Free Speech, Comedy, and Woke Culture | Konstantin Kisin

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2020
  • Please note that this conversation was recorded in 2019 before the COVID-19 crisis.
    Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British comedian, podcaster, writer and social
    commentator. He made international headlines in 2018 by refusing to sign a
    university “behavioural agreement form” which banned jokes about religion,
    atheism and insisted that all humour must be “respectful and kind.”
    He is also the creator and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry CZcams show.
    He and John have much to discuss, including the attacks on free speech we see throughout the Western democracies today.
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Komentáře • 991

  • @cyclist68
    @cyclist68 Před 2 lety +161

    Notice how as a white, British, Christian nation we are constantly judged by the worst actions of our ancestors, whilst being told that all others. including ethnic minorities living here can't be judged by the worst actions of their contemporaries.

    • @chriscunningham8807
      @chriscunningham8807 Před rokem +7

      PC lunacy reigns supreme.

    • @natalievu4399
      @natalievu4399 Před rokem +7

      I'm half British & half Vietnamese & I grew up in the 80's
      Back then, my very leftist teachers would treat all immigrant kids different- better.
      I was always in the middle.

    • @bradleyboyer9979
      @bradleyboyer9979 Před rokem +5

      And we can't even be sure they were our actual ancestors. Who knows... My or your ancestors might have been peasants in distant lands who had nothing to do with past "sins."

    • @superdragons111andwolfgame7
      @superdragons111andwolfgame7 Před rokem +3

      My new mantra is WOKE IS WRONG

    • @debbiedeering7998
      @debbiedeering7998 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@superdragons111andwolfgame7That's because you're listening to people who don't know what woke is. You have a bunch of not very smart people making it a dirty buzzword instead of having any idea what it really is.

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979 Před 4 lety +421

    What he said about his parents using their life savings to move to a free speech country, and then the threats to free speech the UK now faces, was actually quite emotional to listen to. I like this guy.

    • @stacypastry2440
      @stacypastry2440 Před 2 lety +10

      You should watch the 2 part series "the truth about triggernometry" he goes in to what happened to his family in the USSR.

    • @spaztor7723
      @spaztor7723 Před rokem

      like likem likem?

    • @USMC6976
      @USMC6976 Před rokem +8

      They didn't move, they sent him. It was even a bigger sacrifice because they put their lives on the line as well.

    • @BethHutch-pg5yi
      @BethHutch-pg5yi Před rokem +6

      the same is happening in the USA

    • @inesxenia
      @inesxenia Před rokem

      What a load of BS! People can talk all they want and say what they want. But in truth the majority of people who emigrated from USSR did this in hopes to have more money and more shiny things and didn't give a rat's arse about some "freedom". But of course you don't just go around saying to people "I am a greedy motherf..ker and I want be rich and have nice house and sh..t". So you say: "Oh, I want freedom, yeah!" Hypocrisy of the West (and some b..tches from USSR greedy for money) is the main Western "value".

  • @Catina28
    @Catina28 Před 4 lety +212

    Konstantin.. Ure a very educated individual. As a blk person from Jamaica, I had realised that brit blacks appear to be primed to see discrimination. I have had exp with my partner, who is mixed, but somehow he sees discrimination in instances that I cannot see. Then I get told that this has happened to me and it's like I'm silly not to have noticed it.. But I don't notice it as I'm not looking for it and so don't know wat 'it' is. I was never taught to look for 'it'and that is the difference I have seen between me and others. Where there are instances of overt discrimination however I can see it in a heartbeat and usually so can everyone else.

    • @grumpybear5410
      @grumpybear5410 Před 4 lety +31

      If you are indoctrinated to se the devil in every corner, you will se the devil everywhere.

    • @sdrawkcabUK
      @sdrawkcabUK Před 3 lety +18

      Jamaica's motto is 'Out of many, one people' . Whereas now in Britain we have adopted the unofficial slogan 'out of many, many people'. Social breakdown and division are the result.

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety +12

      @@sdrawkcabUK same here in the US

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety +15

      Catina: it’s the same here in the US. The West Indians are so cool & nice (easy to deal with and productive) whereas so many of the mainland US blacks have chips on their shoulders (so angry and stubbornly uncooperative) that make it impossible to deal with them. Others are my friends and/or people I’ve enjoyed working with but the urban black culture here is terrible and teaches bad attitudes. (Many of them sorely resent the success and mellow self-confidence of the islanders and the fact that whites have no problem with islanders even though they are at least as black as our mainland blacks. And I doubt they know that slavery was many times more brutal in the West Indies than here.) I think that one element is that the women of the West Indies seem to be treated better by their men, although I am just guessing. What to do?

    • @lauraanderson5407
      @lauraanderson5407 Před rokem +6

      You are correct. As they say , if you are a hammer, everything you see is a nail.

  • @almor2445
    @almor2445 Před 4 lety +236

    This is one of those gems of an interview it's possible to find on you tube. It's brilliant.

