Top 10 Things You Missed In Dune
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- This epic sci-fi flick was overflowing with fun, easy to miss details. For this list, we’ll be looking at easter eggs, small details, and connections to the source material that might’ve flown under your radar in Denis Villeneuve's 2021 adaptation of Frank Herbert’s science fiction novel "Dune". Our countdown includes Thufir Hawat’s Mentat Background, Jason Momoa’s Nod to His Son, Baron Channels Brando, and more! Did you catch any little details in “Dune?” Let us know in the comments.
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@@Tobyelperro how do you know they haven't done it have you checked all there channels not just this one
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I have to see this...
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I watched it without knowing anything about dune going into it, and my mind is blown. I can’t stop thinking about this universe, It’s like a glimpse into one of our possible futures.
Wait till you read the book.
And the next one.. and the next one.........
Welcome
The movie couldn't have possibly even scratched the surface of the Dune universe. The books are a must read.
Read the book. Seriously
Same here. I just started reading the book and im hooked.
This movie is a much needed breath of Fresh Air in Modern Cinema.
So much better than the superhero cliché we see these days!
So much neded indeed. It fills a void
sadly money hungry companies will flood this market now that they noticed how successful dune is
@@animuchan6136 actually Dune has very modest box office
@@shadowalk3 Agreed. The only movies i were hyped for in recent years were Iron Man 1, End Game, Dark Knight, and a few others. The rest have failed my expectations.
His vision with Jamis killing him was also sybolizing that you kill yourself when you killed another man. Being the first person Paul killed. Jamis killed the boy Paul used to be or rather Paul killed himself and now is reborn as Femen
Now that makes sense. Paul's dreams baffled me- why did it showed Jamus as a friend/ally.
@@antzee7313 because the fremen burial rights go "I was a friend of Janis"
@@antzee7313 Paul sees visions of multiple possible futures. Not everyting happens exactly as he dreams. In an alternate timeline, he and Jamis would have been friends. Also visions / prophecies have symbolic meanings. Jamis truly showed him the way of the desert: only the strongest survive, an Paul (the kid) must die so Paul (the man) is born. Also he sees his own death, because killing someone is like killing yourself (in a metaphorical way).
@@antzee7313 because Paul can see potential futures
@@antzee7313 Because Prescience isn't perfect, Paul will need time to hone that ability. Also you can say Jamis did teach him a great deal, and when you kill someone in this type of battle in Fremen culture you inheret their entire life, including their water. We will see more of this in the next film surely. Then it will make a lot more sense.
One of my favorite quotes from this EPIC film was:
"A great man doesn't seek to lead. He is called to it."
And he answers
That whole Oscar Isaac sequence was parenting at best. My favorite line was when he tells Paul he’ll still be everything he ever needed him to be, his son.
Pretty sure this is quoted from an old islamic saying, and as a muslim we always say that when we are called to lead something.
@@gigiwan3335 more likely than not. Arabic culture and Islam are deeply rooted into the universe
"He shall know your ways as if born to them."
Seeing Dune in IMAX turned out to be the greatest cinematic experience of my life! I can't wait for Dune: Part 2!
I want part 2 already.
Wish they filmed them back to back like some other franchises… Pirates, LoTR & Avengers.
Late 2023 at best
Seen it twice and going to see it again next week. First film in a long time where, when it finished, I wanted to go back in and see it again. :D
I’m hoping that someone does a marathon imax showing when part 2 comes out. I will gladly sacrifice my bladder walls and butt nerves for that
Sardukar scene was so incredible.
One of my favorites scenes
@@quamifilms First look at Saluca Secundus. Which it should be noted, is the original home of House Corrino.
It was amazing. Absolutely spine tingling.
Dude they killed it with that scene. Literal 10/10 envisionment of the Sardukar.
You can almost feel the LOTR vibe when it comes to the atmosphere, scope, sound and language.
The things I can’t stop thinking about: The creepy ominous vibe of Baron Harkkonen, the intensity of the “voice”, the intriguing sound of the Sardaukar language/chant. A visual and auditory treat this movie was. This is poised to be the sci-fi series of the decade in my opinion. Star Wars? What’s that?
I am so happy that the origin of all cinematic Science-Fiction returns with a vengeance. Star Wars was very heavily influenced by Dune.
Star Wars: Dune for kids.
This should have been made a series right from the Start. With the Lore it could have outdone Game of Thrones and had a better ending. Someone should have picked it up as at least a 3 season series. There is way too much to cover in 2 Movies.
Read the book. My own philosophy of future of humanity was challenged. Must read. Amazing how Denis and his cast captured this book.
@@dreboerte5864 Is there one book or is it a series?
Watchmojo: "10 things you missed in Dune"
Book readers who've seen the film 3 times: "haha no"
When you read the book , that's more like: "10 things Dune missed" :p
(I like the movie btw, it was just for the joke)
I'm a book reader, read it 3 times, and saw it 3 times... so far.
When I saw the movie, I was like the clothes in my version were much more flamboyant 😂
@@deadmeatbones6742 That's one of the thing that I like in Dune. There are not a lot of description so everybody have his own Dune in minde, even after watching the movie
Especially "did you notice their blue eyes? What does it mean? Are they born with it?" Really?!! Honestly?!
When Paul kills Jamis, notice that Jamis is in the middle of switching his knife to his other hand behind his back. In the novel, Chani warns Paul that Jamis is know to pull this exact move.
Whoa, that actually IS something I missed. Good find - thanks for sharing!
Yep. I was waiting for it.
OTOH, I was a bit disappointed they explained Paul's "playing with Javis" as Paul having not killed anyone yet, rather than the book's rationale of this being the result of over-specialization - Paul is so used of fighting against shielded opponents that he keep stabbing using low speed movements, giving time to Javis to dodge.
Although that makes him more human/humane and less of a cold killer.
(and admittedly, at that point he had "dreamed" repeatedly of killing plenty of people, so I don't deny he has plenty of ground to have some hesitations about the whole issue)
I feel there either there was another take where Chani told him that was cut, or they put it in there as a bit of an easter egg for fans.
