Should FORWARD FACING SONAR Be BANNED?! (Travel Vlog Q&A)
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- Fresh off of a 15th place finish at Toledo Bend and we are headed to Santee Cooper for Stage 2. Im doing something new this year and am going to do a Q&A on the travel vlogs. I will post on my instagram about it to get y'all's questions! Thanks for the support
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Should FORWARD FACING SONAR Be BANNED?! (Travel Vlog Q&A) - Sport
I would like to see the anglers use raw skills acquired over the years in at least two tournaments.
They won’t even be able to hit there target they throwing at they haven’t fished the bank since 6 years for some people the fish the bank 1 month out of the year for spawn but hey let everyone fish the middle I will fish the bank everyday
@@HunterBlackburn-mx8oy This is my home lake. 85% of the lake is between 0-15 feet deep, there's one section of the middle that's 30-50. You know who has the live scope and FFS because they are sitting in the middle (in the roughest part of the lake with spot lock just murdering their trolling motor). No one would choose to be out there getting buzzed by weekend warriors if they weren't on some shit no one else can see.
They need to change the game to hold one tournament throughout the season to were they can use any electronics and raised the price money.
Man, a lot of you guys are cry babies
brian lattimer fishes tournys that use no electronics some times.
I read Edwin Evers article on ffs, and from a fan I think a lot of people need to read that. It's here to stay like it or not
I went and read that article after reading your comment. I agree it’s not going anywhere, but my main issue is at the end of that article, he says “it’s something I want and NEED in my boat”. the fact that pros are now saying they “need” it, kind of proves that it’s a crutch. I also think a lot of people’s issues with it (myself included) is the price tag. It’s not in many people’s budget, and there a may be a slight jealousy factor at play
@thomaswinslow1624 all true, Def a tough topic, I'm with you if it was in a better price range ,
Also I'm not speaking for Edwin but I took that need. As him saying everyone else has it, so if he went without it he would get blown out the water competition wise,
I right in the middle, I hate watching it but rather watch power fishing
Thanks for showing my home, Lake Washington. Some love.
Yes sir, Pot holes, lake washington, lake sammamish, banks, there all a blast
Always enjoy the videos. The wrap on that boat looks great as well! Always rooting for you each tourney!!
lol that boy speeding...rollin safe travels
Great video 😎 keep your head in the game ,, we need another great tournament finish ,, move up in the standings 😎
I’m pretty sure at most pumps if you hit the second button from top on right of screen it usually turns off the audio at pump.
😮 THANK YOU!!!
Great video. Love the question part of it. Go get ‘em MDJ 💪
Love the split screens,, great video man, keep'um coming..
I think depth finders and livescope in general are getting outrageously expensive especially for the average angler. If you want to introduce it to a more wide range of working class people then drop the price so people can actually afford it
Fun video, Good luck this week JR. Do well , have fun Catchum -up..
WOO WOO! That's only in the mornin', supposed to be up, cookin' breakfast or somethin' and its like an alarm clock - WOO WOO
I love the split screen. I’m new to FFS and I’m learning by watching you guys.
Bro love this you and dc my top favorites period and the chrome blue trap is truth on the old school throwin it def my go to for the rat trap
Keep it real buddy! Tell us how you feel! Been a fan a long time. Its gonna be your year. Cant wait for you to beat JW and DC in a tourney!
Yea one day they going to get top 4 all them
I think half of the tournaments should allow it, and half should not!
Love my Livescope!!
First of all best of luck at Santee.
Love the travel, log with questions. Awesome addition.
And thanks for the advice on catch and release on gummy worms
Love the split screen views!! You need to use your cruise control more. On this vlog you went from 60s to nearly 90 and back to upper 70s. This would help your mpgs.
Thanks for the mileage update with the tires, lift and load I think that’s pretty good
Mdj you the man!!! Great travel vlog and appreciate you answering questions honestly as all get out!! As a West Coast homie it would be awesome to see you guys on Havasu or Mead, let alone the Delta or Clear Lake but we can all dream👊👊 With FFS maybe have some tournaments without any??? That way it levels the field🤷♂️
Love the travel vlog, keep choppin bud
Keep up the good work bro. Man DC is off the chain.
