How I Use the Electro-Voice Evolve 50M for Live Acoustic Gigs
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2023
- I'm sharing my FIRST-TIME experience with you using my new EVOLVE 50M portable column PA system by Electro-Voice.
Let me start by saying this has changed everything and has made my solo gigging life so much easier.
I'd like to thank the folks at Electro-Voice for sponsoring this video. You can learn more about the Evolve 50M and get the specs here on their website: bit.ly/3KZ21Jc
***Where I love the Evolve 50M, you may find that the 30M is perfect if you play mostly small to mid-size venues for solo shows. Here are my Sweetwater links to both:
➡️ Evolve 30M: sweetwater.sjv.io/anoNmQ
➡️ Evolve 50M: sweetwater.sjv.io/75aGzA
In the video, I show you exactly how I use the Evolve 50M for my live solo gigs. These gigs are mainly acoustic but I also play some electric leads as well as acoustic instrumentals between singing songs.
I show you all of the connections and how to place portable column PA systems on the stage, in general.
This is all being demonstrated at my largest venue, Keel and Curley Winery in Plant City, FL. And I really appreciate the opportunity to play there (also thanks to Todd and Kuhl One Management for getting me this gig).
This is a larger stage than most venues and is set up for a full band. This place also gets packed, especially on weekends, which I was playing on a Friday while filming this video.
You'll also hear some of my live performances using the Electro-Voice Evolve 50M and for several instances that include: playing and singing, talking, acoustic instrumental, duo (my wife sings with me some), and acoustic instrumental with electric guitar solos.
This gives you a wide range of how you can use the Evolve 50M for live solo gigs adding other elements.
Of course, as you would expect from me, I share several live performance tips with you (be sure to hang around for the end where I share more context behind working with Electro-Voice for this).
I hope you enjoy the video and find it helpful. Be sure to leave any questions and your experience as a live music performer in the comments.
Keep Playing Music,
Jason
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Thank you SO much! Going to gig with this unit for the first time tonight. Stoked!
Really awesome to hear that and good luck tonight, and the many more gigs to come!
Sweet man, looking forward to it!
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Thanks Jason, I'm doing exactly what you are doing and second gig is this weekend. First one levels where everywhere! lol. So I feel more prepared. Love the channel and your delivery of info.
Yeah it takes a couple of times but after that, you know where everything needs to be and it really doesn't change except for the overall volume, depending on the venue. Glad to see you out there doing it!
Came across this in one of the EV FB forums--just an amazingly detailed and helpful rundown. I love my 30m and this video helped me tons, thanks for posting! Great closing commentary about giving value.
Thank you and it's awesome to know this is now being found in other places! I've got more videos coming out on the Evolve 50M so stay tuned (just filmed a video yesterday using a floor monitor with it for larger stages and when you may have other guests playing/singing with you).
Oh man I’ve been waiting for this one!
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Thank you Jason. Great video, and wisdom of giving. I have a pair of EV Evolve 50's. Every week for the last 4 years I have put these speakers throught their paces, and they have always provided a crisp and punchy sound. Ive used them with a 5 piece RnB band, 7 piece Afrobeat band, Acoustic solo gigs, acoustic duo for weddings (which I only use one speaker for), and for DJ's. The ease of setup and packdown alone has saved me sooooo much time that it is an incredible system for hard working musicians. I think its time to upgrade to the 50M!
Thank you for sharing this it’s awesome to see how long and how much you’ve used this!
Great insight into the experience of the system. Been using the 50s for about 3 years now and they still amazing System
Thank you...yeah, these systems are great!
Thanks for these videos man, super helpful.
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Great video man and thanks for the in depth review and words of wisdom at the end. Sounding great! I have an older Bose compact which I like but I love the idea of the built in mixer on the EV.
Yeah, I really like to mixer having more channels. I still prefer a physical soundboard and I'm going to be sharing another video using one with the 50M soon (I'll be covering using a floor monitor with it this weekend at a gig if it doesn't get rained out!)
Jason is by far one of the coolest and nicest guys in the metal community.
I appreciate that dude 🙏🤘
Great to hear from a good ole fashioned hard working musician whose whole life is entertaining. Great demo , I’d be a bit nervous about the electric guitar as well with the EV but you seem to have conquered it . Keep up the good work from Ireland.
Thank you! You shouldn't have any issues with your electric. As long as you're satisfied with your effects processor (or if you're miking an amp), it should sound really good through the Evolve!
AWESOME! I will check this outtt. Thank you :))))))
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I have a pair of Evolve 30Ms in white and I couldn't be happier with them! I only need to take one out for smaller gigs and have the second one for larger gigs when I take both. They look and sound great and are great value considering the comprehensive mixer that's included in the system. Thanks for the video and keep up the great work.
I bet two of those sound great!
@@jasonstallworth not only do they sound great in stereo but they also provide for a bigger sound for larger gigs. I used mine as a pair for a gig of about 230 people in a big shed and I got complimented for how good they sounded despite the crappy echoey acoustics.