@@SebV30 Perhaps Jessica gave that explanation to the Fremen, because if she explained that Paul had only trained in fighting with personal shields, Jamis could have exploited that information for an advantage in the fight. It also reiterates the point that making his first kill is a major turning point in his advancement from his past sheltered life as the son of the Duke to his new life and future, leading the Fremen against the empire.
Yes that was a cool addition to the scene!
Possessing the alternate vision of Jamis as his mentor, must have made killing Jamis that much more heavier for Paul.
But what a genius addition to the narrative. It wasn't in the original text, but it added such a depth to Jamis' death, and the stark new reality that Paul now had to face.
I didn't see the visions as alternate realities but more as figurative. Jamis did teach him a lesson about the desert. Paul died when Jamis died.
i liked that the audience was basically just as blind-sided as paul, especially for people like me who went into the theater without prior knowledge/having read the book.
@@levimain1479 they are kinda "alternate realities". They are in fact, branching points, the different paths that Paul could take.
There are 3 kinds of ornithopters shown in the movie, the Atreides make (more angular with 4 wings), the Harkonnen make (bulkier with 6 wings), and the... fremen (?) make 2 seater (round, more sleek, 4 wings)...
When I saw the ornithopters in the theater on day one I got teary eyed, so much of the essence of the book was captured within them.
Atreides also had some with 8 wings for transporting troops from the landing site to the population centers.
Are the 2 seaters Fremen or Imperial? I thought they were imperial and given to Kynes.
The dragon-fly-design of the ornithopters was absolutely perfect. And an awesome symbol for Caladan.... as dragon-flies are alien in a hostile desert environment.
Why do they rely on wings at all? They clearly have some kind of antigravity tech in this universe as seen with the imperial soldiers and the fat Harcon guy. Is this explained in the books?
@@Georgeous42 Dune is an analogous mechanical universe.... no computers... they altered humans to do the job as computers as seen with Thufir Hawat. And the navigators use spice as a drug for calculating the travels between the stars.
I love how in the end, when Jamis challenges Jessica to a fight, she starts taking her pack off so they can duel. She would have won easily because she knows the Bene Gesserit fighting style (weirding way). But ofc she gets stopped by Stilgar because he knows her status
"Top ten things you missed" without having read the books i didn't miss a single one of these. Villeneuve knows how to get a point across
Same.
@@ravendarkwell8791 same man same and am rereading them again
Same, I was afraid I wouldn't understand it given how many people thought it would be almost impossible to make into a movie.
I am afraid this version of Dune doesn't explain ANYTHING. We don't know what mentats are, why do they consume spice (or even why they do), what is the spice, why the spice is only found in Arrakis, why is the spice so important for the rest of the universe, what are the Harkonnens' agenda, what is the Emperors' agenda, what are the Sardaukars, what are the Bene Gesserit and what are their agenda, what A LOT OF THINGS that are completely ignored by Villeneuve movie. It is impossible that you realize what you are watching without having read the book. In Lynch's version this is much more detailed. Villeneuve's version is visually impressive but so void of meaning.
@@TylerDurden-id6yp 1. Actually the film did explain a lot of those things and it did it without flinging gobs of exposition at us.
2. I'm sure both versions have their merits.
3. Whatever Villeneuve's version lacks, perhaps it will inspire people to pick up the books themselves, which is a very good thing.
4. There's only so much you can do in 2 hours and 30 minutes, also we've been in a pandemic so we don't know what went on in editing/reshoots/etc.
There were scenes that were filmed but didn't make the cut. I hope there's a director's cut for home video release with those scenes added in because it was the fastest two and a half hours for this movie.
Jason Momoa was mentioning this and was saying that there should be a directors cut, Denis Villenuve said he appreciates the thought but the theatrical is his vision of the film.
But the dinner party and the "who's the traitor" plot... If there was anything missing from the theatrical cut, it was that. I hope we'll still get to see it somehow
A “directors cut” implies that Villenuve didn’t get the movie he wanted and I’m pretty sure he did.
An extended cut instead of a directors cut lol
@@zamkowicz and don't forget the emperor's betrayal and behind the scenes scheming with the Guild. Would have added depth and gravitas to the Harkonnen invasion of Arrakis with the Sarducar by their side.
One detail was missing from this list: the fact that lasers are also banned in the Dune Universe. The reaction between a laser and a shield is catastrophic, and that´s why humans have returned to the old ways of combat, using knives and swords instead.
I feel like a lot of cool little details like this are missed out and that's sad. Those details are what gives Dune its unique flavour.
They aren't banned, just dangerous to use
Yeah the one part of the movie that stuck out to me was when the Sardaukar were blasting at Duncan in the ornithopter with the laser which would have been a big no-no.
This annoys me though as returning to the old ways when modern weaponry is still available, relies on the honour of your enemy to abide by those same rules........... which they obviously didn't in this case.
@@nickmaclachlan5178 they were deceptive, but not fighting unfair. in the dune universe analogue guns are useless against their energy shields and the reaction of lasers with the shields would kill everyone with a nuclear explosion
The Harkkonen’s cruelty is their undoing. Dune’s cruel ecology combined with Harkkonen oppression makes it even more harsh place than Salusa Secundus, which is why the Fremen become the ideal warriors to defeat the Sardukar.
LoL right? Sardukar Warrior: "We must fight vicious, wild beasts and traverse harsh terrain just to make a life on our homeworld!". Fedaykin: "You get to make a life for yourself? Pfft. Must be nice!". :P
@@tarrker Exactly. The Sardaukar made a life for themselves, which made them complacent and weakened.
But bear in mind that the Fremen took them off guard the first time round. Had they been properly prepped and before Paul got hold of the spice secret (ie. nuclear button) they would have scoured the desert spotless of the fremen scum :P
@@tarrker I mean, i watched this movie out of curiosity today and i don`t understand that comment, we got like 3 min screentime of the evil guys. And the soldiers of them are mostly killing it, except against the noticible actors. Yeah i know there are 2 evil factions combined against our main idiots (who failed to send CIA ahead on the fkn desert planet so they would know they are walking into a trap) but i mean the villian is allive and well in his oiltank, they kind of won so far. Reading the books is required i think
@@jorgebush7519 yeah. The film glosses over some things that are essential, imo. If you're interested look up the Dune mini series here on CZcams. It's far from perfect but, it's a way better telling of the actual story.