    • @robertsmuggles6871
      @robertsmuggles6871 Před 2 lety +3

      The section on 'honest conversation' and authenticity is superb. He explains Trumpism better than anyone. Trump was just being himself in a political bubble where everyone else was 'faking it' - Hillary being the ultimate fake.

  • @maulwurfchenfischerartists
    @maulwurfchenfischerartists Před 4 lety +360

    I always love John Anderson's Interviews but here the dynamics were particularly beautiful:
    The gravitas of the older, wise conservative vs the edge of the young, daring comedian, but both equally sincere.
    THIS is how public discourse between people of different age, origin, views and temperament would be in an ideal world.

    • @craggerrs
      @craggerrs Před 4 lety +3

      This 'comedian' is far from 'daring' or 'sincere', I'm afraid

    • @Kalus_Saxon
      @Kalus_Saxon Před 4 lety +5

      In an ideal world we wouldn’t have the head of police as a leso called caress a dick..
      Or a Russian that claims to be british along with a 4x2.
      This is like living in a bad bond movie where someone like abbot is the super villain but completely inept and surrounded by low iq henchmen..

    • @damian.gamlath
      @damian.gamlath Před 3 lety +6

      @@craggerrs you're rightly afraid..

    • @donaldhysa4836
      @donaldhysa4836 Před 3 lety +1

      @@craggerrs What makes you say that?

    • @sharonalbanese8084
      @sharonalbanese8084 Před 3 lety +1

      completely agree, well said.

  • @kamiltrzebiatowski3745
    @kamiltrzebiatowski3745 Před 4 lety +185

    Fantastic interview. I completely agree with forgiveness disappearing from society. I see it practically every day and is also a reason why I've recently left social media.

    • @girlwriteswhat
      @girlwriteswhat Před 4 lety +14

      I was recently permanently banned from twitter for tweeting "are you retarded?" and "stop being retarded".
      The person who got me banned bragged on twitter about how he scrolls through the feeds of people whose politics he doesn't like explicitly to find things that are reportable, and he got permanently banned for abusing the report button.
      Honestly, I could murder someone, do my time and twitter would allow me to have an account. But using the word "retard" is worthy of permanent exile from twitter.

    • @mancubusjam
      @mancubusjam Před 3 lety +1

      @@girlwriteswhat 2 months late, but I really wanted to show you this related clip.
      czcams.com/video/eOBoKxEcVAA/video.html

    • @Anten7
      @Anten7 Před rokem +2

      It's not up to the perpetrator of a crime to decide when his victim should forgive him - especially if the perpetrator has never been brought to justice for his crimes.

    • @garypautard1069
      @garypautard1069 Před rokem +1

      I would like to add an extra view on Andersons words about humility. He says that people feel comfortable mixing with people who practice humility but I have found if you come up against the conceited Gen Z or Millenium people being polite and not shouting your views is seen as weakness and you will be treated with contempt. It seems also that many people gravitate to towards the most pushy and loud persons for leadership.

    • @zeldagoblin
      @zeldagoblin Před rokem

      The Taliban kept their account. Jordan Peterson was banned.

  • @alanchadwick2646
    @alanchadwick2646 Před 4 lety +120

    So true about Cathy Newman , I can never take her seriously after Jordan pulled her to pieces . Never watched her since

    • @Maelli535
      @Maelli535 Před 4 lety +10

      She's not watchable, even her visuals are dismal!

    • @Nick_fb
      @Nick_fb Před 3 lety

      In a few years Cathy will come out of it looking good. That experience takes a while to pay off.

    • @Kapitalist88
      @Kapitalist88 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Nick_fb Haha, dream on buddy. She's rekt vor eternity.

    • @felixmerz6229
      @felixmerz6229 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Nick_fb So you're saying her career is over?

    • @evelynvanzale4757
      @evelynvanzale4757 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Nick_fb - No, she really won't!!! If and when the world recovers its equilibrium with common sense and logic restored, she will look a great deal worse!!!

  • @andyscouse4090
    @andyscouse4090 Před rokem +15

    As a British man i can now see that George Orwell was right when he said "in times of Universal lies and deceit telling the truth will be seen as a Revolutionary act". So Britain is becoming like 1984 the book by George Orwell, and the Bible book of Revelation is a good guide for those still asleep.🇬🇧

  • @scottya1967
    @scottya1967 Před 4 lety +99

    Two of my favorite level headed thinkers conversing without prideful posturing. CZcams will have to cancel this for sure.

    • @jasonshields515
      @jasonshields515 Před 4 lety +1

      scott allan
      I like John for sure . But Kisin?
      I’m surprised he made it to a favorite list . But to each his own I suppose 👍

    • @MartinWillett
      @MartinWillett Před 4 lety

      Not at all, they are actively promoting it, he represents the acceptable non-racist face and not at all right-wing of the extreme right. He's very much their favourite kind of right-winger, and not just because of his so-called (((Russian-British))) ethnicity. If you watch a video from the naughty list CZcams will serve up something like this, Douglas pretty-boy Murray or Jordan bloody Peterson every time as the next video which will autoplay if you're not quick enough to stop it.

