Podcast Ep. 006: Ricky Garard Comes Clean
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- Chase Ingraham: “Specifically to the 2017 CrossFit Games testing positive, did you knowingly take those PEDs for the CrossFit Games?”
Ricky Garard: “Yes.”
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In the latest episode of the CrossFit podcast, Ricky Garard comes clean about testing positive for PEDs during the 2017 competitive season.
Garard talks openly about his four-year suspension, processing the repercussions of his actions, and how he has learned and grown from his mistake.
Seeking redemption, Garard is looking to earn his spot back on the competition floor to prove to himself, and the world, that he has what it takes to be a top competitor in the sport.
Garard will be eligible to return to CrossFit competition on Oct. 3, 2021 and will compete at the Dubai CrossFit Championship in December.
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First off, pretty darn good interview by Chase. He pressed Ricky for some answers, was respectful, and didn’t show too much bias in favor of Crossfit (this is after all a Crossfit podcast.
There are two HUGE things I learned from this podcast this should be of concern.
1. As of 2017 when Ricky got tested, athletes are not watched while they give their urine sample after making the podium. What’s to stop someone from taunting their sample with a mouth full of water, a small water bottle or fake penis (it’s a real thing). I think this is what Ricky was eluding to when he mentioned Mat looked to be trying to dilute or taint his sample by using his water bottle with gel (can’t be for certain and not passing judgement here just something to note).
2. Once testing positive, Ricky did not get tested for 3.5 years. Wow. You are giving the athletes who test positive 3+ years to use PEDs, learn their cycles, gain strength, and prep for a comeback and not testing during that period. I understand their are financial constraints to the testing process, but this is a GLARING hole to their PED testing procedures. For USADA, you stay in the testing pool during your suspension and must stay clean during your suspension. Keep in mind USADA does not do CrossFit’s testing, it’s Drug Free Sport International (just something to take note of).
Is Ricky now clean? Maybe. But what was his incentive to get clean while not being tested? Are more athletes on gear? Does the testing come close to catching anyone who has good knowledge and coaching around PEDs? What are your thoughts?
Without a doubt athletes are using. Crossfit is not immune to it. All sports deal with this.
Can we please get a Mat, Josh, Sevan podcast for an immediate reaction?
are you a high school teenage girl?
@Adam Bosch Hell yeah bro
@@hittman1412 You are my ex jelous girlfriend who bad mouths people at all times. Yapper
@@hittman1412 even worse. I’m a middle-aged housewife who still watches soap operas for a little dramatic flare in my life.
They should play this entire interview and pause and chat about each point. I can see Mat Frasers face now lol
Wow calm down everyone, he didn’t kill anyone . Good on him for having the balls and drive to want to come back . I’m excited to see him compete .
Absolutely pumped to see him back on the floor. He got a vigor that no one else has.
Couldn’t even apologise to Vellner or Luke McMahon who’s may have missed his once chance to represent Australia at the games. Trash.
@@natangeva2715 Confrontation aint easy especially when you know the person probably is extremely disappointed in you. Hopefully he will make good on it.
Amen to that brother
I'm sad that we won't get to see him and Mat go head to head at the Games. Excited to see him perform and wishing him all the positivity and best of luck.
you did a great job Chase, the replies were painfully slow at times, but you kept it flowing 👏🏻
Hes under a lot of pressure and he’s obviously not great at articulating his thoughts..
He’s a full introvert with a fierce competitive streak.
He was very nervous but did a great job
In today's world of no forgiveness and instant cancellation, it takes courage to own up to your mistakes. Be good and be clean, Ricky. I wish you all the best in future competitions.
Empathy is dead
You know what takes more courage? Never cheating in the first place. Don’t make this about cancel culture … this is about integrity. This exposure is pretty disgusting because “owning it” doesn’t make cheating more forgivable. His friends and family should have his back but don’t expect the rest of us to support him.
@@DLiuUMD I hope you when you make a mistake in your life people around you show grace.
@@memefortime Not all mistakes are the same - This guy had no excuses. Another young guy in his prime who just wasn't good enough but felt he deserved success anyways. Pure selfishness. Yeah of course no one was injured and no crimes were committed but within the context of this sport, its one of the worst offenses. That's why I think the coverage on him is ridiculous. Like... you know who doesn't have a podcast about their redemption story? All the other people who didn't cheat.
