Can the MPC X Special Edition Pump Hard 👊 like the MPC 3000?
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- I made a beat 🥁 on the MPC X Special Edition.
It have a MPC 3000 PLUGIN so lets try a ON & OFF listen 👂
All parts are played 🎹 by me, piano, bass, guitar and drums. No samples used other than the vocal sample chop. Also no processing used only the MPC 3000 plug-in 🔌 and I used the plugin on the “main output” only‼️
Let me know in the comments what you think!
Thanks for Watching🎯
I don't know but it sounds great to me! Nice work on the beat.
Thanks a lot💯
I think this is hitting nice and hard. I personally think a lot has to do with the quality of the sample and the time put in learning and using the instrument. I like all of the standalone MPCs. I personally think they all have an application. The MPC X and X SE just happen to work and sound great in the right hands. And you did this right!
I agree about the sound selection/samples. The way one use the machines are key to a better sound. Thanks for your kind words🎯
You are right. I don’t know why we are arguing which MPC sounds better than the next. Let learn our crafts and make great music. The listen won’t ask which MPC you used. Great music wins not the gear.
@@Dentis306 I am so happy to see someone else saying this. I mean as a artist of course I love knowing the gear that someone else is using. However the common person will never care about vintage gear. In fact many younger listeners are looking for that new sound. Personally I think it is much easier, more efficient and just sounds spot on with the newer MPCs. It is definitely better for me than in a DAW. I think I take more risks and try new things more often with my MPC X SE or MPC ONE.
@@VinylWave11 great music does win, but listening to it in a club next to other music and being self critical is when you find that although the idea works and sounds good, it may bug you that the sound isn't 💯. Well it did with me for years. I couldn't figure out what it really was, and put it down to me being too self critical. At the time I was using Reason so I put it down to that. If you are just making music for yourself then it doesn't really matter, but if you are making music to play in clubs on big systems then you will want it to sound premium next to other tracks that sound full in the clubs. Once you have experienced it and are honestly self critical you will understand what I'm on about. With certain genres you won't need the full sound so much and the clean sharp sound works wonders, but with others that full sound is needed to really stand up next to other selection. So just like guitarists have many guitars, beat makers should have many different beat machines to suit the purpose and not kid themselves that their one does everything great.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio agreed that is why I do have other samplers and drum machines and of course Push 2 and Abelton Live Studio. It is cool that you mentioned guitars cause piano and electric and acoustic guitars and analog peddles is where I started off in music. I totally agree once a song is well mastered it should probably have a club mix version the pumps hard in de club. I have a degree in fine art so I am very versed in self critique and sitting in during weekly group critique reviews. It is a really good idea to have a group of other musicians that you trust and will listen to about the cons and the pros on your music. I tend to be over critical of my own work and tend to take a while before releases often needing a shove to let it go out
With all the YT drama about this, it's nice to see someone work on the issue vs. just talk/complain about the issue.
I did a speaking/beat making video at first but thought to myself it’s a lot of that out there all ready..
Let’s just see and hear the machine💯 😅🤣
@@whennatecreate Exactly!
I just got an MPC X non SE, but I got it second hand and it came with a LOADED 1 TB drive of samples and pretty much every expansion offered from AKAI!
Nice🎯
Nice mix bro! Keep doin the thang!👊🏾 i couldn’t really hear a difference between the plugin being on or off! Sounds the same!!
You right because @akai made the MPC 3000 plugin is extremely subtle but the MPC 60, and SP1200 plugins you’ll hear more of difference.
Super thanks for the feedback 🎯
I don't think it hits hard like the 3000
But thank you for the video much love and respect!!!!
Most definitely 💯🎯 Thanks for watching‼️
Still sounds good though. Can't deny that unless your ears are missing frequencies from hearing loss haha All jokes aside I can respect your opinion too ;)
@@Rightly_Divided no problem I have the X but I'm thinking about getting the black lion converter put inside.
@@marcusholder495 Ooo I never heard of that until you mentioned it. I looked it up and it looks interesting. I will be doing more research on that! Thanks for the tip man
@@Rightly_Divided no problem stay blessed!!!
Tight!
Super thanks🎯
Let's do a shootout fam.
My MPC X black lion mod vs your MPC x SE.
You won fam🎯😅🤣
@@whennatecreate I don't want to do for competition. I want to do it for educational purposes
I’m down!
Good Job Fellas.