@@tarrker Tbh i like this weird mystery in this film, the plot is a bit explained in the beginning of the movie and it`s obvious that this is gonna be atleast a 2 part Movie series, very entertaining weird movie in my opinion, i just disagree with the main comment, how the fk did he see any of this stuff happening in this movie, he just spoiling the shiett he read somewhere
Two fun details that were missed:
1. Just before Duncan's final fight you can see him pick up a beetle. This same beetle appears in Paul's vision of Duncan's death at the start of the movie.
2. The book hints at different models of ornithopters with different carry capacities. In the book the Duke says his thopter can carry an extra man when they go to rescue the spice miners from the crawler. In the movie we see at least 3 different models of ornithopter, each with a different number of wings. The Duke's has 4 on each side for 8 total. The one Paul flies near the end has 2 on each side for 4 total. And the one that Duncan uses to rescue Paul and Jessica after the attack has 3 wings on each side for 6 total.
If you watch a movie and the next day you spend time to look into lore, things you missed and forums..that means it had a impact :D
Very rarely do I give a movie an "EPIC" title but film is just that. I glad the WB gave it a good start and may part 2 continue this way
Hans Zimmer got us again with the beautiful soundtrack, can't wait to hear the rest of it that he's making!
Note the Wagnerian reference at 0:01
The sounds and music in this movie blew me away.
@@mateofantasma Ikr they really did bring the book to life. Man if only books had soundtracks to listen to while reading them.
Yes But Eclipse Would've Been Awesome! Why Zimmer Kept it Out is Beyond Me, it is a Song That Raises The Emotions of The Moment!!! I Do Hope it is In Part 2 After Zimmer Teased With it in the Trailer of Part 1 !
The best Sci-fi movie i've seen in a LONG time!! Im glad we got part 2 confirmed! Cant wait for october 2023
They confirmed it? Fuck ya!
i hop they move it to 2022
I hope they don't rush it and take time to make it properly.
Hear hear!
@@Feefa99 totally!
"It is a maker..."
This is a great example of a scene meant for those who read the book. Mapes asks Jessica if she knows the significance of the chrysknife. Jessica actually has no idea, but confidently begins to answer. She is about to say "it is a maker of death". You see her about to say the rest when Mapes reacts. Mapes thinks that Jessica knows that the sandworms and the makers are the same thing.
ABSOLUTELY
And I'm very glad they included the scene.
I had to stop and explain that part to my wife. She was more perplexed at that part than any other part of the movie.
@@Justin.Hawkins this is what makes me think Villeneuve actually filmed a bunch of these details and they ended up cut for runtime. we can only hope there's a director's cut coming.
I didn't read the book and I still can't figure out this scene, especially Mapes reaction
I literally thought Baron gave out major Marlon Brando/Colonel Kurtz vibes in the film when I watched it with a few friends. Superb acting from Stellan Skarsgard.
Yes!!
Yep!
Wow that’s a terrible shout
I mean i get that the look etc is a resemblance but the level of acting is night and day
Paul tells Duncan he stinks when meeting him after the scout mission. It's a reference to the book saying the fremen stink when being inside because of their stillsuits
I loved that part about Paul's visions of Jamis being his mentor and friend. I feel like it makes it more understandable for the audience to ger why it was hard to kill Jamis. Because he basically had an existing friendship with him. I do feel like Paul's visions of Jamis killing him were more of a message that you are killing yourself, like the voice in the vision said, than a possible future. Because also(spoiler alert for part 2) in the book he has to accept the responsibility of taking care of Jamis' family. So in essence he's killing the person he's going to be.
I think the fight went on longer because Paul's training had focused on defeating personal shields, which required slow attack and fast defense.
It probably dawned on Paul that he might win by flaunting his superior skills, but in fact it made Jamis think he was toying with him and thus only served to harden his resolve to see the fight through to the death.
@@bohellan6227 I agree that is definitely one of the factors. Something that was mentioned in the book too.
“Dreams are messages from the deep” The deep could also means deep from your own mind.
Not really. An unfortunate fact is that Herbert wrote his book when research into the brain was still haphazard and minuscule at best. He had no clue what he was writing about. There is no "deep mind". There's not even actually a "mind" at all. "You" are a side effect...window-dressing for your subconscious which makes all decisions before you even know there's a decision to be made. It's a measurable sliver of time, and it never operates in reverse, period. Your "conscious" mind is a permanent and total slave to your subconscious, without exception. Nothing but surgery could ever change it. Not even trauma to the brain could alter it. It could end it...but not alter it.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 sure
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 wow now that is deep
@@XenoRaptor-98765 exactly, how could we say that something is deep if it did not come from a deeper place within, that we only sparsely connect with and don't retain a fully conscious link with? I think it goes far beyond the materialistic understanding of 'mind' and usually doesn't factor in the many mysteries of the human consciousness such as dreams, their meanings, how they truly arise and how in many substantiated cases, dreams have actually come to pass, exactly as has been dreamt. I agree with your feeling that the 'deep' refers to the deeper (mysterious, expansive, unknown) aspects and factors of the consciousness. I feel that we, at our current level of understanding, simply don't know enough to say that anything is impossible, it's not black and white and is open to interpretation and exploration.
@@ezio8591 also I do have one question if scientists now that dreams are the brain’s way to process memories than how could people claim that they can see or predict the future from their dreams ?
Gurney: “I am Inevitable.”
Paul: “What?”
Gurney: “What?”
Paul: 🤨
Deadpool: Shut it thanos!
Paul: "so stupid, are u sure you're not from marvel universe?"
A little perplexed you omitted the symbolism of the bull. The bull being the namesake of House Harkonnen (derived from the Finnish name Härkönen, meaning bull, or bullish). Thus in a way, even the old duke was killed by the feud between the two houses. As a tradition laid by Pauls father, the bulls head and the portait of the old duke were set on opposite walls of the dining hall, once again representing the opposition of houses Atreides and Harkonnen.
