@@Ikirus it doesn’t matter, evil doesn’t have to come from malice. It can come from cold calculated logic, from love, from desire of self preservation. An Ai preemptively exterminating its creators out of desire to preserve its future expansion is evil, despite not having any malice, so is a serial killer who doesn’t feel empathy. Demons are not an animal which merely kills to eat and survive, they lose this card because they are fully intelligent, sentient creatures with pattern recognition and ability to concoct complex plans. Their absolute disregard for the life of fellow sentient creatures is what makes them pure evil.
@@Walsinats4 I believe what you're referring to is that it's refreshing to see an unsympathetic monster in an era where every villain has to have a relatable point to preach
A detail about the "proposal" stance of frieren and himmel vs fern and stark is the background, with fern and stark the background is a window, with frieren and himmel there's a clock, not just in the background but framed In-between the two, for me this represents how fern and stark have a real opportunity to something and while you would think himmel and frieren are the same there's something in between the two that they can't overcome, Time.
Also the item that symbolized fern and stark were wristband, even fern's were bloomed lotus. We know what lotus meant in their world, and fern's will bloomed. While frieren received lotus bud, unbloomed, ring from himmel, without giving himmel any ring from hers😢 Ps : symbol of marriage in asia rarely rings, often we use tokens like wristband between husband-wife, because it symbolizes being bound together for life. Even more so in the case of lover's suicides. And in east asia, red-knot tied between faithed lovers often tied in their pinky fingers, that jilted lover often cut their pinky finger as to cursed the one that cheated.😂
I love the gentle atmosphere of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. I love how nuanced the show is in it's characters, worldbuilding etc. Also how it can go from quiet slice-of-life to epic battle sequences and still feel tonally consistent. Also Frieren makes funny faces.
mana suppression is kinda like hiding your existence and pretend you are weak. normal human mage and demon will both also “hide their mana” but don’t suppress them but for different reason. flame explained why demon only hidden but not suppress. while series explained human’s reason.
Exactly! Suppressing your mana completely is used by both humanoids and demons to hide your presence and be stealthy 30:00 What Flamme and Frieren do that is 'disgraceful' is suppressing your mana partially, making you seem weaker Im DBZ terms, what Flamme and Frieren do basically gives them a "this isn't even my final form" advantage in battle
i felt like it was covered pretty well in the anime. mana for demons essentially says if theyre a noble or not, which while sneaking out to pretend your a commoner is fine and normal, no one wants to give up their status forever. its considered a dirty trick for humans as well as demons because mages estimate fights based on another persons mana, no one would get into a fight with someone with a lot of mana if they have none. its pretty much saying youll fight fair and then kicking sand into their eyes when you start
Mana concealment is like hiding in the bushes. Mana suppression is like hobbling around on a cane everywhere you go, pretending to be disabled. It’s more deceitful.
I'm 19 minutes in the video and I just want to share this... One of the most subtle throwback reaction/moment I've seen from frieren was when they discovered the hidden room with the untouched mural in the Ruins of the King's Tomb. They showed Fern's face with amazement of the mural, after which, then showed Frieren's which didn't show much interest or emotion towards it but when she noticed Fern having fun/smiling, she also smiled and enjoyed it along with her which was a throwback from Frieren when she watched the new year's sunrise in around episode 4(I think). It was very very brief but it showed her character and how she's growing/learning to understand humanity.
@@TotaraumTo each his own 😂 but the show "shows" more than telling despite the amount of dialogues(which isn't actually a lot but are appropriately paced for when to "tell" or when to "show"). Like how the trios wardrobe changes for more weather appropriate climate and how Sein keeps his clothes the same despite the abundance of snow. Or how Wirbel's eye twitches for a single frame when he heard Fern say she killed Ehre. It balances conversations/exposition and showing expressions/scenes to give it more depth and give characters their own life. Keiichiro Saito knows emotions and characters much like how he directed Bocchi The Rock. Also, love the vid! Keep on giving us the good stuff!
@@TotaraumI thought it was more a callback to Ferns conversation with Sense. Fern says the main reason she studies magic and journeys is because doing so makes Frieren happy, which makes fern happy. Frieren watching Fern in the kings tomb happens the same episode and I think shows that actually, for Frieren, ferns joy is also a key motivator. It shows how in sync they are and how much they care about each other. I (platonically) ship it. I love stark/fern romantically but Frieren and Fern are the most important to each other… I want them to travel together forever 😢😢
29:59 Sierie said it herself, it takes centuries to be actually useful and in those centuries, you could have studied something else that's more useful, assuming you're still alive. And Sierie is also a big tsundere, she does it too despite saying that, lol.
I've seen so many people constantly miss this, and that demons do hide their mana just fine, just as anyone else can try to hide their mana. in fact the act of hiding your mana seems to be relatively simple, the difference is that frieren, fern, and flamme (+serie) are doing it all of the time. Trying to think of a good analogy, but the closest I can think of would be like.... writing in a style for a mirror. Completely useless skill, hard as hell to probably learn, could have probably focused on learning an entirely new language rather than how to write your own language in mirror, but in some very specific situations, could definitely be useful, and surprising as hell.
I think Totaraum missed something else. He said that demons can't detect mana concealment. But they can, they do see fluctuations in mana. The only mages we know they can't detect is Serie, Flamme, Frieren, and Fern because their fluctuations are so minor. But there are likely talented enough demons who can see through even them. When Flamme told Frieren that mana concealment is dishonorable, that only applies to the rare permanent mana concealment. Demons can't imagine permanently concealing their mana, because they would be permanently accepting a lower social status in their society. During the time of Flamme, I think the only powerful mages were elves and demons. Even powerful human mages may find dishonor in permanent mana concealment if they have pride in their own mana amount. Her statement makes sense with that context. Most modern mages don't care because they don't love magic for the sake of magic. For demons and other powerful mages, they live for magic.
Frieren is the first newly-airing anime I've managed to finish in at least five years. I was just as impacted by it as you; I'm currently editing my own review of the show, and I just want to say: I think yours is the most in-depth and highest quality I've seen so far. Also, I commend you for waiting until the anime actually finished airing before making it - I was also bothered by just how many reviews were published before the show even finished. Great job, my dude!
Thank you, I appreciate it! Best of luck with your review, I’m sure it’s gonna be good. Honestly I was curious so I checked out your channel and I’ve been listening to the chrono trigger video for the last 20 minutes while starting my day lol. It’s very well made and fun to listen to
@@Totaraum Thanks, man; I'm glad to hear you liked one of my videos! I'm gonna check out the rest of your stuff when I get the chance, but based off this one review, I have to say: you're really good. Your analysis is on point and your sense of humor is quite enjoyable; you seem to know exactly where to place each joke to perfectly transition into each of your next talking points. I wish your channel nothing but the best going forward!
There’s a bunch of good anime that’s been released in the past 5 years. Apothecary Diaries, Delicious in Dungeon (currently airing), Made in Abyss, etc.
29:50 Concealing mana long term is what Flamme and Frieren were talking about. It isn't dishonorable to use stealth. But to hide it forever is to have no pride as a mage. Literally, only 4 mages in the entire series do this. And all 4 are of the same line of mages. Flamme, her master, Frieren, and Fern. Other mages "supress" their mana to get off sneak attacks or hide from others using mana detection. But to them it is like holding their breath. Temporary and straining. And of the entire cast only 3 people have seen through Frieren's concealment. So we have yet to see what a "normal" mage would think of it in the modern era. But we can assume that most would find it unpraiseworthy as Flamme stated. Like a dude with a trust fund panhandling on the street for fun.
