Heihachi was Broken beyond Belief in Tekken 3

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @OathOfRevenge
    @OathOfRevenge Před 9 měsíci +61

    Couple things to add:
    - Whiffing 4~3 stuns you and does 10 damage to yourself. They removed this starting from Tekken 4, but you can hold down after 4~3 on whiff to get the same stun!
    - Even with their pushback, ff2, d12 and df12 aren't safe against the whole cast
    - There's a secret version of ff3 that launches on normal hit, it's ffn3 😉 It does 2 less damage and you get a guaranteed d4 stomp
    - Doing the just frame uf34 on a blocking opponent makes the second hit unblockable (same for all the hunting hawk variations in the game)
    - Remember to set the training dummy to "Quick Roll" (either up or down), most of the combos you're doing at the end are not real

    • @Zakillah
      @Zakillah Před 9 měsíci +6

      Good list.
      I might add that I'm 99% certain that d+1 doesnt hit grounded on normal characters.
      Dont test ground hits on Jack. :D

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +14

      thanks a lot for the info bro

    • @Kaiya134
      @Kaiya134 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I played this game online for like 15 years and I never knew about ffn3. My mind is blown

    • @anticharlie1
      @anticharlie1 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@Kaiya134online? How?

    • @k00ij
      @k00ij Před 9 měsíci

      ​@Kaiya134 iirc the first tekken to be playable online was tekken 5 💁‍♂️

  • @nebby9751
    @nebby9751 Před 9 měsíci +23

    It really speaks the utterly lawless badlands that Tekken used to be, that you could be as broken as T3 Heihachi and still not be top 3 in the roster 😂

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd Před 8 měsíci +5

      Everyone was broken in T3. True Ogre, Ogre, Kuma/Panda, Paul, Heihachi , Brian..Dr. B( in the right hands), Gon(in the right hands)..where ALL top Tier broken

  • @TheMeetymeet
    @TheMeetymeet Před 9 měsíci +16

    Heihachi with the coat was peak.

  • @Steambull1
    @Steambull1 Před 9 měsíci +43

    Tekken 3 put Heihachi and Paul on another level of fun. Anyway, yeah, the damage of Tekken 3 is so complicated that it can be really hard to lab staple combos and figure out max damage options. You can do seemingly the same combo and get 4 different damage values, ranging A LOT. There are the "Clean hit" cases, but that's not all, distances can affect the damage in all kinds of ways.

    • @crack4184
      @crack4184 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Tekken 3 was so drunk at times

  • @sebhoward6674
    @sebhoward6674 Před 9 měsíci +11

    I remember heihachi having the Paul death fist and hammer punch animations. But Paul’s death fist had a longer reach and quote me if I’m wrong but Paul’s version did more damage I think! I cannot believe how well and in depth you document the older games and expose how broken they were compared to TKN today!👍🤜🤛❤️

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci +2

      You are correct in that Paul's deathfist did more damage but other than that the moves were identical.

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 Před 9 měsíci +10

    2:05 the second hit of the just frame UF3,4 is **unblockable**

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      I see^^

    • @highoctanesynx7950
      @highoctanesynx7950 Před 9 měsíci

      WHAT?

    • @strykah92
      @strykah92 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@highoctanesynx7950 *sits you down by the campfire*
      Once upon a time in Tekken, there was no such thing as guard protection...

  • @Leadblast
    @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci +5

    There are lots of things you got wrong.
    His d+1 does not hit grounded on normal characters. That works only on big characters. Gunjack is considered a big.
    His f,f+3 and f,f,N+3 are different. f,f+3 causes fallback stun on CH, f,f,N+3 is the same as regular Mishima f,f+3 (knockdown on hit into combo).
    WGF is not safe. I'm fairly certain that it is barely -10, but it most certainly can be punished by a low jab which is 8f for all characters.

  • @rmnhn
    @rmnhn Před 9 měsíci +5

    Heihachi is the Tekken equivalent of Vince McMahon.

  • @xenobroly0062
    @xenobroly0062 Před 9 měsíci +43

    Imagine Tekken 7 Heihachi had these moves 😭😭😭

    • @sadetwizelve
      @sadetwizelve Před 9 měsíci +2

      Wouldn't matter,mishimas are always o.p.

    • @xenobroly0062
      @xenobroly0062 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@sadetwizelve that is not entirely true Tekken 6 speaks otherwise

    • @sadetwizelve
      @sadetwizelve Před 9 měsíci +1

      @xenobroly0062 there was never a tekken where mishimas were below A tier.