Love your work MDJ
had fun with this episode
Dc is awesome 💯😂. Man you guy's are some good people 💯 no lie would love to chill with you guy's 😂😂 had me roll at the end 🍻🤝
Mark you are so right about the fish becoming adapted to the ping. Lake Douglas in East Tennessee has been pinged so much that as soon as you turn it on they scatter. So in the future we will see all major lakes go though this turn off.
Love the split screen
Ok Mark heres my idea. Electronic companies create 360 live scope. The transducer is mounted in the center of the boat and lowers into the water by a button. Runs to two monitors, one on the front and one on the console. No other electronics allowed.
Banned all together not just in tournaments.
Lake Falcon. October 2016. Chrome Blue Back Trap. Will never forget it. 2 in the boat. We caught over 140 Bass on um! Average 3-4 younders! Had several 9+ younders jump off due to straight muscle failure/fatigue running in that lake falcon cover. That day ruined me. Never ever came close to duplicating any time anywhere since.
Seeing split screen, lures and break offs makes for good tv. They gotta let us see the drama of losing that big one and getting broke off 😢😅
Thanks for the info on the new Tundra!
I would love to see a few tourneys where the only electronics used are Depth, Temp, and GPS with no waypoints. 😊
Not gonna comment on the FFS, over the haggling. But a big thank you for shouting out the west coast. We have almost nothing out here but local clubs. I’m in Seattle, lake Washington is my home lake, and I’d love to see some BFL’s and more MLF tourneys out out way. Nearest to me is Clear lake in the Toyotas this year.
The split screen is awesome i think it is we can learn how it works
I like the split screen 😊
he is right...punching the ca delta thick stuff is the best!
Love the split screen...
You guys are elite anglers. You have the skills, knowledge, and experience/expertise. I'd rather see you guys pitting all of that against each other to win a tourney. Anyone can look at a screen and find a fish. It takes no skill. I used it for the first time on a buddys boat recently. Put all of that knowledge and experience to the real test and out perform that guy that's fishing next to you. That's a sport that takes real skill. I'd rather hear you guys mic'd up, listening to the thought process out loud, hearing you guys read the water and weather. Maybe even spontaneously creating a new way of rigging a lure right then and there because you just can't get them to bite on the old stuff!! Now that would be exciting to watch. I think you guys are forgetting the importance of viewership. If the viewers go bye bye so does that prize money!! Yeah you guys might get money from sponsors and companies but if those ads and viewers go, booooy that money is going to dry up quicker than that fishin hole!! The only thing you'll be fishing is that fish patty out of the hot grease at McDonald's!! Try to feed your family on that mess!! You guys were put on tv for a reason!! Don't slit your own throats!
Would love to see you out west. CDA lake is my home lake. Potholes and Moses are great fisheries also.
Always appreciate your info Mark! FFS Split screen is cool, but for those of us that don't have it, would be nice if there was a bit of explaining what we are actually seeing. One thing for sure, some of you guys in BPT do a good job with camera/viewer awareness and make it less boring watching when you are using FFS.
Mark Exxon is the worse gas to purchase. It burn faster than others. Chevron is the best gas. Safe travels.
If MLF ever comes to lake Washington I’m calling out of work sick for a week. Props for that shout out 👍
😂😂 fire content!
Some of the issues with ffs are the same reasons why trolling wasn’t allowed in tournaments the beginning. We knew those fish were there before no matter what people say. We targeted them by trolling for them when just fun fishing when I was barely big enough to hold a pole. Anyway, First, nobody likes to see guys starring at screens anymore than they wanted to see guys slowly driving around out there. Split screens help but it’s not the answer. Another reason it wasn’t allowed was it was a nightmare logistically for those draw tournaments back in the day too. Now we’re seeing pros being paired with pros on the tours that have them because co anglers are not signing up. I love the fact that I can target a barely tapped population of fish, and I actually catch myself happy when I pull some of the school off a ledge now because I can spot and catch them out there in the abyss… but… I do have mixed feelings about ffs. Even if conservation doesn’t become a major problem, which is yet to be seen, it is pressuring fish in the only sanctuary left for them. That will have a impact on fisheries. . And I can’t lie, I took my 9yo just to teach him to throw a baitcaster and he won the little derby we entered by himself. I just picked out backlashes, scanned and told him where to try and cast. Sometimes he came close. Lol but it was enough. He beat some local sticks too. That made me really feel uneasy. I had to be excited for him, but in my gut I just felt like this isn’t right. Not everyone had it, but still.