To put in simpler words: Most mages suppress their mana completely for stealth. But Frieren, Fern, Serie and Flamme suppress it partially to trick others. Lugner considers it sacrilegious, Serie finds it a low-priority direction, but Frieren and Flamme find it extremely effective because their goal is to kill demons by any means.
I've seen SO many Frieren videos but yours is the most comprehensive in terms of distilling what makes the show good. Any good work of art elicits an emotional response, and for Frieren its a good, peaceful, cathartic feeling. And in this era of prevalent toxicity and cynicism in social media, we need it more than ever.
Serie describes why conceiling mana is down right stupid and getting it as efficient as Frieren. It takes over 200 years to perfect it, so for most mages (and demons), they use it only to sneak up on someone, but then releases the pressure. There is a reason why Fern is concidered a monster, since she has way too good of stability for a human and adding on that she uses standard spells to perfection. Hunter x Hunter has a similar thing with Nen and in both show it makes you stronger since it basically like tensing up your muscles constantly.
Fantastic video! I just have one tiny nitpick: Frieren doesn't hate geniuses. The reason why she initially dislikes Sein is not because he's incredibly gifted, but rather because she sees her own former self in him - someone who feels like their chance to make something of their life has slipped through their fingers, and has thus resigned themselves a quiet life of numb unfulfillment, never making the effort to take that step to change their situation and try again. _That's_ what Frieren means when she says that they're the same. It's not because they're both geniuses (though they are), it's because they were both okay with giving up and not trying again. It's because she dislikes her old self that she dislikes seeing Sein like that. And it's for that reason that she was so determined to _help_ him take that step, just like Himmel once did for her.
Dancing Golem is in episode 5 when Stark asks Frieren why does she want the spell that is in Solar Dragon's nest. So I watched around 100 of those essays on Frieren (I'm just beginning yours) - 1 thing I have to say, almost all of them talked about the world ;)
It’s been a very long time, since a show taught me anything but I learnt that even if it’s a day or a week or an hour, spend the time with people and things that you love because time slips fast, and you never got it back🧡
A small youtuber doing an hour long essay that's actually this good written and well thought is unheard of really. I hope this video blows up bro! You deserve it and so does Frieren deserve even more attention and recognition (yes I know it already has plenty already, but no matter what happens, this show will always deserve even more).
29:43 I see the confusion here. Frieren and Flamme(and as we find out at the end of the show, Serie) are literally constantly suppressing their magic at every moment of every day. This is different from the typical Mana suppression that any old mage uses, which is just for stealth. That’s just so other mages don’t detect their presence in a fight. Whereas Frieren’s constant mana suppression is an extraordinarily difficult that requires constant vigilance, and the only benefit that it provides is your opponent underestimates you. Demons don’t hate mana suppression as a whole, the show states that even they use the typical stealth kind, however Demons can easily tell when one is just temporarily suppressing their mana, but can’t tell something’s off with Frieren and Flamme, because they are constantly suppressing their mana. Demon society is based on a strong rule the weak mindset, so the idea of pretending you’re weaker than you truly are goes completely against anything and everything demons are. So the demons would never suspect what Frieren and Flamme are doing, so the demons think they’re stronger and try to kill them, and it’s easier to hunt the demons when they come to you. So that’s probably why they look on their mana suppression with such shame. It is a ludicrously difficult technique to learn and they do it for the sole reason that it makes killing demons easier. A sort of physical manifestation of their obsessive hatred for demons.
Friern and flamme tjem self dont see it as shame... other mages do. They wotk thier whole life for the magic they use and dont supress it. Its like a badge of honor. But what flamme and frieren are doing goes completly against that. For a human mage the magic they have is thier pride they would never supress it only if needed in a mission
Frieren was the less painful version of To Your Eternity which covers more of what makes someone human. Immortal stories can be hard to write and Frieren focuses more on what makes life worth living and I love it for it.
frieren is what id hoped to your Eternity would be when it first started. id lost interest after season 1, i hope frieren gets another beautiful season
I've had a friend who's been asking me to watch Frieren ever since it released and is obsessed with it to this day, getting to watch an hour of Totaraum rave about it seems like a good push to finally start the show when I get the time
As a West Coast swing dancer who started dancing just so I would stop flinching at any kind of physical touch (it worked, I completely broke through that problem), once I decided I actually wanted to be good at it, it still took me, like an entire year to get good. Partner dancing takes so much work and practice and focus, even if you're just trying to get good enough to do it socially for fun.
I'm feeling exactly like you buddy. I was hooked so hard for this show that almost hurt rewatch and remember The lessons across The anime. I'm from Brazil and tried a lot share this anime to have anyone to talk about it but anyway Im really happy to see your vídeo saying what i want to say to all the world about this masterpiece. If exist a religion who the leader was himmel i trully want be a evangelist, because frieren remember us all about how to live and this is truly precious! Its atemporal, certain beyound any rank or shonen culture of comparison between main characters, its much deep than this. Its a anime for the people who understand the meaning and take him has the masterpiece that he is and for the people who doesnot understand yet its a peak of animation with all the kind of things we want to see, humor, fanservice done right (ubeeel armpit and serie foot hummyyy hahaha lop), amazing battles and a smooth and gentle journey, a perfect storytelling that make him a 10/10 anime to any reviewer.
The Reason concealing your mana is seen as a bad thing by humanity is because it takes so long to learn, when one could use that time learning other spells. Fern has been learning it pretty much from age 6 (I think? At the age Frieren take Fern as a apprentice) and thus she only knows very few spells (Pretty sure she only knows basic offensive and basic defensive magic)
@@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Indeed. But to me who grew up on TV in the 90's that didn't have ads, but rented foreign (mostly American) shows that had ads in them - it's kind of normal to notice such stuff. The fact that I only noticed this one as "obvious" almost speaks to the talent of hiding said stuff by creators. And they had so, so, so much work to do (they had to keep up quality, while also outsourcing couple of episodes - including this one I think) that if this is the biggest problem that Anime has - that it doesn't have version for TV and version for streaming - then I'm all for it! I wish I could watch something great and have the fact that it "only" has 1 version be my biggest worry 🤣. Still probably valid. But then you also get into streaming rights, fact that it is translated so fast and also it would probably be the streaming services job to make the cut.
I've never been this in awe of a creative piece of media since, well feels like ever. Hope Frieren sustains it's superb quality and has a well written ending.
6:42 I doubt you will see this but The way Frieren uses magic not for her hatred of demons only its that she learned from Flamme on how to fight demons no other entity was fighting like this before her and none since because Frieren never took on any apprentices. Fern is the first entity in 100 years to start fighting like this because Heiter only knew that to help her train as a mage which he learned from Frieren. So it comes full circle why Fern is so good and why Serie wants her because shes been training since shes a child while most Humans Serie took most likely were already 30+ for her to even notice. This was way longer then I thought it be but thats just how nuanced the show is when one little detail changes it effects everyone and their actions. Also the other Mages are not concealing their mana 24/7 thats what Fern and Frieren are doing. They can conceal their mana 24/7 but it takes time and is a skill that does not help them very much so to dedicate the time needed seems useless to them. The reason it is useless is how are you going to get "known" for learning a skill to keep a low profile? It so well done
Also about mana suppression. Fern is a natural-born genius at mana control. It was stated on multiple occasions that it would take a century or more for a normal mage to learn to do it all the time w/o being noticeable. That means literally every human mage born w/o exceptional natural talent can't learn it to an appreciable level. So Denken the geezer is right that it is useless. He would literally be dead before he got good enough to pass muster. Much less fool someone like Frieren. On top of that, as said, Mana concealment like what Frieren does is fundamentally a different skill than what you talk about mages doing in the modern era which is hide their mana completely for brief moments. Fern's skill in hiding from perception is what won against the mirror match. Not her skill at only looking like she has 20% of her actual mana even while sleeping.
