Hoshi may be goofy most of the time but he's very hard working and responsible when it comes to their performances, what he feels back then makes sense and thanks to DK being sensitive that he worked harder and gave more than his best survived among 20 trainees. DK is actually very passionate when it comes to singing as much as Hoshi being passionate with his dancing
dk is indeed sensitive, other members often said he really gets sulky or upset or offended because i think he recognizes his emotions which makes him really pure 😭🤍🫶🏻
He has the same MBTI and almost similar personality as mine so I can relate a lot. If somebody said to me, I'd cry too not because they said that but because I'd feel like I disappointed them by not putting in enough efforts. I think it has more to do with thinking that you're being an inconvenience than actually the words. He was very new too so he probably wasn't all that settled and still uncomfortable so hearing that must've been not welcoming. I did have a similar situation though not exactly the same but it made me cry too. It's also isn't Hoshi's fault because I see where he was coming from. I think that's why they don't really like to talk about their trainees days a lot.
@@jayennegiselle1836 I've been a fan of his for years now and I can actually see how sulky he can get sometimes and that worries me. His heart is just so fragile and with all these suicide in kpop, I'm so worried for him 😭
The other 2 leaders nodding their heads at hoshi last words 😂 , but really seventeen is a successful group and one of the reasons behind it is the 3 great leaders
Oh the leaders nodded when Hoshi was saying that this is all they had… really Hoshi scoups and Woozi I feel even back then had a lot on their shoulders from what I’ve read. And I get DK too. From what the members says, he’s the pondering type. So I get him feeling hurt back then~ tho it’s all good now hehe. As he said.
Wow hoshi was right tho if someone who didnt put as much or even close to the effort he put in future there is always a chance they would slack or so. He had all the tight to worry but I'm glad he sorted it out with dk even tho it seemed like a small thing. Im glad they succeeded!! Thry so deserved it
Exactly. It was do or die for him since I heard that his family was struggling financially at that time too so I do get why he wanted it all to be perfect. Their company didn't really have that much funds so if it somehow didn't work out then he really wouldn't have any chance. For them, every opportunity was very important. So I do get why he was so sensitive and short tempered at that time. I think DK too understood the position they were in and that's why they're so close. Plus they were all so young, barely adults and the amount of responsibilities they had to bear must've not been easy, no wonder they were all so sensitive at that time.
He's got a good head around his shoulders. He knows how a single member's performance will effect the whole group and he stood his ground that he does not want someone to negatively effect the group. I feel like this is something that most new groups lack :') They just working hard on their own without criticizing the others since they're not close friends just yet.. Unlike hoshi being that bold and strict to anyone. But look at where that brings them, nobody in Seventeen half-assing things. Hoshi truly deserve to be one of the top leaders :))
Hoshi has always shown a great sense of responsibility. To his family, his team and his fans. It shows. He gives 200% every time as if it’s the last time. That’s what makes him Hoshi. That’s what makes him stand out. My bias 🥰
Just want to bring up as well that Hoshi has addressed this two years ago before Dk brought it up on this show when he was on a diff variety talk show. Hoshi acknowledged he was harsh for saying those things like “we will fail bc of guys like you.”
Hoshi is one of the most hardworking Idol I've ever seen he is so passionate about his works it jus clearly shows back then his family had financial problem he took it upon himself to succeed and do something for his family I am proud of him he has come so far ❤
Seriously if I were in DOKYEOM'S PLACE it would have hurt like hell. But I think they would have cleared it out by the way Dk said it in a funny way. And hoshi literally has a heart of gold and if someone had to be in his (hoshi's place) they would have prolly misunderstood that people aren't trying their best too. I hope no one misunderstands this .SEVENTEEN ARE LIKE BROTHERS whatever misunderstanding they have they will clear it out. Hoshi and Deekay both are amazing people!
If you connect this statement to member's statement about Dk constantly practice singing, maybe this was the reason why Dokyeom is so eager to practice wherever he is, to the point that other members and other idols can have a complaint about hearing Kyeom's loud voice...
Yk when a group simply reaches a point when they release a song and you just know they'll ace the charts and win because they've achieved that credibility?! That is SVT now. They have achieved. They are there. At that peak. And I'm happy I get to witness it.
