Bob Marley Snare Sound - SECRET - Carlton Barrett - Aston Barrett Jr
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Trying my best to show how I managed to get my snare to sound close to Carlton Barrett's - the original drummer for The Wailers, currently replaced by his nephew, Aston Barrett Junior, son of Aston "Family Man" Barrett
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For someone who isn't a drummer , that's a very good reggae beat
I thought so too. Better than me lol
Correction: the Ludwig Supraphonic Aluminum snare I mention has 14'' in diameter -- but I meant to say 6.5'' depth
Memory got confused, and not versed with inches that much.... Long live the metric system!
Just woulda add that by listening to dozens of Carly reggae recording, not only with Marley, but with many obscure jamaican artsits, I realised that most of his snare tunnnings range from G to A notes, sometimes even higher as A# and that's a very important factor in his tunnings. Totallly agree with the tape put on the bottom head, but it is also worth test different amounts of tape and also different positioning of it. Note, I'm also a reggae keyboard man with passsion for Barrett snares.
Awesome Gianni, thanks for your valuable comment and insights! The tunning is definitely important and it's something I didn't consider - thanks for pointing it out!
Great video. Carlton Barrett is one of my all-time favorite heroes. He jump-started every song, and doesn't get close to the credit he deserves. Thank you for sharing!
@Chip Olmstead Carlton Barrett is my favorite reggae drummers of all time. What I like about Carlton Barrett is that at times he uses cowbells to add a little Latin sounds to his drumming. Not that many reggae drummers can do that.
I love his hihat groove on the likes of running away and crazy baldheads. I also love carltons drum fills, they are so unpredictable, they accent on different rhythms to what you'd expect. It goes hand in hand with Bob marleys voice which is also quite unpredictable rhythmically..
@@tguthrie6 I have also seen Carlton Barrett using Yamaha drumkits and also Yamaha wooden snare drums when he and his brother Aston (Family Man) Barrett were playing in a band called the Upsetters with Lee Scratch Perry during the 1960's and also in the late 1970's and early 1980's shortly before Bob Marley passed away. Of course the main snare and drumkit that Carlton Barrett used was definitely Ludwig when it was available. Some of the drumkits that Carlton Barrett used were rental gear.
@@tguthrie6 Carlton Barrett also used cowbells when he played in concerts. The Bob Marley song called One Love/People Get Ready and also the other song called Who That Cap Fit, Carlton Barrett adds the cowbell to his playing on the drumset in those recordings in the studio.
@@tguthrie6 Carlton Barrett was one of the greatest drummers of all time in reggae music. He and another Jamaican drummer named Sly Dunbar are on the drummer 100 magazine.
Oh wow I underestimated how tight the batter has to be, incredible sound
Cool video, try using a Remo CS black dot clear. They both use clear un coated snare heads. I went on this journey a while back and got pretty close to the sound.
" RUMPLE JACK " Is the name we gave to the Signature Reggae Snare Drum by Carlton Barrett .
Songwriter-kim East Africa Kenya
Thanks for posting that. I always thought he (Carlton Barrett) was using a timbale but I had my doubts. Nicely done. You're drumming sounds good too.
Hey JJ . Carlton's first drums , were a set of " Empty Paint Tin Cans ".
No wonder the snare drum sounds " Tinish "
Songwriter-kim East Africa [ Kenya ]
I have a 5.5'' x 14 Ludwig Supraphonic 1971--- gonna try this! Great presentation--- your are a great drummer for not being one. Appreciated!
Thank You Joe Ricthie. Much Appreciated....
sounds just right dude, well done!
Beautiful tuning
Very helpful video brother. You answered all my questions.
thankyou.......I like your drumming
Dead on perfect sound. Thanks for the video!
Right on the spot!
Just Great!,your right
That is the sound!
Very cool! I was planning on doing a video similar. I have a Ludwig supra 6.5 from 1981. All of the info was good in this vid. Cheers
Yeah, I saw it in one of your videos! I also just realised I have seen your videos before, years ago, on reggae production, and specifically remember the technique you used to record the snare.... awsome stuff!
@@JohnJesus It's a small world breddren!! Cheers!!
i love your snare sound
great stuff! keep it up
This was great
Mr C Barrett he play with Heart & soul, the sound of earth, inna Power of vibration, Is positive!!!
Thankkk youuuu bro! I'm bouta tape my snare and buy some new skins while Im at it
Yea man. You got it right. I have a supraphonic and tune it exactly as you have and it sounds KILLLLLER. I am a pro keyboard player but play drums as a hobby as well, only reggae drums. Love it LOVE IT!
