pun liv mintak forward improvement dari var utk semua kelab gak .ni baru minggu ketujuh tau setiap minggu ada ja keputusan kontroversi.kalau kelab x bersuara sapa lagi fans?? Diorg bukan hirau pun pasal pendapat fans..ni bila silap mintak maaf esok lusa ulang balik team lain pulak kena..
For sure the ref involved in fixing the match / game betting..
Howard Webb controlling PGMOL has made it a business. Anything turned to business is definitely with some corruption and misuse
You reckon they're conniving with sports betters then?
yeah and the earth is flat
proof that a proper, standardized, concise communication protocol is needed when dealing with high stakes event. learn from military/security forces radio communication protocol.
'Edited' audio has been released
This audio has been tempered with. This a lot of gaps here! the ref was against Liverpool all game
Elok buat macam open referee audio macam rugby, baru audience boleh tahu perbincangan mereka 😢
Replay operator really tried it
He's a Liverpool fan
Epic muppetry!
Monitor says checking disallowed goal but VAR thought goal was given. Apa kelanciaun ni. After game restart replay operator pointed out the mistake and yet VAR still don't know the ball didn't restart in the centre. Did they went straight to tea break after check complete? Kns
Ref afraid to admit his mistake and stop the game. Even MU got penalty after game has ended lol
the MU game was correct decision, thats the use of var in their early days.. but now it seems offf, cant even stop the game after the mistake
@@CameeR7 yeah thats my point. He sounds shaky af realizing his mistake, and chose not to admit it. Absolute joke
we all thought with the assistance of var, things could get easier for ref. but somehow it only makes it WORSE for those english ref.
the qatar wold cup var was alright, the UCL var was also alright, the UEL and conference league were all alright.
so why is it only EPL has the most issues with the var?
incomprehensible.
What do you mean MU got a penalty after the game ended? MU didn't get a penalty against Palace.
@@TheDutchyNLbro didnt watch football enough😂
“ I can’t do anything “ yes you can, stop the game, and award Liverpool the goal.
Des AMATEURS ! J aurais voulu voir si c était arrivé à une autre équipe ce qui se serait passé...
Liverpool must sue and get the 3 points back. One of the reasons Klopp is leaving is because of this.
At 0:49 there is clearly a cut to the free kick and a mysterious, “off”
I think we get what I’m saying
TEAM LAIN TAKUT NAK BANGKITKAN ISU VAR NI SEBAB TU TAK ADA. TAPI LIVERPOOL MINTA KERANA KEBENARAN
TMJ pn kata kalau bagi var kt orang tak betul ibarat mcm bagi kereta kt monyet
itu sebab england ramai benci fans liverpool bro,sebab liverpool je berani bersuara,nk hrp club lain mmg tk la semua kene ikat je..
@@FaizalMacho99pastu satu lagi info Liverpool club 😂 satu 2 klub yg benci england tk nyanyi lgu kebangsaan england respect hahaha sbb tu klub lain benci Liverpool
@@azrulshah4613 kau tau tk apa sebab,kenapa fans liverpool tk nyanyi lagu england ?
@@FaizalMacho99scouser not english. Mereka benci England sebab mereka dinafi hak asas berdekad dekad. Macam Sabah dan Sarawak diperlakukan oleh Kerajaan Persekutuan gitu
Duit full masuk poket ht jaga var tu😂
What does it means that officials was in THE UAE only 48 hours before?
Menurutku ini peringatan. Waspada ternyata mafia sepakbola belum hilang. Dan VAR mungkin masih ada celah. Itu menurut aku.
"It's Disgrace, it's a F****** DISGRACE"
Famous Quote
Fired them !!!
People don't know anything about the problem and why a replay match must be held, so I'll explain why. It's not about judgement of red card, handball or something like that, in which referee's judgement is involved and can be controversial, but by referee's call, it's decided. In this VAR case, VAR referee, who was in charge of the judgement of onside or offside, called it was onside, which means a goal, but the goal was disallowed. You know, when it comes to red card or handball, the on-field referee sometimes checks the video himself, which is the on-field check, but when it comes to onside or offside, the on field referee doesn't check it. Why not? Onside or offside is just a technical issue without human judgement involved. Just draw a line and you see. If it's onside, onside. If it's offside, offside. No human judgement involved at all like the goal line system. You guys know about the goal line system, right? It alarms the referee that it's a goal when the ball crosses the goal line. It's the totally same situation as when the goal line system calls that it's a goal but the referee disallows the goal. Can you accept it?
When you listen to the audio at no time has either team confirmed what exactly they are checking for. The biggest culprit is Assistant Referee 1 because it is he who calls all the play back. Assistant Referee 2 initially gives the goal. He says "give it". Everything then becomes a total confusion between Assistant Referee 1, the on pitch referee, the VAR anaiyser doesn't tell the referee what they are looking for is it on-side not off-side which is what the match referee thinks they are checking for. They did check for the off-side and did not confirm with the on pitch referee that they had checked for Salah and Diaz being off-side and that they weren't and at that point they should have told the referee we are now checking for onside, please wait for confirmation. When VAR says "Check complete check complete that's fine perfect" Assistant Referee 1, who initially pulled the play back, doe's not explain that Diaz is on-side give the goal, the referee thinks its off-side still because that's what he thinks they have been checking for and so begins the play from the wrong off-side position anyway. I would suggest this is Howards Webb's fault because he has allowed this methodology to exist for all this time and we now know why VAR keeps getting so many decision wrong. Howard Webb doesn't know what he is doing. He does not know how to get the interaction between these 6 different people, whom have to communicate between each other, concisely in a very short period of time to get VAR to work.