And the bull still has the blood of the old duke preserved in its horns.
Is English not your first language?
@@bucketstuck7137 it's not.
@@snowbearer I didn’t think so; either way, you have a stronger grasp of the English language than most native speakers do so take pride in it.
@@bucketstuck7137 thank you kindly.
Another little detail in Dune Part 1:
The scene with the date palms on Arrakis.
In the book, the palms are introduced through Lady Jessica and Dr. Yueh. Basically Yueh is observing the reaction of the population of Arakeen to the trees and explains to Jessica that the people think "these are 100 of us" when they look at the plants with hate and envy. And no one EVER proposes to remove the palms to save water. I can't remember a single line in the book where any of the Atreides show sympathy or empathy towards the commom folk of Arakeen in regards to these palms. But not only that! Inside of the palace there is even a whole room full with exotic plants and even a small water fountian which need a massive amount of water per day. And of course everyone thinks that it is absolutely ok to keep the room and waste the water.
That was honestly one of the things that bothered me the most in the first part of the book.
In the film however, they took creative liberties to improve these scenes. First, they erased the room. Second they give Paul the opportunity to show his capability for empathy and willingness to do things for others without personally gaining anything from it. Simply by introducing the palms as holy items and letting Paul propose to remove them for the sake of saving water.
This might seem like an insignificant change but it actually made me like movie-Paul a lot more then book-Paul. And the only reason is that he shows this little bit of compassion towards random people who are basically irrelevant in the story.
Great analysis. They did have the plant room in the movie though. It’s the area where Duncan sacrifices himself. It just wasn’t lingered on too much.
@@SuperMcgangbang
Thank you!
But I think we are talking about different rooms. In the book, after the assassination attempt towards Paul (with that robot), he searches for his mother and finds her in this small separated room in their palace.
The room you are referring to exists in the movie and book. It's in the laboratory of Dr. Kynes.
@@SuperMcgangbang no thats a laboratory for water recycling, separate.
@@mohrle1100 Discount my correction! You know your stuff. Here I was thinking I caught a little Easter egg. I guess I misremembered. 😅
@@SuperMcgangbang
No worries. And to be fair, I just recently re-read the entire Dune cycle😁
The Dr isn't just betraying everything he represents. The Harkkonen’s have developed a way to circumvent Imperial conditioning, something believed to be impossible. The Dr should be literally incapable of betraying house Atreides.
He didn’t really betray them, he had no choice and only betrayed because he knew someone else would betray them and potentially kill them, he actually was the one deploying the hunter seeker and did not kill Paul or Kwisatz Haderach aka messiah if you read the book, he gives Paul a catholic bible for his adventures, he is a good man as well as why he gives the tooth to kill them, he actually is considered the prime suspect to be the traitor and Hawat believes this in the book however he went to the Suk School, a highly represented school and has a qualification to protect and serve the emperor giving him an all trusting eye and therefore qualification to be believed not as a traitor, and if you missed the emperor is in on it, therefore the emperor is on their side.
@@miknere3971 I just finished the book last week, maybe you need to read it again.
They completely glossed over the gravity of the conditioning and didn't develop Yueh enough. The betrayal didn't have nearly as much emotion as in the book.
@@shawnb.2558 I would have liked to have seen a bit more on that topic as well. I had to explain it to my wife.
@@miknere3971 This made no sense
I was remember watching the 1984 version over and over again as a kid, I've read all the books, seen the miniseries also which I thought was pretty cool... but out of everything this one is by far the best. I was super worried going to see it yesterday that it might not meet the ultra high standard I was holding it to...it was fucking outstanding. Blew me away.
Ditto. I was scared it wouldn’t quite live up to the books, but it was glorious. I NEVER watch a movie more than once, but I’ve already seen this twice, and plan to see it again.
I thought it masterfully dealt with the idea that the Bene Gesserit had seeded Arakis with mythology for their own purposes. That was very clear. So Paul will bend that to his own purposes of revenge in Pt 2, knowing full well that it will give rise to fanaticism and an unstoppable holy war. So their scheming, manipulative hands were all over everything, and they were quite sinister and cold.
Me too. Best cinematic experience in a long time. Seen it 1x in a theatre and 4 times on my tv and still enjoy it like it was the first time. Such a masterpiece. Cant wait for oktober 2023.
Same.
I describe Dune 2021 as "the dev team watched the 1984 movie and the 2000's miniseries, and decided "let's keep the good things and improve the bad ones" "
The '84 version feels more epic.
Im a fan fo Villeneuves work! Loved Sicario, Arrival and was flattened by the sheer beauty and atmosphere of Dune. I have to say I feel like Blade Runner 2049 is still Villeneuves greatest Sci Fi movie to this date.
Hands down the best
@@dominiquepowell3158 word!
Arrival is the most beautiful movie I've ever seen. I'm still moved just thinking of it.
Dune is MUCH better than BBD2049 in my opinion. The latter just didn't work for me.
Blade runner 2049 was phenomenal, loved the aesthetics and sounds, truly a masterpiece.
Dr. Yueh speaks Mandarin with Paul, was impressed by Tim's pronunciation
I always thought Leto kept the bull's head around as a sort of memento mori, a reminder that he should never grow overconfident and give in to recklesness like his father did. The irony is that that is exactly what ends up happening - Arrakis is Leto's bull. He knew he was walking into a trap, but because of his overconfidence, he thought he could overcome it anyway, much like his father willingly endangered himself in the arena because he believed he would win. The final look Leto gives the severed head in the dining hall is him realizing that despite how much he tried to be different, he is about to die for the exact same reason as his father.
"A Star Wars for adults."
- Denis Villeneuve
He wasn't kidding about it.
@Only The truth read the books, you'll be surprised lol...
@Only The truth Since you used the word 'spicy': MILD BOOK SPOILERS BELOW:
There is a part in the first book where all the Fremen basically get hopped up on Spice and have an orgy. I won't go into the reasons why, it has to do with a crucial part of the story.
In the book too (but skipped in the 2021 movie), the Baron Harkonnen also has a taste for young boys, especially ones that look like his nephew. I've put it quite lightly here, but the Baron is an absolute scumbag of a villain.