@@rayNmanMusic808 💯
From one X user to another the track is HARD
Super thanks! X Gang🎯
Love the beat bro 🔥🔥🔥 you can make that MPC bang a little more with the MPC 60 vintage engine mode (the 3000 mode is a little weak IMO). Also if you have a mixer lying around, try using the EQ on that mixer before recording to your audio interface. Keep the track count to a minimal to preserve MPC headroom, as these newer MPC machines sound better when there is less tracks, which means less overload in the output stage. ✌🏽
Hey thanks, I’ll keep it noted and try some of those tweaks‼️
If Your Getting Less Headroom Due To Too Many Tracks, Then Most Likely You're Not Using The BUSS Method Properly... Buss Your Instruments, Buss Your Kicks Separately From Your 808's and Of Course If You Have Vocals, Have All Vocals Sent To A BUSS Track As Well, and Or Use Mid-Side Compression/Eq-ing As Well... If You Using More Than 20 Tracks, Then You Should Be Bouncing Wav File Into A DAW Then Process As Needed.
Great advice!! Bussing is so important. Also remember all the outputs are there for a reason, use them!! Easy way to get extra headroom and separation. Run your 808 on is own output and run it through it's own outboard. Even small stuff can make a huge difference. The new mpc's sound fire though, IMHO
And I just have a retro live 2, but I'm gonna get this asap!!
FLAWLESS VICTORY ! I Guess You Showed ALL Doubter's Of The MPC X SE Hater's, You Did AKAI Pure JUSTICE. Great Beat. 👍🏽👍🏽
Super thanks🎯💯
The mpc se haters lol ? This world is too sensitive, how can someone hate on a tool when there is real facts that analogue device back in the days were fatter. The issue is some ppl are too young to understand or never worked in a real studio. Ppl who ask for better converters are not haters but just realists, some who dont just didnt exprience enough to know what they are missing
@@LaidbackSounds @easki We always want better no matter what the time or day🎯 Great feedback my friend💯
@@LaidbackSounds I've Heard The Test Comparisons And Understand That Point, But You Should Also Understand That DESIGN And FUNCTIONALITY Are Also Just As Important If Not More. AKAI Has Made A Better Product Overall In My Opinion Because NUMBERS DON'T LIE, Regardless Of The So Called Young That Don't Understand. I'm Beyond 50 And Been In Studio's Worked In Studio's Know People Who Breathe STUDIO's. So Yes The Kicks Are FATTER But Those Older Machines Are Complicated As Hell, Offer Less Abilities and Are Not INSPIRING At All... So To US NEW USER'S Regardless Of AGE, The Newer MPC's MOTIVATES One To Learn The Workflow Process Which Leads To The Sound Engineering Process, Which Leads To The Gain Staging/Mixdown Process Which Leads To The Mastering Process... Then Your BEATZ Are Ready For Prime Time. With The Older Machine's The Finished Beats Were Always Sent Out To Be Mastered By A Sound Engineer Or Be Bounced Out To A DAW To Be Mastered. But Once You Learn The New MPC's Abilities, You Can Make A Professional Industry Level Track, and Then Do It Again Over And Over Again... In Other Words, The Newer Devices Offer More Than Just SOUND... Remember IT's MORE About The Lyrics And Or Flow Style That Will Make A Song... "I GAT 5 On It" Was Made With Only 4 Tracks and The Beat Ain't All That, Its SIMPLE As Fuck, YET WE ALL LOVE IT. So This Is Really About Apples And Oranges.
@@babysunn2 i see your point, im 45 myself, i'm personally at ease with every workflow i used to be a sound engineer and i am an IT Engineer so all kind of techs comes easy to me, im actually all in the box since a few years and can mix master songs with no issue, but i miss the analogue circuitry of the 90s hehe. Now talking about workflow you want to know my 2 cents about it ? I agree for sound quality that old mpc are better but for workflow in 2023 i even think no mpc stands a chance against a good DAW and a controller. I sold my live 2, its a nice gadget , nice standalone kit for what it is but it is a workflow from yesterday why sticking to patterning when you can do it all in daws .
It sounds good ------- nice video -----
My MPC X SE arrives tomorrow from Amazon
It’s a dope machine @akai‼️ I have always been a fan since the MPC X. Hope you enjoy yours when it arrive. Thanks for checking out the video🎯
Plugin seems more subtle compared to other hardware MPCs like shown in MUSICTECHWORKS by CEDDMACK comparison video.
@akai it would be nice if you could drive MPC 3000 and the other emulations like the MPC 60 more to pump 👊 the sound with something like a mix level feature🎯🤷♂️
Air flavor pro
@@whennatecreate Air flavor pro let's u control your emulation
@@lilgansta166 Kool🎯
Ain’t no Way. The MPC 3000 had sound converters.
Bingo🎯
I use the MPC 60 “effect” in settings. No, it’s not like a 60, but I do like it better than vanilla.
I mainly use the MPC 60 plugin too 🎯
And the end of the day if your song slaps and your speakers doing they job, the extra thump don’t matter.
Kool🎯
I’ve notice the 60 in vintage mode hit harder lol. 3000 hit hard but so clean 🧼
Absolutely 🎯
This is productive nice video!
Thanks a ton🎯
I don’t have a MPC, old or new but I do have a Akai Force, I can’t hear any difference with the MPC 300O plug in on or off but it sounds great to me.