Hoshi is not just a performance team by name, but he really acts that role. He always make sure thay all members even him give their best on stage ❤❤❤ We stan 13 hardworking men who loves us dearly ❤❤❤
Finally the whole vid of this topiccc~ I've seen some people comment how harsh Hoshi's words were & misunderstanding him, without knowing the whole thing.
Understandable.. See how many groups are there and how competitive they are.. It was and is really serious when it come to talents of idols.. How many get criticized even when they have soo much talent to offer.. And having a hard time to bring up a group to debut in a company that's not rich.. They had enough and more concerns to deal with at a very sensitive young age... Many don't understand how hard the trainee life is for some idols..
Hoshi is not just my bias and bias wrecker for nothing he is also like a role model to me❤️ there is no doubt that he works so hard and is truly ambitious and passionate towards his works🐯🐯❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭❤️❤️ I love him so much❤️❤️ and same goes for all the members❤️❤️
TBH I feel like it was good Hoshi was like that it pushed ppl to do their best. And it seems a lot of the newer generation kpop idols r kinda disrespectful not saying they do it on purpose but they don't have the mindset. I think I saw a video where Heechul or someone said a lot of the new kpop idols don't even greet them or others
I think for them they didn't have any choice at that time. So they had to do what they did perfectly because they had no other means if it didn't work out. Like I heard they didn't have the money to afford in ears so they performed without it. People criticize the younger groups for performing badly without their in ears in encore performances and give the example of Seventeen but I would say the newer generation also don't have much of a fault. You adapt to the condition you're kept in. The younger ones have always been provided with in ears so since they're so used to it, suddenly adapting to a new condition like performing without in ears is something very new and unusual for them. SVT didn't have a choice so they had to work twice as hard to perform without the in ears to makeup for the impact it would have on their performance.
greetings and stuff are another thing that fans blew out of proportion... anyway it's not like Hoshi's concern was DK being rude (he greeted them, just not in a loud way) but he wanted to see passion and determination from him and these kind of things can be shown even by saying an energetic greeting. It's like when people told me to shake hands vigorously, it's not a matter of politeness, but more a way to show you're not timid and that you're confident.
Dk explanations are best. 😅 They are like TMI 😅 For instance, when Hoshi asked him to greet properly, Dk goes to other room and cried with fist in his mouth 😂😂😂
For Hoshi at that age to have that mentality and maturity is amazing!! 💜💜💜🦋🦋🦋But when you have family to take care of and one shot…I get it. Very proud of him and all of OT13!! 💜💜💜💜🦋🦋🦋
There was even an instance where Hoshi hurt his shoulder or something and him and his manager went to the hospital and there was a fan(one of the ones that stalks artists and stuff) and Hoshi even went to the person’s car and I think tried to open the door or something. Pretty much confronted the person. And I think he even got back in his car and tried to block the person from leaving. He doesn’t deal with bullshit like that. czcams.com/users/shortswhzGA5cvZWo?feature=share
If it's the same situation that I'm thinking, it was after a concert. They were having an after-party with the staff and all, and some "fansites" (sasaengs) were following them, from concert to the restaurant and then to the dorms. Managers tried to deceive them, but they were arriving on the dorms' street. Then the manager's car stopped and both him and Hoshi went to the sasaeng's car and knocked on the window, confronted and tried to block them from leaving. That's what I remember reading from the driver's twitter thread. Can't remember the part abt his injury though. I mostly remember Woozi's fansite Mint Breeze being involved in this, but there was a Hoshi fansite too and apparently she felt that bc she had sent him an expensive gift and been his fansite for years/bought tons of albums etc he owed her something and was rude to confront them for following their car and putting Seventeen in danger. I'm glad Hoshi's this way, he fears nothing and knows how to protect himself and his own.