Also from the book: In Fremen culture, you basically inherit everything a man owns if you kill him in ritual 1 on 1 combat. Not just his physical possessions, but also his wife and children to treat however the victor sees fit, if I remember correctly. And his coffee-service, the Fremen really love their coffee.
Also, the fact they're basically fighting over magic space drugs... But yeah, it's more the political themes of the book that make it a more adult book - it's also not the easiest book to read but it's by no means the hardest either, and most certainly worth reading.
Pray that they are not going to start that 'Star Wars vs Dune' debacle in years to come.
But... Star Wars is actually fun. As impressive as this film was in some ways, it was not fun. Well, except for the sand worms. Seeing them on the big screen was something else.
Also, I can't remember the last time a movie's soundtrack annoyed me this much. The hours of slow, ponderous bass notes, even during fast-paced chase scenes, literally gave me a headache. Whereas in Star Wars, the music and sound effects are always very strong, even if the rest of the movie isn't.
Just one thing regarding the last point: Paul was a powerful prescient who did not only see the future, he effectively saw all possible futures diverging from the present moment and circumstances, including the results of his own actions. It was like taking hold of a very long lever, and by moving it a little bit, the other end moved across the universe. It was repeatedly stated in the books that a seer of Paul Muad'dib's abilities did not just see the future but created it. This became a major theme later on, with humanity first being saved, then escaping the prescient hold of such individuals.
First of all, this movie tripped me the f** out. I like going into movies not knowing anything about them, like nothing. I got the full experience. Had never heard of Dune before.
I thought one of the more interesting aspects was the "dark voice" and hidden sign language communication used. It added a different level of anticipation and intensity to scenes that were already suspenseful. I thought it was really brilliant, and I'd like to know more.
The books are worth a read.
An interesting the movies bring to the fore that the books dont is the early sense of urgency and fear plaguing the atreides family as they go to arrakis and try to get ready for the harkonen attack.
Another they do differently but instead equally well is pushing onto you just how precious water is to that world.
Finally, something they translate interestingly from the books is the pressing sense of fate. Of an inevitable future Paul is terrified to see come true. Of countless wars, bloodshed, and slaughter, both with him at the fore, and those committed in his name, often as a martyr.
He walks a knife edge later in the book (past where the movie ends) to avoid both that future and his own death, noting the dangerous amount of influence he has and the false legends he can generate simply by being in the same room as something notable happens.
Its something they forshadowed interestingly, and I hope they play with it more in the Part 2.
There was a lot of interesting symbolism, when Leto placed his seal on the contract to take dune you can see Jessica wince and it's because she knows he has just sealed his fate. The bull symbol represents his doom just as his father Pauls grandfather died to a bull, Leto died to a bull named the Barron
Even Leto Himself knew, shit is about to Hit the Fan. But you dont denie the Emperor. House Atreidis would just die much quicker
In the book it is heavily hinted that Leto will be dead soon. DUKE says it outright a few times.
@@773fishing2 oof I'm not commenting on the plot point, rather it's a comment about the symbolism the way Denis Villeneuve shot the frames of the movie so masterfully.... Sad it flew over your head
Jessica is wincing because the Reverend mother was staring her down to show she knows Paul was supposed to be a girl. Jessica immediately looks scared and looks over at Paul. Soon after the Bene Gesserit visit Caladan to test Paul.
@@djmaus7909 Are the Bene Gesserit telepaths? I got the feeling her reaction was the two of them having a conversation that wasn’t shared with the audience.
I was kinda sad that Jamis died, seeing him as his potential mentor puts things into perspective for the timeline of our realities.
In a sense it puts killing people into perspective
Paul's visions aren't necessarily tangential time lines. He says early on in his interview with the Reverend Mother that his visions simply don't always play out verbatim to what he sees.
they are timelines, the spice on arrakis allows him to basically further explore all of the possibilities so that he can guide the timeline the way he wants in a sense. that in conjunction with his training as a mentat makes him incredibly smart and prescient.
@@ericb6021 in the novels, yes, I'm talking about the latest film. They may go verbatim, or they may do something different, and as of now they have already set the stage for either direction.
yeah the whole timeline waffle is such a stupid read, not that i expected a very nuanced one from watchmojo lol
The Atreides Anthem being primarily of bagpipes is a reference to Caladan having an origin of Celtic settlers. House Atreides is more Greek, but clearly has been with Caladan culture long enough to adopt it.
About the bull trophy… it still has Paul’s grandfather’s blood on the horns.
Just got back from the theater and I enjoyed every minute of it!
Right! You know about the deadass bro at the end??? 🤣💀
@@fatbgmanbg975 yeah!
It’s one of those movies I’ve already watched 4 times. Needless to say I obviously wasn’t disappointed.
what is soooooo gratifying is that this movie shows there are still PROPERLY creative people in hollywood, to do Frank Herbert justice is an opus.
whoever the bigwig in hollywood who green lit this project and didn't turn it into starwars 2.0 was ... WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH
you have literally made the world a better place x
Agreed.
Gotta thank Denis Villeneuve for that. He's an auteur filmmaker so he probably fought hard to have his own creative control over this film and not let the studio mess with it
It was ok. Looked fine and all but it missed out soooooo much of the rich texture of Dune.
After the Lord Of The Rings, this is one of the rare examples of cinema which gives justice to it's novel.
0:24
Chani: “Oh hey, this is you.”
Paul: “Woah.”
The atmosphere, not other book or movie has such incredible atmosphere. That's why I can't get enough of it, it is so unique.
I mean, hopefully no one missed the blue eyes, that's a defining trait of Dune lol.
Perhaps the best movie experience I've ever had. Dune was amazing, although perhaps a bit rushed and shallow in certain details, but that is to be expected when going the movie route instead of the high budget TV series route like Game of Thrones. This is the first movie I have ever wanted to go see again in the theaters. I have HBO, which has Dune, but I will go back to the theaters to see it again instead of watching it at home. The sound track, the cinematography, everything was fantastically overwhelming and drew you in the entire time.
#9 is explained in the banquet scene, one of the many reasons they should have kept that in the movie.