    • @scottya1967
      @scottya1967 Před 4 lety +8

      @@MartinWillett I don't know what is going on in your life that the best advocates for better society you appear to dislike. Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray, John Anderson, Konstantin Kisin, the four best white journalists I can think of. What do you think about Candace Owens, Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell?

    • @MartinWillett
      @MartinWillett Před 4 lety +2

      @@scottya1967 What is going on is that CZcams are deciding for me that I want to see kosher approved "radical thinkers" when I have just been watching something they don't want anybody to see. I would be gobsmacked if this gatekeeper content was being selected for normies to view unless they made an effort to find it. No. This stuff is prescribed like methadone to people who have already been using the real stuff.

    • @trainerdisability
      @trainerdisability Před 3 lety +1

      scott don’t forget Sam Harris. Another amazing speaker and writer on this topic
      I would include Andrew Doyle as well

  • @justinmorris419
    @justinmorris419 Před rokem +27

    In my 40's I have been, by choice, ignorant of any goings on in the world for the very reason these two talk about. I'm hooked on the authenticity and honest speech, I forgot what that sounded like! Thank you!

    • @FiveBlackFootedFerrets
      @FiveBlackFootedFerrets Před rokem +2

      I could have written the exact same comment with the exception that I'm almost 70. It's very troubling to say the least. I hope we find a way out of this mess because if we don't it will destroy us.

    • @go2therock
      @go2therock Před rokem +1

      ​@robertmailander2493 but the fact that you have broken free inspires us. 🌟

    • @user-ff6hh9mc8j
      @user-ff6hh9mc8j Před rokem

      I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its a part of russian propaganda. Check facts, please.

  • @Myway953
    @Myway953 Před 4 lety +104

    This is the best video you have made so far.
    That young man spoke honestly, positively about the world
    As it really is.
    When we have a religion growing in this country based on dislike of the
    People and the country .
    And our politicians, judiciary , police , media all talking
    from the same script .
    Trouble is on it,s way fast.

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety +2

      This is excellent but I’ve seen many others with John every bit as good-so please watch more and you will be pleasantly surprised.

    • @jumblestiltskin1365
      @jumblestiltskin1365 Před rokem +4

      Watch his interviews with Douglas Murray

    • @vidhushekhar17
      @vidhushekhar17 Před rokem

      By 'we have a religion growing in this country...' I suppose you mean I-slam. I'm an Indian-in India. I wonder why BBC feeds and nourishes the narratives of this religion of hate; whereas portraying Hindus (perhaps because they are in MAJORITY) as the real villains and wicked people trying to get rid of all the Muslims in India?

  • @franklyle8767
    @franklyle8767 Před 4 lety +48

    Thanks John for feeding our minds with some nourishing food.

  • @thanksfernuthin
    @thanksfernuthin Před 4 lety +56

    Great interview! I've seen him interview others and the few times he's been a guest on talk shows. But seeing him being interviewed really drives home how much he's thought about these critical subjects.

    • @ChristopherGoggans
      @ChristopherGoggans Před 4 lety +4

      @@thegentleman4873 serious question, are you sure it's Triggernometry that's deleting the comments themselves and not some CZcams algorithm or moderator?
      Second, assuming that they are deleting the comments themselves, is it possible that Triggernometry removed the comment as an effort to deal with the constantly changing community guidelines? CZcams has explicitly stated that channels can get demonetized and penalized for comments made by third parties on their videos.
      If they are truly deleting comments that they disagree with but aren't otherwise objectionable, then I dislike their choice and disagree with their choice.

  • @edmendes7022
    @edmendes7022 Před 4 lety +24

    Without forgiveness and redemption, we have only paralysis and fear.

  • @joannamoore4477
    @joannamoore4477 Před 4 lety +55

    I watched konstine and thought him funny , but the more i found out about him , the more impressed i was with his intellect

    • @fainitesbarley2245
      @fainitesbarley2245 Před 4 lety +5

      Yes he’s a very very clever man.
      I quite often watch Triggernometry’ and his friend doing his best to keep up!

    • @cyranodebergerac6587
      @cyranodebergerac6587 Před 4 lety +1

      Maybe read a little more. You may still agree with him but he upset the internet a few months ago.

    • @fainitesbarley2245
      @fainitesbarley2245 Před 4 lety +4

      John Colman
      I don’t really care if he ‘upset the internet’ whatever that means and I don’t feel the need to only listen to people I agree with.
      For example I always find the Duran interesting but that doesn’t blind me to the obvious fact that they are madly pro-Russian. Similarly I listen to the Grayzone but am not a ‘progressive’. Same for Jimmy Dore and Jamarl Thomas.

    • @TheSuperQuail
      @TheSuperQuail Před 4 lety +2

      I think what John Colman is referring to is that KK pissed off extremists by not kowtowing to their demands. They've since moved on.