I can feel Hoshi a lot..this makes me remember the times when I was a University student doing a group assignment where sometimes we had 6-7 members in a team ...there would always be one member doing work half-heartedly while several of us doing it with our whole heart and sacrifice our time and energy sometimes we barely sleep but this one person never do their part and always missing and give nonsense excuses end up with another person cover up their work but they still get the same marks or even higher...our lecturer doesn't even care about this thing as long as you have done your work they always like told us "that is your problem. You are an adult person I don't wanna hear any problem with your teammates it's childish..what I want is whether you finish it or not no matter what"... it's unfair yk so I kinda understand Hoshi on that...I feel that a lot
Went through that a lot in life, and it taught me how to get things done: either do it all yourself, so that even if it's a lot of work, you know it's well made bc you worked hard on it; or kick out/call out the person slacking off. I learned that I can't feel embarrassed or ashamed of calling out people on their bs, especially if it affects me. It isn't you, the person working hard and losing nights of sleep bc of it that should feel embarrassment or shame - it's them! Let them know that and they might even continue the work or just leave on their own accord. Both are wins.
Some of the trainees he was talking about, I wonder if they were the ones that didn’t get to debut from the Seventeen TV videos. The youngest Samuel didn’t debut because his mom thought he was too young at the time but there were a few others I didn’t recognize
imo it's only fair that they left if they couldn't sustain the idol life. debuting and being successful isn't something easy, it requires hard work and sacrifice and I can understand if they chose to live a normal life instead.
There are many people that trained with Seventeen yet never debuted, and many never even showed up on that green basement. Per example, Hwanwoong from ONEUS, one actor that I forgot abt right now, both trained with them and yet never showed up on 17TV. Doyoon thought they wouldn't succeed and left, MingMing was cut during the monthly evaluation process and Dongjin was "kicked out" a bit before debut, I can't remember why, but no one likes to talk abt him for some reason
the leaders nodding with their co-leader's sentiments about the supposed "seventeen" spots😔 it was a difficult journey. a long one probably for like, what-? 15, 16- 19 year olds...? gosh😣 but at least we all know that their hard work paid off, we're all witness to that
U should also know where Hoshi came from, like he said he only had a single shot (his family was in debt, they lost their home and debuting was his only way to save his family from financial insecurity + added to that he was also mocked by several people calling him fat, so he practiced till late night skipping meals and even sleep sometimes ) He was also made the dance leader and had to choreograph their debut song which added immense pressure to his already burdened shoulders, ofcrs he had to make sure his team wouldn't fail. Ofcrs he regretted a lot afterwards and appologised several times to his members
@@mansisingh5178 it's kk u can hv ur own perspective, but it only made them work hard to eventually become the most synchronized grp in the history of Kpop. Also they respect each other nd understood his situation (especially the leader line agreeing as they went through a lot to debut) , also forgave him
@@mansisingh5178 I agree that you shouldn't be rude and what he said wasn't very nice but the pressure and stress he had at a mere age of like 16-17 didn't let him think straight. He himself was barely an adult who had to take responsibility of like 17-20 kids along with his family. He probably didn't see how hurtful it must've been at that time because he was having a hard time himself too. It's really hard to think about individual people when you've to make sure the whole team is perfect, choreograph their songs along with the pressure of losing your family home and making money for your family. He had too much on his plate to think about others. Maybe that sounds a little selfish but the situation he was in, it was best to be selfish because he was a trainee from a small company with limited funds. There wasn't time to slack off or make mistakes. He necessarily didn't mean it but the high stress situation made him unable to think and consider before speaking. DK though initially hurt, also understood Hoshi's situation. That's why he didn't fight him because of that comment as it wasn't something he actually meant. Him regretting it so much that he apologized several times does show that. We all say mean stuff when we're so stressed that our head's about to explode but the important thing is after calming down we should think it through and apologize to the person involved which Hoshi did.
I love how most of the comments here commends Hoshi for his good sense of responsibility and hardwork, which is all great ❤. But the bottom line remains - What he said to DK at the time was too harsh and condescending. To say people like Dk are "the reason why the group is doomed" was quite bad, regardless of whatever situation took place. All he had to say or do was demand that DK took his practice and work more seriously so as to not bring the team down...instead of making a conclusion on him or branding him such a term. I'm glad they've all grown. They now understand and love each other even more than they did before. It is wholesome and I'm here for it!❤
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@@maknaesobsession03 it's svt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
Hoshi may be goofy most of the time but he's very hard working and responsible when it comes to their performances, what he feels back then makes sense and thanks to DK being sensitive that he worked harder and gave more than his best survived among 20 trainees. DK is actually very passionate when it comes to singing as much as Hoshi being passionate with his dancing
Exactly, they are really professionals in their respective fields❤️
Pero Hoshi canta increíble. En esos tiempos lo han tenido q pasar muy mal. Pq para la edad q tenían. Era mucha responsabilidad
Para los tres Hoshi. Woozy. Scoups.