Stark putting on his jacket goes so hard! Im glad someone else noticed too lol. I get that he's best boy, but yhere was no reason it had to look THAT good!
Man, been watching you since 3-4 years when you did the first few clannad vids. You still give out nice reviews and insights, great interpretations too.
I knew i wasn't the only one to noticed that Frieren's soundtrack have the same vibe with Monster Hunter. Certain tracks sounds straight out of MH: Iceborne.
You mention the music knows exactly when to do what it needs to for the scene... In my opinion the best use of this is the funeral in the first episode. After getting the beautiful track of the stars shooting through the sky we get a short scene at the funeral. Then we cut to burying Himmel's coffin. Right before Frieren starts crying the music cuts off and all you can hear is the shovel spreading dirt. Talk about a gut punch.
31:25. *WHAT IS THIS A CROSSOVER EPISODE!?!?!??!!?!* I know it’s not typically the kind of show you cover, but I’d LOVE to see a Bojack video at some point.
Today, for a very brief moment I talked to a very old man who told me everyone he knew and loved has died, and that he's the last one in his group of friends and family today I don't know what to make of it
I know I’m late but denken fist fighting is one of my favorite scene in the anime also his relationship with laufen also amazing analysis video, it felt great having someone feel the same things I felt watching and reading frieren
Arrgh the CZcams algorithm be a cruel Mistress. But it seems she's looked down upon me with contempt this time around. Lol Great video, the editing the writing and overall the passion in your voice. Overall I'm glad I got this recommendation. I enjoy and love the show.
I think the fight between wirbel party and denken was cut off because we already know the combat prowess from both sides and for the interest of time Frieren doesn’t need more action after Frieren v Frieren. Instead of that I’m way more interested in what happen between fern and Methode. Also Frieren killing Frieren and then the spigel would kill off the other clones.
That’s another thing I wanted to see, and that makes sense from a pacing perspective. We still don’t know much about methode. But yeah, I was nitpicking hardcore to find things I didn’t like
@@Totaraumthey’ve given us a good amount of what Methode is capable of. Her shield against the gargayole was huge. She has really good fire power and density with her Zoltraak. She can use that offensive spell to overtake another attack while defending at the same time. She has the most precise mana detection of anyone else we’ve seen at the exam. She can use both hypnosis and restraint magic. She also uses a holy scripture. She’s a powerful all-rounder
Thanks for the long Frieren video. I got break up by my gf at Christmas and has to learn to spend time alone again, day off is the worst since time flow so slow when she's not with me anymore. Then i watch Frieren and try to savor each episode as long as i can, the anime really bring me the inner peace i yearning for since the BU but eventually every journey have it end, i finished 28 episode and a bit struggle to find something else to pass my free time. Your long video really do help me alot ❤
I spent half of this video on the verge of tears just watching and being reminded of certain parts of this show. I was watching it with my girlfriend the first time through, and I told her this show was special after only seeing the first episode. This show lived up to that statement in every single fucking episode. It's incredible, and I also don't want to read ahead... well actually I do. Desperately. Like you wouldn't fucking believe. But this show was such an experience that knowing what happens before it's animated almost seems like doing it a disservice, even though I am convinced that NOT experiencing it in manga form is also doing the manga a disservice. Excellent video.
Thank you! The full frieren soundtrack doesn’t release until the 17th so I wanted to find music that fit the vibe of the show. I’m glad it didn’t go unnoticed
Honestly this is one of the best animes thats come out in a while, not that others havent been good but because how good it is, as long as they keep it up and put forward a good ending itll be just as good or close to FMAB
I watch a lot of in depth political analysis content and I watch DnD live plays, both of which regularly have episodes in the 2-4 hr category. Never been so happy to be able to watch a 1hr vid so easily
29:33 That point is not true. First Aura trained her ability to see instability. And second Serie says when she talks about mana suppression, that Demon King would have see through Frierens mana suppression. Anyway good run down.
agreed, any mage can conceal their mana for stealth, they just don't do what Flamme and Frieren do, always limiting it to have demon miscalculate their power. The other mages would not do that when fighting demons.
about concealing mana, frieren and fern is a bit different, everyone at the mage exam do it for the sake of stealth, while frieren not. frieren conceal the true prowess of her mana everytime, when fighting, sleeping, cooking, etc, so it's different than the other mages.
the reason for flamme and frieren suppressing their mana is to fool the demons into thinking they are weaker than they actually are. they do so by being so good at it that there is hardly any fluctuation visible to a demon. otherwise they couldnt fool them so easily. other mages do it temporarily, to hide their presence, but they arent good enough at it that a demon would be fooled by it.
I'm only around 17 episodes in, and this show has really shown alot of the meaning and hype I've heard about prior. The overall hype of the show's plot and writing, just overall basis has been proven to be true due to how good it is and isn't the same concept like others, its a whole different type of concept, showing the aftermath of one journey and the beginning of another, the meaning has aswell so far been proven well, as Frieren does explore things her past companions have said which she found dumb but eventually found them spectacular and proefficient. The overall meaning of Frieren learning about humans more is proven as she has fern and stark by her side and i think so far that's gone well for Frieren's learning about humans, and other characters and such along the way. Everything about Frieren is what makes it different than others, and honestly I like it. It's that one show we've had in our minds when talking about anime, and its finally been a thing.
Hearing all these future-plot items placed so carefully reminds me of Babylon V. So many episodes that of B5 had me saying, Wait, that thing from two seasons ago was actually important!
That weird scene makes me think that it was initially supposed to be the end of the episode, then the next one is what we see when the next episode starts. But they ran out of options in editing, but made the decision to keep both for some reason.
The title of this video is hurting it a lot I shared this video to some of my friends who like video essays, and they replayed from the title and the thumbnail it looks like a troll video yapping for an hour, which is not !
Glad someone pointed out the work put into the english dub, it really went just as hard the rest of the production. Frieren's english voice is what made me fall in love with the character.
I feel like we are watching a love story, where the main lady doesn't realize she is in love until 80 years after the man's death. It is equal parts funny and heartbreaking.
thoughts: 1.) god i wish Frieren would rub my nose in it... uwu 2.) the south park scene change music was suuuuch a great bit. 3.) subbed 4.) Flamme and Frieren held the view that hiding mana was dishonorable like a thousand years ago. Humanity has changed a lot. I took it moreso like "culture has shifted this much in a millenia". Idk i can see where you're coming from... but I didn't feel weird about it not being directly spelled out for me.
Just binged watched this entire video while needing to go to school tomorrow, or I geuss today. Hopefully I'm not sleep deprived... but anyways, great video dude! I love watching CZcams videos of anime so I can feel better about myself
29:45 Well to be fair, conceiling mana is different from disguising it, Frieren doesn't only conceal her mana, that's something that everyone does, including the demons (hence the scene where Flamme ices a bunch of them, they were hiding up until they realised she was a mage) Frieren makes it seem like her full amount of mana is smaller than it is, which is considered disgraceful by Flamme, which is someone who lived at least a 1000 years ago, and as a result, by Frieren (And later on presumably Fern). None of the contemporary characters ever state they think anything of it i don't think. It seems to me that the "disgracefulness" of it was much more an opinion of Flamme's than a widespread belief. But the writing could have done a better job of distinguishing the concealment (which is common practice, being basically stealth) from the disguising (which is something Flamme, Frieren, Serie and Fern do specifically to beat demons).