Dang!! That's awesome man. I'm glad it cuts down setup time because that's one of the only cons to playing out live! The app is cool too man.
Dude it saves so much time and hassle! And I’m really happy with the sound quality.
Hi Jason! This is the first video of your that I've watched which includes you and your wife singing, awesome man! I live in Florida so I hope to catch you live sometime!
Thank you, and yeah, if you make it to a gig, definitely let me know and we'll have a beer!
thanks Jason! I just bought this system and Im excited to get rolling
It’s a great system! Here’s my latest setup with it: czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.htmlsi=2Y37roqIvfZXj1kJ
@@jasonstallworth I’m grateful
It's nice to see how much you like the 50M. I agree that boosting the electric when playing lead woudl be helpful. I appreciate you sharing your advice about adding value to the venue and the audience. BTW, I'm faily new to gigging and currenly playing venues that have their own PA systems but I'm thinking about buying my own sound equipment. This video is helpful in making that decision (I'm currently comparing acoustic amps (Fishman Loudbox Performer vs Boss Singer Pro vs TC Helicon V100) vs column array systems (30M vs the Peavey LN 1036)).
Thank you and I have a complete guide to getting start playing solo gigs here (I know you're already doing it but may find some helpful things in this video): czcams.com/video/dy0Ru6RHH9c/video.html
You’re a sounding great live man!
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GREAT video!
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That sounds really cool Jason I could use something like that you sound really good when you perform keep up the awesome work 👍👍🆒🆒
Thank you! Yeah, this system just simplified my setup in a huge way! Very easy to set up and tear down
Thank you for sharing.
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I did not know that they had added channels and connectivity to Evolve 50. Very useful! I used one Evo 50 to do a benefit with a friend of mine for an 80 year-something drummer that wanted to play one last gig. The casinos used to send limos for this guy to sit in with their headliners back in the day. We were on a very busy intersection in Boulder, NV. I played a Taylor 614-CE, my friend played a bass and our buddy played a cocktail set. We had only planned to play an hour, but played 4! I used a Profx12v3 into the EV for my front end. The audience loved the sound and the business wanted to have us back every weekend. Not possible with one coming from LA and me coming from Laughlin, NV area. The drummer has passed on now. So happy to give him fresh memories and live audience appreciation! BTW, my wife is from Mindanao, and after hearing her karaoke I would never let her near a PA system! Thanks for the video!
That's awesome and thank you for sharing! I just looked up Mindanao. We've never been to the Philippines but want to visit someday. We're in Thailand at the moment
@@jasonstallworth I think I have been in every Buddhist temple north of Pattaya! Food is generally better and safer in Thailand than in Philippines. Only food poisoning I caught in Thailand was from Colonel Sanders! Eating from street vendors, no problem! Enjoy your trip and thanks for the video!
Great Video Jason, I just got myself the EV 50 last week and hoping to be doing a gig with it next weekend. Hopefully it sounds as good as your one 👌
I think you'll love it! It does take some getting used to. I'll be using mine again this coming weekend but will be bringing my EV monitor and plan to do a video on that!
@@jasonstallworth be great to see that video of you using the monitor. I have been using in ear monitors but will see how it goes now using the EV 50. Great videos you are doing. Helps me out a lot, thanks 🙏
Wow! What a great video. I’ve really grown tired of taking a mixer, two speakers, speaker, stands and cables, etc. etc.. thanks to you and this video it’s time for me to transition
Yeah, carrying and setting up all that gear gets tiresome! I'm glad I finally got one of these column systems!
@@jasonstallworth that’s why I tell the place where I gig, I charge $400 for carrying in and carrying out all of my gear. I’ll throw in the performance for free.
Sounds really good. In my duo we use an array system but it’s a cheap no name brand. I don’t think it sounds really good. However the higher quality EV and Bose arrays sound great. I def want to get one one day. As of now I have a Fishman Loudbox Performer for when I start solo gigging (hopefully soon). It handles just my vocals and acoustic. But one day I’d love to get a nice line array system. I just want to thank you Jason. Your channel has really inspired me to get out on my own and do solo gigs. I’m picking a niche genre like you too (80s with a side of 70s). Mine is 90s Rock, Grunge & More. I’ve taken a lot of your tips for my duo and definitely applying them to my future solo gigs too. Cheers and thank you!
You’re welcome and I appreciate you being a part of my channel and for all the support. You’ve got endless songs with that genre!
And you’re doing the best thing…using what you have and making it work!
I'm thinking about getting sound equipment (just started playing for $). How do you like your Loudbox Performer? I have a friend who uses that as thier main equpment out gigging and it sounds great. I too am also looking at the 30M vs the Peavey LN1036.