I have the Hummingbird one boat system, I fish for fun. Just because you see them they still got to bite the bait . Today I caught two bass one FFS and the 360 showed a brush pile .
Mark: a couple of thoughts: 1. I see you were at a BP Gas Station. Get a BP Credit Card and save 15 cents on each gallon. Under current pricing that can save you 4% to 5% on some or all of your fuel purchases. Maybe $800 to $1000 per year. 2. Sorry, the split screen doesn’t work for me. Hard to see and boring to watch. 3. Why can’t we have 50% of the tournaments with out FFS and 50% with? The AOY would have to be good with and without FFS. Thanks for another great video. God Bless!
This dude is by far my favorite fisherman.
Definitely like seeing the split screen
I’d like to see a rotation every season of half the tournaments be with electronics and half without so you can see guys fish their strengths flipping or big swim baits etc
Yes❤
You’re the man!!!!! RANGER Boat’s!!!!!
I would love to see a West Coast MLF or BASS swing. BASS was going to do one in my State WA several years ago but the pros said they didn't want to drive that far, so it cancelled.
Let's go, MDJ! TUUUUU....U KNOW!
I do think it should and will eventually be banned. 2 reasons. First as you have mentioned it makes for terrible TV. The split screen feature is not going to change that. At some point the tournament organizations will be forced to face lower viewership numbers. Secondly, FFS techniques feature using plastic baits and jigheads with an occasional jerkbait mixed in. Soon the bait companies are going to come to the realization that FFS fishermen buy fewer bait varieties. Those sponsorship dollars might just start to dry up. The electronic companies will not be able to pick up that slack. Hopefully that might help force the issue
If you drink a few of them, you over served, if you Catholic haha, DC crazy!
I have 1st gen 3.5 Ecoboost 2011 5Star tuned I get 14 mpg with 20’s towing my Z21
I think it’s here to stay it won’t be banned to much money to be made off it guys! Might as well quit hating on it! I think you will see some limits placed on the pros as number of transducer! More folks fishing now than there has ever been! Don’t waste your energy on this subject. More things to be hating on like lack of securing the border 👍 😁
FFS is great and we can study the patterns. Also, when it costs 5600 for entry fees, yeah, im not mad at these guys taking every legal advantage they can. People are upset because of #1. Change. Those in small-town America do not like any change. #2. Cost. However, it may be expensive now but in the future, it will become cheaper. At that point, you'll see everyone with it. As Mark stated, it won't be nearly as effective. #3. people just love to complain about anything :)
During practice ffs is fine. but during the tourney yes ban it.. Yes, it is a tool but so is a range finder in golf. Even with the split screen it still makes for bad tv.
Slow down Speedy Gonzales....topped out at 90mph on cam hahahahahahahah
Great video
Ffs does make it a bit boring for the viewer
Where’s the best launch area at the delta? Never fish there before and would like to go there it’s north of where I’m at in the Central Valley.. thanks
Need to go to a diesel truck, lot better fuel mileage all around conditions. Good luck this year
For tournaments yes!!
I don't think these guys can operate any kind of machinery without a big tv screen in it! lol.... Love MDJ... go get em ol' son.
Fine for weekend warriors. Fine for Pros on practice day. Should be banned on tournament day for the pros. Been my take from go and I don’t see anything that has changed my opinion on it.
MDJ what do you think will be the next big invention will be ( like FFS ). What in your world would you do, make, invent ? Keep up the great Season Thank you
I think it should be banned on championship day only. Good luck this season MDJ
I don’t think it should be band but I do think there should be at least one tournament that goes back old school no electronics I think it would be interesting. Keep grinding Bro this year is your year!!
Mark- PRO TIP- usually 2nd button on top right at the gas station will "mute" that garbage ads you hear!