I must be confused. Not sure what the inconsistency is with mana suppression that you point out at 29:24 . I didn't think that anyone but Frieren, Fern, Flamme and now probably Serie where doing that as a way of life, continually convincing everyone around them that they have less mana. Nor did I see anything show they were as good at completely suppressing it for stealth as Fern.
I don't believe anyone else is doing it, I'm just wondering why the other mages are ok with them doing it. I figured Flamme's influence over humanity's magic would've made it taboo or something. It could've happened and Serie probably would've reverted it, but I don't know, I just think it's something that should've been addressed or explained in some way
@Totaraum I suppose one case for why the author didn't have Flamme make it taboo could be that it would only draw attention to a practice that she's trying to keep hush hush. Wasn't really on anyone's radar, so why put it there. As for why they said it makes a mockery of it all, I think that's addressed by how Fern and Frieren say they only enjoy magic "somewhat." It's implied that being forced to do it all the time seems to take its toll -- spending less time building and enjoying it. I got the impression that others seem to have more of a "Why the f* would you order Vintage Cote de Boeuf well done and smothered in A1 sauce for every meal" kind of view on it -- a complete waste and not sustainable. I believe Serie addressed how it could be accomplished and be useful, but continued to call it a waste and that there's better ways.
@@cah1-kr9eb I guess I wish we weren't left to speculate on that point. I like thinking about elements that create mystery and intrigue after a show is over, not ones that leave the reason behind a character's behavior unresolved I like your interpretation, it's similar to what I was thinking but I think I took issue with Frieren and Flamme calling themselves a disgrace. It felt like it was worded so strongly only so they could create a parallel between how the demons and themselves view the magic they use
@@TotaraumMy take on the reason for why Flamme and Frieren find mana suppression as “shameful” and a “mockery” is because both of them love peaceful magic. Flamme’s favorite spell is flowerbed magic and her goal in life was to spread magic across humankind to share its beauty. Frieren is very much the same. Suppression is magic that runs contrary to their love of beautiful peaceful magic and goal of sharing it. Suppression is only really useful in combat. By nature suppression’s aim is to deceive and hide magic away. This is antithetical to spreading the beauty of magic. Flamme is a peaceful mage by nature but her hatred of demons leads her to suppress those inclinations in pursuit of revenge. This incongruity of mana suppression with her philosophy is why she views her practice of it as shameful. Other human mages do not necessarily share this philosophy on magic so they do not inherently dislike suppression on a fundamental level. However, most don’t really practice it as a technique, it requires too much investment to be able to meaningfully conceal it, especially against demons.
@@rediciclepop4639it has everything to do with pride. For mages, your mana and thus your technique, signature spell, power, etc is directly linked to how powerful you are. The ultimate test of your power as a mage is a magic showdown, fair and square. That’s what Flamme meant when she said the 3 demon generals had every intention of concealing their mana and surprise attacking until they realized Flamme and Frieren were mages. Pride and overconfidence.
30:00 The analogue Flamme gave, I think kind of fits it perfectly. Mana suppression is effectively like cosplaying as a homeless person. Demons do it as well, for assassination purposes, but tend to consider it a matter of pride when it comes to attacking other mages, because they are, like politicians and millionaries, proud of their wealth and love to showboat their impressive mana sizes. It's not as taboo among humans, but also not like they go around detecting mana 24-7 because doing that is draining, so suppressing ones power is usually pointless when it comes to human-to-human confrontation.
Purchasing a manga series only for the first volume to take the longest to get delivered is oddly relatable. Watching Frieren was a joy. I watched it after it had finished airing, so I could watch episodes at my own pace, but I ended up splitting it into 2 episode chunks per evening at most, rather than binging it. It's super relaxing and still manages to be funny, emotional and thought provoking, which I feel is so rare in shows (in general). If the anime ever continues, I hope they get to keep that pacing rather than having to cram the story into 13 episodes.
Yo I started this show on the dub by mistake and holy shit did Dub Watchers EAT on this one. I didn't even realize until episode 10 that I was watching in Eng and I just kept it rollin'. Phenomenal show. 10/10
As a German i highly recommended even further mispronouncing the names, that way you boost interactions. We love correcting people.
Fryren is best amine
I love frowren
Fyeerrn
Firing is the best character ever
As soon as I saw "Auberst" I was like.. wait that's not a b..
I’m glad demons aren’t another misunderstood bunch. It’s weird, but it’s refreshing to see pure evil in the time where grey moral areas are the trope.
They aren't really evil, they just do what they do to survive
There isn't really malicous intent behind it
@@Ikirus it doesn’t matter, evil doesn’t have to come from malice. It can come from cold calculated logic, from love, from desire of self preservation. An Ai preemptively exterminating its creators out of desire to preserve its future expansion is evil, despite not having any malice, so is a serial killer who doesn’t feel empathy. Demons are not an animal which merely kills to eat and survive, they lose this card because they are fully intelligent, sentient creatures with pattern recognition and ability to concoct complex plans. Their absolute disregard for the life of fellow sentient creatures is what makes them pure evil.
@@Walsinats4 I believe what you're referring to is that it's refreshing to see an unsympathetic monster in an era where every villain has to have a relatable point to preach
@@Ikirusnice way to defend psychopaths
A detail about the "proposal" stance of frieren and himmel vs fern and stark is the background, with fern and stark the background is a window, with frieren and himmel there's a clock, not just in the background but framed In-between the two, for me this represents how fern and stark have a real opportunity to something and while you would think himmel and frieren are the same there's something in between the two that they can't overcome, Time.
Well, and now I cry.
Cry
Perception +5
Roll a wisdom save for tears...
Failed
Also the item that symbolized fern and stark were wristband, even fern's were bloomed lotus. We know what lotus meant in their world, and fern's will bloomed. While frieren received lotus bud, unbloomed, ring from himmel, without giving himmel any ring from hers😢
Ps : symbol of marriage in asia rarely rings, often we use tokens like wristband between husband-wife, because it symbolizes being bound together for life. Even more so in the case of lover's suicides. And in east asia, red-knot tied between faithed lovers often tied in their pinky fingers, that jilted lover often cut their pinky finger as to cursed the one that cheated.😂
I love the gentle atmosphere of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. I love how nuanced the show is in it's characters, worldbuilding etc. Also how it can go from quiet slice-of-life to epic battle sequences and still feel tonally consistent. Also Frieren makes funny faces.
Fully agree, well said!
You’ve never watch Mushoku Tensei then, its miles better the Frieren.
@@i_want_a_daynah, its good, but also full of sexual degeneracy
I still prefer Furieeren March of Death or Funeral March.
@@Totaraumtalking about first episode immediately crying To your eternity by the same mangaka of a silent voice
mana suppression is kinda like hiding your existence and pretend you are weak. normal human mage and demon will both also “hide their mana” but don’t suppress them but for different reason.
flame explained why demon only hidden but not suppress. while series explained human’s reason.
Exactly! Suppressing your mana completely is used by both humanoids and demons to hide your presence and be stealthy
30:00 What Flamme and Frieren do that is 'disgraceful' is suppressing your mana partially, making you seem weaker
Im DBZ terms, what Flamme and Frieren do basically gives them a "this isn't even my final form" advantage in battle
i felt like it was covered pretty well in the anime. mana for demons essentially says if theyre a noble or not, which while sneaking out to pretend your a commoner is fine and normal, no one wants to give up their status forever. its considered a dirty trick for humans as well as demons because mages estimate fights based on another persons mana, no one would get into a fight with someone with a lot of mana if they have none. its pretty much saying youll fight fair and then kicking sand into their eyes when you start
Mana concealment is like hiding in the bushes. Mana suppression is like hobbling around on a cane everywhere you go, pretending to be disabled. It’s more deceitful.