This side of Hoshi is rare to see 😆
But we still love to see him❤️
Yeah. We always see only that adorable horangi but it's good to see his responsible, sincere side.
Dokyeom handsome and talented, was born to be an idol but heart is what worries me. He seems to be a sensitive type.
He is such a sweetheart and warm person that must be protected at all costs❤️
dk is indeed sensitive, other members often said he really gets sulky or upset or offended because i think he recognizes his emotions which makes him really pure 😭🤍🫶🏻
He has the same MBTI and almost similar personality as mine so I can relate a lot. If somebody said to me, I'd cry too not because they said that but because I'd feel like I disappointed them by not putting in enough efforts. I think it has more to do with thinking that you're being an inconvenience than actually the words. He was very new too so he probably wasn't all that settled and still uncomfortable so hearing that must've been not welcoming. I did have a similar situation though not exactly the same but it made me cry too. It's also isn't Hoshi's fault because I see where he was coming from. I think that's why they don't really like to talk about their trainees days a lot.
@@jayennegiselle1836 I've been a fan of his for years now and I can actually see how sulky he can get sometimes and that worries me. His heart is just so fragile and with all these suicide in kpop, I'm so worried for him 😭
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat I agree
The other 2 leaders nodding their heads at hoshi last words 😂 , but really seventeen is a successful group and one of the reasons behind it is the 3 great leaders
Indeed❤️, they went through alot to reach this level and we are proud of them😍
Oh the leaders nodded when Hoshi was saying that this is all they had… really Hoshi scoups and Woozi I feel even back then had a lot on their shoulders from what I’ve read. And I get DK too. From what the members says, he’s the pondering type. So I get him feeling hurt back then~ tho it’s all good now hehe. As he said.
They went through alot to reach this level❤️
Wow hoshi was right tho if someone who didnt put as much or even close to the effort he put in future there is always a chance they would slack or so. He had all the tight to worry but I'm glad he sorted it out with dk even tho it seemed like a small thing. Im glad they succeeded!! Thry so deserved it
Exactly, our hoshi is the Ace of svt❤️ and we are proud of him💜
Exactly. It was do or die for him since I heard that his family was struggling financially at that time too so I do get why he wanted it all to be perfect. Their company didn't really have that much funds so if it somehow didn't work out then he really wouldn't have any chance. For them, every opportunity was very important. So I do get why he was so sensitive and short tempered at that time. I think DK too understood the position they were in and that's why they're so close. Plus they were all so young, barely adults and the amount of responsibilities they had to bear must've not been easy, no wonder they were all so sensitive at that time.
He's got a good head around his shoulders. He knows how a single member's performance will effect the whole group and he stood his ground that he does not want someone to negatively effect the group. I feel like this is something that most new groups lack :') They just working hard on their own without criticizing the others since they're not close friends just yet.. Unlike hoshi being that bold and strict to anyone. But look at where that brings them, nobody in Seventeen half-assing things. Hoshi truly deserve to be one of the top leaders :))
Hoshi has always shown a great sense of responsibility. To his family, his team and his fans. It shows. He gives 200% every time as if it’s the last time. That’s what makes him Hoshi. That’s what makes him stand out. My bias 🥰
Hoshi is just toooo sensible and deep at times,that it scares me(kinda like;gets me all serious)lol.
True leader!🙌🔥
I'm glad SVT is where it is today. They deserve it! Their zeal, charisma and passion for what they are doing is amazing! We love you SEVENTEEN!
Just want to bring up as well that Hoshi has addressed this two years ago before Dk brought it up on this show when he was on a diff variety talk show. Hoshi acknowledged he was harsh for saying those things like “we will fail bc of guys like you.”
Hoshi is one of the most hardworking Idol I've ever seen he is so passionate about his works it jus clearly shows back then his family had financial problem he took it upon himself to succeed and do something for his family I am proud of him he has come so far ❤
Seriously if I were in DOKYEOM'S PLACE it would have hurt like hell. But I think they would have cleared it out by the way Dk said it in a funny way. And hoshi literally has a heart of gold and if someone had to be in his (hoshi's place) they would have prolly misunderstood that people aren't trying their best too. I hope no one misunderstands this .SEVENTEEN ARE LIKE BROTHERS whatever misunderstanding they have they will clear it out. Hoshi and Deekay both are amazing people!
