Can you Paint a Model Kit on a £5 budget? Painting Challenge
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- I know that As a beginner to scale modelling, you might not have that much money to spend on specialist paints to build your first model. But what’s the worst that could happen if you decide to buy cheap paints? So in this challenge video let’s see if I can answer the question, is it possible to paint a model kit, which doesn’t look completely terrible, with products costing less than £5?
Take a look at the model kit I used here:
Airfix A01005 Mitsubishi Zero in 1:72 Scale
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Watching this video. Gave me flashbacks to when I first started out building kits. I used on my first ever model (I didn't get much pocket money back then.) Was those solid block water colour paints. I could still picture it now I made a right pigs ear of the paintwork. My grandfather was horrified that I could screw up a simple colour scheme of a......"spit". And yes he was in the RAF during the last war
Some of my very early builds were terrible, I’ve still got some somewhere
@@ModelMinutes those paints are thick media and are meant for canvas painting and small plaster/clay objects such as a vase. Thats why you don't get smooth paint flow on plastic surface.
I tried something similar and went through a phase of buying 1 or 2 pots of acrylic paint every time I went in Poundland. I came to the conclusion that just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
I think that's the exact sentiment!
Artist acrylics and even some oil paints can be used to get tremendous results when painting wargame and large scale display figures. Just never use them without a basecoat.
@@vinnyganzano1930 yeah primer actually works wonders in cases like these, definitely worth the investment if you're on a budget.
Artist's oil paints used to be the only thing that figure modellers ever used.
@@HO-bndk Oils aren't watery though, and have no problem adhering. Cheap water based Acrylics like these, will never easily cover bare polystyrene. Adding some mild detergent would help with the beading, but not the lack of pigment.
This was a trip down memory lane to when I made my first model, used un-thinned humbrol paints in thick layers. Wasn't much panel detail left.
sounds like my first details too!
That’s like my first model, un thined testers paint witch was pretty dangerous because I didn’t know they where toxic now I don’t really use testers paint now, my main paint right now are Vallejo air since they are pre thinned and I also use Ak paint but I still don’t have thinners so I can’t thin ak paints, I tried to thin ak paints with water, and it did not work at all it became like som sort of liquid putty, but my main main paint is Vallejo air
None of us ever thinned those Humbrol enamels. Some of them went on like treacle. 😆
Here's a challenge.
Why not buy the cheapest, most basic entry-level beginner kit, and build it to the highest possible standard, using all the skills and techniques you have acquired over the years
Better still, use the same kit as this. Would make for a fun comparison.
I think that was the intention from the starter set challenge i did last year
I was thinking to make the Zero kit again, but with, as you say build it to the highest possible standard, using all the skills and techniques you have acquired over the years. I do think your suggestion would make a great video to watch.
@@ModelMinutes oh cool. Though not sure I know which one you mean, do you have a link?
@@PSPmaster321 Can you build a Starter Set Model Kit using ONLY the included paints and glue? Airfix Bf109E-3
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This model challenge was the equivalent of the Netflix baking show Nailed It! I cringed, I laughed, I thoroughly enjoyed the video!
thanks :P
Very interesting challenge. Most of us experienced modelers have forgotten what it is like to start model building. Thanks for sharing, and reminding us of humble beginnings.
and that's the important point , always remember how you started , makes the pleasure of where you are now so much more enjoyable 👍👍
thanks for watching!
Intresting Challenge. I have an idea for another challenge if you need one, try buying the cheapest aircraft model kit you can find and build & paint it
I think that would have to work off the RRP of the product seeing as I have an Airfix Lynx in 1/48 scale which cost me £2, not really much of a challenge there lol
@@ModelMinutes I have seen many £5 airfix kits on Amazon in 1/76
@@Cz17.sb1 1/76 or 72? Please link
Arifix does have a kit that comes with its
@@ModelMinutes Ah i see, maybe build it using your bear hands? Just a suggestion for a challenge
I know this issue to well...I painted my very first model(f4u Corsair)with acrylics only because i didnt want to get the Revell colors. Even tough i sanded the surfaces a bit, the painting was a total desaster. I washed the parts of my second model in soap and vinegar but still-the acrylics didnt stick to the model. I wasted lots of hours painting like 7 layers...
