Another high speed rail project would connect Las Vegas to California stops
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- Another high-speed rail project could eventually connect Las Vegas to additional stops throughout California. Channel 13's Joe Moeller takes a closer look.
Ngl, the title made this sound like construction on the current route had been halted.
Glad to hear it was just referring to a potential extension/connection.
Not gonna lie they had us in the first half
click bait
Well, they said LV to "California stops". Didn't say where in CA.
Yeah I completely thought they were saying “we broke ground the other day and now the project has stopped” which made me just think “because of course. The other 5 projects failed”. And honestly it seems like this one too will probably find a way to be canceled.
Literally the only reason I clicked lol.
congrats on mastering the clickbait title
Ambiguous title
I always love California High-Speed Rail in California and Brightline West.😮
Building more stations in congested areas will be VERY EXPENSIVE. That's why it was left out of phase 1.
Clickbait but im enjoying the reporter in the white T😂
Shirt
They are predicting $400.00 round trip from here to LA. No thanks! Southwest is less than $100.00 a flight and if you pay with points it’s less than that. Also once your into LA the Metro system it has so much crime in it why in the world would you want to use this system at all?
There’s enough money to get California HSR done within 8 years, however due to corruption it’ll never happen. My uncle is a “consultant” for the HSR project in the central valley and he’s making over 300k, it’s a great idea and there is enough money, but California is so poorly run, it all goes into the pockets of greedy people who realize that they can profit and not do anything
Well RMTransit says in that video, it doesn’t need a profit.
Wow all this high speed rail should be done when I turn 100 in 2063. The whole transcontinental was built in 7 years. Today’s politicians talk about shit that long and take forever to build anything.
Sort of agree with you. Europe took 20 years to build a 35 mile tunnel at the base of the Swiss Alps. The UK and France took 6 YEARS to build the 31-mile Chunnel, yet it is going to take 15 YEARS to complete the Gateway Program in NYC/NJ.
It’s because they’re all being paid by oil and automobile lobbyist
The first iteration of the CP/UP fell apart almost as fast as it was built. Route maintenance and upgrades are still ongoing. So, in part you're right: construction could be hurried up. But also, it would be inhumane and financially unsound to apply 1860s methods today.
A scam… totally dishonest , engineered wrong , unsupported by logic or math
Never underestimate the influence of govt. regulatory agencies and environmental groups. This story is comedy gold in the morning.
Solves a glaring problem that the RC to LV line had. That it didn't actually go into LA. Good to see "the government" listening.
The train from Victorville to palmdale will be done when my daughter has kids of her own she's just 3 years old 😂😂
"Would".
Trains are truly expensive in the US.
May a lot of politicians attend the ribbon cutting ceremony and ride the inaugural run, non stop, one way, straight out of town.
In accordance with English grammar rules, the word "stops" used in the title of this video is a verb and not a noun so that word should be deleted because I thought that high speed rail project had to stop.
Just call Japan and have them build it. They would finsish it fasterand then send us the bill
Brightline knows what they are doing. They already have a proven track record in Florida. Unlike the scam that California is running with their HSR project. Private industry vs government corruption/incompetence.
How I wish this were possible
Gee. I wonder who owns the land along the right of way?
Who wrote this title? An intern?
More transportation options will only benefit the Las Vegas economy and real estate prices.
I think it's hilarious that they've been talking about building a rail line to Vegas for DECADES and when they finally break ground, the tracks will terminate well short of the Las Vegas Strip and in Rancho Cucamonga of all places. So I'll still have to drive 1-1.5 hours depending on traffic to just get on the train in RC, then it stops a solid 5 miles south of where everyone actually wants to go in Las Vegas. Ridiculous. And the stops along the way? Apple Valley and Hesperia. Great.
Now this additional rail line will connect Victorville and Palmdale. I couldn't be less impacted by this news. In any case, it will be a miracle if this is A) Ever finished; B) If finished, done before 2050; and C) Completed remotely close to budget.
The same people who are championing high-speed rail are also big supporters of smart EVs. Right now I can get in a Tesla and basically be driven from L.A. to Las Vegas in great comfort and when I get there, I'll have a car to drive around. Imagine how much better that will be in 5-10 years. Why would anyone ride a train?
You’re right, it won’t benefit YOU in the way you want it to from the start, so we should just give it up. I just love sitting in stopped traffic on the freeway!