  • @drakevaliance3536
    @drakevaliance3536 Před 4 lety +21

    What an intelligent man this konstantin kisin. I’m very impressed. He has to be gifted if not an genius.

  • @twentyrothmans7308
    @twentyrothmans7308 Před 4 lety +39

    Thank you, John, for these compelling conversations. I always look forward to them.

  • @catscan2022
    @catscan2022 Před 4 lety +31

    "I dont think any discrimination can be positive" 👏👏
    The power and status of victimhood. The world has turned on its head

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety +5

      Actually the ability and willingness to discriminate is what makes it possible to have values. Discrimination is just another word whose meaning has been twisted and lost.

    • @catscan2022
      @catscan2022 Před 3 lety +1

      @@patriciakimball8150 good point. Yes it has a different meaning altogether now and is often seen in negative terms, as being anti as opposed to pro something. I guess that's the idea of prefacing it with the positive but either way it isn't equality as it's claimed to be

    • @zeldagoblin
      @zeldagoblin Před rokem

      Dr Peterson says a similar thing about hierarchies.

    • @catscan2022
      @catscan2022 Před rokem

      @@zeldagoblin doesnt he say that hierarchies are natural?
      Given that discrimination is part of the human conditon, I guess all positive discrimination does is replace the old boy network with one based on political correctness

  • @mikhailfranco
    @mikhailfranco Před 4 lety +18

    Konstantin is excellent.
    I had not heard of him before.
    Thanks for the conversation.

  • @rozpea9448
    @rozpea9448 Před 4 lety +24

    Nearly an Hour of pure common sense, absolutely riveting stuff 🥰 👏🏼👏🏼 thank you both x

  • @Wasabitheband1
    @Wasabitheband1 Před rokem +16

    Fantastic conversation between 2 well informed and thoughtful gentlemen. Thank you both

  • @getknit8334
    @getknit8334 Před 4 lety +79

    When Hillary Clinton referred to 'deplorables' as "irreedemable" I knew immediately she wasn't the Methodist she claims she is because she did not believe in 'forgiveness'........

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 4 lety +7

      She only believes in whatever's expedient and lines her pockets

    • @garyvlahos635
      @garyvlahos635 Před 4 lety +6

      I agree ----Hilary's refusal to practice 'forgiveness' was a betrayal of her supposed Methodist roots...
      Oh ! .. and let’s not forget the many assassinations of Clinton associates !!!
      Hillary’s murder streak was another dead give away too !

    • @basscataz
      @basscataz Před 4 lety

      You're wasting your energy. You're practically saying that the sun will rise.

    • @fainitesbarley2245
      @fainitesbarley2245 Před 4 lety +1

      “Irredeemable” as in can be ignored and preferably disposed of?

    • @tracykatrinaobrien6998
      @tracykatrinaobrien6998 Před 4 lety +2

      Exactly

  • @eveapple4928
    @eveapple4928 Před 3 lety +33

    Bloody love KK. He is developing his thought processes more and more, it’s great to be able to watch and learn

    • @user-ff6hh9mc8j
      @user-ff6hh9mc8j Před rokem

      I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its a part of russian propaganda. Please, check facts.

    • @georgegreig8054
      @georgegreig8054 Před 6 měsíci

      He's in the right wing mob now. Pals with the likes of Peterson, Murray, Musk etc

  • @nevbarnes1034
    @nevbarnes1034 Před 4 lety +140

    The people who suffer when a war ends are the arms dealers. The arms dealers of feminism were the academics who made their careers arguing for feminism, and although feminism achieved most of its goals by the early 80s, these academics have kept the war going. An entire industry exists finding new, ever more ridiculous and extreme grievances against men.

    • @martinliehs2513
      @martinliehs2513 Před 4 lety +19

      I like your analogy. It can be said that many activists are "the arms dealers" of wars that ended in a previous generation. Feminism, racism, homosexuality, even the environment and workplace safety are examples that come to mind.

    • @nevbarnes1034
      @nevbarnes1034 Před 4 lety +24

      There's a difference between an actual cause, and an ideology. People with an honest cause achieve their goals and then go home. Ideologues will keep going, because their identity has become tied to the ideological struggle. No matter how many legal rights are handed to feminists, the chest-beating victimology will continue and the demands will become more shrill and hysterical.