I don't think he made a mistake, can it be a mistake if you delibertately cheat the system after getting away with it the first time. If he hadn't got caught he would still be cheating. He doesn't seem to be very humble or genuine about the whole thing.
In the 2017 Documentary, you could see that he wasn't confident in answering the questions about Steroid usage.. Those Sarms were in his mind the whole time answering. The man has taken a major L though and stayed fully committed to CrossFit for 4 full years knowing he couldn't compete, in my eyes he has learned his lesson and deserves another shot. I wish nothing but the best for the guy.
well said g
I love how this was handled great job
Perfect, next time i cant fall asleep I listen to this for 2mins
CF: "Were you a bad boy in 2017????"
RG: "Ya"
CF: "Are you still a bad boy now???"
RG: "No"
CF: "Ok ur good welcome back"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Watch the CrossFit world implode when he wins the CrossFit games. :o
The more things change, the more they stay the same….
What’s up with the captain American decoration? How old is chase?
@@xspotdamark haha i freaking love it.
@@jacogreyling6547 same same but different but still same same
He will win. If he wasn’t the athlete he is, they wouldn’t care about him or his comeback.
Chase Ingraham giving me Oprah vibes with the “yes or no” questions right off the bat. Shout out to those who know lol
Truth, very Lance Armstrong, especially with the half ass honesty. Time to move on. Lance is still a part of the cycling community and that is on a whole other level
I was waiting for, "You GET an assault bike and YOU get an assault bike and YOU GEt an assault bike!"
@RoLo THIS...hahaha
Respect for him admitting to doing it. Takes a lot. He served his time so Games on.
Chase Ingraham, man good interview, and I think your approach to sharing wisdom with Ricky, encourage him to reach out and make an effort at making a menace with athletes he will be facing in the competition was good. Good dude you are. Thumbs up
I think that it goes to show Chases character by far but trying to help Ricky continue to build his character. I also appreciated that Chase didn't put up with any bullshit answers. He was like, "Well you know that bs right?'
Thank you sir
Lets go Ricky! keen to see you in action again. Bring that character and personality. Cant wait.
Everyone deserves a second chance in sport and in life. Looking forward to seeing you back on the competition floor Ricky
Huge respect for Ricky!
Time served, justice done....time to move forward, good luck Ricky
I feel like we all can finally exhale and stop holding our breath as it related to Garard's situation. I appreciate his honesty, and I'm excited to see where he stacks up with the rest of the field as a natural athlete.
So excited for the Games this year
And with all that he didn’t beat Mat 💪🏼🔥
@Thomas Paine that Mat’s body is at a higher level. Ideally, The idea behind them would mean you’ve reached your peak performance naturally, so you take them to push past your peak. Doesn’t negate hard work, because you still have to work hard when you take them. I’m assuming by your response you’re suggesting Fraser took them. I don’t think he did. I’m not naive to the fact they are in the sport. They are in ALL sports. But, I’ve heard Mat talk about all of it and how they test and how often he’s been tested and his background and I honestly don’t think he is or was.
@@dhall75608 LOL crossfit doesn't test like WADA/USADA, and its solely up to Crossfit who they decide to pop. Crossfit's testing is a joke.
He will never ever beat Mat Fraser. HWPO
@@hittman1412 You are a joke you ex-jelous girlfriend.
Crossfit popping Mat would be shooting themselves in the foot to say the least. Even if he tested positive it would never see the light of day.
Good on you for being honest and coming clean. Be a new version of you....
I hope that what this is too!
We all know no one competing there is clean, Ricky always was just the scapegoat.
@@kobilee9504 Why use Ricky as the scapegoat?
@@kobilee9504 must be nice to be in the know
Chase is a fantastic interviewer .
Right.I hadn't seen that CF video nor knew the timing about when Ricky did the interview.
hes cute too
Anyone else find it extremely difficult to listen to his slow, choppy child like sentences and thoughts? It's like pulling teeth to get an actual full thought and sentence out. Also at the beginning he said when he found out it may come up in test he said he wasn't changing anything, or stopping taking the "supplement" at that point, then a minute later when asked he said he stopped taking them right away. I'm sorry, I give him credit for trying, but I still don't trust a word he says.