Adam Something: did I?
Yay ! More trains , more HSR ! I’m 💯 on board 😁👍
What is missing in all these plans is a large transportation tunnel through the San Gabriel Mountains connecting Pasadena to the Llano area in the High Desert. That would allow multiple modes of transportation access to areas northeast of Los Angeles and a direct, non-stop route from the Greater Los Angeles basin to Las Vegas. These ideas of piecing-together multiple transportation systems just adds time to the trip and connecting scheduling coordination, both of which doom the best laid plans for an effective ground transportation system.
I dont see a situation where Angelenos in the city would drive 47mi just to take a train to Vegas. They'd be too comfortable in their trip already that they may as well do the rest of the drive there. It's only a 4hr drive or so, and by the time they get to Rancho, they'd already done 25% of the trip. I saw a video some user made about this train, and the tickets are going to be upwards of $400 roundtrip per person. Not worth it.
Only took 18 seconds for the first lie. It does not terminate in Los Angles. It stops in Victorville, two hours from anything near LA and only on a good day. If it is now planned for Rancho Cucamonga, then 1 hour from LA proper.
It's only one hour from LA. I used to be stationed at George AFB, but I'm from LA. I used to drive there every day.
No use if it stops in Victorville
Yes 100%😮
They need make it $60 or something
nah, $400 is a fair fare
My grandkids, grandkids may get to use it!
lets hope the cost to use it isn’t astronomical
I was thinking same thing . Watching this project is like watching pond Algae grow.
and your grandkids, grandkids, grandkids, grandkids, grandkids taxes will pay for it
Joe is a beautiful man 😍
California has not broken any ground with bright wine.Dont trust gavn nuisance
I've been trying to find a video that shows the REAL construction work. Couldn't find one. Is it really under construction?
Just for gambling?
Highway to hell
Hell yeah!
High Speed Rail between Victorville and Palmdale! That sounds like a party.
It's just bringing more trash to Nevada to destroy it like ca
I'll say.
Lol. Money grab time! Then abandon the project.
That's exactly what I believe too.
this will be the 3rd time they have spent billions on this already for it to fail a third time
54 miles highspeed rail. It is of no use. I am expecting 1000km.
This is great news, and make the connectivity between the two HSR lines happen much sooner.
Gross 🤢
dude they have tried this 2 times spent billions and have failed each time
Change the title
Brightline is not High Speed Tail. It is just a corporate purchasing of our public right of ways and money. HSR from LA to SF is fraught with issues, but it will actually be High Speed Rail and it will belong to the American people.
The HDC would unlock even more potential for BLW & CAHSR. As well as granting BLW access into LAUS, allowing for a one-seat ride rather than requiring a forced transfer at Rancho, connecting the two systems could permit CAHSR trains from San Francisco & Sacramento to operate directly onto BLW’s tracks to Las Vegas
No.
Future Edd: YES!!!!!
The ticket cost of a regular molasses paced train is already expensive, let alone a high speed train. Very few will ride it.
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
Yes it makes perfect sense to connect it to the boondocks instead of the actual major Metropolitan areas...
It shouldn't be being built at all it's going to fail miserably as well
Boondocks land is a heck of a lot cheaper than developed urban lands. (At least until owners of said boondocks lands hear about the plan.) And Eminent Domain is cheaper in the sticks.
Meanwhile, in the last decade or so, CH has built and has now more high speed rain than the rest of the world combined.
It’s as if their government actually wants to build high speed rail, while ours continues to pour tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars into freeways and airports every year.
Not to say those things aren’t important, but if our national government would stop giving in to aviation, auto, and fossil fuel lobbyists and actually put its full support behind both improving existing rail options and building new ones, including high speed rail, we absolutely could build a system to rival those around the world (maybe not at China’s level but that country is in a league of its own, nor would the US necessarily have to build that extensive a system).
The US has built large infrastructure before (see the Interstate Highways), and we are more than capable both physically and financially of building high speed rail. It’s just a matter of priorities, shifting some of the money from other modes of travel, namely freeways, toward building better rail options.
CH is Confederation Helvetica, also known as Switzerland. Now you know what those little oval plates on cars that say "CH" mean. 😂
@@danielcarroll3358 Thank you for pointing out the wrong abbreviation. I thought it was clear from the context though. And yes, I should know those signs. After all, all my cars used to have a neighboring D on them. One of mu motorcycles, that I brought with me, when I moved to the US still does.