#8 The dropping of the Mentat story line is going to hurt the whole movie. In dropping this they also drop that Paul was raised with the mentat training and that is a major factor on why he is such a threat.
#7 More important: WHY DID HIS FACIAL HAIR CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE?? This is unheard of.
#6 Dropping the Suk explanation really hurts the emersion as to why Yuri doing this is SUCH a big deal.
#5 Surprisingly the movie took the time to explain this buuuut not a ton of other actually important plot points.
#3 Again: the damage of dropping the Mentat storyline will be extensive.
#1-2 Wait.. That's your big thing?? See my notes below:
Ok Visually stunning, very impressed.
I think it did a decent job at trying to explain the story without holding the readers' hand. A fine line to walk.
Storywise I have a few issues:
1. The Sardaukar attacked in their uniforms. In the book they were disguised. Having them out in the open is going to be interesting to see what happens because the evidence that the Emperor was behind the attack (or supporting) is right out in the open.
2. The camera angle at the signing when the Duke looked at the Herald of the Change was weird. Almost on purpose maybe? but I can't figure out why.
3. Wow, we just skipped over the feud between Thufir Hawat and Lady Jessica huh? AND we really cut out the tearing apart the place looking for the traitor to: oh um he was in the wall. oops.
4. Where is Gurney's baliset??? Where? "Play us a song Gurney" really doesn't make since to the new people if Gurney doesn't have his instrument or at least sings at some point.
5. Duncan's ever fading facial hair. Dude gets a handful of scenes and different facial hair in every single one. Major character....big change with no explanation.
6. Shadout Mapes They did our girl diiiiirty. She was already a background character but damn.
7. They cut the dinner scene!! What? What? this was huge. The dinner scene was why the Fremen trusted the water fat outworlders. Also huge politics.
8. We spent a lot of time learning about how to walk in the desert to not ... do ... that.
9. Their water discipline sucked. So many faces and heads exposed.
10. Fighting in still suits? really? Those things are expensive.
11. We're just going to skip over why we don't have thinking machines and why that means we test Paul? okay.
12. The kneecapped Jessica! Holy shit. Yeah she powers up here soon but she was not the weak mewing creature they showed in part 1. She was a /FORCE/
13. We're skipping over that Paul also received Mentat training since birth too.
Absolutely! So much time, so much missed out. Loved it but was ultimately a little let down. I hope DV can have a bit more freedom in Dune 2
10. Fighting in still suits? really? Those things are expensive.
About 10... pretty sure they do fight in stillsuits my bro. You will just die in the desert from the sun and dehydration without it. What, do you think they remove it when they go to combat? For what, to fight naked? No instance of it in the book too. So yeah, pretty sure all fighting is done with stillsuits on. While "expensive", the fremen manufacture that shit like crazy since everyone in the desert needs it.
@FredMaverik " ' 10. Fighting in still suits? really? Those things are expensive. ' "
I think @mrothgeb is talking about the trial by combat between Paul and Jamis. In the book, they strip down to their shorts for the fight, to protect their stillsuits. They wouldn't be carrying spare stillsuits while patrolling the desert.
(IIRC, the fight is also indoors, so there is less moisture lost to the desert - their perspiration would be recaptured by equipment in the shelter.)
Everyone said this movie was just ok , I enjoyed it quite a bit , was completely captured by the atmosphere of the film and was a hell of a lot more easy to understand than the 1984 version lol
Who's been saying it was just ok?
Masterpiece imo
For sure.
It is just ok
@@MrBabyBlue1993 I can definitely see where people are coming from
It needed a little for exposition and it struggled to transfer between scenes naturally but the visuals and sound design make up for that
Plus the pure poetry of a story
It was OK in my humble opinion as well. Maybe I am numbed by the spectacles presented by MCU and Star Wars. But I found this future doesn't match with the amount of time It sets itself into. All the fight scenes were done with blades of some kind and although we saw a glimpse of some kind of gun It was not used. I find It weird. But It's just my opinion. It is technically brilliant though.
Dune was freaking EPIC!!! I cannot wait for Part 2!
I liked the detail in Villeneuve's Dune that Yueh's wife may be the spider thing the Baron keeps as a pet, as we never find out her fate in the books.
She's dead ...that's why yueh is killed and 'joins' her. This is both in the book and the film. Even Denis isn't dark enough to go that route I reckon, the spider is a bene tleilax creation and is just a small nod to the wider dune universe that exists.
The baron lied about her still being pain amplifiers when she had been killed long ago in order to blackmail Yueh.
@@frawgeatfrawgworld fair enough I’ll read the chapter again at some point
Dear _gods…_
I think in the movie Yueh trust what the baron said is not a smart move, I remember he’s very smart and able to calculate possibilities, he should know baron will not release his wife no matter how. in the book Yueh predicted Paul’s family will die and he pretend to side by the baron is actually make more sense.
I was expecting WatchMojo to mention all the moments in which the desert mouse is shown. It's in the hologram and in several scenes in the desert and they even made sure to make a visual mouse shape on the second moon when Leto and Gurney are talking about the large moon. Knowing the book, it's definitely foreshadowing.
Yeah, the desert mouse is 1, crysknife scene with jess is another, sleeping pills before the takeover, drum sand, battle language/sign language, navigators at the beginning...those are the things that you can miss. Some of the things on this list are laughable.
I like to think that the alternate timeline is what would have happened if the Atreides had been able to make deals with the Fremen the way Duke Leto wanted with it being done in a peaceful way, instead of the desperation that Paul and Jessica face after the Duke's dead and thus needing to prove themselves due to having nothing else to offer
I read this book when I was in my teens. I'm now 69. Hadn't realised until I watched this movie version - way better than the previous attempt btw - how much it has influenced my life. "Fear is the little death..."
But one of my favorite quotes was badly mangled. When Paul says he's not in the mood for fighting, the answer is: "What has mood to do with it? ... Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting."