Hey Matt, thanks so much for the feedback! You got an amazing channel! Your video on reggae guitar with Tuff Lion is a classic! and you are a master keyboard player!! Pleasure to have you around!
Cool. This spring we are launching Art of Reggae, a deep online educational platform. I'll keep you informed!
The good thing about the supraphonic is that it has 10 tuning rods instead of 8 which allow to tune more tight the head
that's a really good point
@@JohnJesus It makes a difference, that's what I use in my videos. czcams.com/video/4UhD0C2piOA/video.html
@@OneDrop504 Carlton Barrett also used Yamaha drums when he was still playing in Lee Scratch Perry's band known as the Hippy Boys or the Upsetters during the 1960's and also in the late 1970's and early 1980's with the Wailers band before Bob Marley passed away from cancer in 1981.
Of course Carlton Barrett mostly used the Ludwig drumkit when it was available. The maple wood drumkit made by Ludwig given to Carlton Barrett by Bob Marley in the 1970's, was destroyed in a fire at a club in Jamaica.
@@SuperheroJunior Don't know about when he was playing in the Hippy Boys or with Scratch. Never seen or heard that before. Maybe, but I do know the best sound for that early late 60's early 70's is a 3 ply Ludwig with no bottom head and the batter head duct taped. Whenever I play with someone they can't get over the sound.
@@OneDrop504 I think that the Ludwig drumkits that Carlton Barrett used during the 70's were made of Maple wood but the snare drum was either a 400 or 402 Supraphonic.
I will show you a website of the 4 piece Yamaha drumkit that Carlton Barrett used when he and his brother Aston (Family Man) Barrett played with the Upsetters band.
yooo that sound is the one !!! 👌
Great video fam
Thank you
cool ;)
Key man! I love your videos! Awesome playing.... One day I hope to be 20% of how good you are to be able to say I am great! Big up!
@@JohnJesus I am very moved to see that the drumming community appreciates my work, pleasure to work with you one day !!! Karigan
@@KariganReggae Like wise man, would be a pleasure to do something together.... I got other things going on at the moment, but I am sure to keep in touch when reggae is involved..... BIG UP!
@@KariganReggae I love your drumming also man. Keep up the good work. I have been watching your music videos and I am very impressed with the kind of techniques that you have playing the drumkit in reggae music.
As Bob said Reggae can't be copy you have to feel it and Carly nephew years away of coping Carly also.
This what I like man keep it up
Thanks man, I will!!
@@JohnJesus Carlton Barrett also used cowbells in concerts and also in the recording studio too.
The 2 Bob Marley songs named One Love/People Get Ready and Who That Cap Fit that were recorded in the studio, you can hear the cowbells being played on the drumset by Carlton Barrett.
@@JohnJesus I have two snare drums that are made of wood. One is made of poplar wood and the other one is made of maple wood. I have done the same thing that you did in this video and both drums sound really good. They are both tuned very high just like this metal aluminum snare drum that you have in this video.
@@SuperheroJunior awesome! Good to know! It is indeed mostly about the head and how hard you tighten it. The sound difference because the material (woods and metals) will be much smaller.
Thanks for your feedback!
@@JohnJesus Oh yes. I agree that because of the material that the drums are made of, the sound will be slightly different but it is only minor. Thanks for uploading this video. It really helps a lot.
U sound good bro!
I love all of your videos bro. Fellow reggae lover
Thank you so much!
@@JohnJesus I have a wooden snare drum made of maple wood and I tune it really high to play reggae music and it sounds really good.
@@Hotters9060 awesome, I suspected it would also work, because the most important thing is the skin (1ply) and very tight.
@@JohnJesus I think you can even use an internal muffler to control over time as well too.
Tape on the f'ng wires... so simple, so effective. Gracias
Hey man, my toms sound a little too dead. How did you tune your drums? My kit is very resonant so I put a few moongels on the heads, but am considering taking them off completely because they're dead now. No happy medium. 😂 Anyways, how do you normally tune your toms? They sound amazing!
Are your heads new?
The resonant head is as important as the batter head. The actual note produced by the toms are the sum of the individual notes produced by each head.
The way I tuned my toms were: the batter head is, for example, A and the resonant is an E - in other words, they are a 5th apart (or a 4th,depending how you look at it...) if you do not understand music theory, this might be confusing... But essencially: the "5th" is the 5th note in the major scale.
If A is the root, is the 5th.
Also, you must understand d that each drum will have a tendency to resonate/vibrate at a specific frequency. That is related with the volume (size) of the drum. Then, having a lesser influence, is the resonance of the wood itself. You will note that 2 pairs of drumsticks will not produce the exact same sound when you hit them togther, even thought they have the same volume/shape/size.