Good paints are essential because without them, building models can be very frustrating.
Thanks for the content and greetings from 🇩🇪
I agree, thanks for watching!
Tamiya, Vallejo, Mig and others have acrylic paints that work perfectly well for painting models.
I love these starter challenges because it makes me feel better about my own work seeing how someone so professional can still only do something so good with the resources available, and as I slowly collect more tools and paints and get better skills my models look better and better, thanks for keeping me inspired,
im glad that you enjoy my videos and that they have helped you out :D
This takes me back. My seven year old self, approves of your build. Now for your second challenge, I dare you to put this up on the the scale model critique group and post the responses. On second thought forget that, you haven't done anything to deserve that. lol Thanks for all your videos this year. Always interesting and always enjoyable to watch. :)
haha thanks!
Nice tutorial. It gives confidence to those who want to start. Wish you a happy new year. Keep entertaining us.
nice!
having worked at craft stores I can tell you with experience that those types of paint sets are never any good, always found that the .99 cents 59ml bottles worked better if on a budget or starting out, but even to just get the RGB+WB at the minimum would have hit the £5 limits
thanks for the info!
The uneven characteristics of that paint can be used to your advantage, to obtain a battle-worn and weathered appearance to the model. For example, painting each panel separately might give you an effect where the middle of each panel is washed out, with paint collecting at the edges. Colour makes a difference, too - that green could be greyed right down, to a 'scale' kind of vaguely-green tone that fits with the weathered appearance. To complete the faded look, paint the markings on, rather than use the decals.
Thanks for the ideas!
@@ModelMinutes I've lost count of the number of times I've seen wonderfully subtle paint jobs spolied by the application of pristine decals...
I’m getting back into modelling and love your channel buddy!
I'm glad you enjoy my videos :D
When I first started building models I could buy the small testors bottles of enamels for .25 cents a piece but that was around 55 years ago. Actually it looks pretty good , I have seen cars coming out of the welfare apartments with that same finish.
thanks for watching
yeah, I remember that too. testers enamels were nice and thick. I think I had almost all the Monogram airplane kits.
I am kind of mad that rustoleum bought testers and then stopped the Model Master line. I liked those paints.
@@orbitalair2103 i really liked their non specular sea blue , I had to start mixing paints to replicate that color for my US warships ww2 ms22
I did this when I was a young boy using cheap paint for an aircraft. Got the same results as your video. Up till today, i am still using paint brush, though with the model making type, Testor as I often choose and prefer. I find airbrush to be complicated to setup and will hit my walls and curtains. But there is one thing I feel makes some difference. If you can bathe and wash the plastic kit with water and detergent, when you take them straight out of the box, soak them for an hour if you like, and then dry them in the sun. The kit is easier to receive paint then without washing off the oils on the plastic kit.
thanks for the info!
Not the best option but certainly you showed that is doable. I remember when I started building plastic models in my home country I had to use hardware store house enamels and wall paints because model paints were not available in the market. I had to mix the colors to get the tones that I needed. I used mineral spirits for the enamels and plain water for the wall paint to thin down. The results were ok for me as a beginner. After I moved to the USA I was in Heaven with all the modeling supplies available and model kits. I have seen car modelers airbrush acrylic craft paints with very good results. The paints that you used are for painting art. Those paints are not friendly for mixing with water so they need to be used pure. Another challenge would be to paint a model with artist oil paints. Thanks for your videos.
thanks for watching and the suggestion :D
That takes me back! Did the Airfix WWII Ark Royal as a kid. Painted the flight deck in artist oil (from an old art set of my dad's). Not pretty.....
Very interesting to watch and thanks for giving it a go. That was a tough challenge and the result is a bit of a Monet - looks good from a distance but close-up it has character. Just wonder if a drop of dish soap would help break the surface tension and help the paint flow easier. If you could get them cheap enough I guess you could get three pots of primary colour model paints and mix them rather than those acrylics.
that's a good idea, possibly an idea for another challenge
Well done Matt. Given the challenge, I think you did a valiant job. Being a beginner, I do use acrylic paints for small jobs in the cockpit, only because I’m starting out and don’t have a library of Tamiya paints. They do very well to be honest. I’m not sure I’d try painting an entire plane though!
haha thanks! Yes, these paints were not the best to use
this video is very relatable! I used those types of paint on the airfix whitley when I was just starting out. The white was not fun, it took about 10 layers to barely have an even coat; It was from then on that I resorted to using spray paint for white. On another note though, I have used those works brushes for everything and for what its worth they are actually rather good at filling areas.