He just says what need to be said and what people want to hear. If he would say the whole truth probably people would still bash him.
same here! I'm getting some kind of the shady vibe from him 🤷
Grow up
So glad this guy could do his research on Beetroot…
As an ex semi-professional rugby player your claim at naivety over ‘supplements’ is pathetic.
100% still shady, he’s not sorry he did it, just that he got caught. Still trying to shift the blame to others
I’m glad this happened 🙏🏼
all i can say balls to admit
balls to come back
and man he came back and dominated this years game coming 3rd
Lets see how he goes for 2023
I’m excited to see Ricky compete again!
I think he has a lot of natural ability and talent - unfortunately a mistake was made but EVERYONE makes mistakes.
And they are the greatest opportunities to grow. Good for Ricky for doing this interview knowing people will still be hateful toward him and judge him.
Takes courage to come back after being made an example of. I can’t wait to see Ricky on the competition floor. Good luck in Dubai!
He should’ve just said the reason he started taking it is because he wanted to win.
Doesn’t that go unsaid ? Don’t all athletes take supplements to win/be better ?
I dont want to get paid to LOSE I want to WIN!
Wow! Underdog Athletics is going to have more eyes on them in 2022 with their athlete bullpen!
Underdog Athletics = the DC universe.
Well done Ricky on being courageous and telling truth
2:59 😂 facts 🙏💯💪
Lets go Ricky! Can't wait for your comeback!
This is tough to watch. RG seems so nervous, but I applaud him for coming forward to “clean the slate”. He’s served his ban, let him compete, and I wish him well. Thank you for a great interview Chase, you definitely tried to make as RG comfortable as possible to say what he wanted to say…
Admitting the truth is a huge step. Even if everyone knows already..
I want to see what he can do without substances. He might be amazing or he might be disappointing.
🇦🇺 Go Ricky!
I’m buzzing to see him back!! He took the punishment
be classsss to see him in Dubai!
Let’s go Ricky!
Every deserves a second chance. Everyone deserves the opportunity to clean their slate and show they’ve changed. Here’s the thing though. Broken trust takes a LOT of time to rebuild. 4 years of relative silence about the scandal doesn’t do much to build trust. Doing the open workouts and boasting that you beat Mat and you woulda qualified, etc doesn’t do anything to rebuild what was broken. Continuing to be polarizing like that makes the divide bigger.
Trust takes time, it takes action, it takes consistency. Not just words on a podcast once or twice but continual, open dialogue, continual action both showing the change, and encouraging change in others/the sport.
I truly hope he is being honest and sincere. I hope he’s learned from his mistakes. I hope he makes it back to the games clean and proves he deserves to be there.
But I also hope Pat crushes every hope and dream the guy has this year just to remind everyone that Daddy Pat is a force to be reckoned with and he hasn’t forgotten what was stolen from him 🤟🏼😎
100% agree with you
Good on him. All of us have made bone head decisions that we regretted. It takes a ton of courage to come forward and man or woman up
Good for him for reaching out to CF to do this. It makes wonder what knuckle heads be had in his corner that didn't think he should have done this sooner AND to do a public face to face apology with Vellner for career PR at the very least. Sponsors want a winner for sure but they want relatable honesty as well. Why wouldn't someone tell him that?
I hope he does well.
I hope he doesnt cos he tried to throw my boy Mat Fraser under the bus
It would be a wild ride! I think he will! Excited or Dubai!
Good on Ricky for admitting to what he did. He paid for it and should be given a chance. Only time will tell if he's above board. As the saying goes, "screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me." If he does it again then ban him for life, until then let the man do his thing.
Welcome back Ricky, excited to see what's to come for you
Bottom line, he was a kid who made a stupid mistake. He served his time, knew what he was facing coming back, and came back anyway. He's acting like a man should. I talked just as much shit about him in 2017 as the next Crossfitter, but we all do things that we're not proud of and it takes a lot for someone to own up in public. I hope that he's clean, continues to be clean, and competes hard.