Hey Jason, that was an amazing vid about your gig setup. Loved your laid back speech approach, absolutely friendly. Overall just a warm friendly talk. Here’s a comment that will surprise you a bit; I’m in pharmaceutical sales, prescription drugs… your last few minutes in the vid, you made a very unexpected and outstanding last piece of advice on what we call in sales « the added value ». You absolutely nailed it on the head. I loved it because it came from someone from outside Sales per se. Of course you have to sell yourself like we all do but you coined it so very nicely. Good job my friend. I’ve saved your vid to listen to that part again. Like i said, I’m in sales and I’m far from believing that most of my colleagues understands the concept of added value as you have said brilliantly said. ✌🏼By the way, i watched your vid because i have an interest in getting PA Sys gear for my acoustic guitar. Nice playing by the way.
Dude, thank you for that comment....much appreciated! Yeah, sales in general can be a challenge but we've both learned that giving the value up front is one of the better approaches!
Thanks Jason for such a comprehensive and thorough talk about the evolve system. Been thinking about the Bose l1 16 or evolve 50 for open mike events I hold and I think you've sold me on the later .I want to be able to sit and control the mucisians from the front on my phone/ ipad and it looks like it's all doable without the separate mixer needed with the bose. Cheers man and great performances
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Yeah, the Evolve 50M is perfect for open mics...I actually host open mic twice a month a local brewery and use it for that. I can walk around and sit in the back and control everything from there.
I love my 50m, I have two which is overkill, but I play a lot of outside gigs, and they can really CARRY! I tried the Bose Pro32s, and were not nearly as good. Great oversight on your equipment and workflow. It has helped me out.
Thank you and yes, I'm loving this system! I just posted another video featuring it with a monitor (though you really don't need one, I do go over some different scenarios): czcams.com/video/gBEEwjMt0CE/video.html
How was the Bose inferior to the EV?
@@madness8556 dollar for dollar, I didn’t enjoy the Pro32. You would need to towers and two sub ones or sub twos. It just wasn’t efficient.
The sound I was getting from the Bose 32, wasnt as full as 50m.
Plus your real estate you take up is predominantly more. I also didn’t care for the Bose sound mixer. For channels for $900 sound mixer, not very cost-effective. I love all my other Bose equipment, but I appreciate the 50m more.
I got mine a month ago…. It made a world of difference!
It saves soooo much time for us and the quality is pretty awesome
Nice! Thanks Jason
So obviously the speakers are already powered and no need for amp?
Also we would be using this for our duo which we sing to backing tracks so I'm sure the computer could plug in somewhere?
The third question is: I see so many of these column pa's set up behind the artist, because of small space, how does that not feedback?
Been running the 30m in our acoustic duo. Setup is soooo easy. Love that no external mixer is necessary. Sound is top notch.
It's such a cool system! I'd like to to know if you guys are just plugging your mics and guitars directly into the EV and using their effects or using something external before going into the channel?
@@jasonstallworthI use tc helicon play acoustic pedal. I’ve gotten better results with it than I did a helix.
@@jasonstallworthI have the TC Helicon Duplicator, which is like a Mic Mechanic 2 but with a doubling effect instead of delay. But I plan on just running the microphones straight into my Evolve 30M this weekend. I think the TC stomp boxes are redundant with the Evolves because the evolve already gives you EQ, compression, and reverb. I find the TC’s doubling effect a little disorienting to hear while I’m trying to perform. And I’m on the fence with the pitch correction. Sometimes I think it gives a nice studio polish. And other times I think I sound better without it. I will say if you want to experiment with the TC pitch corrector, do not set it at the recommended 50% detent. That’s way too much and sounds wonky. Back it down to about 9-10 o’clock.
Can you ear your self good while performing? Because the PA is in front of you 🤔
@@saviodemartin62 I set up more like 45 degrees to the side of it. And I try to keep my mic (which is super cardioid) positioned so sound coming out of the speaker is hitting the side of the mic.
I don’t have any trouble hearing the PA this way. I have some cheap Xvive IEMs ready in the bag in case the room is extra noisy. But I haven’t really needed them yet.
Great video and great talk at the end about what you can give and not get.
Our last gig was a little too big and I was afraid our evolve 30m would not handle it all so I went back to two speakers on sticks. I once again realized how I have came to hate speaker stands and all the additional cabling for the most part! I ordered and just got in a second 30M. In hindsight a single 30m would have handled it. The second one would have been good insurance.
We still do some street fair and concert in the park type events and I'm still uncertain if two 50Ms would handle them. Going to keep our Yamaha DXR12mkiis for those large outdoor shows where we're expected to cover a lot of ground but who knows next year we may get one or two of the 50Ms as well.
I really like this Evolve M50 and have another video coming up where I used it at a larger open-space outdoor gig - that will be posted in a few days. And I think that two of these would work for most bands...maybe not a metal band, but more toned down
@@jasonstallworth I will check out your video. There is a band on CZcams I found called Salvage Title and it looks like they use two 50s and actually leave them on their transport carts to get them standing a little higher above the crowd. Looks like they're playing to a lot of people in their videos but maybe just not that deep. Seems to work great.