@@drksideofthewal nah, mana suppression is just concealed carry. Never judge a threat solely on looks.
I'm 19 minutes in the video and I just want to share this... One of the most subtle throwback reaction/moment I've seen from frieren was when they discovered the hidden room with the untouched mural in the Ruins of the King's Tomb. They showed Fern's face with amazement of the mural, after which, then showed Frieren's which didn't show much interest or emotion towards it but when she noticed Fern having fun/smiling, she also smiled and enjoyed it along with her which was a throwback from Frieren when she watched the new year's sunrise in around episode 4(I think). It was very very brief but it showed her character and how she's growing/learning to understand humanity.
I remember pointing that out to my brother as we watched that episode together when it aired. He did not care at all but I thought it was super cool
@@TotaraumTo each his own 😂 but the show "shows" more than telling despite the amount of dialogues(which isn't actually a lot but are appropriately paced for when to "tell" or when to "show"). Like how the trios wardrobe changes for more weather appropriate climate and how Sein keeps his clothes the same despite the abundance of snow. Or how Wirbel's eye twitches for a single frame when he heard Fern say she killed Ehre. It balances conversations/exposition and showing expressions/scenes to give it more depth and give characters their own life. Keiichiro Saito knows emotions and characters much like how he directed Bocchi The Rock. Also, love the vid! Keep on giving us the good stuff!
Fun fact: that whole scene is anime original. Wasn't in the manga.
@@TotaraumI thought it was more a callback to Ferns conversation with Sense. Fern says the main reason she studies magic and journeys is because doing so makes Frieren happy, which makes fern happy. Frieren watching Fern in the kings tomb happens the same episode and I think shows that actually, for Frieren, ferns joy is also a key motivator. It shows how in sync they are and how much they care about each other.
I (platonically) ship it. I love stark/fern romantically but Frieren and Fern are the most important to each other… I want them to travel together forever 😢😢
@@echotango4591 Yea I think Frieren will stay at her side for the rest of Fern's life....
The dedication of this man to make a hour long frieren video is insane, been a subscriber for a long time btw keep up the good videos
I appreciate it, thank you!
29:59 Sierie said it herself, it takes centuries to be actually useful and in those centuries, you could have studied something else that's more useful, assuming you're still alive. And Sierie is also a big tsundere, she does it too despite saying that, lol.
I've seen so many people constantly miss this, and that demons do hide their mana just fine, just as anyone else can try to hide their mana. in fact the act of hiding your mana seems to be relatively simple, the difference is that frieren, fern, and flamme (+serie) are doing it all of the time. Trying to think of a good analogy, but the closest I can think of would be like.... writing in a style for a mirror. Completely useless skill, hard as hell to probably learn, could have probably focused on learning an entirely new language rather than how to write your own language in mirror, but in some very specific situations, could definitely be useful, and surprising as hell.
I think Totaraum missed something else. He said that demons can't detect mana concealment. But they can, they do see fluctuations in mana. The only mages we know they can't detect is Serie, Flamme, Frieren, and Fern because their fluctuations are so minor. But there are likely talented enough demons who can see through even them.
When Flamme told Frieren that mana concealment is dishonorable, that only applies to the rare permanent mana concealment. Demons can't imagine permanently concealing their mana, because they would be permanently accepting a lower social status in their society.
During the time of Flamme, I think the only powerful mages were elves and demons. Even powerful human mages may find dishonor in permanent mana concealment if they have pride in their own mana amount. Her statement makes sense with that context.
Most modern mages don't care because they don't love magic for the sake of magic. For demons and other powerful mages, they live for magic.
She's also like 10k years old, Frieren is a teenage elf, she's telling a child to learn the fundamentals first before learning the fancy shit
@@spaghetti1383 You are wrong on one thing. The only Demon to have ever seen through Frieren was the Demon King.
@@PhabioTheHostnah. Denken's master did so too.
Frieren is the first newly-airing anime I've managed to finish in at least five years. I was just as impacted by it as you; I'm currently editing my own review of the show, and I just want to say: I think yours is the most in-depth and highest quality I've seen so far. Also, I commend you for waiting until the anime actually finished airing before making it - I was also bothered by just how many reviews were published before the show even finished. Great job, my dude!
Thank you, I appreciate it! Best of luck with your review, I’m sure it’s gonna be good. Honestly I was curious so I checked out your channel and I’ve been listening to the chrono trigger video for the last 20 minutes while starting my day lol. It’s very well made and fun to listen to
@@Totaraum Thanks, man; I'm glad to hear you liked one of my videos! I'm gonna check out the rest of your stuff when I get the chance, but based off this one review, I have to say: you're really good. Your analysis is on point and your sense of humor is quite enjoyable; you seem to know exactly where to place each joke to perfectly transition into each of your next talking points. I wish your channel nothing but the best going forward!
That's funny because I've finished it 5 times already
I'm sure there's another one you could finish. Did you try Bocchi the Rock? It's somewhat related.
There’s a bunch of good anime that’s been released in the past 5 years. Apothecary Diaries, Delicious in Dungeon (currently airing), Made in Abyss, etc.
29:50 Concealing mana long term is what Flamme and Frieren were talking about. It isn't dishonorable to use stealth. But to hide it forever is to have no pride as a mage. Literally, only 4 mages in the entire series do this. And all 4 are of the same line of mages. Flamme, her master, Frieren, and Fern. Other mages "supress" their mana to get off sneak attacks or hide from others using mana detection. But to them it is like holding their breath. Temporary and straining.
And of the entire cast only 3 people have seen through Frieren's concealment. So we have yet to see what a "normal" mage would think of it in the modern era. But we can assume that most would find it unpraiseworthy as Flamme stated. Like a dude with a trust fund panhandling on the street for fun.
This is exactly what I thought, thank you for explaining
I cant help but imagine Fantasy Tiktokers flexing their display of their mana on their prepubecent audience who think its cool 🤣
To put in simpler words:
Most mages suppress their mana completely for stealth. But Frieren, Fern, Serie and Flamme suppress it partially to trick others. Lugner considers it sacrilegious, Serie finds it a low-priority direction, but Frieren and Flamme find it extremely effective because their goal is to kill demons by any means.
What about Fern though? Does she have a reason for suppressing her mana other than it's what Frieren taught her to do?
@@ethernet764 No
Frieren IS cinema, and this video is the minimum amount of time and quality it deserves. Thank you kind sir. 😊
I've seen SO many Frieren videos but yours is the most comprehensive in terms of distilling what makes the show good. Any good work of art elicits an emotional response, and for Frieren its a good, peaceful, cathartic feeling. And in this era of prevalent toxicity and cynicism in social media, we need it more than ever.
"Is it better to be born without fear, or to overcome it with great effort?" - Eisen and Stark probably
Serie describes why conceiling mana is down right stupid and getting it as efficient as Frieren. It takes over 200 years to perfect it, so for most mages (and demons), they use it only to sneak up on someone, but then releases the pressure. There is a reason why Fern is concidered a monster, since she has way too good of stability for a human and adding on that she uses standard spells to perfection.
Hunter x Hunter has a similar thing with Nen and in both show it makes you stronger since it basically like tensing up your muscles constantly.