This will eventually be like NASCAR. With regs on electronics. Getting out of control. But I agree it ain’t going anywhere. But limiting to one ffsducer on the front would be reasonable. And only two graphs. Pros don’t need 5-6 graphs on the boat with only two eyeballs. I can see it going like the racing and have rules on equipment. Otherwise then the boys should be able to run 300 R motors then
If somebody fed me the electronics with a silver spoon i would probably prefer it too!
I think there should be at least some tournaments that don't allow it.
The split screen is a 15 to 20% improvement, and definitely better than not having it. However, the majority of folks aren’t going to know what they’re looking at…and the image quality by the time it crosses over to the viewer is still pretty poor. But even though it’s better than nothing, as the technology advances, it will eventually be identical to watching someone play a fishing game on a N64. 😕
Another thing that no one seems to want to talk about is the fact that it makes different tournament locations almost pointless…minus small changes in scenery.
Keep 2D, DI and SI… Let the FFS go. As cheesy as it sounds, it takes away the mystique that was often associated with great fisherman/anglers.
What gas do you run in your boat and how important is it if it is?
On the right side of the gas pump screen, if you press the second button from the top it will mute it. Thank me later!
Yes, the split screen makes it fun to watch!
Man I think it up to the person. I would like to see some tournaments not let the pros use forward image sonar but No my opinion is let y’all use it. The technology for fishing is getting better and better every year. 1 more thing even though you have live scope or active target you still have to get the fish to bite.
Split screen makes the difference!!
Love the split screen, idk if it’s my eyes but I couldn’t ever see what they was throwing at even in 4 ft of water.
My guy bussin 90mph wit a trailer behind him lol bro started talking bout toward facing sonar foot went to smashing lol
Push the 2nd button on right should shut that screen up.. 🤘🏻
Maybe ffs in practice and then none on derby day
wait 10 mi/gal. that will not beat reliability. how many miles do you drive in a season?
I’d like to see some tournaments without FFS or only available in practice.
As much as I like to know more about the behavior of bass, I would like less FFS in the tournaments as it isn’t as much fun to watch. I do like the graph but it needs to be on every boat as they switch back and forth in the live events.
That's right potholes, would be a great place.
I like the side screen on MLF most def
Better have big puffy ready 30 on the pond is cold!
I believe there definitely needs too be a limit on ffs transducers. I wish Bass and Mlf would limit it too one forward facing transducer only. Any way they want too mount it trolling motor , pole or turret it doesn’t matter but one that’s all ! It’s not going away so make it one period !
Saying its not going away doesnt make sense. Its all about will. Why doesn't MLB use aluminum bats? Why are F1 cars limited in engine size? Why can't PGA golfers use a range finder? Why can't bass pros troll, or use 20 foot poles while bed fishing?
I turn it to Tow Haul Sport, she really git gitty. Wooo Woooo 😂
a little over $3 a gallon that's awesome compared here in Cali
@22:51 Its called Catch & Release...🤣
I think it's RANGER BOATS and CHEVY TRUCKS, What is a toy?
Yo DC i love the explanation and logic. Pretty sure thats called anorexia. But imma try it too 😂
Chrome n blue black.., 46r.. where can I get this lure.. mdj hey man yu dc jdubb n brain are pretty much my go to guys on fishing tips.. should start a show call “Keeping it reel fishing..! Drop all knowledgeable facts about fishing n the tech etc etc.,!!
I don't have a boat so Sonar doesn't really bother me lol, but i've seen guys in tourneys that i watch actually lose possibly because of it because Forward Facing Sonar told them the fish are right here and they would just sit on a spot that had a big one or a wad of fish on it for hours but they couldn't get them to bite, if you didn't have the Sonar you wouldn't even know they were there and have moved on way sooner like after 30mins you'd be like they must not be here time to move lol. So imo it's a double edged sword. I think the Elites last year had a tourney down south and live feed showed a pro sitting on a bridge spot that had a big one for 2hrs plus and he never did get him to bite which also made for a very boring live feed of a guy just looking at a screen for 2hrs lol. Also it's not a Creek Series unless Mark Jr. is neck deep in the water at somepoint in the video lol.
Does your brakes squeal on that Tundra like mine do and Toyota has no fix for it smh
Son you are going 85 mph towing a boat 😮 LOL