@@ChrisJones-gx7fc They are literally an economic powerhouse and doing everything better than anyone else. Also instead of their past copying they are getting increasingly the drivers of technology. I hear many research papers are now coming from them. By the way, they are building their aviation, road infrastructure just as well as their rail. Their priorities are everywhere. Truly amazing. I am just giving credit where credit is due.
California has a great record on building high speed rail
I believe it when I see it. Perhaps another next two decades 🤔
@@alantran1914 They're doing better than every other state given no others are currently building ANY.
@TheRailwayDrone oh, yes! I know that, and I have been waiting since God, I don't know....and hardworking taxes money well spent lol 😆
@@alantran1914 China and Europe are more advanced than USA...they never complain about tax money spent.
It’s not like we can use any other country as an example
I was 5 when this was first started... nothing has been built, just lining pockets of friends and family's of politicians.
So what are you, 6 now?
@@Dnttou0497 this is the third time they tried this and it will fail again
@@RyanJohnson-pz4tb well of course it will. Americans can’t get anything of value done anymore.
Great a train moving scumbags around with normal, law abiding citizens through a vast wasteland. What could possibly go wrong?
It's not a waste land it's fucking nature you fucking incel go touch grass🙄
Leftist boondoggle. While Las Vegas is compact and the Strip is the only magnet, the Los Angeles area is way to vast for anyone living in 95% of the area to be able to practically make it to the rail station. Rich people fly, large families travel by car for the practicality of being able to bring stuff with them. They are not going to unload the car to load the train plus, buy everyone a ticket. The car is cheaper and imparts more flexibility.
$20 plane fare tickets from LAX to Vegas make this whole thing stupid.
I think high quality, clean, reliable public transport is impossible to achieve in America because our culture is too degenerate to have nice things. American people in general are not smart enough and do not have the moral character to share things like trains and busses without them turning into crime ridden, piss smelling cesspools. Moreover, we don’t have smart enough people to operate these systems efficiently.
Not sure if it’s even scarier that we allow all these brain dead Americans a drivers license, though.
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Needs to go to union station !
No needs to not happen
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 You -don't- think it should go to the most-used (by a HUGE measure) train origin point in Southern California ? Why not ?
@@amigajoe 1. existing old infrastructure. 2. no space to build in LA. 3. different tracks for highspeed than Metrolink.
@@vsznry Valid points, but not doing anything doesn't seems like an option. CA Highspeed rail will (theoretically) get there eventually, so they have expansion plans in place for that. It can be done - just a matter of money and political will
Yes. Because high crime, high rent, homelessness are nothing we need to worry about.
Alan Fisher should make a video about crime safe issues.
5 billion??!!
I dont support anything yhat benefits newsome on any level! He deserves no cooperation with anyone! He needs to be arrested for violating peoples constitutional rights!
$400 tickets? no problem!
The train station sounds like a great idea as long as it's not paid for with tax dollars somebody's going to profit from that train being there and whomever that is should pay for the damn thing not us
No it's terrible as someone born and raised here it's become shitty the more out of town cunts come here and the California cunts are the most unbearable
Politicians: How can we waste more money and take credit for a loss in revenue?
Worse they are bringing a foreign entity to sell the parts needed so the money goes to Germany instead of America. They don’t understand that the maintenance is very costly the borrowed money can’t be paid back do to costly maintenance and unexpected repairs. As if they don’t see New York and San Francisco broke do to such stupidity tactics.
Why is HSR waste money?
@@thomaskim5008People have doubts about the success of it, and if it will actually be completed.
Not much trust in the government or the public sector.
@@SunsetAssassin HSR connecting SF and LA is a mess but not the one that connecting LV and LA as it is constructed by the private company, not the government
@@thomaskim5008 Okay but that doesn't change the negative perception behind these work projects.
Maybe if this project is successful, enough people use it, and it runs efficiently the negative perception will go away.
Besides this and the Brightlight train in Florida (Miami to Orlando I believe), most trains are Amtrak and not enough Americans use it/support it to be molded into some form of HSR.
We can’t make normal speed rail work or build a rail line to the LV strip, yet somehow this is going to work.
there is a train but its slow and shares the route with freight
@@TheOfficialChillClan is it am track. I hadn’t heard of it
@@nvmcrider8475Actually, there currently is no Amtrak service from LA to Vegas. There used to be one years ago and I believe it was called the Desert Wind. It went from LA to Phoenix I believe with a stop in Vegas. The train station was in downtown Vegas which is still there, but not used.