Say what you want about the guy. I have mad respect for the dude. I honestly feel he is going to shake the world of CrossFit upside down.
The spot light that CrossFit is giving to a cheater is just ridiculous, yes I know he had his punishment, but we don’t need to celebrate his return, it’s so stupid.
Totally with you on this!!
Agree! Capitalizing on a "headline"
Well, capitalizing his return as much as they capitalized his downfall. None had a problem with that back then.
@@DanielVazquez-td5wc Right, What validation would the drug testing methods have without someone getting popped.
@@DanielVazquez-td5wc I’m sorry but, what did you expect them to do,
He finished 3rd place by cheating, and you wanted them to get it under the radar, he made a big mistake and didn’t even apologize for it he tried to bring someone else down and made it worse so they did what they had to do and there’s people that will say this is not enough so I don’t think someone can argue they tried to embarrass him or something.
Chase ingraham type of questions : could it be that people who support Ricky are Mathew fraser haters?
Mannn I love those questions... The type that u need to answer for 15min hahaha
As long as he’s clean
He deserves a fair shot
I wonder if we can get Greg here. How much you bench MPMD
perfectly worded Chase 'you're not the devil Ricky, you just did some really dumb stuff'. I've been a follower of bike racing since my early teens and seen loads of these stories come out since the 90's. The riders often come back from their bans clean and ready to be ambassadors against PED's in sport. Ricky is the first in CrossFit and will hopefully be a lesson and a mentor for those coming through now. Great interview.
Hes been punished, hes admits his mistake, regrets his stupidity so lets give him the benefit of doubt going forward.
This will always be over him, but as long as he tests negative going forward, let it be.
4 years out during prime years is a massive life changer. Hes done it, so lets move forward.
Nobody can doubt hes a talented athlete, but he made a big mistake and paid the price.
I wish him good luck in his future crossfit games.
The fans are going to destroy him. I respect that he's being honest now but for me, it's too little too late. He took away opportunities from other athletes that they can never get back. Thanks for the great interview Chase!
The games happen every year , every year they have another opportunity?
Shut up lol
Thank you for the interview, job well done. I always wanted to hear Ricky's side and anyone else that tested positive for illegal substances . I was a little disappointed on how the movie was edited. Since Ricky took third there was a big focus on him. But if you do just a little research, you will find that game athletes have been testing positive for illegal substances since they implemented the testing procedure. They don't get that much attention since they do not podium in the games. Which it's aggravating. If they were going to talk about the issue on this particular movie, than actually talk about the issue. I was very annoyed with Castro's comment that the athletes who win "do it right" and the ones that do not, well; it doesn't matter because they don't win anyways. Seriously!!!! if they don't "win" who cares if they are "breaking the rules", C'mon.
"10am in the morning"
Keen to see Ricky return to the games from a fellow Gong person. It would’ve been much easier to give up and not come back but to keep grinding for 4 years is a big thing.
I think if his experience shows anything it’s that if CrossFit are only testing athletes who podium and some of these drugs are out of their system if they stop a week before, what stops anyone else doing it until a week before the games. You think they’d be tested year round. Doesn’t give you much confidence that other people aren’t taking things and that he was the “unlucky” one to get caught.
Not to mention not being supervised whilst doing the sample could’ve easily tampered with the sample if he had wanted to.
I know there’s a lot of speculation around the CrossFit testing policy and why a lot of people speculate athletes are using.
Everyone makes mistakes but will be good to see his comeback. If anything you just hope after his experience they changed the testing policies as that is clearly flawed within itself. Reality is people shouldn’t dope but sadly enough in all sports it’s clearly prevalent so it’s about what you put in place to make it fair for everyone, test everyone at regionals the games off season etc. otherwise you’re always going to find someone that slips through the cracks.
But good on him for the interview and training hard to come back 4 years later. Good luck!
It’s funny no other top Aussie cross fitters follow him but no exactly what his up 2 said should be a life ban etc they no his a massive threat
I don’t understand the Matt chewing gel comment.. Whats that’s indicative of?
So Ricky still can not take ownership for his mistakes and says he trusted people he shouldn’t have trusted, while in the same breath admitting that he knew that the substances were banned at the time he was taking them. It’s one thing to acknowledge mistakes and move on, but I am not seeing any owning up going on here.