    • @girlwriteswhat
      @girlwriteswhat Před 4 lety +20

      There are a few (related, but subtly different) psychological phenomena at work here:
      1) belief perseverance. Once you have constructed a grand, unifying theory to explain the world and you truly believe it, you'll do everything you can to suppress disconfirming information. Ignaz Semmelweis was persecuted and his practice of hand-washing discontinued (at the cost of many lives over many years) because medicine at that time was based on the nervous excitation/four humours framework. If hand-washing prevented disease, there was just no way to integrate that reality into the existing model. It made no sense, so it had to go (and so did he, to a mental institution where, somewhat ironically, he soon died, likely of sepsis).
      2) sunken cost fallacy. Imagine you've made an amazing career based on a theory (let's say, feminism's "patriarchy" conjecture). That's a big investment of time, energy, thought, often money (women's studies ain't free, yo). Even if your commitment to the theory is fairly shallow, you'll still throw good money after bad to avoid admitting to yourself that your initial investment was a waste.
      3) "when in doubt, shout!" When someone has a deeply held belief and they're exposed to disconfirming evidence, if they can successfully defend the belief against that evidence they get a huge hit of dopamine. This simultaneously rewards the successful defence while motivating the person to proselytize their belief to others. Oh, and the vigor of the defence (and the hit of dopamine) is greater the stronger the disconfirming evidence is. So basically, once that belief is deeply held, it's not only hell to shift, but after experiencing and then defeating the doubt, the believer wants to convince as many others as they can that their belief is true.
      Over the course of 4 decades, we have witnessed within feminism a gradual (but very reluctant) integration of, say, male victims of intimate partner violence into their grand unifying theory of patriarchy. First, it was women don't hit men. Then, it was okay, women sometimes hit men, but only in self defence. Then, okay, women sometimes hit first, but that's preemptive self defence, or violent resistance against the oppressive patriarchal order. Then, well, okay, women sometimes hit for no good reason, but men are not as harmed by it because of physical differences and the surrounding sociopolitical context. If a man hits his wife, he's hitting her _because she is a woman._ If a woman hits her husband, she's not hitting him _because_ he is a man. Because of this sociopolitical context, domestic violence against women has broader societal implications for women as a group that don't exist in the reverse. Blah blah blah.
      See? Patriarchy hurts men too! But not as much as it hurts women. Anything to defend the validity of the grand unifying theory.

    • @MoonBurn13
      @MoonBurn13 Před 4 lety +2

      karen straughan Thanks visiting specialist (no irony).
      There is a subtler - I dunno meta? - level worth taking note of: for every POV, especially a deeply held belief, there exists its opposite, on the flip side of consciousness. Unfortunately, this polarity-flip is accessible much more easily in the individual than the ideological Institution; and even then, if, as you say above, Karen, the individual has made great, life-altering *sacrifices* for the conviction, it’s more deeply entrenched. I call it the “doublevée Syndrome” (from French, meaning “double-vee” which I render as “Vietnam Vet”: specifically those men who lost, say, a limb, or worse, in the War. They’ve got to justify it *somehow* right?
      (We ALL suffer from Doublevée Sydrome; the Vietnam Vet is just the archetype.)
      And then of course there are the usual whores just in it for the money.

    • @zenden6564
      @zenden6564 Před 4 lety +4

      @@girlwriteswhatthanks for that deep dive perspective KS. LYW.

  • @swithgk6538
    @swithgk6538 Před 4 lety +25

    What a fantastic interview - such clarity 👍👍

  • @josefstrauss4427
    @josefstrauss4427 Před 4 lety +19

    "Satire is angry and optimistic" -> 41:38 Brilliant!!!

  • @MissRaggsy
    @MissRaggsy Před rokem +6

    I've been delving into Triggernometry for a while now: this is impressive. Konstantin Kisin absolutely smashed it - a sparkling rising public intellect, totally nailed it yes mate. The kind of person you dream of arguing with!

  • @victoriapohlman7993
    @victoriapohlman7993 Před 4 lety +11

    Refreshing. Such a delight to hear two people talking with authenticity and humor!

  • @GarrettLoganGriffin
    @GarrettLoganGriffin Před rokem +13

    This was an absolute breath of fresh air. Respect to you, sirs.

    • @user-ff6hh9mc8j
      @user-ff6hh9mc8j Před rokem

      I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its part of russian propaganda. Please, check facts.

  • @tomylaw
    @tomylaw Před 4 lety +10

    His point of pigeonholing everyone who holds dear the idea of "free speech", as well as others, as right-wingers or conservatives (at the very best) is truly something I have been tackling with when discussing with other people. This guy (God bless you, Kisin) made me realize that I would even put me into political categories I wouldn't identify myself with just because other people were calling me that in the first place... Amazing interview, John! After this one, subscription guaranteed.

  • @billallen3696
    @billallen3696 Před 4 lety +14

    Hate to break it to you, pal, but you are a conservative and good on you. Conservatives are painted with the pejorative of right wing or worse merely as a MSM and leftist smear tactic. Conservatives are far less destructive than progressives or leftists and much less militant.
    But do remember that American slavery and white supremacy are only little stones in an historical quarry of slavery and supremacy extant in the UK and most every other society historically and some even nowadays, so the incessant reference the the misdeeds of America historically is tedious and only a kernel of the whole story.