These type systems are designed to go BEHIND the performer so that you hear what your audience hears. I used the original Bose tower pa systems for many years and its great to hear exactly what you are putting out. To combat feedback I suggest the Audix OM-7 its the best feedback rejecting live vocals stage mic on the planet.
Since this video, I've used it in several different positions. All that said, these column systems are amazing and really help with set-up and tea down time and effort
@@jasonstallworth yeah hard to beat something you can pack away in a tiny car and go gig
Hey Jason, love the video. Suggestion, buy the rolling bag for the Evolve 50. It makes load in load out even easier.
I actually have a cart now! Yeah, that sub is kinda heavy!
Excellent! Sounds great, and you don’t have to worry about the comb filter effect of two stand speakers cancelling out frequencies further down the hall!
In both the electric over looped acoustic and the final acoustic over looped acoustic, it sounded like the loops were louder than the original guitar signal, at least a little. I don’t know if you can nudge down the loop output on the Ditto X4.
I think running both guitars through the Pod Go sounds like a great idea. Would you put one guitar on each side of the stereo inputs? And would you put the looper before the acoustic input on the PodGo or would you put it after the acoustic output and run it to the Evolve from there? I assume after, so you can have one patch for the loop sound, and then switch to a different patch to feed the acoustic solo on top.
I’ll have to find out what the Evolve foot switch does … whether you can set it to mute all channels except one vocal Mike without effects for announcements and then bring everything back with vocal reverb etc.
That's a great point about the cancelling of frequencies
Yes, I need to work with the loop levels. I normally use my POD Go for acoustic and I have another setting for lead acoustic that I switch to after I loop. I'll more than likely continue using that for guitar but the system acoustic setting does sound solid.
I still need to test the footswitch.
Thanks Jason. This seems better than the Bose lpro16. I found their to be a lack of mids
I’m really liking the Evolve!
Good video.
Thank you, I'm glad this helped!
Man, you have a wide voice range. After hearing you speak I was wondering how you would sing. Great singing!!!
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Hey Jason, Great video, I was wandering how it would sound with a keyboard, I mainly play soft jazz piano with pads and strings and was wondering the sound quality from it.
I think a keyboard would sound great through this system! The cool thing is you get more lows out of this system than you would a traditional PA speaker (unless you added a sub but that’s more gear to setup). And I really like how the sound is dispersed with the Evolve better than traditional speakers for solo shows
I use two EV ZLX-12BT, and I like it,
but it’s heavy to carry. I am thinking about to switch to a system like that. As a solo artist, I think only one EV-50M would work as I see in your video. I love your videos!
I’ve been using 2 of those ZLX’s for several years. Those are great speakers but the Evolve 50M sounds awesome and it cuts down on all the gear you have to setup and carry around. And yes, just one is sufficient
@@jasonstallworth Thanks for your reply ❤️
Considering getting back into giggling after 8yrs off. Maybe a duo/trio. I play keys and use to run a drum machine(alesis sr16) and sing, but may want to add a bass player and another vocalist as well. This seems like perfect setup honestly!
Yes, it's great for that and I encourage you to get back into it!
I've been using the 50M for a little over a year. Generally for fiddle, guitar, and a square dance caller, sometimes with an added banjo. It has been great, very easy setup and takedown. I used it in a gym that was actually 4 gyms with movable walls but they had completely open... I brought extra passive speakers, poles, and small powered mixer: ran the fiddle/guitar through the subwoofer & array with the calls mainly through the AUX to the secondary system. Everyone was expecting a muddy sound but to their surprise, it was clear as a bell. I plan on using a similar setup for problem rooms because I'm there to do a job, which is to make it memorable for the fun everyone had, not the troublesome sound system.
Very happy with this system - i recommend a cover on wheels for the subwoofer. Other than that, I agree 100% with everything you said.
Thank you for sharing that and the cover with wheels is a great idea!
@@jasonstallworth I also mix Django-style swing with guitar, fiddle, clarinet, and upright bass... A bit more complicated with some external, personal amps but the overall clarity still amazes me!
Sounds like an interesting system. The dealbreaker for me would be having to use a phone app, as I still use a windows phone and you can't get new apps for it. However it doesn't really matter as I don't play live.
The phone app isn’t required. You can adjust your settings on the actual system. I’m going to have more videos covering specifics like this.
Great video! How does the sound quality of the Evolve 50M compare to your old EV PA speakers?
Thank you. I need to do a side by side comparison soon! That’s going to be a lot of gear I have to bring for that video! 😂
@@jasonstallworth I am also interested in this… did you do a comparison test? what are your conclusions? tnx!
What kind of iPad mount are you using? I would enjoy seeing a video about your vertical gig sign. Good work!
I have a video on that and my setlist tips here: czcams.com/video/FImy9inrrMc/video.html
Great videos, Jason! You explain everything so well. One quick question...(and maybe I missed it)....did you go through the different "Modes" that you can set it to? Obviously, you have the "Live" mode set up for gigs. Do you change it to "Music" on breaks, to play background music? Also, what's the difference between the "Live" and "Club" modes? Thanks!