I've recently discovered the joys of a good spray can of white paint :D
In My opinion its executed very well, particularly when you keep in mind that the colors used aren't for modeling in any form. Look at that canopy alone! Man i am astonished, earned yourself a new subscriber!
Thanks very much!
It actually doesn’t look terrible. These challenges are really fun to watch.
Thanks 😊
Agreed.
Very interesting. I have built models that I’ve used cheap paints on, but I airbrushed them, so the finish is nicer. Don’t know if I could hand paint for a nicer finish. Merry Christmas!
Thanks! You too :D
I have read that you can use PVA glue and paint as a primer. 10% paint (like grey) and 90% PVA. That cheap acrylic paint is very low in pigment and very high in carrier/medium, so you are pushing a lot of "tinted" medium over slick plastic. It needs something to bite into. I have also heard that watered down PVA makes a fair gloss coat for your decals to go on top of (once dried). That should help with the silvering. I say this because I don't think using PVA violates the rules here. Metallic silver nail polish may work and be cheaper to buy. Of course, you can borrow nail your mom's or sister's metallic eye shadow or metallic nail polish and mix it in with your paint can make a "metallic" paint!
Craft stores sell craft acrylic primer which is exactly this. I've mixed it with black craft paint to use as model kit primer.
thanks for the tips!
I would be interested to see this - the craft acrylic primer if it works.
Great video. You literally gave me the confidence to use those cheap canvas acrylic paints I have lying around and use it to detail my model kits. I’m a beginner and I’m doing the spray can route but the tiny details I want to add color to had me worried but not anymore.
Great to hear!
I love these videos! It really shows you don’t have to be a millionaire to make great models!
Glad you like them!
I'm building this kit atm and how glad I am looking at this that I have all the professional paints
haha! i bought a second one of these kits and i intend on doing a better job next time
This video is just what I always looking for. Don’t really know if I should spend some money on professional paint and airbrush because I’m not sure if I will keep spending time on modeling for decades. I got some cheap acrylic paints at home and it doesn’t seem to works. Now after watching your video I know I should apply more layer, and I must say your result is totally acceptable by my standard.
Thanks! Proper modelling acrylics do provide a better result though
What a challenge! I'd have been looking for some £1 cans of couloured spray paint from the poundshop. A white and green would sort you for most of the model. Probably not the most authentic green ever but better than those horrendous paints! Excellent effort though and a thoroughly interesting challenge. If we have to do it with a brush then I'd be buying a big flat brush to make the painting of large single colour surfaces a bit easier.
yeah, i did think about getting spray cans, but intentionally made it harder
This model was included in the starter set I got last year to start me on my model building journey, so it's perfect for a beginner. Those are also the brushes I tend to use, mostly out of convenience that they're cheap and expendable, although I agree you can't get the best detail with them.
Yeah, the brushes needed to be a bit finer really
This is a very interesting one! Can’t wait to see the result on artist acrylics!
:D
Next Steps??? As a post Christmas follow up (sort of a "I got this as a present" what'd I do now). Most common gift card in the U.S. is a $20. What could or should you look for as a follow up purchase to improve on THIS challenge? Maybe take a directional line to something like the Mig paint kit for IJN planes set. Then broadening suggestions for AFV/ships/cars depending on the gift receiver's interests? Just suggestions.
Mad mad respect for following through even though difficulties 👍. Fantastic idea and well done. Merry Christmas 🎄❄️🎄❄️🎄
Thanks for the suggestion 😊
Nostalgia trip to the max! Things I've learnt from miniature painting. You can use your most heavily pigmented paints to your advantage with cheap acrylics. Start by painting the whole aircraft in grey scale, mixing your black and white til you get the values right, and then since the coloured tubes of paint have very little pigment I them by comparison, you can tint the Grey's to the colour you wamt
thanks for the info!