  • @luisanderson518
    @luisanderson518 Před rokem +1

    I had never heard of Konstantin Kisin until last night when I saw his video about the woke culture and realized this is a person worth listening to. I am now commenting on this excellent interview, my second video with him. He said that freedom of speech and freedom of association are the fundamental principles of Western society. I would argue that the fundamental principle of Western society is not freedom of speech or association; rather the fundamental principle of Western society is the Judeo-Christian belief. Freedom of speech is a consequence of this belief; however, as a non-believer, he cannot accept this. Nevertheless, he is a very thoughtful person. He questions what would happen to our society if the notion of God ceased to exist. He points out very real possibilities. However, he need not be concerned about this, because God (not the notion of God) will never cease to exist.
    I’ll shorten what would be a long comment by finishing with the following quote from the second book of Timothy, Chapter 3, verses 1-5, “1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.” Note that the focus is in the last days. We’re not there yet, but we’re rapidly approaching it.
    I love Kisin’s idea of fighting back to validate our principles. Unfortunately, things will only get worse, and we will certainly almost self-destruct. I can’t say what will become of Western culture, but the Judeo-Christian culture will remain. A better world is coming.

  • @hitchslap8254
    @hitchslap8254 Před 4 lety +26

    Another great conversation, I trust Lionel Shriver is on your list!

  • @firestorm8570
    @firestorm8570 Před 3 lety +5

    Really enjoyed this. Never seen either Konstantin Kisin or John Anderson before. No chance of seeing anything like this in the mainstream media which is i suppose a way of isolating people with similar viewpoints. It's refreshing to see two people have a conversation about these topics in a calm manner rather than an argument which turns into the equivalent of chimps throwing crap at each other. I find myself as one of those people who doesn't speak out enough, who doesn't say what i think because it doesn't feel worth it when i think of all the hassle i would get back. Thankyou for this. It gives me the confidence to find my voice.

  • @JonathanRedden-wh6un
    @JonathanRedden-wh6un Před rokem +3

    Not only is free speech fundamental, the right to own property is also crucial.

  • @12hannah
    @12hannah Před 2 lety +6

    Breath of fresh air. Gives me hope. Thank you both.

  • @sara-thefree7783
    @sara-thefree7783 Před 4 lety +9

    Wow what beautiful conversations thank you John for bringing this to our attention!!! The humanity and the world needs conversations like these!!

  • @theodorenkwenti721
    @theodorenkwenti721 Před rokem +7

    This guy is such a breath of fresh air, my God, what an inspiring young mind!

  • @aosseily
    @aosseily Před 4 lety +8

    Massive respect with Konstanin. Again, the jesters are the most honest and insightful people in the kingdom.

  • @ballaservices9275
    @ballaservices9275 Před 2 lety +5

    One of the main problems we have is conservative leaders unwilling to even acknowledge, let alone engage, in the cultural wars. Here in Australia we have a PM that openly says he is not interested in any of 'it', which means he finds it of no real consequence.
    That's almost as dangerous as the war itself.

  • @crystalparker2542
    @crystalparker2542 Před rokem +3

    Wonderful interview. I'm an American, and i love this guy. I've heard him speak a few times, and just so much common sense.

  • @Bildi7v
    @Bildi7v Před 3 lety +5

    Such a great interview, one of the best I've seen, thank you both.

  • @andrewblake2254
    @andrewblake2254 Před 4 lety +15

    Excellent stuff, Konstantin. Thank you. You too John.

  • @RH-vq6gk
    @RH-vq6gk Před 4 lety +64

    Keep up the good work John Anderson, you're set to become Australia's premiere Intellectual Dark Web representative.

    • @Toropetskii
      @Toropetskii Před 4 lety +5

      There's nothing dark about it. This is all in the public domain, and all should be heard.

    • @RH-vq6gk
      @RH-vq6gk Před 4 lety +2

      @@Toropetskii That's just what it was called, By Eric Weinstein I believe.

    • @Toropetskii
      @Toropetskii Před 4 lety

      @@RH-vq6gk He's misusing an old label.

    • @patriciakimball8150
      @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety

      John is already premiere imho

  • @ArielBerdugo
    @ArielBerdugo Před 4 lety +17

    Relevant Brilliant.

  • @jladdyost
    @jladdyost Před 4 lety +15

    A correction: "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made." Groucho Marx. [not George Carlin, although he may have quoted Groucho]

  • @KEVINKEVINKEVINWWW
    @KEVINKEVINKEVINWWW Před rokem +2

    Please make more of these types of videos and promote them widely.

  • @exp10rer
    @exp10rer Před rokem +4

    Having seen this video, the speech of Konstantin in Oxford Union and some of his high profile interviews, I became fan of him. He is not a comedian, he is a true intellectual that puts comedy on some of his speeches.

  • @KevinSolway
    @KevinSolway Před 4 lety +9

    Good on you John Anderson. I remember you from decades ago. At the time I had the impression you were a person of character, and looking back, I think I was right.

  • @bettymaclennan1421
    @bettymaclennan1421 Před 4 lety +3

    So refreshing to listen to these gentlemen.If only there were more of them. Thank you

  • @phoneticau
    @phoneticau Před 4 lety +2

    @ John Anderson thanks for your CZcams channel, this just jogged my memory what is going on with The Ramsey center of western studies in Australia its needed more than ever.