If you connect this statement to member's statement about Dk constantly practice singing, maybe this was the reason why Dokyeom is so eager to practice wherever he is, to the point that other members and other idols can have a complaint about hearing Kyeom's loud voice...
And now they have the bond like an old married grandpa and grandma
Yk when a group simply reaches a point when they release a song and you just know they'll ace the charts and win because they've achieved that credibility?! That is SVT now. They have achieved. They are there. At that peak. And I'm happy I get to witness it.
Dk is very sensitive and it worries me when I think about the hate comments haters say. I hope he doesn't let them get to him.
Don't worry dear svt can protect svt from haters or any other problem❤️
what? where? who ever said any hate comment about DK? whooo????
@@veebubbles5404 every idol has haters. there's nothing specific directed to dk
Hoshi is not just a performance team by name, but he really acts that role. He always make sure thay all members even him give their best on stage ❤❤❤ We stan 13 hardworking men who loves us dearly ❤❤❤
Finally the whole vid of this topiccc~
I've seen some people comment how harsh Hoshi's words were & misunderstanding him, without knowing the whole thing.
That's the actual reson behind posting the whole clip😍
I hope Seoksoon stays for a lifetime.
Understandable.. See how many groups are there and how competitive they are.. It was and is really serious when it come to talents of idols.. How many get criticized even when they have soo much talent to offer.. And having a hard time to bring up a group to debut in a company that's not rich.. They had enough and more concerns to deal with at a very sensitive young age...
Many don't understand how hard the trainee life is for some idols..
I would have been both Hoshi and DK if I were training 😭
As in giving it my all..but crying in the next room if anyone said anything
Hoshi is not just my bias and bias wrecker for nothing he is also like a role model to me❤️ there is no doubt that he works so hard and is truly ambitious and passionate towards his works🐯🐯❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭❤️❤️ I love him so much❤️❤️ and same goes for all the members❤️❤️
My lovely babies ❤no matter what o will support you
Exactly, carats are always at the back of our boys❤️
TBH I feel like it was good Hoshi was like that it pushed ppl to do their best. And it seems a lot of the newer generation kpop idols r kinda disrespectful not saying they do it on purpose but they don't have the mindset. I think I saw a video where Heechul or someone said a lot of the new kpop idols don't even greet them or others
I think for them they didn't have any choice at that time. So they had to do what they did perfectly because they had no other means if it didn't work out. Like I heard they didn't have the money to afford in ears so they performed without it. People criticize the younger groups for performing badly without their in ears in encore performances and give the example of Seventeen but I would say the newer generation also don't have much of a fault. You adapt to the condition you're kept in. The younger ones have always been provided with in ears so since they're so used to it, suddenly adapting to a new condition like performing without in ears is something very new and unusual for them. SVT didn't have a choice so they had to work twice as hard to perform without the in ears to makeup for the impact it would have on their performance.
greetings and stuff are another thing that fans blew out of proportion... anyway it's not like Hoshi's concern was DK being rude (he greeted them, just not in a loud way) but he wanted to see passion and determination from him and these kind of things can be shown even by saying an energetic greeting. It's like when people told me to shake hands vigorously, it's not a matter of politeness, but more a way to show you're not timid and that you're confident.
Dk explanations are best. 😅 They are like TMI 😅 For instance, when Hoshi asked him to greet properly, Dk goes to other room and cried with fist in his mouth 😂😂😂
Fr😂 almost all svt members are great story tellers with perfect reinactment😅
For Hoshi at that age to have that mentality and maturity is amazing!! 💜💜💜🦋🦋🦋But when you have family to take care of and one shot…I get it. Very proud of him and all of OT13!! 💜💜💜💜🦋🦋🦋
@@prpldiva10 we all proud of our hardworking horanghae🐯❤️
There was even an instance where Hoshi hurt his shoulder or something and him and his manager went to the hospital and there was a fan(one of the ones that stalks artists and stuff) and Hoshi even went to the person’s car and I think tried to open the door or something. Pretty much confronted the person. And I think he even got back in his car and tried to block the person from leaving. He doesn’t deal with bullshit like that.
czcams.com/users/shortswhzGA5cvZWo?feature=share
If it's the same situation that I'm thinking, it was after a concert. They were having an after-party with the staff and all, and some "fansites" (sasaengs) were following them, from concert to the restaurant and then to the dorms. Managers tried to deceive them, but they were arriving on the dorms' street. Then the manager's car stopped and both him and Hoshi went to the sasaeng's car and knocked on the window, confronted and tried to block them from leaving. That's what I remember reading from the driver's twitter thread. Can't remember the part abt his injury though.