Yes, because it won't rely on existing ROW that's controlled by private freight railroad companies that constantly block attempts at better passenger rail service.
we will never see these, the one running up and down california is so far over budget and way behind schedule
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit in that video.
More embezzlement by newsom
What’s a waste of money.
Nope. not really. A HUGE demographic would prefer the rail to the airline industry.
RMTransit says in that video it doesn’t need a profit.
Two letters B.S.
RMTransit says it doesn’t.
This is just dumb they will need to keep maintenance that doesn’t have revenue. Having any stop delays the reason of a speed train. That’s one good way to go broke, big cities borrow money for such projects but forget the up keep is costly.
Theyre gonna come steal in las vegas and leave back to california
High Speed Rail stations have four tracks and outside platforms. If a train is not stopping there it doesn't have to slow down. I've been on the platform many times waiting for my train when an express ran through at 187 mph on the inside tracks. The locals don't even look up from their newspapers.
Why would it not have revenue? In fact, it would create more revenue because you'll open an additional revenue stream from passengers from Central and Bay areas of California. And more people from LA would end up getting to Vegas via this connector than through Rancho Cucamonga because it would be a one seat ride from Union Station to Vegas.
Because remember RMTransit says in the video, it doesn’t need a profit.
This is the only track I wanted honestly
Good thing the corporations and politicians don't care about what YOU want 😂😂😂
@kinglokimrvegas8687 Oh no I cry /sarcasm
The train to meth land
Las Vegas to imperial valley to San Diego
Everyone says they ride trains overseas. But those places are tiny and dense in population. This is the American southwest. Open spaces
Trans-Siberian Railway 5,772 miles
Beijing-Moscow Railway 4,735 miles
Shanghai-Lhasa Railway 2,666 miles
California Zephyr 2,438 miles
Toronto-Vancouver Train 2,740 miles
Eastern and Oriental Express 1,262 miles
The Ghan 1,851 miles
Indian Pacific 2,704 miles
The Blue Train 994 miles
The Maharajas' Express 1,692 miles
The southwest was literally built on railroads, High Speed Rail actually makes more sense in the USA than a tram or a rapid-transit subway because of those wide open spaces between city centers (you can only go so fast with a car)
Also California is insanely dense, and thousands of people travel thru those corridors daily. One road shutdown causes a massive sh*tshow in those areas. Having another ground transportation option is a win
You must have failed geography, and obviously never been to Europe. Spoiler alert, it's not tiny.
@@ebeb516 None of those are High Speed Rail
@@gravanon1577 the original comment here did not mention HSR . It’s comparing overseas train systems to building train systems in the open spaces of the American SW. People assuming the US is too expansive to engineer a comprehensive country wide passenger rail system is wrong and IMO we should have been expanding and upgrading our rail systems as much as we do our highways and interstates. Obviously we want bullet trains any where it’s possible.
Lies lies lies look at how much money the steel and railroad industry has donated to the Democrat party in California. It's just to give them some of their money back 10x
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
Everything about this HSR touching CA is a money incinerator.30 years of plans in CA for SF to LA and they have no long straight runs to get up to speeds exceeding 100mph, and they go over the often closed/snowed in Grapevine throu Bakersfield and the central valley.
California High Speed Rail has MANY long and straight segments and will reach speeds of 220 mph. It also does not go through or anywhere near the Grapevine.
Try googling CAHSR and get some actual facts instead of using your limited imagination. Why comment about stuff you know absolutely nothing about? Lunacy!
@@mrxman581 Hey you are right. But CAHSR is a sunk cost fallacy. For 30 years I've seen maglev, hyperloop, three roughly proposed routes, nearly a billion spent on cows, elevated sections and rail vibrations disrupting endangered wildlife. The route is getting longer and longer, adding time and distance and while a train could do 200mph, that doesn't mean it will. We are a good 10-20 more years to some semblance of completion and the map you see today, is not going to be the final map.
@@20coconuts😂😂😂😂😂 all I know is we should not be connecting the 2 crappiest parts of the southwest its just a recipe for disaster
We've been saying we don't want it for years now. Add more lanes to the 15 and focus on something important.