    • @xenobroly0062
      @xenobroly0062 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@sadetwizelve you’re talking about tiers and I’m talking about moves two different topics. You can be a good character but have some moves that are really bad

    • @ametozukumazu6073
      @ametozukumazu6073 Před 9 měsíci +8

      ​@@sadetwizelveT6 Heihachi and Kazuya, T5/DR Jin, T7 S2-3 Heihachi. Maximum B tier.
      And, no, it would definitely matter. T3 - Tag era was insane.

  • @user-zz3bs8mi2c
    @user-zz3bs8mi2c Před 9 měsíci +8

    I'm a big Tekken fan which is my favorite fighting game ever. Just wanted to say thanks for the good content and keeping the legacy of the game alive with this informative and fun info. Salutes from Dominican Republic.

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      glad you like my content^^

  • @BSJINTHEHOUSE420
    @BSJINTHEHOUSE420 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Heihachi in T8 when he’s released as DLC:

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I really hope so

    • @rivendzi
      @rivendzi Před 7 měsíci

      Reina is going to resurrect him somehow, you heard that first here. 😋

    • @dreadalex
      @dreadalex Před 6 měsíci

      Maybe as a cyber bot. Cyhachi

  • @TheOnlyPersona
    @TheOnlyPersona Před 9 měsíci +3

    Your content is bite sized and digestible and you present it so interestingly. Also in a niche that not a lot of people are doing. Really great stuff! One of my favorite tekken channels by far

  • @JunKazamaFan
    @JunKazamaFan Před 9 měsíci +3

    Reina needs to get that pimp coat as an unlockable costume.

  • @BlasianRobot
    @BlasianRobot Před 9 měsíci +4

    He was in the prime of his human lifespan. 😂 insane

  • @vinceamaro1382
    @vinceamaro1382 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Heihachi's unblockable, Lightning Hammer, can track opponents who tech roll after a juggle. This was removed in Tekken 6.

    • @christianruffin1342
      @christianruffin1342 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Not to mention if you hold back just as the opponent does a right kick, he automatically does a reversal (which does hurt, but it really hurts your opponent).

  • @galanoth619
    @galanoth619 Před 9 měsíci +6

    thanks for more tekken 3 content
    just to correct on some things d+1 didnt hit grounded opponents only the big hitbox ones like jack and bears.
    also df1+2 was absolutely not safe and even launch punishable by some characters like law(jin can punish with ff2)

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      thanks for the info bro^^

  • @katherynlee2421
    @katherynlee2421 Před 9 měsíci +3

    That's why I keep winning against my cousins, brother and sisters, because he's broken as fuck. Lol

  • @victorespisoler9117
    @victorespisoler9117 Před 9 měsíci

    Tekken 3 was my first tekken as kid.
    Heihachi defeated me 9 CONSECUTIVE TIMES.. I was a rookie but only King defeated me before.
    After Heihachi the Ogre round was a JOKE to me.. I defeated him easily.

  • @musclebear
    @musclebear Před 9 měsíci +1

    Tekken 3 was the best and most innovative in the series. Still play it now over Tekken 7 which is nothing like how Tekken used to be

  • @Onscreenmoon
    @Onscreenmoon Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just the fact that his hellsweep doesn’t block stagger gave me hemorrhoids.

  • @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4
    @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4 Před 9 měsíci +1

    So so true! I remember him! The standing twin pistons in particular so op and obviously the hellsweeps, the ff2 and on top id that mid electric ⚡
    Excellent video as always man 👍👍

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      thanks bro

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci +1

      He didn't have electric in T3 😂yet

    • @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4
      @GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Leadblast ikr only Jin had but hey tbh I prefer the old school mid WGF over the high EWGF we have nowadays 😅

  • @JunKazamaFan
    @JunKazamaFan Před 9 měsíci +2

    Tekken 3 is the only game where Heihachi can do a Demon Uppercut out of the hellsweeps. Guess they thought it was redundant with the existence of the Dragon Uppercut ender. Still a fun option to mess around with, though.