I mostly remember Woozi's fansite Mint Breeze being involved in this, but there was a Hoshi fansite too and apparently she felt that bc she had sent him an expensive gift and been his fansite for years/bought tons of albums etc he owed her something and was rude to confront them for following their car and putting Seventeen in danger. I'm glad Hoshi's this way, he fears nothing and knows how to protect himself and his own.
If I was one of the trainees I’d have been scolded by hoshi 🤣🤣
Hoshi is really hard working and that's what I really like about him
They all are working really hard and we are proud of them all❤️
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat agreed ❤️
He really has a great leadership
I can feel Hoshi a lot..this makes me remember the times when I was a University student doing a group assignment where sometimes we had 6-7 members in a team ...there would always be one member doing work half-heartedly while several of us doing it with our whole heart and sacrifice our time and energy sometimes we barely sleep but this one person never do their part and always missing and give nonsense excuses end up with another person cover up their work but they still get the same marks or even higher...our lecturer doesn't even care about this thing as long as you have done your work they always like told us "that is your problem. You are an adult person I don't wanna hear any problem with your teammates it's childish..what I want is whether you finish it or not no matter what"... it's unfair yk so I kinda understand Hoshi on that...I feel that a lot
Went through that a lot in life, and it taught me how to get things done: either do it all yourself, so that even if it's a lot of work, you know it's well made bc you worked hard on it; or kick out/call out the person slacking off. I learned that I can't feel embarrassed or ashamed of calling out people on their bs, especially if it affects me. It isn't you, the person working hard and losing nights of sleep bc of it that should feel embarrassment or shame - it's them! Let them know that and they might even continue the work or just leave on their own accord. Both are wins.
Some of the trainees he was talking about, I wonder if they were the ones that didn’t get to debut from the Seventeen TV videos. The youngest Samuel didn’t debut because his mom thought he was too young at the time but there were a few others I didn’t recognize
imo it's only fair that they left if they couldn't sustain the idol life. debuting and being successful isn't something easy, it requires hard work and sacrifice and I can understand if they chose to live a normal life instead.
There are many people that trained with Seventeen yet never debuted, and many never even showed up on that green basement. Per example, Hwanwoong from ONEUS, one actor that I forgot abt right now, both trained with them and yet never showed up on 17TV.
Doyoon thought they wouldn't succeed and left, MingMing was cut during the monthly evaluation process and Dongjin was "kicked out" a bit before debut, I can't remember why, but no one likes to talk abt him for some reason
It is so amazing to see how matured hw was at that really young age. Such a responsible man you are our cutest tiger❤❤❤
Love it!!