I meant to go through that! I keep mine on the same mode all of the time, which is live. I think the other modes are more for DJs
Thank you, Jason! I appreciate it......@@jasonstallworth
Thank you for this great video, Jason! One question, have you ever felt that a monitor would help you hear yourself better on stage? I know Behringer and Mackie make small powered monitors and was considering getting one so I can hear my dry vocal over the noisy environment...
Loft solo gigs, I’ve found I only need a monitor for certain venues. There’s a particular winery that I play at that’s always noisy so I bring a monitor for that one. And for venues that have their own house system, I always bring a monitor. But there are a couple venues where just the Evolve 50M is all I need (love those cause it’s less gear to set up!)
Jason Love your videos and Getting ready to get your Metal lesson😊 I have been looking at the 50M for weeks will it work with my Line6 Pod go ??? I want to run Bluetooth and backing tracks If you can help with this Thanks Bro
Thank you. Yes, I've been using my POD Go for my live solo shows for a few years now. And I just run it through one of the Evolve channels (just make sure that channel is flat). And bluetooth works perfectly on this system. I have it connected to my iPhone to play music between sets
Hi Jason. Thanks for the video. You play the 80's. I am older than you and I play 'That 70s Show' lol. You have a great baritone speaking voice and then have to go to your falsetto head voice for lyrics, just as I used to do. I found it weakened my vocals and strained my voice a bit, so I bought a baritone acoustic guitar tuned a perfect 4rth down from B to B. I now play my same songs with the same chord shapes and use my natural chest voice instead of trying to sing like a girl. (Think Eagles) You should try it. I bet you would sound great. Also, you could buy a digitech drop pedal for your electric to "capo" down to B for your electric leads. Thanks again.
Thank you. I’ve never used a capo for some reason. Instead, I transpose songs to fit my range, which I do a lot in C sharp minor and F sharp minor, and those keys also allow more open strings. That’s kind of created my sound for these shows.
I’m not sure where you heard me go falsetto but that’s not something I do at these gigs. Over the recent years (especially this year), I’ve learned to compress my voice so that I don’t strain. And it’s worked wonders as I never have a sore or hoarse voice after shows. Got a lot of that from Ken Tamplin’s warm up videos on CZcams
Great video Jason! 2 questions? Have you played a VST Piano through it? If so, how was the sound? Also, how does it sound using the EV in your studio room? Thank you.
Does anyone have problems with stray
rfi/distortion bleedinh into your ev50. Dirty power? Any comments appreciated
I’ve never played keys through it but would imagine it sounds great as my electric sounds good through it.
And I only use this for live shows.
If you were a solo artist, I think this is absolutely incredible. If you’re a band it’s not going to work because you’re not gonna be able to have enough input and I’ve noticed the product company are trying to push that you can buy two of these and you’ll get eight channels, but that’s still not gonna be enough if you need to make up your drums so anyone in a band stay away from it. Any cello artist yet it’s probably the best thing to get
Yes they work great for solo gigs and even duos and trios. I do have a friend that uses 2 with her band. I’m not sure if they use an external soundboard, which I do that often because I prefer the board and knobs over the app. And I’ll just run that into one channel
@@jasonstallworth hey Jason thanks for the review can I ask have you ever compared this with the Bose system? I’m used to that 180° coverage and that’s the only thing holding me back on the evolve. Any thoughts?
Turen the column slightly towards yourself and you should be covered just the same.
Hey Jason - really appreciate how you went through your process & setup tips! I'm a bassist/guitarist getting back to gigs and have a 4-player band getting ready to gig. Would just one of these or the 30M model be sufficient for live performance? If so, how would you recommend setting up the unit alongside amps & drums? Thanks!
I think you'd want two systems like that for a full band. I'd also recommend running everything through a separate soundboard with more channels. And then run the outs into the two channels of the EV if you're panning things like the drums.
I actually use a separate soundboard now, it just makes it easier with knobs. I have an updated video on my setup here: czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.html
thank you@@jasonstallworth! I can understand how it is useful to have physical hardware. I may just end up going with point-source speakers again since bands typically need more power.
Hi Jason, thanks for these amazing insights. How can I connect an external mixer to this system? Since it only has one aux output, that pretty much limits the scope of monitoring for a small band of three. Would the external mixer main output go in one of the channels on the ev50? Thanks :)
I actually use mine with a mixer now most of the time. And yes, you just run a cable from the out of your soundboard into one of the EV channels (and I’ll run the aux from the EV to my monitor, or I’ll use the 2nd out from the board to my monitor - I think that’s how I did it in this video).
I’ve gotten to where I don’t even use a monitor half the time. You have to play around with the placement
I would love to see a video with a Yamaha keyboard going through this system. Do you really get a stereo sound?