I am not a drummer, I just play a little bit and have a decent ear... I am certain you can find videos on CZcams that will help you tune the toms.
I hope this helps😉
what do you think about the HEDD TYPE 20's i see in your studio ..would you recomend them, a lot of engineers praise these and as you are a reggae producer i would be interested to know what you think about them
I love these monitors..... Really, when I got them and started to listen to my favourite songs, I could hear stuff I had never noticed before.... Subs for days, the highs never hurt, and the mids are so clear...
I love them for reggae -- anything with a lot of subs just feels so good! I don't want any other speakers at this point, and not even worried about it.... I got speakers for life as far as I am concerned!
What I would say to be very important is that you have an acoustic treatment that is at least the cost of both monitors (more than 3000 euros). If you do the acoustic treatment yourself, that amount should cover for all the materials and you will still have spare change for a decent microphone... If you are buying bass traps and panels already made (and good ones!) - you will have to spend more....
Also, important to have them isloated from the desk - ideally on a stand, with ISO-pucks or something similar
Remember, great speakers in a poorly treated room is a waste of money. Best to invest in the treatment and go for cheaper speakers. Don't know what your situation is, but consider this!
@@JohnJesus Many Thanks!
1:29 Sorry but i don't understood. He has made a video where he explains how to tune his snare ? Do you have a link to this video ?
It was an instagram story, so there is no link.....
Hi Jesus,
I've just found this video, it's really good. I wonder if it's worth mentioning that Carlton played mostly without the snare wires engaged. Also he used to put a rag in between the hi-hats on occasion, and he very rarely, if ever, used resonant heads on his toms, essential for the fat thuddy sound he used to achieve.
I don't see him use the rag that often. Main place you see that was in the Live at the Rainbow video, and by looking it seems that he was using either 15 inch new beats or two 16 inch thin crashes. They look the same size as his floor tom, which would be 16 inches. I tried it with crashes and you definitely need a rag, but it does sound sweet. I have a replica of that set I play on my channel. For his 14 inch hats, I've seen him ball up some duct tape and stick it on the underside of his bottom hat lol. I think it depended on what things sounded like at sound check.
@@OneDrop504 Carlton Barrett also used cowbells in live concerts and in the recording studio. The Bob Marley songs One Love/People Get Ready and also the other song named Who That Cap Fit, you can hear the cowbells being played on the drumkit. Some people seem to forget that.
Also another thing that I noticed in the late 1970's and the early 1980's, Carlton Barrett also used Yamaha drums.
@@Azarable Yeah, Ludwig stopped making 3 ply sets in 1976, he stopped using them after that. Also, Yamaha offered him a sponsorship and gave him free stuff. As for the cowbell. czcams.com/video/Ub_rScgCXiM/video.html
The truth is, if you gave "Carlie B" any snare drum, metal or wood, he would have it sounding exactly the same way in 15 minutes, due to his own acquired set of nuances of tuning, developed over years of experience in the craft.
Hey ! Checkout the Wikipedia on Carlton Biography , it paints a clear picture .
Thanks man. Have you done any video like this one but about "California reggae" snare drum?
No man.... but follow this guy -- czcams.com/users/thekahnshrimp
He also makes reggae videos drums, bass, guitar, etc.... see if he has any videos on it -- and if he doesn't, ask him to make it, I think he will be happy to make it
@@JohnJesus thank you man ✌🏽
Hey, Jesus...thanks! The thickness of a head is called a "ply"...FYI.
If you want that extreme high tuning , in my opinion it’s much easier to get that sound on a piccolo size snare drum. A 3 or 4 inch depth will be a good size . Of course this is just my opinion.
I've seen someone put a cymbal inbetween ... I might try it too
What's the size of the snare you're playing?
Wow😃..could a yamaha wood snare sound like this if i use remo ambassador skin?
Apparently so -- there a guy here in the comments that tried it with a wooden snare and said it worked well. Give it a try!
Great sound! May be you're not a drummer but I would take you in my band! ;-)
Thanks man! Good to know at least one band would take me as a drummer 😎
Which drumkit do you use ? which hihat?
HH - Meinl byzance, sand hats
Drumkit - Tama Starclassic, Birch and bubinga.
Can you do a video on guitar stick playing, mimicing the bass line.
Sure - what do you want to know? Anything in particular? If you have any questions about it, it would help ...
@@JohnJesus How to do it? Which strings to focus on? How to mute the strings? How to add to the bass line for variation picking? Proper right hand and left hand technique for guitar picking
@@Reggaddiction Cool, will do that as soon as I find the time, give me about a week...