Nah.
@@thetrainguy1 I'll give you a thumbs up, because you are the trainguy
With all the extra stops it means it’s not going to work. These people seem to forget why big cities went broke. Carry on the lonely journey of stupidity. Waste money to waste money that really works.
How do you it doesn’t work?
High Speed Rail stations have four tracks and outside platforms. If a train is not stopping there it doesn't have to slow down. I've been on the platform many times waiting for my train when an express ran through at 187 mph on the inside tracks. The locals don't even look up from their newspapers.
This comment is from the people that brought you adding another lane to the highway will surely fix the traffic issue
Obviously you've never taken a HSR train or familiar with the concept of pass through tracks at train stations. Google it.
It will never happen. All the money is already spent on consultants, you will never ride on a train in your lifetime.
Well RMTransit said in that video, it doesn’t need a profit.
@@DanielRidgewell No one said anything about profit. The whole project is a massive boondogle. It is a massive fraud upon the public. Same as the Simpsons and the monorail episode.
High speed rail is a giant hole to pour money into. Never completed, disrupts local residents, costs 10 times estimated. Bad idea.
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
Yes but please make it stop somewhere cool like national parks not the literal garbage can of America aka Vegas
You mean la 😂 Vegas isn't to bad it used to be better until our government here wanted to act like the retarded cunts from CA and it all went to shit because they fled ca like the refugees they are
We make fun of other countries, but fact is Europe / Asia is 50 decades ahead in high-speed train. make fun of China? they have 150+ MPH trains. our Amtrak delay's is normal - ask anyone taken Amtrak.
SLEEPY JOE!!!
Brightline is the only group that will get done on time. The Non High speed train to no where but Fresno will take another 20 years and another $100 B to complete. Newsum's folly.
Another project, another waste of fund BS speed rail
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
That’s why California went broke. And that’s why Big cities went broke the maintenance will cause them not to make revenue or pay back the borrowed money. That foreign guy doesn’t know what’s good for our country just look at what he’s doing? He went over to a random desert area where someone painted rocks in a desert. Like you are just a lost soul ~ the blocking of other trains will not make it easier. Foreign people have no clue of what they are saying let alone think of the best interest for our country. Everyone has cars and nobody will use that train unless you’re homeless.
You need to travel more outside the US to get a clue about how much more advanced other country's transit infrastructure is today. We were the best in the 60s and 70s, but then we stopped and we got left behind.
RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
That will just make it easier for Californians to flee the state forever. The low income people have a way to leave. They will not have to rent A U haul. A great way for the homeless to expand there criminal endeavors. That's exactly what happened in San Francisco. The East Bay criminals just jump on a Bart train they are in downtown San Francisco committing crimes. They returned to the East Bay before the sun goes down.🤔
You over estimate how much they make pan handling and shit 😂😂😂 tickets for this will be 400$ I don't think many can afford it and honestly it shouldn't be being built
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 the criminals don't pay to take BART to San Francisco. Why would they pay to take a train to Las Vegas? California already has a super train that completion is questionable. I'm with you they should not build this train at least with taxpayer money.
@@dane9175 Adam Something: Just build a damn train.
From San Diego so illegals can be moved quickly to other cities
Thank you joe Biden
What does Joe Biden have to do with this. This announcement was about a California project and even if it was Federal then you could thank Congress for it because only Congress can authorize spending and all Federal spending originates in the House of Representatives. Get that orange kool-aid out of your brain and rejoin the real world.
He bankrupted our country and this project will have many problems and the maintenance is expensive. They won’t make revenue. Biden has completely destroyed America. Do you not see why big cities are broke? For making such projects and not taking to account the maintenance cost.
Thank you Trump aka convicted felon
Yes, indeed. A real president who finally got a significant transportation bill passed.
christian fascists wont do any better.
I always love California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
In my dreams anything is possible. Ten years ago They were supposed to be done near Fresno.
@@richspillman4191According to whom? CAHSR started construction in 2015. The measure was passed in 2008.
@@mrxman581 it will never be completed, the money has run out, they are nowhere near being completed, even the test part is still years away.
@@richspillman4191RMTransit says it doesn’t need a profit.
@@DanielRidgewell No one mentioned anything about profit, or even prophet. I will make a prediction though, the project will cost at least 3 times more than it was expected to and it will be ten years overdue. Never trust a politician, or a rail salesman.