You'd have to use 2 channels for a stereo sound, I believe. I don't have a keyboardist but would be cool ot jam with one
Great video by the way. Would two 30's sound better AND give more volume? Two would also give you insurance in case one failed. I also feel a floor monitor is essential for our gigs.
Two 30Ms would be perfect for almost any scenario. And I also like the thought of having one as a backup.
@@jasonstallworth Been using Mackie SRM 450’s mk1’s for the last 20 years. Two main speakers and one for floor Monitor. Great sound but getting heavier each year. Looking for something lighter and easier to set up. But will the EV stuff do the job?
I guess that delay in answering means probably not. Ok.
Hi Jason I already have a Mackie mixer do you know if the ev50 will take a separate mixer ? Secondly is it powerful enough for medium size indoor and outdoor gigs approx 100-150 people . I currently have a fishman sa220 but it’s no longer powerful enough . Is the ev a good sound with both acoustic and electric guitar ?
Oh yes, that's primarily how I use mine. Here's a rundown of that (and using my electric): czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.html
Thanks for the heads up. Good stuff. I’m concerned about the phantom power not being 48v. Is it enough to power 2 condenser mics?
I’ve never used condenser mics live; only in the studio. But I think it may be best to use a DI for those
@@jasonstallworth I got ya. I was thinking like a couple of beta 87s.
Anyone else able to chime in on this question?
@@kevinchurch4649 I have a pair of the Beta 87a mics and just ordered the EV30m system which only has 15v phantom power. I have not got my system yet, but I have done some homework and what I read is the small diaphragm condenser mics like the beta 87a will be fine with 15V, but a large diaphram mic might require the full 48V. I know I can run my beta 87a through my fishman performer which has 24v phantom and it works fine. So I am hoping to not have issues and have to buy a separate box to supply phantom power. I really like the 87a mic for live sound, never a feedback problem and so crisp. Not sure why they cannot give us full 48v like most condenser mics require??? I believe the phantom power is on 100% of time on this system??
I just bought the EV ZLX-G2 8 inch powered speaker, and it has that DSP function. I'm using it for the first time tomorrow. BUT I'm gonna use a Mackie ProFX10 mixer, so I want to try to "Disable" that DSP on the speaker since it's redundant, and also dont want to overpower anything.
You’ll like the Mackie going through one EV channel. That’s how I use mine the majority of the time. And yeah, just turn off effects on that one channel
@@jasonstallworth Thanks Jason!
PS.....my first gig today, using both of these, went fine.....wow, what nice, clean sound through the Mackie. EV makes good stuff. You'll laugh at this...Many MOONS ago, I bought an EV 757 dynamic mic. I still have it, although the casing is starting to crack, so nothing some duct tape didn't fix! I used the 757....sounded fantastic. That mic has about a 20% better output than any of the known Shure vocal mics.
Hey noticed you’ve went to the Beta 58, u preferring it to the shure 58
Yes, I switched a couple years ago and like the Beta 58a much better. I’m also looking to try one of the Electric-Voice mics soon
Hi Jason is it just the front of house sound you're listening too for foldback or do the EV speakers project the sound to the sides and back at all? And could you set the system to the back of you for more "fold back" sound?
I wouldn't want it behind for potential feedback. But in front of off to the side, you can hear yourself okay...enough to not really need a monitor
@@jasonstallworth thank you for your reply 😀
You mentioned placing the Evolve in front of you to avoid feedback. Have you had feedback issues placing it behind you? I’m asking because I place my Harbinger line array behind me and rarely have feedback issues. Eliminates the need for a monitor. When I play with my band, we use the line arrays behind us and use as monitors. Wasn’t sure if the Evolve would function similarly.
I should have expanded on that. The Evolve 50M does eliminate feedback so you could technically have it behind you. I would just rather not take the chance, and I've talked to others playing through similar systems that always place it out in front.
This varies depending on venue, overal noise level, your own volume level and instruments, and experience with mic placement. It's also sorta conventional wisdom, and I agree with it, that on average the Bose sticks with their 180-deg. dispersion are the least feedback-prone because at any given volume it's throwing the sound over that wide spread instead of more of it straight into the mics and all that. That being said whatever you're doing with your Harbingers can almost certainly be done with the Evolves--I don't see a dispersion spec for yours but the 50/50m/30m have 120-deg dispersion which is very good. (I gig with a 30m and have gigged with a Bose L1M2, they're both great).
I should add, to expand on Jason's comment, that virtually every *really* loud band I've seen with Bose sticks places them out front.
This system looks very impressive, but I have a couple of questions: 1) Can every parameter within the mixer be adjusted from the panel, or is a mobile device essential? 2) Does the 50M store the last settings for eq and effects etc., even when it's powered off?
You can adjust on the unit so you don’t necessarily need the app. And the settings keeps whatever settings you have it at so they’ll be the same when you turn it back home (I believe you can also save presets)
On that note, I also sometimes use an external soundboard and run that through one 50M channel. I like the easy access to knobs like in this video: czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.htmlsi=g2eeqx1tHSmLPlvI
@@jasonstallworth Thanks for the comprehensive answer Jason. Your setup using the soundboard in the other video is my preference, but I'd really like to see a column system that had that small, analogue mixer (with reverb) included as part of the sub.