The jamis scene killed me because of the vision he had that showed Jamis becomin Paul’s mentor. When I heard them say his name jamis I knew right then and there he wasn’t gonna last
Another thing: The Selusan Bull is an incredibly minor reference in the original novel however in non-canon extended media like the Dune video games it is the emblem of House Harkonnen (In the books it's a blue Griffon). The Bull despite killing the Old Duke was itself slayed by the Old Duke in his dying breath, as such the iconography of the Bull during the film's dining room scene where the Leto in his dying breath makes his final stand is essentially referencing the Bull = Harkonnens, they've killed him but in his final death throw attempts to kill them.
I’ve not read any of the books prior to watching this movie and I really liked the way this universe takes place in the future. Nothing fancy with AI computers or strobing lights. The way their ships are designed as well as their homes is just a more advanced modern contemporary build if that makes sense. I also liked how all soldiers were fighting close combat and preferred close combat rather than using any sort of future weapon blasters or something of that kind. The use of sign language was pretty cool.
If you get hit with a "lasgun" while wearing a shield, it creates an explosion and you die. Hence the sword fights!
Yes, the lack of AI makes the story timeless (it was written in the 50s I think)
Been listening to the audiobook, if you like the movie, you would definitely like the book, very intricate world building
No mention of how interstellar space actually works or what the "Navigators" are, and how spice is actually used by them. The fact that Paul will be able to bend spacetime is talked about early, but nothing about how the Navigators do it already, how those giant ships take all the other ships from planet to planet. I hope there is some mention in 'the messiah'.
Oh Paul's little sister is a gangster in the books.
And is left alone, to become insane later.
The biggest missing thing for me, was the whole scheme played by the Harkonnens & Yueh to make Leto and Gurney feel the treason coming and concluding "Jessica is the traitor" while allowing Yueh to carry out his treason. You only get a glimpse of that when Leto asks Jessica "Promise me you'll take care of Paul; whatever happens", before getting...you know... stingy stingy.
there's a lot missing, but hopefully the overwhelming cry for the cut-scenes will make vill choose the golden path
that, in a nutshell, illustrates the core issue with turning dense source material like Dune into theater-cinema. They can't include everything.
@@S0ulinth3machin3 As a dune fan, I heavily enjoyed the movie, havent been hyped for a movie in such a long time. But, it would be another 30 minutes to an already long runtime, I wish Dennis would do an extended director cut to add more detail in several spots.
100% agreed
The way they came off the ship with the bagpipes leading them had the be the dopest thing I’ve seen in a film for a while, all in all this movie was fucking phenomenal
Great vid,…..also the reason they kept showing that kangaroo mouse is because it’s name is muadib,…when stilgar asked Paul what name he wanted to be known as in the tribe,paul described that animal ,hence forward he became Paul muadib.
The movie was a pure bliss, I felt like I was in a completely different world, after Avatar; Dune gave me this same feel.
The Butlerian Jihad was a rebellion by humans against their AI overlords. Humanity was not over-dependent upon AI/thinking machines, it was, in part, RULED by them (according to the later novels by Herbert's son). Hence the commandment in the Orange Catholic Bible: Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
That and the AI forcing Jehanna Butler to have an abortion when she was carrying the Kwisatch Haderach. As the galaxy blew apart, it took the Bene Gesserit millenia to get back to where they were with J Butler. IIRK
Ever since the remake got announced years ago I slowly started studying Dune and all the Dune books and lore. Man my nights have been filled with so many sci fi marathon audiobooks I have the trippiest dreams and thoughts. I love hearing about the lore of it all from certain CZcams channels and just letting Dune audiobook plays while I sleep haha. Dreams are messages from the deep.
@2:29 what I find really interesting and what's only hinted at in the book is that the blue eyes are an adaptive mechanism that allow the Fremen to see better on a glaring, sand-covered planet. It's mainly just seen as a quirk or to indicate who's "addicted" to spice, but it's truthfully a way the desert helps its inhabitants, its true inhabitants adapt and survive.
It would explain why no one seems to wear protective eyewear on Arrakis. You've got masks for your face but the constant sandstorms are no problem for the eyes?
This isn’t too different from baseball. In baseball, players with lighter, bluer eyes, have an easier time seeing the ball against a blue sky, and have a slight advantage playing outfield against players with darker eyes
@@JasonBoyce There you go! I feel like this is not appreciated enough, the brilliance of it. It's just seen as a quirk of the spice, but Herbert really put thought into this and he should be commended.
I had no idea what Dune was about. I'm completely fascinated with the movie. I'm sad that Part 2 was only just approved recently. I hope we get a lot more than a trilogy.
Don’t be sad. In the book, there’s a fast forward of 2 years after Paul goes to the sietch with Chani and Stilgar. Paul begins going to the sietch at the end of the movie, so since Dune Part 2 comes out in 2 years, it’ll make sense.
4:58 yoooo that's a MAJOR spoiler for Dune Messiah and onward. There are people who haven't read the books.
6:00 it doesn't "go *against* everything the imperial conditioning stands for". The conditioning is supposed to make them INCAPABLE of doing harm even if they wanted. That's where the shock lies. The Harkonnens managed to break that somehow.
I was only 150 or so pages into the book when I saw the movie, just finished it and it was great to have more of a visual of the characters and settings as I continued with the story.
The scene with Sardukar, their language and throat singing is so ominous, it's been on my mind
Small wonder it became so memetic.
The Fremen in the front of the group, perched on the rocks, looking over at Paul and Jessica heading down a dune after their crash - is Jason Momoa (after Duncan's death). You can tell by the scars on his forehead and eyebrow. Don't know if this will be relevant to the story or its just for good trivia but that's definitely him.
I thought it was him in another vision of Paul's or if he's the ghola Duncan
Just watched the movie last night and I'm in love with the history and lore surrounding this universe. I've been binge watching all I can on explaining everything about it and the universe it takes place in. Really looking forward to the next movie.