My father always used this type of paint on his scale ship builds and would get fantastic results, he'd never use tap water but use distilled water similar to what you'd put in an clothes iron . It was something he'd learnt in the Navy as most of the crew built models and only had access to basic materials.
that's interesting!
I guess that`s a question every modeller asks himself "can I use arts and crafts paints for my models?"
I learned the answer "only for dioramas" the hard way.
Anyway this challenge is much easier here in Ukraine as there is ICM branded paints for like a quid each.
thanks! I have been asked a few times if artists paints work - i guess now we know
@@ModelMinutes Yes artist quality tube paints will work fine (used to paint lead soldiers in the olden days ), but they will be more expensive than the likes of Humbrol and Vallejo.
@@dimligloing spot on. I have some of those cheap acrylic paints, and they are ok to add a tint to an existing model acrylic paint but wouldn't like to use them alone. However I also use high quality acrylics and oils for modelling, and these have a much higher amount of pigment in them, and would cover so much better than the cheap stuff.
People still recommend craft paints for models, but we all have different standards and opinions, but it must be hard for new hobbyists to know online who to take advice from.
@@jaybe2908 you are right - there is a wealth of 'opinion' and some of it is really poor - but this is why I really support Matt's approach, as his experiment clearly shows that this was a fail so don't try it yourself.
Regular acrylic paint can get some very decent results once you get the trick of dillution ratios. Also keep the parts clean of any grease to better results.
Then of course maybe the quality of that particular paint brand and you should use flat brushes to apply paint on flat surfaces.
Anyway, as with regular paints, use for mate base for better grip of acrylic paint, gloss coat for applying decals and a second mate base for finishing improves the results a lot.
Thanks for the info!
Don’t worry about the end product your always informative commentary is invaluable 🤗
thanks!
It would be amazing to see the jump from a 5 pound challenge to 10 pound challenge. You would be able to at least get to different tamiya paints and maybe a decent set of brushes?
possibly!
That looks fun. The only thing i regret is skipping hand brushing models and straight jumped to a cheapo airbrush set. I want to try airfix soon, i started on gunpla models.
You should definitely give them a go
Good video mate.
Just returned to scale modeling after a 30 plus year break.
Knocked up a couple of small 1/72 kits just to get my eye back in and practice some techniques.
I've found that even with the dedicated acrylic paints (Humbrol/Tamyia) they don't like to stick to the plastics, especially when thinned.
I know it wasn't part of the challenge, but for anyone watching who is brush painting, I've found that if you prime the plastic first the paint takes to the kit better.
I bought an aerosol tin of Tamiya primer, only small that should last a while. I've also seen people washing their sprues before building but I've never done that yet.
yeah, washing the parts and applying a primer can help a lot with the paint sticking
Do you think those acrylics you used would apply better if you primed the parts first?.
I'd be interested to find out. 😊
@@tomo870 maybe, but the opacity would still be a problem I think
Nice challange. I enjoyed watching and was curious about the final outcome.
Thanks so much!
Ive never done modelling ever. And i really wanna make one with my grandfather. Seeing this video makes me happy to know that even on budget u can still make a good work. We will try at home and hopefully make a good work
I’m not sure that the model I made in this video is “good”, I’d recommend actual modelling paint and not artists ones
Nice video, watching the paint not covering would suggest grease or mould release on the plastic. Also I have found that the more you thin the paint (with water) the more likely this will happen.
It is possible
This is totally irrelevant to the video but if you paint a House door this happens where people touch the door I use Sugar soap on these areas.
Good job with that paint, painting Guillows balsa kit planes coverings ,are less stressful than using acrylics on slick plastic. Even testors acrylic model paints are fussy without an airbrush.
thanks for sharing!
Building this kit now in Pearl Harbor attack livery, it’s a nice little kit. I think you did as well as possible within the budget. And it doesn’t look bad at all from 6ft, really. 👏🏻👍🏻 Job well done.
thanks!