The Fiorelli website shows you playing Sat. 8 a.m. - 6:00 pm. That’s one long gig! LOL! Obviously a typo.
Sunday. Darn, was hoping to stop by, but coincidentally, I’ve got a gig 5:30-8:30 at The Cortez Clam Factory. Hope to catch your next one!
Oh wow, that’s a full day! Lol! Yeah, I’m there this Sunday from 1-5, and there every first Saturday of the month.
@Jason Stallworth - I have an issue with the AUX settings in the QuickSmart app: when I setup and connect, I lose the mixer interface functionality on the AUX screen. That is to say - I setup the system, plug in mics, set levels and proceed to use the app to adjust the AUX mix. I have a nice view all 8 channels and the MAIN with separate sliders for each. Now when I click on AUX in the bottom right, I get a view that only shows the AUX on the right having a slider: the other channels have names which I have assigned but nothing else. I can click on the names of individual channels and get basic eq, comp, and levels but those are applied to the MAIN mix. If I turn off the system and invoke DEMO mode, the AUX interface reappear and function as expected.
What did I do wrong? How do I fix this?
I found out how to restore that menu: when in the AUX view, click on the top to adjust those levels. On that screen, the lower right has a small type link for AUX VIEW. That opens a screen for toggling the view from MAIN to AUX. Hit AUX to return to the default view.
Man, I’ve never messed with the AUX levels. I only use it at one venue where I plug my system into theirs
Hi Jason - is the evolve 50m able to run phantom power? If so how is it setup in the settings! I havent been able to find an answer to this anywhere - thanks
I'm not sure if it has that option...I just use dynamic mics.
@@jasonstallworth Hah yeah I think it doesn't unfortunately. Got into a pickel last weekend because the venue was using these as their PA and my DI box for my acoustic guitar needs phantom power.
Hi Jason, just wanted to ask if you get much feedback from your EV50. I am playing in small bars in the west of Ireland and half way into the gig I start get feedback and popping . Can’t understand why it start about an hour in. I have a pedalboard and I have to start undoing them. Just wondering if you heard of anything like this? 👍🏽
Yeah, I've had a couple of occasions where I had feedback but never any popping. The further you can be away from the system, the better. Or if you can have the system in front of you and be standing behind it, that works really well.
I typically have mine in front of me, off to the side.
Also, a soundhole cover can help on your acoustic or if you have a notch filter on your acoustic or a pedal, you can adjust that to help with feedback
Thanks For the information Jason. Sound hole cover I just got for the guitar helped a lot. Also playing out over Christmas I turned down the volume off the EV 50 and was able to turn it up on the mixer and that stopped it for me as I had to play in a very was bar the other night and had no problems, thanks again.
Im learning about PA. I was wondering, whats the difference between a AMP and a PA? mote effects on PA?
I suggest doing some research on all of that
I’ve been debating this vs the 30M. I mainly play outdoors and really want just one speaker to do one trip. Would you say the 50 throws better and such?
By the way, just noticed you’re playing the Bradenton area. I am too! I play drums and harmonica with Doug Deming and the Jewel Tones and I do solo gigs doing amplified harmonica and guitar through the pa. You do similar sizes gigs as me so I think this is perfect as you could elaborate to the 30 vs 50 scenario. In my mind the 50M seems like it would throw better outdoors?
I would go ahead and get the 50M. It's better to have more head room and this way you'll have it for those larger and outdoor shows
@@jasonstallworth smart! Hope to catch you sometime. I see you play a winery in the outskirts of Bradenton. Didn’t even know that was there!!!
If you plan on only using one of these then the 50M will have more headroom and a fuller sound with more low end. However to be completely honest, the 50M doesn't sound twice as good as a 30M and I compared both before opting for a pair of Evolve 30Ms. The smaller 30M is quite a bit lighter and more compact than the 50M and much cheaper! You can almost buy a pair of Evolve 30Ms for the price of a single 50M and run in stereo for a bigger sound for larger gigs. A pair of 50Ms would be great for a full band thanks to the Ethernet connection allowing a pair of 50Ms to function as a larger single PA with double the inputs being run from a single app. The smaller 30M doesn't have the Ethernet connection. IMHO if you don't plan on doing larger gigs, save your money and get the Evolve 30M. If you plan on doing larger gigs then get the bigger Evolve 50M.
@@madness8556 I landed up getting the 50. Although I’d prefer the size I truly felt the 30 just sounded so much smaller.
I run a 30m and use it for outside/inside gigs. I like it but I’ve been thinking of buying a 2nd one for more volume.
Would it work with 2 Vocals and 3 instruments????? I only see 4 actual imputs for mics and instruments ...