the leaders nodding with their co-leader's sentiments about the supposed "seventeen" spots😔
it was a difficult journey. a long one probably for like, what-? 15, 16- 19 year olds...? gosh😣
but at least we all know that their hard work paid off, we're all witness to that
Huge respect for these amazing guys and their lovely carats❤️
Seventeen hoshi born in 1996 ❤ best leaders
😢😢😢❤❤❤
People should think before speaking.. some words are just buried in the heart and cause pain
But because of his words his team worked really hard to reach this level 😊
U should also know where Hoshi came from, like he said he only had a single shot (his family was in debt, they lost their home and debuting was his only way to save his family from financial insecurity + added to that he was also mocked by several people calling him fat, so he practiced till late night skipping meals and even sleep sometimes ) He was also made the dance leader and had to choreograph their debut song which added immense pressure to his already burdened shoulders, ofcrs he had to make sure his team wouldn't fail. Ofcrs he regretted a lot afterwards and appologised several times to his members
@@98aishya i love hoshi and ofcourse his dance too.. but being rude is not helpful in any case rspecially to freinds
@@mansisingh5178 it's kk u can hv ur own perspective, but it only made them work hard to eventually become the most synchronized grp in the history of Kpop. Also they respect each other nd understood his situation (especially the leader line agreeing as they went through a lot to debut) , also forgave him
@@mansisingh5178 I agree that you shouldn't be rude and what he said wasn't very nice but the pressure and stress he had at a mere age of like 16-17 didn't let him think straight. He himself was barely an adult who had to take responsibility of like 17-20 kids along with his family. He probably didn't see how hurtful it must've been at that time because he was having a hard time himself too. It's really hard to think about individual people when you've to make sure the whole team is perfect, choreograph their songs along with the pressure of losing your family home and making money for your family. He had too much on his plate to think about others. Maybe that sounds a little selfish but the situation he was in, it was best to be selfish because he was a trainee from a small company with limited funds. There wasn't time to slack off or make mistakes. He necessarily didn't mean it but the high stress situation made him unable to think and consider before speaking. DK though initially hurt, also understood Hoshi's situation. That's why he didn't fight him because of that comment as it wasn't something he actually meant. Him regretting it so much that he apologized several times does show that. We all say mean stuff when we're so stressed that our head's about to explode but the important thing is after calming down we should think it through and apologize to the person involved which Hoshi did.
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I love hoshi sm 🤧
I wanted to watch this but no English sub thanks for the sub
Yes, but you can watch almost whole show in different clips that are in eng subtitles😊
Is there a full episode of this show with English subs? I only find snippets of this but can’t find the whole episode. Can someone provide a link pls
You can watch complete epi on bilibili site with eng subtitles
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat what show is this from?
It’s from svt in “Goblin who steals the wisdom”
May I know the name of the song at the end?
Itu acara apa kak
Hi! Where can I watch the full vid?
Complete video is not available but you can watch almost complete show in short clips by searching svt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
Link please 🙏 i want full episode 😢😢
Full video is not available but you can watch almost complete show in short clips on youtube
I keep seeing this show, but idk what show is this. Can anyone tell me thou???
It's svt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
May i know where did you watch this?
The whole show is not available in eng subtitles but you can watch almost complete show in short clips 😊
Can anyone please tell me , where do i watch this? Please
Its a show called "Goblin who steals the wisdom" with svt
Where can i watch this
Its seventeen in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
From what video is this?
@@minicient4593 it’s svt in “Goblin who steals the wisdom”
Where can I watch the whole episode
Complete video is not available but you can watch almost complete show in short clips
Tqsm ......💜
@@suhebataskeen3927 Aww no worries, be happy 😊
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat ❤️❤️
Wish uhh d same😊
Where I can watch full episode
Full video is not available but you can watch almost complete show in short clips
What is the name of thia variety show ?
It's svt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
Where this video from???
It's a show called "Goblin who steals the wisdom" with svt
Where can I watch the full episode?
Full video is not available but you can watch almost complete show in short clips 😊
Program name plz
It'ssvt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
What is the name of this program??
It's "Goblin who steals the wisdom" with svt
name of the show pls
It’s svt in “Goblin who steals the wisdom”
Which show is it?
Its svt in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
What show is this?
It’s svt in goblin who steals the wisdom
Where is this from?
It's "Goblin who steals the wisdom" with svt
Thank you 💕
Were can i see this please ?😢
Seventeen in "Goblin who steals the wisdom"
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat how can I watch that?
Complete video is not available but you can watch whole show in clips
@@Love_Yourself_17_Carat thank you
No worries, be happy❤️
I love how most of the comments here commends Hoshi for his good sense of responsibility and hardwork, which is all great ❤.
But the bottom line remains - What he said to DK at the time was too harsh and condescending. To say people like Dk are "the reason why the group is doomed" was quite bad, regardless of whatever situation took place.
All he had to say or do was demand that DK took his practice and work more seriously so as to not bring the team down...instead of making a conclusion on him or branding him such a term.
I'm glad they've all grown. They now understand and love each other even more than they did before. It is wholesome and I'm here for it!❤
Dk is very sensitive and it worries me when I think about the hate comments haters say. I hope he doesn't let them get to him.
He is such a sweetie how can anyone hate this cutie😍❤️