@@JohnJesus 😁
@@Reggaddiction I know you've already seen it, but here it is the link for those reading these comments and what to see the video on the Stuck Line: czcams.com/video/O4nwyKD_wpY/video.html
What about the toms,type of drum sticks and the cymbals?
Drum sticks I don't really think will make a difference - it's more about how you play/hit the drums. That's coming from the drummer.
In relation to Toms, I know Carlton liked to only have the batter head (resonant head removed).
Cymbals - I don't know what brand he used, but I know he did not use a ride (only hihats and crashes)
You have to follow Aston Barrett Jr on Instagram.
He is the son of Bob's bass player (Aston 'family man' Barrett) and he is the current drummer for The Wailers.
You will be able to see what he uses. If anyone knows the "secrets", it's him!
Hey dude, can you tell me the notes you have for the top and bottom heads of your toms? Those sound great and I want to try and tune my toms to that
Actually, I can because o wrote it on the heads hehe
Tom 1 (small)
Top - A
Bottom - D
Tom 2
Top - A
Bottom - E
At least, that's what I aimed for
@@JohnJesus Thanks man! What would you recommend for a 16” floor Tom? I hve a 13” rack and 16” floor Tom
@@jamesdoctor8079 you mean what head I recommend?
I am not a drummer, so I am not the best person to advice on it. I can only speak for what I got and the little I know... The heads I have are remo emperor coated. I like them, but, again, I have very little experience with different heads
@@JohnJesus no no I mean the tuning? Looks like you have yours tuned in fourths? Just curious what you recommend for a 16” Tom tuning wise
@@jamesdoctor8079 Ah, right.... I am not in the studio now, will get back to you when I return to check what I've done with my floor tom
It´s so simple. Take the cheapest head you can get. Crank it untill it almost rips and that´s it.
But the tape on the wires does the trick.
yoooooo
Killer job, man! What kind of hi hats do you have there?
Thanks Lee - they are Meinl, Byzance, Sand Hats
@@JohnJesus Sweet! 14" or 13"? Thanks!
@@leedavila9622 14''
@@JohnJesus Question: What kinds of cymbals did Carlton Barrett use???
@@Hotters9060 70's Avedis Zildjian, they don't make them like that anymore.
what kind of snare is that??
The snare i am using here is a Tama SLP Aluminum
Is the tape over or under the snare wires? I'm tuning my snare right now 😂
over the wires -- to make them vibrate for only a short moment
@@JohnJesus ahhhhhhh it looked like the tape was under the wires in the video. Awesome. I'm going to go home later and experiment with it cuz I'm still not quite at that sound yet.
@@kevinobryankob I found that the most important thing in this equation is the head itself. If you do everything right, but the head is not this one - or with very similar characteristics - the sound will not be the same
@@JohnJesus okay that makes sense. The head is a Remo head, but not an ambassador
@@kevinobryankob Let us know how it sounded and what type of Remo head it is - others might benefit from the info 👍
Ply
A única maneira de eu ver que és português era pelas letras da fita cola que está na tarola 😆😆
fui apanhado!
אתה ישראלי? you israeli?
No, I am Portuguese
Sibtitle indonesia plese 🙏
Who is not which is
Thanks Rick, I appreciate the correction, always want to get better :)
single ply
That's it!
2 full turns on top, half turn on bottom, muffle the rattler and ball up a damp rag on the top edge of the snare..... your welcome
just remove those snares(strings on the bottom head) and tighten more bottom head and you will be much closer to Cartons sound.
I tried that too, but I found the sound to be missing something... Also recently found out other drummers keep the snares and mute them a little like I did with the tape. It's a matter of trying and see what you prefer. Thanks for your feedback!
@@JohnJesus "Bob Marley Snare Sound" should be without snares. That is the "SECRET" of it. "the secret ingredient is nothing"(kung fu panda). Carly Barrett had that balls to not use the snares and it souds awsome at least in my case. Every body should clearly notice that heads must be tightend high up.
I use one ply clear..... better
I also wanted one, but they do not have it at thomann (or didn't have at the time) - but when I saw Aston Barrett Jr using a coated one, I was a little bit happier😎
J Jesus that’s my Bredren.
CARLTON BARRET CAN DRUM ON PAPER AND NO ONE CAN TOUCH HIM NO NEED BEING SCIENTIFIC OR TECHNICAL SIMPLE
@Titus Bomber Carlton Barrett is the greatest reggae drummer of all time and a lot of other reggae drummers cannot do what he does on the drumkit.
Oh and don't forget that Carlton Barrett also uses cowbells on the clutch of the hi hat stand.
Carly used Ludwig