A young modeler starting out would think his build is the best in the world. If he/she sticks to the hobby as he/she gets older than what looked as an outstanding build in their youth would now appear as flawed in many aspects. But it's the young who we need to bring into the hobby to make the industry continue and not totally lose out to computers and cellphones. Airfix did a video some months back of a Sherman tank build by one of their modelers. He built it and painted it the way a beginner would. Probably to make it appear to those wanting to enter the hobby not to get intimidated. So if you reedit your video and present it as one for a beginner and put a narrative suitable for them then it can very well pass off as something that will encourage a new crop of scale modelers.
When I first built a kit in 1977, I used clay and duco cement to stick the parts of the Matchbox F4U corsair kit together. Later on I used acrylic water color to paint other models. It was always a mess but I had great fun and I am 55 years old now and do "proper modeling". I managed to influence my son to build by just letting him do whatever he wants to do, so I am confident that when I pass on to the rainbow bridge of modelers, my hoard will not be sold off to the usual vultures for 5% of it's actual price as a lot, but will be inherited by my son.
Well said!
You are definitely a braver man than me. The model is a perfect model, but I can’t say that a new modeller would carry on with the hobby if they had this as a final result. A for effort
I agree, I think that it’s a good example why scale modellers have specific painting products
During lockdown #2 I challenged myself to build and paint a kit with what was in the box. I used the Airfix Spitfire mk 1 starter kit. Very similar finish to your Zero.
Awesome!
My first model I painted was Tamiya's Fw 190 D9 1/48 it cost me about 7£ (about since I'm not from Britain) and I was able to buy two brushes (one big and one small) two colours for the upper section of the fuselage and and one for the down section plus a black paint for wheels (didn't paint pilot and the interior of cockpit) and the model looks very good so if you add just a small amount of money you will be able to paint a good-looking model
sounds good!
After watching your videos, I saw the one on the amazing airbrush kit…. Is there any possibility you Can do a maintenance or a cleaning video about it? I want to start looking into airbrushing but I have absolutely no gen on using one, or how to use paints etc…
I was thinking of doing a bit of a guide on my lessons learned with airbrushing, so stay tuned for that in the future
Quite an interesting challenge. I find some colours are just a pain to apply and I use acrylic model paints. Perhaps finding a paint which has the best characteristic from your selection and using it as a primer might be a way forward. Then for the rest apply several thin coats with large brush. The lighter colour for the underside looked like it was going to be trouble since you can't use a dark primer and I've always had a problem with white and off-white shades. But hey, given the constraints good outcome.
thanks! yeah, that light colour was a right pain
Merry Christmas 🎄
And to you!
this makes me feel better as this is what my first 3 models looked like
:D
Aaaaaaaaaaagh - so I've just tried using a cheap box set of acrylics that I already had on a disused part that's big enough to give me a feel for it. Used a Humbrol no 4 brush from a starter kit to keep it real instead of my normal sable brushes. Even though I mixed up a grey undercoat, and degreased the plastic, and went as thin as I could with a bit of fairy liquid in the mix to help reduce surface tension... it wasn't good. I then tried an RAF dark green and dark grey pattern, not a good result, I can't get rid of brush stroke marks plus got different levels of glossiness and matt to the finish. Matt - you did very well with your effort considering!!
thanks! It can be really hard using these kinds of paints
I think a starter will be annoyed a lot when the paint doesnt do what it did here.
you have loads of experiencee and due to having a challenge stayed on working on this to get to the end.
I wont see starters having that, I almost stopped building after I got annoyed not having the right cockpit green in the start of my building, after I mixed a decent cockpit green I finally found one I like and from then I got over that issue.
but good to see that some stuff you just need the right stuff to get going.
Yeah, I would like to think that a beginner would look for some better paints than the ones I used here tbh
How do you get rid of brush marks? I’m having huge trouble when I paint because it looks so bad and there are so many brush marks and strokes. Please help
thin your paints and use a soft brush
Great Video matey.. Im gonna search for acrylic paints for under a fiver to build a model with.. just to see if you can get artist paints to work
I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
yes please , do it and show the video 👍👍
as i use a lot of cheap paint go to home bargains and get the colvin and cowen paint in a tube... you can airbrush it and its sound as F
@@vasili1207 oooooooo
@@ModelMinutes no ric flair goes Woooooooooooooo!