"uhh... the world" is too poweful of a sentence
Fantastic video!
I just have one tiny nitpick: Frieren doesn't hate geniuses. The reason why she initially dislikes Sein is not because he's incredibly gifted, but rather because she sees her own former self in him - someone who feels like their chance to make something of their life has slipped through their fingers, and has thus resigned themselves a quiet life of numb unfulfillment, never making the effort to take that step to change their situation and try again.
_That's_ what Frieren means when she says that they're the same. It's not because they're both geniuses (though they are), it's because they were both okay with giving up and not trying again.
It's because she dislikes her old self that she dislikes seeing Sein like that. And it's for that reason that she was so determined to _help_ him take that step, just like Himmel once did for her.
Dancing Golem is in episode 5 when Stark asks Frieren why does she want the spell that is in Solar Dragon's nest.
So I watched around 100 of those essays on Frieren (I'm just beginning yours) - 1 thing I have to say, almost all of them talked about the world ;)
Shoot lol, also thanks for letting me know, for whatever reason I thought it was earlier
@@Totaraum no problem. I re-watched series again and I was in the middle of Graf Granat Arc when the video dropped. So it was fresh in my memory.
It’s been a very long time, since a show taught me anything but I learnt that even if it’s a day or a week or an hour, spend the time with people and things that you love because time slips fast, and you never got it back🧡
A small youtuber doing an hour long essay that's actually this good written and well thought is unheard of really. I hope this video blows up bro! You deserve it and so does Frieren deserve even more attention and recognition (yes I know it already has plenty already, but no matter what happens, this show will always deserve even more).
29:43 I see the confusion here. Frieren and Flamme(and as we find out at the end of the show, Serie) are literally constantly suppressing their magic at every moment of every day. This is different from the typical Mana suppression that any old mage uses, which is just for stealth. That’s just so other mages don’t detect their presence in a fight. Whereas Frieren’s constant mana suppression is an extraordinarily difficult that requires constant vigilance, and the only benefit that it provides is your opponent underestimates you. Demons don’t hate mana suppression as a whole, the show states that even they use the typical stealth kind, however Demons can easily tell when one is just temporarily suppressing their mana, but can’t tell something’s off with Frieren and Flamme, because they are constantly suppressing their mana. Demon society is based on a strong rule the weak mindset, so the idea of pretending you’re weaker than you truly are goes completely against anything and everything demons are. So the demons would never suspect what Frieren and Flamme are doing, so the demons think they’re stronger and try to kill them, and it’s easier to hunt the demons when they come to you.
So that’s probably why they look on their mana suppression with such shame. It is a ludicrously difficult technique to learn and they do it for the sole reason that it makes killing demons easier. A sort of physical manifestation of their obsessive hatred for demons.
Friern and flamme tjem self dont see it as shame... other mages do. They wotk thier whole life for the magic they use and dont supress it. Its like a badge of honor. But what flamme and frieren are doing goes completly against that. For a human mage the magic they have is thier pride they would never supress it only if needed in a mission
I’ve watched just about every Frieren video I have seen through the algorithm, and this is my first time subscribing after. Nice work.
Frieren was the less painful version of To Your Eternity which covers more of what makes someone human. Immortal stories can be hard to write and Frieren focuses more on what makes life worth living and I love it for it.
frieren is what id hoped to your Eternity would be when it first started. id lost interest after season 1, i hope frieren gets another beautiful season
@@izanagi6628 This is pretty much it. Frieren is To Your Eternity executed correctly.
I've had a friend who's been asking me to watch Frieren ever since it released and is obsessed with it to this day, getting to watch an hour of Totaraum rave about it seems like a good push to finally start the show when I get the time
Please do! I hope you really enjoy the show
I’m straight obsessed as well. It’s that good. I’ve rewatched it twice now 😂
As a West Coast swing dancer who started dancing just so I would stop flinching at any kind of physical touch (it worked, I completely broke through that problem), once I decided I actually wanted to be good at it, it still took me, like an entire year to get good. Partner dancing takes so much work and practice and focus, even if you're just trying to get good enough to do it socially for fun.
I'm feeling exactly like you buddy. I was hooked so hard for this show that almost hurt rewatch and remember The lessons across The anime. I'm from Brazil and tried a lot share this anime to have anyone to talk about it but anyway Im really happy to see your vídeo saying what i want to say to all the world about this masterpiece. If exist a religion who the leader was himmel i trully want be a evangelist, because frieren remember us all about how to live and this is truly precious! Its atemporal, certain beyound any rank or shonen culture of comparison between main characters, its much deep than this. Its a anime for the people who understand the meaning and take him has the masterpiece that he is and for the people who doesnot understand yet its a peak of animation with all the kind of things we want to see, humor, fanservice done right (ubeeel armpit and serie foot hummyyy hahaha lop), amazing battles and a smooth and gentle journey, a perfect storytelling that make him a 10/10 anime to any reviewer.
The episode must have taken many, many, MANY hours to prepare and edit. GOOD WORK MAN! Keep pushing
The Reason concealing your mana is seen as a bad thing by humanity is because it takes so long to learn, when one could use that time learning other spells. Fern has been learning it pretty much from age 6 (I think? At the age Frieren take Fern as a apprentice) and thus she only knows very few spells (Pretty sure she only knows basic offensive and basic defensive magic)
1 hour video from the GOAT about the GOAT anime of this year, my dream
28:38 - when talking about Denken's unnecessarily repeatable talk: I think there was an ad break in between them. In TV.
yeah, but it still weird they left it as is for the streaming
@@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Indeed. But to me who grew up on TV in the 90's that didn't have ads, but rented foreign (mostly American) shows that had ads in them - it's kind of normal to notice such stuff. The fact that I only noticed this one as "obvious" almost speaks to the talent of hiding said stuff by creators. And they had so, so, so much work to do (they had to keep up quality, while also outsourcing couple of episodes - including this one I think) that if this is the biggest problem that Anime has - that it doesn't have version for TV and version for streaming - then I'm all for it! I wish I could watch something great and have the fact that it "only" has 1 version be my biggest worry 🤣. Still probably valid. But then you also get into streaming rights, fact that it is translated so fast and also it would probably be the streaming services job to make the cut.
What an absolutely incredible note to end on.
Love the vid mad, great work!
Thank you!
1 hour, this is about to be good.
I've never been this in awe of a creative piece of media since, well feels like ever.
Hope Frieren sustains it's superb quality and has a well written ending.
6:42 I doubt you will see this but The way Frieren uses magic not for her hatred of demons only its that she learned from Flamme on how to fight demons no other entity was fighting like this before her and none since because Frieren never took on any apprentices. Fern is the first entity in 100 years to start fighting like this because Heiter only knew that to help her train as a mage which he learned from Frieren. So it comes full circle why Fern is so good and why Serie wants her because shes been training since shes a child while most Humans Serie took most likely were already 30+ for her to even notice. This was way longer then I thought it be but thats just how nuanced the show is when one little detail changes it effects everyone and their actions. Also the other Mages are not concealing their mana 24/7 thats what Fern and Frieren are doing. They can conceal their mana 24/7 but it takes time and is a skill that does not help them very much so to dedicate the time needed seems useless to them. The reason it is useless is how are you going to get "known" for learning a skill to keep a low profile? It so well done
Also about mana suppression. Fern is a natural-born genius at mana control. It was stated on multiple occasions that it would take a century or more for a normal mage to learn to do it all the time w/o being noticeable. That means literally every human mage born w/o exceptional natural talent can't learn it to an appreciable level. So Denken the geezer is right that it is useless. He would literally be dead before he got good enough to pass muster. Much less fool someone like Frieren.