  • @hughiemg2
    @hughiemg2 Před 4 lety +7

    Very interesting conversation, keep up the good work!

  • @Stellarheim
    @Stellarheim Před rokem +3

    15 years ago internet was a happier, much better place. Smart and vibrant. Just open it and be amazed... But Now I am genuinely surprised to find videos like this, that have clarity and are free from bullcrap. Feels like holiday every time. And puts things into perspective too.

  • @angusmaciver2407
    @angusmaciver2407 Před 3 lety +3

    Very interesting & revealing conversation. Quite a few angles on modern social and cultural norms I'd never really though of. Keep the good work up!

  • @robmcilroy1894
    @robmcilroy1894 Před 4 lety +6

    Thanks for a great interview 👍

  • @nusiadyk3718
    @nusiadyk3718 Před rokem +2

    Fascinating interview. Gives hope in a world that currently seems to have lost its moral compass; a world where value is placed upon insincere & superficial thinking. Definitely I'm going to follow Konstantin, so glad I stumbled upon this interview. Honesty, ability to admit mistakes, open- mindedness, not seeking self-aggrandisement, humility & forgiveness are vital.

  • @basscataz
    @basscataz Před 4 lety +25

    At 51:00.
    I can think of another religion that has no forgiveness or redemption. It starts with I and ends with slam.

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 Před 4 lety +1

      Religion is shite to keep us deluded.

    • @riteousrighthand6144
      @riteousrighthand6144 Před 4 lety

      To be fair, Christianity had the same kind of power, until the people rose above it.

    • @stevenborg102
      @stevenborg102 Před 3 lety

      Opiate of the masses eh

    • @donaldkeith139
      @donaldkeith139 Před 3 lety +1

      @@melvynobrien6193 surprisingly exactly what Solzhenitsyn thought before he realised that the interrogators in the 1930s and 1940s whatsoever had no power over truly God fearing men and women. Read Volume 1 of the Gulag Archipelago.

    • @truthnumb972
      @truthnumb972 Před 3 lety

      It's quite interesting you mentioned that particular religion have you read the books or spoken to anyone of that religion to come to that conclusion! Just genuinely curious

  • @jonts1776
    @jonts1776 Před 3 lety +3

    amazing conversation. Great minds and insights.

  • @lindalooloo2
    @lindalooloo2 Před rokem +1

    An gripping interview. Great to hear an intelligent, eloquent, insightful young man speaking his truth without the interviewer having a particular agenda. I've just started following both of you.

  • @yr8601
    @yr8601 Před 2 lety +2

    Great episode, thank you both so very much!

  • @winniewotsit4452
    @winniewotsit4452 Před 3 lety +4

    A really first class discussion - hats off to you both.

  • @philg7889
    @philg7889 Před 4 lety +4

    I very nearly turned this off before it got going. So glad I stuck with it. This guy speaks some serious truisms about modern society. The only time I disagreed with him was when he said, 'I think we've gone a bit far'. It's gone way too far. It's ridiculous. I was born in '62 and I can tell you, modern day society has lost the plot entirely.

  • @colorin81colorado
    @colorin81colorado Před rokem +2

    A inmensibly thoughtful interview! Thank you to you both gentleman! And cheers from those who still value sanity, here in Brisbane Australia

  • @jul4275
    @jul4275 Před rokem +2

    When I heard Konstantin on Glenn Beck ,I just knew I had to learn more about him . This interview was all and more that I expected ,thank you.

  • @voyd1507
    @voyd1507 Před rokem +3

    Great conversation. As always on this channel.

  • @cailancook9720
    @cailancook9720 Před 4 lety +15

    Great conversation. It's strange watching it with the perspective of what's currently unfolding around the world. It feels like, in many ways, these issues are being increasingly highlighted on the global stage. I've never seen so much national spirit amongst our communities. An ominous cloud looms above us now, all hands on deck to pull through.

  • @bdesruis
    @bdesruis Před rokem +2

    Thank you for this very intelligent and mature interview.

  • @danharrodian
    @danharrodian Před 4 lety +2

    What a great conversation. Liked & Subscribed.

  • @jladdyost
    @jladdyost Před 4 lety +8

    "...then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone, all centuries but this and every country but his own." W.S. Gilbert in The Mikado, 1885. This phenomenon was known in 1885, but was not the dominant attitude.

  • @Nick_fb
    @Nick_fb Před 3 lety +5

    This video has given me the opportunity to seriously consider forgiveness. Thank you!

  • @cathy8382
    @cathy8382 Před rokem +1

    A gem of an interview. Very nice topic of conversation. Intelligent discussion. 👏👏👏

  • @AlphaOmega0815
    @AlphaOmega0815 Před rokem +2

    An extraordinary opening already. Having lived in the former GDR it is all it takes to explain the "today's problem". Thanks Konstantin.