Merry Christmas mate have a good one
Painting on a budget advice: £1 spray primer from poundland. I even managed to get a can of silver spray paint from there which is a steal when you consider the products aimed at hobbyists
Yes it would have been very different results if it was a £6 challenge and a rattle can primer added 👍
I use these on some of my other builds
i have bought those brushes as well and though they seem good to start they soon become very frayed at the ends
as a cheap brush for painting diorama they are completly fine but for painting any kind of details are a waste of money
the paints you used are useless but there is some pastal chalks that grind down to make a very nice brushable dust to use to show age ect
nice job on the video and well done on carrying on because i am sure i would have stopped as soon as i saw how the paints smeared in the cockpit
i did want to stop but i stuck with it even though it caused a few headaches lol
Cool challenge and nice job!
That paint vs the plastics tho.. Ouch.
thanks!
Painting a model with these colors would be easy if you prime the parts.
By the way: your wet pallette is missing the membrane layer. Just use some backing paper. Your paint doesn't get watered down and will stay wet even longer.
thanks for the info
Brilliant, the paint mixing bowl looks like a Jackson pollock/John Squire/stone roses album cover!
yeah, im just seeing how long i can use it until it needs replacing :)
@@ModelMinutes when it needs replacement you could sell it as modern art.
@@simonrichards6739 thats a cool idea :P
Did you wash the sprues with warm soapy water and then flush and dry before starting this model? It looks like the plastic may have a layer of release agent on it.
pretty sure I answered this in earlier comments, but I don't recall washing them. There could be some mould release on there but it wouldn't do much to improve the quality of the paint lol
This reminds me of the first two model cars I built: 2 Lindberg cars in 1/32 scale. I got both of them at Dollarama for $3 each along with those block paints and made a big mess of the paints. However, most of the parts are now lost, with the main parts of the Ford Tudor in my time capsule which I will not open until 2025
oooo a time capsule, that is a fun idea!
Have you ever tried adding some soap to the water used to dilute the paint.’a hint will do, fi bybstroking a wet brush on a slap bar
I think i have tried adding soap before and if i recall i wasnt a fan of the effect it gave
Little bit of un-thinned acrylic serves as a primer. I'm doing only my second model but this works as a primer for my Revell aquas.
interesting!
Interesting challenge video. I wonder what would´ve happened if some sort of primer was used before applying the paint.
I would like to think that the paint stick better to the plastic
It looks cool
thanks!
Watching this again I had an idea - which may or may not be viable. Use a length of sticky tape repeatedly put on and pulled off the fuselage and wings to make the surface slightly sticky and provide a key on the bare plastic. The paint may adhere better to that :)
That is an interesting idea
I would not try to do such a challenge (even though I would be an ideal candidate, as a beginner), but it was very interesting watching you struggle with the (lack of) paint and nonetheless get something good out of it. I would really be curious to see how the paint would have behave with some kind of primer under it. Maybe a fiver was a little bit too little?
Glad you enjoyed it! Perhaps next time i'll do a £10 budget
Looks fair to good for what a beginner on a budget would produce, the mottled green paint looks about right for an IJA Zero-sen stationed in the tropics, if you squint your eyes like a Japanese, (I can say that being half Japanese...lol).
thanks for watching :D
I think the paint looks quite accurate to what some A6M5s look liked towards the end of the war, rushed and a little uneven, I like it
thanks! Yeah, they didn't have the most durable paint at the time
I have a problem with paint like this and its tamiya blue grey ish i think.. what caused it to be not stick and how do i fix it?
could be that there was still mould release on the plastic and it wasnt washed off, or perhaps the paint wasn't thinned enough. A base coat primer could help too
Tbf, even though I’m only on my second kit, one thing I have learned from my first kit was to always use a primer.
Can’t use an airbrush though. Too many house restrictions. Only got access to brushes.
yeah, primer can be handy to help the paint stick
Thanks for the informative video, apologies if this was asked already, but if the model was washed in soapy water and then primed ( I know that would be outside the £5 budget, say you had the £2 brushes already), do you think it would have worked better?
It’s possible a good wash could have helped, but the paints were still pretty bad and I may still have experienced some degree of them not sticking
@@ModelMinutes ok thanks, how about primer? Would that have helped?