On top of that, as said, Mana concealment like what Frieren does is fundamentally a different skill than what you talk about mages doing in the modern era which is hide their mana completely for brief moments. Fern's skill in hiding from perception is what won against the mirror match. Not her skill at only looking like she has 20% of her actual mana even while sleeping.
Aside, as only student of great demon, of course Denken would have that mindset.
Stark putting on his jacket goes so hard! Im glad someone else noticed too lol. I get that he's best boy, but yhere was no reason it had to look THAT good!
“I teared up because I kind of understood where she’s coming from”. That’s a lot of this show
That dancing golem clip is one of my favorites, and I'm with you on having no idea what episode it's in
I'm so glad someone else was the same lol
@@Totaraum episode 5 17:35
the Monster Hunter Pokke Village Theme fits so nice :D great video
this is the exact kinda content i live for. subscribed and here for the ride let's go!
Man, been watching you since 3-4 years when you did the first few clannad vids. You still give out nice reviews and insights, great interpretations too.
A hand sign to make MAPPA treat their employees better was so out of nowhere I burst out laughing at 3am
1 min in and dam dude is down worse for Frieren than me! Quite the task if I do seiso. Anyway back to the vid
Real
To anyone who skipped anything or didnt watch the full thing, you better keep an eye peeled open when you sleep tonight...🙂
In the words of someone powerful, "Please be sure to watch your neck at night"
One hour.
Thank you.
I knew i wasn't the only one to noticed that Frieren's soundtrack have the same vibe with Monster Hunter.
Certain tracks sounds straight out of MH: Iceborne.
You mention the music knows exactly when to do what it needs to for the scene... In my opinion the best use of this is the funeral in the first episode. After getting the beautiful track of the stars shooting through the sky we get a short scene at the funeral. Then we cut to burying Himmel's coffin. Right before Frieren starts crying the music cuts off and all you can hear is the shovel spreading dirt. Talk about a gut punch.
31:25. *WHAT IS THIS A CROSSOVER EPISODE!?!?!??!!?!* I know it’s not typically the kind of show you cover, but I’d LOVE to see a Bojack video at some point.
No idea how I'd tackle it but if a good idea strikes I'd be all for it, love that show
OMG The freaking JACKET SCENE. I wonder if they rotoscoped it and that's why it looks so freaking good?
Dude, you made me tear up about Stark, good job
10/10 vid. Really hope this channel kicks off big
Subbed
Today, for a very brief moment I talked to a very old man who told me everyone he knew and loved has died, and that he's the last one in his group of friends and family today
I don't know what to make of it
one of the best Frieren Vids I've seen so far. can't wait to see you crack 100k within the next couple years, keep it up, m8!
You spoke your truth man and that toke. Courage so good on you.❤
Thanks for this. Probably my favorite show and definitely my favorite anime. Can't get enough of it and how impactful it is to people
I know I’m late but denken fist fighting is one of my favorite scene in the anime also his relationship with laufen
also amazing analysis video, it felt great having someone feel the same things I felt watching and reading frieren
Need an entire video centered around Himmel. My personal favorite GOAT. And the highest loved character of the series in popularity.
Arrgh the CZcams algorithm be a cruel Mistress. But it seems she's looked down upon me with contempt this time around. Lol
Great video, the editing the writing and overall the passion in your voice. Overall I'm glad I got this recommendation. I enjoy and love the show.
I think the fight between wirbel party and denken was cut off because we already know the combat prowess from both sides and for the interest of time Frieren doesn’t need more action after Frieren v Frieren. Instead of that I’m way more interested in what happen between fern and Methode. Also Frieren killing Frieren and then the spigel would kill off the other clones.
That’s another thing I wanted to see, and that makes sense from a pacing perspective. We still don’t know much about methode. But yeah, I was nitpicking hardcore to find things I didn’t like
@@Totaraumthey’ve given us a good amount of what Methode is capable of. Her shield against the gargayole was huge. She has really good fire power and density with her Zoltraak. She can use that offensive spell to overtake another attack while defending at the same time. She has the most precise mana detection of anyone else we’ve seen at the exam. She can use both hypnosis and restraint magic. She also uses a holy scripture. She’s a powerful all-rounder
@@Totaraum they showed us the after math of Fern attacking Methode with the holes in the wall around Methode
You've done too well with this review bro u covered every single detail
Thank you
Thanks for the long Frieren video. I got break up by my gf at Christmas and has to learn to spend time alone again, day off is the worst since time flow so slow when she's not with me anymore. Then i watch Frieren and try to savor each episode as long as i can, the anime really bring me the inner peace i yearning for since the BU but eventually every journey have it end, i finished 28 episode and a bit struggle to find something else to pass my free time. Your long video really do help me alot ❤
I spent half of this video on the verge of tears just watching and being reminded of certain parts of this show. I was watching it with my girlfriend the first time through, and I told her this show was special after only seeing the first episode. This show lived up to that statement in every single fucking episode. It's incredible, and I also don't want to read ahead... well actually I do. Desperately. Like you wouldn't fucking believe. But this show was such an experience that knowing what happens before it's animated almost seems like doing it a disservice, even though I am convinced that NOT experiencing it in manga form is also doing the manga a disservice.
Excellent video.
I love the bgm you used😆 it fits so well
Thank you! The full frieren soundtrack doesn’t release until the 17th so I wanted to find music that fit the vibe of the show. I’m glad it didn’t go unnoticed
Honestly this is one of the best animes thats come out in a while, not that others havent been good but because how good it is, as long as they keep it up and put forward a good ending itll be just as good or close to FMAB
Your takes are immaculate and your voice is great, I'll be checking out your other videos for sure!
I watch a lot of in depth political analysis content and I watch DnD live plays, both of which regularly have episodes in the 2-4 hr category. Never been so happy to be able to watch a 1hr vid so easily
29:33 That point is not true. First Aura trained her ability to see instability. And second Serie says when she talks about mana suppression, that Demon King would have see through Frierens mana suppression. Anyway good run down.
agreed, any mage can conceal their mana for stealth, they just don't do what Flamme and Frieren do, always limiting it to have demon miscalculate their power. The other mages would not do that when fighting demons.
You forgot, Denken's master saw trough Frieren too.
Really good video as always!!
Plus I agreen with a lot of points you've made especially on the character part cheers mate !
about concealing mana, frieren and fern is a bit different, everyone at the mage exam do it for the sake of stealth, while frieren not. frieren conceal the true prowess of her mana everytime, when fighting, sleeping, cooking, etc, so it's different than the other mages.
man the diablo music in the background got me ^^
the reason for flamme and frieren suppressing their mana is to fool the demons into thinking they are weaker than they actually are. they do so by being so good at it that there is hardly any fluctuation visible to a demon. otherwise they couldnt fool them so easily. other mages do it temporarily, to hide their presence, but they arent good enough at it that a demon would be fooled by it.
Pokke village theme in the background goes so well with frieren lol. Peaceful and calm in a tough world
Yes
ty for the video . what a dedication u have for Frieren
Dude, REALLY good video!
Hell yeah new Totaraum video :3
I'm only around 17 episodes in, and this show has really shown alot of the meaning and hype I've heard about prior.
The overall hype of the show's plot and writing, just overall basis has been proven to be true due to how good it is and isn't the same concept like others, its a whole different type of concept, showing the aftermath of one journey and the beginning of another, the meaning has aswell so far been proven well, as Frieren does explore things her past companions have said which she found dumb but eventually found them spectacular and proefficient.