He then goes on to say that Mat dipping is suspicious because Ricky can’t even beat him when he’s (Ricky) cheating. Only small people will try to take away someone’s success because of their own failure. CrossFit fans deserve so much better!
I appreciate the interview, but it's still not cool that he didn't apologize in person to Pat Vellner years ago. In-person, not in an interview or text, etc. Redemption includes those you've wronged -- family, friends and the opponent you robbed of his moment on the podium.
I’m really confused. Like I get that he’s gonna split opinions and he’s going to be a talking point this year and whatnot - but what I really don’t get is just how desperate CrossFit are to ride this wave. The PR, the promotion and the general positive light they are shining on this is all just a bit weird to me given the circumstances 🤷🏻♂️
Would it not be ironic if Mat asked Ricky to be an ambassador of his new supplement line. I think that'd be cool. And before anyone comments... I'm just being facetious. Joking. Maybe. Haha🤣🤣
Lol
He did his time and unfortunately has done his shoulder, i hope he recovers to compete, i thought hed have a chance of winning it this year
So glad he came back! we all make poor choices in our life and we all deserve a second change. I'm with you, Ricky!
Mistakes are made all the time by everyone. He’s getting a 2nd chance. He will either make the most of it or fuck up again. There’s only 2 outcomes. Let’s sit back and see which one happens.
I feel like Ricky still is not taking ownership 💯. He knew it was a risk after regionals and kept taking the same supplements. That said, I am excited to see him back. He learned a hard lesson.
Looking forward to seeing Ricky compete and all the athletes being butthurt about him taking a spot
He did his time and is now a redemption story. He know he's going to get sh*t all the way through and ongoing but he did his time and is staying in the sport when many would slink away. Kudo's to him and look forward to watching him compete.
So many virtue signallers here happy to continue a 4 years ongoing stoning of one guy
the fact his local community didnt burn him at the stake gives me hope for humanity atleast
I wish mpmd would discuss
I think he’d look more sincere if he offered an apology to all the athletes he competed against that year. He upset the flow of competition just by being there when he didn’t earn his spot. I don’t like that he said he made an apology but it never aired. It’s his job to make the apology to the right people. Not a blanket statement and hope someone plays it for him. I have a lot of mixed emotions over this. I do think someone who cheats deserves a second chance. However this interview felt slippery. I hope he is genuine and honest despite how he answered questions. I also feel he earned himself a quarterly drug test till he returned- none at all seems negligent. Overall I think it’s time to forgive and move on. Being ugly about this is no help to anyone. I think he’s taken a step in the right direction in taking this interview on.
I agree that there are so many things he should've done but in reality how often do we all shy away from confrontation? It's not easy. Especially when you hear what these people think of you.
@@memefortime that’s true.
He doesn’t owe anyone anything.
@@DanielVazquez-td5wc he did take an experience away from pat he will never get back while knowingly cheating.
Yawn
Chase went into full carrying dad mode. Well done!
I really appreciated this. I think too many people can't put themselves in others shoes. Empathy is dead.
Haha Dad Mode activated
This feels so much like Ricky is being sort of scapegoated and hung out to dry... ....this whole situation seems like it's going to eventually blow up in CrossFit's face. This is not to discredit CrossFit athletes generally, they are unbelievably talented and fit.
Dude is an assassin. I love Mat, but I’m glad Ricky has been out of competition for the last 4 years, because he would’ve beaten Mat. Ricky is elite of the elite and doesn’t have the luxury of the top American athletes, where they’re making a good living and living the professional sportsman lifestyle. Ricky is a blue collar bloke from the coast who grafts and has the mindset to win.
If CF knew before they filmed Redeemed and the Dominant... Who is to say, with this interview... maybe they know something now?
There is no angle here, just letting Ricky speak his truth.
Man just come out with it and say it.
I appreciate him coming clean but as an Aussie his explanation about being ignorant I f what it was is suss. The year he's speaking of everyone knew what it was due to very public exposes in Australian Rules Football. Also you can't sell sarms over the desk in Australia full stop, so the story about it being offered in a supplement shop doesn't make sense either.