@@timiskaming99 I think it would definitely help
I'm wondering if surfaces had been scuffed with fine sandpaper, might the paint not have puddled as badly. Also, was the model washed with dish soap first to remove oily residue?
I've seen worse models from people that considered themselves great modelers. I've even seen some that were glued together with no paint. Not very interesting.
it's possible that could have helped
I've everything you have but bought for playing with dioramas. Except the Zero been soooo tempted though.
it's quite a good kit
Did you wash the sprues before starting the build? This might have helped the paint to stick better.
yeah, it probably could have
Wash the model kit in dish liquid (non citrus), rinse thoroughly and let dry before assembly and painting. Wash hands as well! Additionally, always remove paint from sufaces where they are being cemented together, as you want plastic touching plastic so there will be a strong bond. Otherwise, excellent video and it looks decent for £5 paint challenge!
Thanks for the info!
Could you test these paints thinned a lot and airbrushed? I'm curious if that would work well, if so these types of paint kits could have a use in filling out a paint collection for some rarer colours and would be much cheaper then designated model paint alternatives.
Great suggestion!
For some not so specific colors like plain yellow, black, or white I like to use this kind of cheap acrylics from a set. Properly diluted with some IPA they spray ok through the airbrush. And they can be used with brushes for washes, drybrushing and small details, too.
@@herbaden Cool, Im getting a new compressor so I will have to try this out. With most of these paints being fully water soluble do you add anything to help them dry and stay on better?
@@ModelMinutes Thank! Love the channel, keep up the good work!
Hi, I wonder if you could try a few things and let us know how it works out. On some similar parts. 1) Mix the acrylic say with something like 3-1 with water to thin it, then add a tiny drop of dishsoap with a toothpick and mix. The idea is to use the soap to reduce the surface tension and allow better flow. 2) thin some pva glue 2-1 or 1-1 as a gloss background for the decals. And I assume you washed this model in soap and water to start with, cause even good model paints dont like to stick to airfix mold release. and finally 3) trim 1 brush with scissors to a tiny point !
BTW great video. !
Thanks for the suggestion 😊
i have no idea why this channel has been recommended to me. but i might get a bladdy arifix now
i'm sure you will enjoy it! Good to see the CZcams algorithm working :P
Forgive me for asking this, but what determines that any beginner will work on a £5 paint budget? Having formerly worked in a model shop, beginners usually come in and purchase what's on the box plus the bits you have recommended and their advantage such as Revell's needle glue applicator etc. When you spend time with them going through the model build, you can guarantee they will be back purchasing another!
I think it stems from personal experience, if I only have a small budget I’m probably going to try and get what I can
i m doing the similar thing.. bought a set of 48 acrylics and making the color combination to match as per what I got on Airfix model (India doesn’t have BS convertible standards for colours, so i tried to mix much near to what BS has)
Good luck! Hope it works out for you
Think I'm gonna have to give model making a go next year, CZcams sure wants me to keep watching, down the rabbit hole I go
One of us!
@@ModelMinutes Very quickly becoming the case 😄
It's a deep rabbit hole indeed !
@@lpjmodels Don't say that I get sucked into things way too easy 😂
@@lpjmodels one of the deepest
It sure what is considered high spending in the UK, so I’ll give a suggestion from an American dollar perspective and you can adjust by conversion and how economy budgeting would be.
But I’d suggest an attempt with a simple kit, but all supplies including brushes knife and all from a total beginners perspective, where the guesstimate expense would be 20 or 30 USD budget.
Might open you a bit and perhaps try a challenge with a 10 or 20 pound budget as a total beginner who buys what they think is good to build that first model.
thanks for your thoughts - i recently made a video where i tried to get as many tools etc as possible from shops here in the uk in a budget of £30
Would it have been within your budget to add a small amount of rinse aid from your dishwasher to the water you mixed with the paints to help them cling to the plastic a bit better?
Maybe
@@ModelMinutes the reason I say this is because rinse aid is almost identical to flow improver for acrylic paints: it breaks down the surface tension. Its surfactants have OH groups to help mix with the water in the paint and thinner, and also long(ish) chain carbon groups to use Van der Vaals forces to cling to the plastic.