I often connect a soundboard and run that through one channel. Here's a recent setup: czcams.com/video/SQeax1LuFCg/video.html
If you were to run a monitor does it get its own mix? Or is it just the mix the mains get?
Since it's just me, I'm ok with the main mix. I think you may be able to have a different mix in the monitor but not certain
Are this strong enough for two guitars, a bass guitar, and two vocals?😮
I believe you’d want two of these for that. I know someone who uses 2 with her full band
Will a powered monitor work well with this system? Thank you in advance.
Yes I actually use a powered EV monitor with mine at certain shows. Here’s an example: czcams.com/video/gBEEwjMt0CE/video.htmlsi=XCbwhaMUDTW49yO2
Hi Jason Im running a boss gt 1000 through my ev. The dirt is just not coming over well?!?!? Any tips ? Thanks
The only thing I can think of is make sure the channel you're using on the 50M is flat and not a preset, and make sure all effects and EQ are at 0. After that, you may need to adjust the level on the Boss as it may be clipping
@@jasonstallworth thank you Jason. I’ll give it a try. I really appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Ever consider IEMs? How easily would they work with the PA?
I’ve definitely considered that.
The IEM are more hassle than what they’re worth. EQ your set up properly and have the speakers just a bit infront of u turn a bit to the middle and u don’t need monitor especially IEM which were designed for Arena shows, not acoustic gigs 😂😂
@@craigmcgill4612 yeah for solo gigs, I barely even need a monitor. I’m only using that for certain venues that have larger stages where I may be spread out a little more
@@jasonstallworth my gigs consist of Live vocals, Electric guitar / acoustic and backing tracks. The tracks have the bare minimum but they open up so much more opportunity for places to gigs and more money. My fear was “I will need a monitor” if a turn to a gig with no monitor I won’t hear myself it’ll be too scary just using the front of house speakers and a couldn’t of been more wrong. Chasing a monitor cause more problems than it solved as it was an endless battle being happy with my sound and also the sound out front. A can go pretty loud and a don’t sweat anymore because I go my setup EQd properly so everything cuts through the mix nicely. My advice would be get your sound right and have your desk next to so u can adjust volumes but more importantly EQ your effects from song to song. Digital desk 100% … am using the Boss t4s and it’s a fantastic bit of kit. All the features and effects very usable effects 👍🎸🎤✨
@@craigmcgill4612 seen plenty of folks using IEMs at acoustic gigs. Especially at noisy venues.
interesting your not using the hi hz for guitar
I believe the acoustic preset on this system is set up appropriately for acoustic. And most of the time I'm using external effects or a acoustic DI
Assuming the acoustic has its own onboard preamp, it’s already low impedance and doesn’t need the hi-z input. His electric guitar is being processed by the Pod Go, so it’s no longer hi-z, either. The hi-z input would be for a passive guitar going straight in without prior processing.
The EV 30-50M sound muddy in the mid’s and highs compared to the Bose L1 Pro series. I know owned both.
The build quality is better on the EV. But certainly not the sound.
I've been running my Mackie soundboard through one channel and the Mackie preamps seem to be a little better: czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.html
Can these systems be linked with an In-house independant sound system in larger venues? The venue has to xlr right and left inputs. What is best way to connect?
Yes! I actually link it at this venue I’m showcasing the system. You’ll just run an XLR from the EV to one of three house inputs
@jasonstallworth thank you for your reply. When I tried that it did not seem to come through. I need to try again and look through the app... Something must be wrong in my settings
Damn. I could never afford that.
You can. It’s a matter if f replacing ‘I could never afford that’ with ‘how can I afford that.’
Then you make a plan and take action
im either going deaf, or you turned the mrs mic right down?
Lol, her mic setting are the same as mine, she doesn’t like to project and she sings the same octave as I so it blends
@@jasonstallworth she's there to make sure no other women make advances to you. the singing is just cover ;)
@@stuartpaul9211 😂
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Theres no way you get the same sound or sound quality from that evolve as two speakers and a monitor. I realize you're being sponsored by EV but this isnt a cheap system and if artists watching this think they can replace a complete sound system with an EV 50 they will be very disappointed and out a good chunk of change.
Im not saying you cant so a small acoustic gig with one but youre not going to get the same sound from this as a pair of 15" speakers and a monitor. And the last clip where youre playing and you can hear all the background noise (ppl talking) as loudly as the music demonstrates its not really filling the room with sound.
First of all, this video is specific to solo gigs, not full bands.
If you're a rock or metal band, yes, I'd recommend using an appropriate PA.
Also, I was using the EV ZLX powered 12s for about 3 years before getting the Evolve 50M (those were unsponsored).
It just didn't make sense to set all of that up for a solo gig, which is why I reached out to EV to see if they'd be interested in working up a sponsorship for the Evolve.
My Bose sounds better without the mike mechanic 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I actually stopped using those pedals a few months ago. Latest gear: czcams.com/video/8ljF5v5Pcp8/video.htmlsi=7JMzEmQck3jHM1l1