  • @Robert-nl3fd
    @Robert-nl3fd Před 8 měsíci

    Heihachi's B2 on CH was brutally broken as well. It knocked opps backwards into FFF+ range, it gave you PLENTY of breathing room in a fight, ESPECIALLY during a tight game of Tekken Force

  • @kt4
    @kt4 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is where I start maining Heihachi ⚡

  • @raidennc
    @raidennc Před 9 měsíci

    A few omissions/inaccuracies
    D+1 only hit bigs on the ground in T3. T4 is the first and only game where it hit everyone grounded
    The first hit of his hellsweep was special mid/special low and could be blocked standing. So while his wgf was mid he didnt have a low to mix it with

  • @theirfinestbean4730
    @theirfinestbean4730 Před 9 měsíci

    Loving this direction of content brother, keep it up 👊🏼👊🏼

  • @G_Travel99
    @G_Travel99 Před 9 měsíci

    True MID WGF
    damn, live was good in T3

  • @chrishipop5
    @chrishipop5 Před 9 měsíci

    T3 soundtrack is so damn good

  • @devonh117
    @devonh117 Před 9 měsíci

    the sound of his df1 hitting is hilarious

  • @TooOldToPlay401
    @TooOldToPlay401 Před 9 měsíci

    Been waiting for this one❤

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      hope you enjoyed it^^

  • @toilethead1011
    @toilethead1011 Před 9 měsíci

    I believe d+1 only hits grounded consistently if you've got a large opponent like Jack or True Ogre. It hits alright on the side angles but doesn't really hit medium or small characters if they're lying clean on their feet or head. That said, WGF among other things, does actually hit grounded large opponents. If they don't techroll, f,f+1+2 WGF is a thing.

  • @illiahryhorak5860
    @illiahryhorak5860 Před 9 měsíci

    Very deep "Oh YEAH!"

  • @foreveruseless1292
    @foreveruseless1292 Před 9 měsíci

    Back when his iron palm was a deathfist lol

  • @MegaO2Jammer
    @MegaO2Jammer Před 9 měsíci

    0:51 "It completely hits grounded" with the exception of Mokujin, which somehow he cannot hit while Mokujin's grounded

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci

      Not just Mokujin... all normal size characters when grounded don't get hit by his d+1. Only big characters do.

    • @MegaO2Jammer
      @MegaO2Jammer Před 9 měsíci

      @@Leadblast Nina and Eddy can get hit while they're grounded. I don't know about the other non-bigs though.

  • @AndreyOrochi
    @AndreyOrochi Před 9 měsíci

    Ooooh good old b2❤❤❤❤

  • @GNF_cao
    @GNF_cao Před 9 měsíci

    Nice hei t8 dlc previews

  • @IsBeyond
    @IsBeyond Před 9 měsíci

    Hoochi in his prime

  • @PrinceBiggiePotato
    @PrinceBiggiePotato Před 9 měsíci

    is this the ps1 version? i noticed the similar stage in tekken tag 1 and tekken tag 2 the school infinite stage i never saw that stage in my ps1 when i was a kid

  • @counthyuga1449
    @counthyuga1449 Před 9 měsíci

    He needed it

  • @titanoboris
    @titanoboris Před 9 měsíci

    wavedash looks clunky, prolly do it without wave dash to emphasize on the moves more

  • @Usama77504
    @Usama77504 Před 9 měsíci

    Imagine if heiachi has 13 frame launcher in Tekken 7 😱😱

  • @Shibu_PL
    @Shibu_PL Před 9 měsíci

    Do a video on T3 Yoshimitsu. His flash was a true unblockable in that game, had much better range and it could deal like 40 damage. Broken beyond belief lol.

    • @strykah92
      @strykah92 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Flash had markedly worse range compared to modern Tekkens, it was i5 however. Other notable stuff Yoshi had in T3 was his DF2, absurd reach (can even punish deathfist at most ranges and only -1 on block), fubuki knee that could be done at i7, disjointed hurtbox on DF4, and MID hitting poison mist.
      And on a trivial note, Yoshi in T3 also had the coolest side throw in Tekken history. 🗿

    • @Shibu_PL
      @Shibu_PL Před 9 měsíci

      @@strykah92Yeah, that side throw blew my mind when I was a kid. I still remember when my friend showed it to me when I was like 13 years old lol.

  • @theolanderdilag3872
    @theolanderdilag3872 Před 9 měsíci

    1:40
    Should we tell them?
    Should we really tell them?

  • @gdvanish7145
    @gdvanish7145 Před 9 měsíci +1

    So basicly everything he does is safe 😂

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      df 1 2 is launch punishable

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci +1

      df+1,2 twin pistons is horrendously launch punishable, other moves like f,f+2 or deathfist are safe or not depending on matchup

    • @gdvanish7145
      @gdvanish7145 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@mwkan772oh I see👍

  • @PadPoet
    @PadPoet Před 9 měsíci

    Heihachi peaked in Tekken 3!

  • @xtlntdx5091
    @xtlntdx5091 Před 9 měsíci +1

    i mean really what were the rules when making a character in those times?