I've been a Dune geek for almost 60 years, and I thought this was the best movie version so far. A few changes from the book; some good, some not-so-much. I liked Dr. Liet-Kynes a lot; she was splendid. The ornithopters were perfect; all the tech and architecture looked just right. The date palms were a poignant change; very effective. The Sardaukar speaking Black Speech was ridiculous; I literally laughed out loud when I heard it, because WTF?!? I realize that it's movie-convention to show protagonists' faces uncovered, even when fighting without helms would lose them their heads too, but it was still annoying to see Fremen trekking around Arrakis - after sunrise, even! - with their faces bare to the dessicating air. I don't understand why people are saying "Oh, I hope they do a sequel!" when it's patently obvious that they stopped 1/3 of the way through the book because this was intended as a TRILOGY from the start. Well, fine; plenty of material there, and after that, they'll probably do 'Dune Messiah' and 'Children of Dune' as a trilogy together, and 'God Emperor' as a trilogy by itself, eventually making a lovely boxed set of 9 extended editions. I'll buy it.
Wow your old LOL
I don’t think there’s enough left in the book for 3 films from the original. It’s clearly meant to be a 2 parter
The second part is meant to do the rest of Dune; the third part in the trilogy will cover Dune Messiah (a shorter book, that could provide satisfying finality to the movie trilogy)
I'm reading the book now, this film ends at just about 2/3 of the first book. You won't need 2 more films to finish the first book, guaranteed.
the sardaukar are pussies in this version. Just stormtroopers
When I first watched this movie, I watched it a second time after it ended. Then the next day I watched it a third time. This movie made me want to live in it. I wanted to watch more and more, even though the movie in no way felt like it was shory or quick.
Starwars was never my thing but this... this has me hooked.
This movie was incredible. As a longtime fan of the books, it was absolute bliss to watch
I read the book before watching the movie and man the book is just beyond amazing!!! The movie is good but is also disappointing because it leaves behind a lot of details that make the story more engaging. I think Dune should be made into a series like Game of Thrones and it would be just beyond amazing
Yes! Omg! Yes! X
During Jamis' funeral, like the others, Paul says "I was a friend of Jamis. Jamis taught me that when you kill, you pay for it. I wish I've known Jamis better." They should've included this scene to end this first part of the movie. It would've explained a lot about the dreams referring to Jamis as a friend and a mentor.
Amazing film the only downside is that it ended but luckily we get a part 2!
Not a reader of the Book has missed those things.
And what about the strange black human spider? I think that it's a tleilaxu creature.
I think you are right and they used it to replace the barron's "Toys"
(some) non-readers also got most of it ;)
and what about the strange black woman named Kynes?
@@skiddzjust1389 she was great.
@@leniclenic bs
The Dune universe to me was unknown, and after seeing the movie I became slightly obsessed with some things, such as the vehicles shape and function, the languages that made appearance, the cultures and traditions, but the real function of the Spice made me really confused, I thought it was needed as fuel, but then I found some scenes of the movie of the 1980s where I understood more clearly the role of the Spice. Guess I'm going to start reading the novels to go deeper inside what for me is a new world
Enjoy. You will love it.
Here’s something they missed, dr liet kynes was trying to rid away on a sandworm after Duncan’s death when she pulled out those hooks those were for riding the worm
That was a small but cool change to the story, that allowed for a really great visual scene.
I have read the books since I was a teenager, seeing this movie has given the screen adaptation a fresh and proper representation. The novels are not just the original concept for this flick and the inspiration for many other concepts such as Star Wars, Warhammer 40k etc but it is one of the forefathers of true science fiction. A science fiction that not only creates a concept and looks at it but also analyse it in a way that could be scientifically feasible in our reality.
Paul’s first line is:
“Why do we have to go through all this if it’s already been decided?”
This is a direct reference to themes of prophecy, prescience and predestination.
I totally got the Brando-apocalypse homage while watching this.
Alia of The Blade was in the first movie…and it shows how Paul’s transformation starts the second he steps on the planet and inhales the Spice.
“The Witch sees too much.” Alludes to the Reverend Mother who tests Paul for humanity(Face Dancers) with the Gom Jabbar because she is a Truthsayer and can detect any lies.
Mentats came about after the War On Machines since thinking machines are banned humans are trained as Mentats to calculate faster than even computers!
Duncan Idaho is a Ginaz Swordmaster. He spent eight years learning every single form of combat with hand or blade known to man…so it’s awesome he mixed it up since that’s what Duncan would do. Oh wow nice job on the ghoula reference talk about foreshadowing!!!!
The Suk were mentally conditioned to go crazy before they would hurt a patient…but the Baron drove him to such sadness it overrides everything.
The grandfather died acting as a matador with a Salusian Bull….same plant the Sardukkar are trained on.
Definitely the best Baron portrayal I have seen since the miniseries and the best overall, especially The Beast Rabban.
Ok I’ll shut up and enjoy lol
Man that tent scene is powerful.
Just might be one of the best book to film adaptions I’ve seen. It was amazing.
For someone who didn't read the book i did good. Most of this i got from the movie the 1st time a round.
The only thing i missed in this movie was how doctor Yueh disabled the entire defense system and coms. LOL
Top 10 things literally nobody missed in Dune.
Haah, I thought I was smart by picking up on them
11:20 - It wasn't two Paul's in two possible timelines. It was the same Paul.
Paul Atreidis did "die" at the hands of Jamis, just not literally but symbolically.
Earlier in his vision, the voiceover says:
"Paul Atreidis must die. The Kwisatz Haderach to rise.
Don't be frightened. Don't resist.
When you take a life, you take your own."
Then at the last staredown right before the final blow, the voiceover again with visions of fire:
"Kwisatz Haderach... Climb up.... Rise.... "
At that point on Paul Atreidis died and Muad'Dib was born.
Watched this last night - absolutely insane! Can anyone get part 2 out before the end of the week please?
I read Dune when I was 13 years old. I didn’t read the entire series several times. I’ve also read the prequel‘s written by Frank Hebert,s son. Can’t wait to see Dune part 2.
That Sardukar scene got my spine tingling for real. Very good movie
I got the fear! Best scene. Should have been much more of that IMO. Baron Harkonen versus MC Secundus.. No contest man! X
12:18 I could not contain my laughing in the theater whenever someone said 'desert power'. That was just too silly. The rest was good and I hope part 2 will drive it home.
Idk if it was that funny.. to each his own though I guess
I did miss a few of these. I guess that means I’ll just have to see it again. And maybe one more time after that in case I missed a thing or two.
"Duncan can always come back as a Ghola" way to spoil the Dune sequels