Just to make it clear though, he did the crime, he's done the time, he had a lot of bravery to front up and move forward, we are not all this courageous, good for him and this is a great interview on both sides
This would have been such a better interview if Sevan was the interviewer.
It’s all about his attitude. We’ll see what he reveals.
Cue Ricky trying to remember the things people have told him to say or how to answer
#moreplatesmoredates
9 mins in, 4 ads!
Get it Ricky. Your body language tells it all. This "interview" was tough to watch. We all make mistakes. Turn it around and kick it.
He was driving on a highway to Sidney and was checking his emails 😔
No disrespect to Chase, I think he's a much better interviewer than he is a commentator at the Games. This is just my opinion.
100% agree.
Agree. Monologues way too much as a commentator.
2022 fittest on earth
He will never in his wildest dreams
He kept Pat off the podium and he still doesn’t think he owes him an apology. Trashy selfish move from Ricky. The same mentality that made him cheat in the first place. No respect for the guy he hasn’t changed
Not a bad podcast, did not get too much from it, still think he (and his team) still acted like he was dumb to a lot of this, he took RAD140 which is a SARM, SARMS are explicitly a banned substance. I think at that age I would have tried to do exactly the same to be the best I can be to reach the top, however not the most ethical route cause I know how difficult it is to compete at that level without any boosters. Still have a liking for the guy and he owned up and served his suspension and think he is going to be a great addition back into the male competition side! Good luck mate
Murderer gets caught and admits to doing it
Morons in the comment section: Wow, what courage
I didn’t watch this whole thing. Did Ricky address the time he got caught cheating and then called CFHQ to falsely report that Mat Fraser was a cheater too? Claimed he had hard evidence and literally had nothing
Everyone has deserved a second chance in life. The punishment fit the crime. And if you want something so bad and are willing to do what ever it takes to get it thing like this happen and is totally human to fuck up and learn a lesson. Best of luck proving yourself in the future ricky
I am happy he is getting a chance to redeem himself but so much of this story doesn't line up. And people forget his brother got popped years later for Sarms too. You don't just take sarms thinking it's another supplement. Him playing coy about this is proof he is just trying to save face.
this is what I keep saying! I feel like everyone has conveniently forgotten about that. I truly hope he does come back clean and get's a fresh start but I'm still sceptical....
This could be true, but his story could be true too! Why not believe the good?
We all know no one competing there is clean, Ricky always was just the scapegoat.
@@kobilee9504 Do you truly believe everyone is doping? Do you think it's similar to the top Tour De France athletes? Everyone has great doctors that help them beat the test?
@@memefortime I know pros in tennis who dope. So in a sport which is solely reliant on fitness somehow people being clean seems so unprobable. Look at the women in crossfit. That is no natural physique, natural female bodybuilders who exclusively train for the looks don't come close to that.
Crossfit: Let us ban him for four years but not test him (one time a the very end) and give him a whitewash opportunity to promote the sport. Really? Can you Chase please do a follow up with his brother Ben? I would love to watch/hear that!
I was pretty puzzled on why he wasn't test MORE often during his ban if he planned on coming back.
We all know no one competing there is clean, Ricky always was just the scapegoat.
This is painful 😬
Just let USADA do the testing and the CrossFit Games would be so much more legitimate.
Well done Chase. The most difficult person to interview. Thick
So he took PEDs on regionals Weekend? But came clean through that PED-Test that weekend?
4 year ban. Damn dog
Oprah Ingram
Haha!!
Big takeaway - drug testing at regionals doesn’t work??
Well, as Ricky described the process of testing during games isn't rock solid either, if no one is watching you actually peeing into the cup.
Ricky Gerard's father and brother sponsored his drugs. So no problem looking in their eyes
Come on if 95% of pro exercisers aren't juicy wuicying I'll chop my huh hum... off
Ricky should've just given a false sample like everyone else did.
Mat won, he really should apologize to Pat for taking away standing on the podium in that moment.
He already did numbnuts
He needs go write Pat a $10k check, hhmmm lol
@@darkmxhishot7475 then why did he say, on this interview, that he hasn’t talked to Pat and he doesn’t believe he owes him an apology numbnuts??
It’s spelled Mat
@@CorbinBowman02 Thanks “that guy”