    • @sebhoward6674
      @sebhoward6674 Před 9 měsíci

      There was only one rule? There was no rules!!!🤣🤣🤣

  • @Gurvind
    @Gurvind Před 9 měsíci

    The big man got older and weaker after this. :(

  • @Isaac-ry3ks
    @Isaac-ry3ks Před 9 měsíci

    Can you do a law video?

  • @AM19x
    @AM19x Před 9 měsíci

    Heihachi was not broken, his attacks has more damage & range but movements are slow, some characers has more speed but less range & less damage, some has more damage but less styles , some has more range & speed but less damage.. in my opinion the only broken character in tekken 3 was Paul, he had better range, better damage & better speed.

  • @-_-Copycat-_-
    @-_-Copycat-_- Před 9 měsíci

    The movement is even better then Tekken 7

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      it is

    • @galanoth619
      @galanoth619 Před 9 měsíci

      not even a comparison
      heihachis side step in tekken 3 covers 3 times more distance than his tekken 7 side step
      and of course backdash cancel was way better too

  • @ruianduk3754
    @ruianduk3754 Před 9 měsíci

    did ever think by everybody that we maining our char because it S tear back in the day, Hei in tekken 3 was as shown in the video, compare it to hei T7. still strong but you need more effort to use him.
    i think usage statistic is true.

  • @soroshbt2841
    @soroshbt2841 Před 9 měsíci

    Ff3 will launch if delay in ff then press 3
    Ff*3

  • @flanderszao
    @flanderszao Před 9 měsíci

    Really, the order of bosses in TK3 is messed up
    The hardest boss comes first, and the easier last

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      and there's so much stuff people don't know about it..especially doctor b

  • @mr-r1999
    @mr-r1999 Před 9 měsíci

    What does i15 mean? Awesome video btw!

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci +1

      15 frames

    • @mr-r1999
      @mr-r1999 Před 9 měsíci

      But what does "i" stands for? Thanks

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      i means speed I think

    • @maxmercurythemm827
      @maxmercurythemm827 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@mr-r1999 The i stands for impact, because the move "impacts" (aka hits) at frame 15. Japan and its weird shit...

    • @UltimateBallaPOM
      @UltimateBallaPOM Před 9 měsíci

      ​​@@maxmercurythemm827
      Giant Swing in neutral is i15 but 10f
      Electrics are i14 but 11f

  • @taylorbee4010
    @taylorbee4010 Před 9 měsíci

    He has a just frame wgf

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      I see

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast Před 9 měsíci

      Not in T3. Hei's WGF is just a WGF. Jin does have a "justframe WGF" but it doesn't even launch. He also has EWGF.

  • @hassanhafiz44
    @hassanhafiz44 Před 9 měsíci

    Next time don't try things on Jack. Specially grounded and range related attacks.

  • @moneydemand1150
    @moneydemand1150 Před 9 měsíci

    Didnt realize how strong heihachi was in tekken 3 😂

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd Před 8 měsíci

      He made Tekken Force an absolute breeze

    • @moneydemand1150
      @moneydemand1150 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Robert-nl3fd 😂

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd Před 8 měsíci

      It was ridiculous. True Ogre took up half the screen during Tekken Force...and his snake arm took up most of the rest

    • @moneydemand1150
      @moneydemand1150 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Robert-nl3fd true ogre was to dang big 😂

    • @Robert-nl3fd
      @Robert-nl3fd Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@moneydemand1150 It was funny af, to bathe each level in fire😆. Totally brutal

  • @belvet2324
    @belvet2324 Před 9 měsíci +2

    mid godfist

  • @rakeshpriyanka154
    @rakeshpriyanka154 Před 9 měsíci

    Bro talking like only he was broken in tekken 3, mate it was game of brokens😂

  • @sadetwizelve
    @sadetwizelve Před 9 měsíci

    Another video showing how cheap any o.p. mishimas have always been.

    • @crack4184
      @crack4184 Před 9 měsíci +1

      He was in the same game as Ogre dude

    • @ametozukumazu6073
      @ametozukumazu6073 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@crack4184Dude has something personal against Mishimas. Calling Mishimas or any character cheap because they are insanely good/bad in T3 is kinda...

  • @chidubem826
    @chidubem826 Před 8 měsíci

    Lol Brokken 3

  • @lorentsenjr
    @lorentsenjr Před 9 měsíci

    He wasn't even top tier xD

  • @somesandman8328
    @somesandman8328 Před 9 měsíci

    No view gang

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  Před 9 měsíci

      thanks a lot for the support bro^^

  • @arasseo_wakarimashita3904
    @arasseo_wakarimashita3904 Před 4 měsíci

    All knockdown lows in Tekken 3 has no stagger when guarded. You need to block the entire string of hellsweep