@@alexogle8950 thanks for the info 👌
Hi, a very interesting challenge. I am adding comments as I watch so you may cover the issues later on………
Not surprised the paint is being awkward as they aren’t model paints? Also would you thin if doing this again? Also as a newbie we don’t know many of your building tools exist?! Yes it’s a painting video but please note we rookie’s would not be building like you did.
What did you mean by ‘…decals silvered….’ ?
Such a clever wet pallet very impressed!
GOSH it’s awful!! Looks like you made it in the dark!?
Bob
England
Ps
Jury out!!?? It’s rubbish!
I would do the challenge, in fact any challenges you hand out
Hi bob!
Given my limited budget i decided to go for a range of painit colours rather than specific model paints (because i would have likely been only able to purchase 2 resulting in some very restrictive paint colours). I did try thinning the paint in a few places but it was pretty bad so I didn't really bother on the whole.
I wouldn't say that a new person doesn't necessarily know that tools exist, as there are many who do - but i'm sure (myself included) that when they started out it was with a very limited selection of appropriate tools.
Decal film will appear silver and not see-through due to the presence of tiny bubbles underneath them when they are applied, usually caused by a really matt (or rough) surface.
I'm glad you liked my improvised wet pallate!
Lol yes, the model is horrendous, certainly not the best looking kit i've ever made - but i would like to think that the video was fun to watch and entertaining at the least :)
@@ModelMinutes thanks for your reply it’s good to understand
Bob
I think a small can of surface primer would have helped the paint adhere to the surface. A black wash would have given it a worn look that would add to the blotchy paint. It does look like a fun weekend project. I have some old Monogram kits in the stash I'm willing to sacrifice. Challenge accepted. ! Well done cheers!
Thanks! I hope you enjoy
For a bonkers challenge, which it appears you were regretting, more and more, I say bravo.
thanks!
normally I don't paint the paint the small cockpits because they are very easy to mess up however by just gluing it on no painting gives a cleaner look.
But I definitely will have my hands full with the Zoukei Mura 1/32 Ki-45 SWS (Super Wings Series) so wish me luck on this massive kit I’ll be taking on soon
nice!
There might be better paints for that price, but well... most newcomers wouldn't take that much time to buy paints anyway. You're not really missing out on decal sollution though, I've been making models for a few years now and never used it or even thought about using it. tapwater works fine and with a little care and some paper towels you can come a long way. Seal it in with a spray-can varnish and you're done :)
I did think about getting the "best" paints i could for my budget, but thought it would be interesting if i didnt
@@ModelMinutes it sure was interesting! :)
I wonder how much a layer of primer would’ve improved the finish. Some acrylic thinner too.
Would’ve busted the budget, but it’d be interesting to know what specifically is causing the trouble. Maybe there’s a cheap way around it
A primer may have helped, but I think these paints were so cheap that it would have taken considerable work to make them look good
What could you mix those tube paints with to reduce surface tension? Detergent? Egg?
hmm possibly
Is it really a problem with the paint? Wouldn't this happen with any paint when applied without primer?
nope, i've used various other modelling acrylics and enamels without primers and had no issues - worth checking out some of my other build videos for evidence of this
I've seen those cheap acrylic paints a few days ago and thought about trying them, I'm glad it's not 1999 anymore and there's CZcams to save you from some mistakes
haha!
Cheap paint brushes have improved a lot, so has the paint (yellow and white are always difficult spend a little more here). They were useless for modelling 20 years ago.
For small flats and points down to no.2 the cheap brushes with the blue/orange handles they sell in packets in supermarkets are fine, you get about 10 for £3. I buy them from 'The Works' publishing outlet it's good for cheap glue and masking tape too. I cut the largest pointed brushes down to make stumpy domed drybrushes. The only expensive brush you need is a super fine detail if you want to do really fine work, I use the Army painter one. No.1s I buy in packs of five from Jackman's art supplies they are my workhorse for miniature figures.
Thanks for the info 😊
I think it would have been a good idea to was the sprues with warm soapy water with a little bit of vinegar first. I did that when I first started out model making and the cheap paints I got from the local dollar store stuck to the surface alright.
certainly something that has been suggested
Flashbacks guaranteed on this vid, my first model was a dogfight doubles me110 and spitfire mk1a I still have both of them 😆 even if they aren't brilliant
nice!