The problem is the SCRIPT. CHECK COMPLETE could mean anything. He should've said CHECK COMPLETE. ONSIDE ONSIDE. And the referee only mentioned offside once. He should've said ON FIELD DECISION. OFFSIDE OFFSIDE. There is no charity.
I can't believe that a disallowed goal + 2 sent offs because of VAR mistakes is coincidental - this is a plot to stop Liverpool
That's why they are really dirty, disgrace to football
Take your pills mate. If it was a plot to stop Liverpool only Liverpool would get bad decision against them, it happens all over the league.
@@TheDutchyNL i think you are the one who’s missing his pills mate, it affects!
Not a single error that match against Spurs for 90 min and yet some idiots think it is normal
@@TheGuitarWorkshop Did you not read my previous comment? This happens all across the league, if it was a plot to stop liverpool it would only be decisions that affect Liverpool negatively. The refs ar either a incompetent bunch protecting one another, or they are having the balls to do sports betting under our noses. There is no plot to stop Liverpool, that's victim mentality.
@@TheGuitarWorkshopcry about it then
fifa officials: "having VAR will fix the game"
VAR:
Tarik balik..tarik balik..tarik balikk.. ehhh..tu teriak ex-menteri 😅
If this incident happened in a corporate environment, these guys already been asked to either tender resignations or be sacked.
As a ref, you must To be honest keep watching the VAR . All the fans buy ticket with money not free !!
-Are you happy with this?
-yeah
Why he said can't do anything. Already ask for delay.......
Omg
Menang pun nasib..own goal...lepas tu celebrate mcm dah menang EPL..APTB....🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Sangat nasib baik
Biasa lah bruhh😂lawan team kuat kot mesti lah diorang celebrate diorang tk mmpu klahkan 11 pemain Liverpool 😂kena minta bantuan ref
Referee punya telinga tak berapa clear kot..lama tak korek..onside dia dengor offside😂
Woww. !!!!!
Dspointed...!!
masa 1:17 bola pun tengah keluar boleh je nak notify referee utk stop game. Bknnya dah lama sngt pun.
⚽️🌼
Whenever VAR doesn't go their way
There are so many things wrong with the way this team have operated VAR and communicated between each other that they all need re-training or removing from the VAR team altogether, because this is a shambles. Even the referee assumed that Salah was off-side because the free kick was taken from Salah's last kick of the ball position and it was Diaz that was suppose to be given off-side. The referee has assumed that Salah is off-side but how can Salah be off-side when he has a spurs player in-front of him when he plays the ball.
The VAR ref was quick to refuse delaying / stopping the game once they have realized their error. The fairest outcome for everybody would be to replay the match from the incident (Liverpool 1-0 up with 10 men). I think Tottenham fans would also agree to this.
Sack the buggers
Spurs fans are idiots. They will not want a replay.
They could have even told the ref they messed up. Explain to the managers and then for Postelegou to allow Liverpool to score to make it 1-0 as it should have been. But easier said
@@AdRedOne have you been reading Stephen Warnock by any chance..........
@@jameskid81 haha that video of the panel standing in front the tv? 😂😂
we need 2 points from var
😢😢😢😢😢😢❤
he already said delay the game .. stop the game ... why reff still continued the game?
Give them truth results!!!
Fired them 😂
también es curioso que Luis Díaz y los demás no le exigieron Var al árbitro, como se hace usualmente incluso en un fuera de lugar más claro.
This is a rugby match…
“Hi mate I’ve whistled for offside can you check for a reason I can’t award a goal.”
“Alright we’ve checked and the player is onside, he then scores, no foul in the build up, you may award the goal”
“Ok I may award a goal?”
“You may”
Liverpool still lose because butterfly effect 😂😂😂
Has to be a rematch
THE THREE STOOGES OF MODERN ERA....
😮
Should've stopped it the moment the ball went out for that throw-in ...but bottled and wet himself hence the bleeping and he knew it...they still haven't learned anything from that moment and it's still happening.
Kena rompak
VAR and VAR Assitant definitely get some dough in their bank account 🤣 even me as a Liverpool rival club fans can tell they have hidden agenda
Just the classic communication error of two different assumptions of the starting point of the discussion (goal allowed or disallowed) followed by too simple affirmative answer "Check complete, that's fine, perfect". Then accumulated with the fast restart (if a goal had been given, there would have been another 30 seconds before the game restarted) - but that is not a root cause.
Simplest fix is that VAR should state always fully the outcome of what they checked: "Diaz was on-side".
Can't they program a computer to do this by now
I'm pretty sure both VAR and VAR assistant made things confusing to make excuses for them. They knew for sure that this issue will be openly investigated. They planned to minimise their cor**** as human errors
Kalau siapa pernah kerja dengan mat saleh ni, dua orang bukan bagus mana pun. Tapi bila jumpa je how are you sir... Mcm zaman jww birch.. 😂
Not a surprise lah, it's Howard Webb lorr
the game was over a long time ago...get life!!!
Aku bukan fans liv tp kalau tgk epl game so far aku rasa liv ni bole jadi champ epl this year..gameplay dorg padu..2 red card pon mcm main 11 org..nasib je tak menyebelahi 😂
*Freaking match fixing!!!*
*The audio has been cut!*
I'm Manchester fans.. its obviously not Offside & need to change staff who handle VAR system.
Who said "off" at 0:49?
Yg bagi amaran pun macam nak tak nak je. Patut jerit.... stop! Stop! Tarik balik tarik balik
Badut Sarkis,mana reti Nak jerit2 camtu
You shaw about that decision.!!! It was a goal!!!
Please sue them..😤
Assistant VAR dude must have dozed off.
Jetlag from his uae trip the day before
so how?need to rematch?
VAR official says "Check complete" leading the center to assume their on pitch call of offside was confirmed. Communication sucks. They rush to keep the flow of the match going