The overall meaning of Frieren learning about humans more is proven as she has fern and stark by her side and i think so far that's gone well for Frieren's learning about humans, and other characters and such along the way.
Everything about Frieren is what makes it different than others, and honestly I like it.
It's that one show we've had in our minds when talking about anime, and its finally been a thing.
Hearing all these future-plot items placed so carefully reminds me of Babylon V. So many episodes that of B5 had me saying, Wait, that thing from two seasons ago was actually important!
I can't believe i just watched 1 hour long vod where a dood gushing about how much he loved this series
That weird scene makes me think that it was initially supposed to be the end of the episode, then the next one is what we see when the next episode starts. But they ran out of options in editing, but made the decision to keep both for some reason.
Superb analysis; great job!👍
The title of this video is hurting it a lot
I shared this video to some of my friends who like video essays, and they replayed from the title and the thumbnail it looks like a troll video yapping for an hour, which is not !
I'm sorry about that lol
@@TotaraumIt's funny tbh keep it reel
Glad someone pointed out the work put into the english dub, it really went just as hard the rest of the production. Frieren's english voice is what made me fall in love with the character.
I feel like we are watching a love story, where the main lady doesn't realize she is in love until 80 years after the man's death. It is equal parts funny and heartbreaking.
I was gonna say close enough welcome back himmel
30:40 - I clearly recall that's the mimics where dependent on Spiegel being alive.
Nop they are not
thoughts:
1.) god i wish Frieren would rub my nose in it... uwu
2.) the south park scene change music was suuuuch a great bit.
3.) subbed
4.) Flamme and Frieren held the view that hiding mana was dishonorable like a thousand years ago. Humanity has changed a lot. I took it moreso like "culture has shifted this much in a millenia". Idk i can see where you're coming from... but I didn't feel weird about it not being directly spelled out for me.
Just binged watched this entire video while needing to go to school tomorrow, or I geuss today. Hopefully I'm not sleep deprived... but anyways, great video dude! I love watching CZcams videos of anime so I can feel better about myself
Having that monster hunter music hit me in the nostalgia hard lol. Nice choice.
29:45 Well to be fair, conceiling mana is different from disguising it, Frieren doesn't only conceal her mana, that's something that everyone does, including the demons (hence the scene where Flamme ices a bunch of them, they were hiding up until they realised she was a mage) Frieren makes it seem like her full amount of mana is smaller than it is, which is considered disgraceful by Flamme, which is someone who lived at least a 1000 years ago, and as a result, by Frieren (And later on presumably Fern). None of the contemporary characters ever state they think anything of it i don't think. It seems to me that the "disgracefulness" of it was much more an opinion of Flamme's than a widespread belief. But the writing could have done a better job of distinguishing the concealment (which is common practice, being basically stealth) from the disguising (which is something Flamme, Frieren, Serie and Fern do specifically to beat demons).
Also there's a full scene where flamme explains the difference word for word
Clicked on it before I noticed the fact this is an hour long I got jumpscared by the length
This was just suggested to me after watching a video on the last unicorn.😂 I can definitely see some parallels between these two characters.😅
32:30 i love that its just killua that i hear when the screen is black
I must be confused. Not sure what the inconsistency is with mana suppression that you point out at 29:24 . I didn't think that anyone but Frieren, Fern, Flamme and now probably Serie where doing that as a way of life, continually convincing everyone around them that they have less mana. Nor did I see anything show they were as good at completely suppressing it for stealth as Fern.
I don't believe anyone else is doing it, I'm just wondering why the other mages are ok with them doing it. I figured Flamme's influence over humanity's magic would've made it taboo or something. It could've happened and Serie probably would've reverted it, but I don't know, I just think it's something that should've been addressed or explained in some way
@Totaraum I suppose one case for why the author didn't have Flamme make it taboo could be that it would only draw attention to a practice that she's trying to keep hush hush. Wasn't really on anyone's radar, so why put it there.
As for why they said it makes a mockery of it all, I think that's addressed by how Fern and Frieren say they only enjoy magic "somewhat." It's implied that being forced to do it all the time seems to take its toll -- spending less time building and enjoying it.
I got the impression that others seem to have more of a "Why the f* would you order Vintage Cote de Boeuf well done and smothered in A1 sauce for every meal" kind of view on it -- a complete waste and not sustainable. I believe Serie addressed how it could be accomplished and be useful, but continued to call it a waste and that there's better ways.
@@cah1-kr9eb I guess I wish we weren't left to speculate on that point. I like thinking about elements that create mystery and intrigue after a show is over, not ones that leave the reason behind a character's behavior unresolved
I like your interpretation, it's similar to what I was thinking but I think I took issue with Frieren and Flamme calling themselves a disgrace. It felt like it was worded so strongly only so they could create a parallel between how the demons and themselves view the magic they use
@@TotaraumMy take on the reason for why Flamme and Frieren find mana suppression as “shameful” and a “mockery” is because both of them love peaceful magic.
Flamme’s favorite spell is flowerbed magic and her goal in life was to spread magic across humankind to share its beauty. Frieren is very much the same.
Suppression is magic that runs contrary to their love of beautiful peaceful magic and goal of sharing it. Suppression is only really useful in combat. By nature suppression’s aim is to deceive and hide magic away. This is antithetical to spreading the beauty of magic.
Flamme is a peaceful mage by nature but her hatred of demons leads her to suppress those inclinations in pursuit of revenge. This incongruity of mana suppression with her philosophy is why she views her practice of it as shameful.
Other human mages do not necessarily share this philosophy on magic so they do not inherently dislike suppression on a fundamental level. However, most don’t really practice it as a technique, it requires too much investment to be able to meaningfully conceal it, especially against demons.
@@rediciclepop4639it has everything to do with pride. For mages, your mana and thus your technique, signature spell, power, etc is directly linked to how powerful you are. The ultimate test of your power as a mage is a magic showdown, fair and square. That’s what Flamme meant when she said the 3 demon generals had every intention of concealing their mana and surprise attacking until they realized Flamme and Frieren were mages. Pride and overconfidence.
30:00 The analogue Flamme gave, I think kind of fits it perfectly. Mana suppression is effectively like cosplaying as a homeless person. Demons do it as well, for assassination purposes, but tend to consider it a matter of pride when it comes to attacking other mages, because they are, like politicians and millionaries, proud of their wealth and love to showboat their impressive mana sizes. It's not as taboo among humans, but also not like they go around detecting mana 24-7 because doing that is draining, so suppressing ones power is usually pointless when it comes to human-to-human confrontation.
Loved the Tristram music when you started talking about demons!
Great video!
D2 ost when talking about Demons. You hit the spot.
Purchasing a manga series only for the first volume to take the longest to get delivered is oddly relatable.
Watching Frieren was a joy. I watched it after it had finished airing, so I could watch episodes at my own pace, but I ended up splitting it into 2 episode chunks per evening at most, rather than binging it. It's super relaxing and still manages to be funny, emotional and thought provoking, which I feel is so rare in shows (in general). If the anime ever continues, I hope they get to keep that pacing rather than having to cram the story into 13 episodes.
I honestly wish you'd taken longer to go into more of the subtext and themes you teased. This was a fantastic watch.
Yo I started this show on the dub by mistake and holy shit did Dub Watchers EAT on this one. I didn't even realize until episode 10 that I was watching in Eng and I just kept it rollin'. Phenomenal show. 10/10
Awesome video. I also find it interesting that you use a lot of monster hunter music lol