@akai they should give us a saturation mix level so we could add more or less for pump/drive 👊
THE 3000 VINTAGE MODE DOES NO JUSTICE, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A 3000 AT ALL.
Agree🎯 Would be nice if it had more saturation you could blend with maybe like a mix knob or level knob to get more punch 👊‼️
Black lion Audio ...trust me look them up !
Trust, I’m gonna do it soon🎯
The 4000 is a killer , it hit u hard it sound better than all mpc
😂😂😂😂 I Thought it would be the 3000
You’re using a plug-in to compare the sounds? 😂 I thought you were gonna use both the machines.
The Roger Linn Akai 3000 hits harder because of how it samples and stores. The 3000 has a sample rate of 44.1kHz (CD quality) and it stored the samples in 16-bit data format. The MPC 60 samples at 40kHz but stored samples in 12-bit. (Remember the E-mu SP-1200 samples and plays back in 12-bit?) That’s what made them hit harder. No other samplers were doing that. Combined with the swing function oooh buddy!
Wish I had the Roger Linn Akai 3000 but unfortunately I only have the MPCX SE. I know there’s a difference in format and circuitry that goes along with the machines. I’m piggybacking off of Jermaine Dupri, and showing what @akai has given us with emulation plug-ins of legacy machines, such as the 3000. And I absolutely agree with you buddy, all those things combined with swing is King 👑🎯
Thanks for the laugh 🤣 and watching 💯
@@whennatecreate Bruh, I was boycotting Akai for a while. I had serious beef with them in how they did Roger Linn and the users who basically gave them new life. I love my 3K.
I remember a friend gave me his MPC 2000XL (my first 3K was stolen) and I was like, “something’s different and off” and I went on this rampage trying to figure it out. Then I looked at the machine and I was like “why isn’t Roger Linn’s name on it?” Then it hit me. I called a friend with Akai at the time and he broke the news. Ugh!
It took the MPC X to bring me back. I do like it, but sonically it’s no 3K. I finally got another 3K, this time the LE. I was once again whole. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for the content and the response. Peace & Light
That track is dope bro but whatever they had in those machines transistors resistors and whatnot the vibration is not the same
Agree 🎯
Why did u put the 3000 plugin on every single track instead of throwing it on the master bus?
I only put it on the “main output”🎯
but I wonder how it would sound on more than one track⁉️🤔🤣
In the video I’m going through tracks to show other settings and features but jump back to the “main output” to show the 3000 plugin🎯
@@whennatecreate Oh, sorry! Then it was my mistake 😅
@@MakingMadBeats No worries, I see how it could look like that because it’s not clear when I am jumping pages. I made a mental note of that, so thank you my friend🎯
@@whennatecreate 😎👍
Adding plugin FX is same as Preferences >> General Vintage Modes right?
I believe you do have that option to set it in Preference > General Vintage Mode.
It's 25% closed though
Lol @ 25% 🤣
My dude, not for nuthin but I'da laid in a arrogant ass boom bap pattern and sweat that plugin so we really know how the s#@t knock.
Oh okay I see 🤔🎯
How do you like the octatrack compared to MPC X?
I luv the Octatrack! It pack a punch to be a small machine, and my creativity never run out because of the way it samples and mangle sounds 🎯 Because the MPC X is packed with so many features, I can’t really put one over the other just more so about what machine is inspiring me at the moment.
@@whennatecreate thanks for the input. I just hear the learning curve is crazy. I assume for the breast you posted your using static and flex machines? I wish I could this MPC X but it’s just too pricey for me. Nice beat btw!
@@lebronsinclair8012 Yep I’m using both static & flex machines on the MKII. And if you were talking about the MKII learning curve it’s no walk in the park 😅
Thanks for checking me out 🎯
Sounds nothing like the 3000. Loud is not the same as sonic thump. Nice groove tho.
Agree big time! Thanks for checking out the video🎯
A plugin to try and emulate their own original hardware? Smh.
😅🤣
🗑️ get your refund brother
Awww man really 🤔😅🤣
😂🤣😂
Your gonna get easy skipole all mad with this😂
Think so 🤔 Naww he kool people 🎯😅
@@whennatecreate I think he’s deaf and has no clue about 24 vs 12 bit circuitry.
Angry because he didn’t get a free unit from akai like all the other relevant producers.
@@Bibblebabbler @akai it would be nice to see a machine that could switch between 12,16 and 24 bit or some type of mix knob to adjust how much punch 👊you want🎯
get off his nuts troll... I saw you in ski's comments and in a couple of livestreams too.. he really got you butt hurt🤡🤣🤣 sorry he Hurt your little feelings but everything he said was true buddy.......
@@Bibblebabbler Ski is a veteran in the game with platinum plaques and he's been saying that Akai need to work on the sonics since the MPC Ren, he's not salty because he never got a free MPC X SE, he could buy one they're not that expensive for someone of his stature.