  • @whitneymacdonald4396
    @whitneymacdonald4396 Před rokem +4

    We need more thoughtful conversations like this. I would like to hear some counterpoints so I will look for conversations between Mr. Kisin and someone with a different perspective. It's unfortunate that conversations between people with differing opinions have to be framed as "debates." I think we need more conversations.

  • @welshhibby
    @welshhibby Před 4 lety +4

    Great interview 👏🏻

  • @patriciakimball8150
    @patriciakimball8150 Před 3 lety +2

    Oh, John, I just love you. And I certainly agree with you about loving wit and not humor that degrades (among many other things). 🙏🏼

  • @rosswalker3457
    @rosswalker3457 Před rokem +2

    Quality show John, thanks for your efforts 👌

  • @bulkington3272
    @bulkington3272 Před 2 lety +3

    Great talk! I'm a fan of Konstantin!

  • @noahschmartz2354
    @noahschmartz2354 Před 4 lety +4

    'freedom of speech is now a conservative value' , so well said, good man.

  • @musiclov3r8
    @musiclov3r8 Před 3 lety

    So glad I found this video. Brilliant!

  • @VV-sn3fh
    @VV-sn3fh Před rokem +2

    This interview is so rich that I need to see it for a second time. Well done.

  • @janetwhite7786
    @janetwhite7786 Před 4 lety +5

    My goodness, what a brilliant man!
    Around minute 36:00 - when that started was the day Mohammed Ali said he was "the greatest". I remember it as clearly as it was yesterday. Even as a child, i was so taken aback by that. It was totally NOT done. It was considered bad form to even know your own stats! One of the best things i've ever heard in an AA meeting is "Strive to be average".

  • @huntnorth5744
    @huntnorth5744 Před 4 lety +3

    Great interview guys shame this isn’t on prime time TV

  • @benjamaya5199
    @benjamaya5199 Před 3 lety +2

    This is the best education ever ! The art of intelligent discussion. Great insights and hope here.

  • @Gimli_syn_Gloinuv
    @Gimli_syn_Gloinuv Před 3 lety +2

    Really interesting discussion .. lots of things to consider and think about ... thank you for this

  • @massatube
    @massatube Před 4 lety +13

    This Quote
    "Judging a person does not define who they are. ...it defines who you are" Unknown
    To forgive is a tool to use, else the past is carried from one interaction into the next one. The burden of accumulated wrongs, those chains that bind the remembering, become entangled, then This "Today" is still bound to yesterday. Each day is new, yet not to forgive let's Today smell like The Old Yesterday.

  • @mattthompson486
    @mattthompson486 Před 3 lety +5

    Watching this in 2021 and the observations in this interview are all the more relevant now than they were at the time of filming.

  • @manawahinekorero9534
    @manawahinekorero9534 Před 4 lety +1

    Great interview. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jacquik6231
    @jacquik6231 Před 4 lety +1

    Great discussion - we need more of this - sensible discussion.

  • @ramitahable
    @ramitahable Před 3 lety +6

    Beautiful and heart-warming interview - thanks for doing this you both!

  • @karenielsen4713
    @karenielsen4713 Před rokem +6

    I am so happy I was born in the 80s. Got to experience the pinnacle of western society - late 90’s to mid 00’s. It’s all downhill from here 🙈 Also why I didn’t have kids. I will just try to enjoy the last few years/decades before the crash. Stay safe out there and good luck ❤

  • @dartharpy9404
    @dartharpy9404 Před 2 lety

    Watched it again and loved it, thanks 😊

  • @Buddfox
    @Buddfox Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks John and Konstantin, thought provoking interview

  • @michealbohmer2871
    @michealbohmer2871 Před 4 lety +3

    "Rubbery Figures" was the Australian version of "Spitting Image".

  • @DeeJay2715
    @DeeJay2715 Před 4 lety +3

    Great chat. Never thought about the link between lack of affordable housing & increased socialist feeling among younger people.

  • @dragonflydroneservices1021

    I wish I could like this twice… great convo

  • @brianwaite6139
    @brianwaite6139 Před rokem +2

    Very true about mainstream media, I stopped watching mainstream news a long time ago and pick & choose on Utube to get alternative views and a wider spectrum such as this excellent conversation. Much appreciated.

  • @becauseicount3483
    @becauseicount3483 Před 4 lety +7

    Low expectations kills all sense of ability & ambition & the time is ripe for conspiracy theories

  • @lostferwords5650
    @lostferwords5650 Před 4 lety +3

    its great to here Konstantin's point of view on the culture war, i didn't realize he was so pessimistic about the future

    • @craggerrs
      @craggerrs Před 4 lety

      He is a gatekeeper trying to seed hopelessness among the true resistance

  • @geofflee6477
    @geofflee6477 Před 4 lety +1

    Brilliant and fascinating interview 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @MilkShake
    @MilkShake Před 2 lety +1

    Great conversation! Perfect timing!