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It's probably because you're playing zero build, i see a lot of people pick up the pump in builds. The auto and pump are more equal there, but at the end of the day it comes down to playstyle.
The fact that Peter McSniffins pump only does 190 and not 200 is crazy, meanwhile the random tigers shotgun is doing 137 with an extremely fast fire rate.
I think it's less the Pump needing a buff, more the Frenzy needing a nerf. It literally does Tac Damage with Drum Shotgun firerate. I would like to see it replaced with a normal Tac-Style shotgun, then the meta would be really fun, diverse and balanced. Maybe add the Dragon's Breath Shotgun and Charge Shotgun, and we got a banger Shotgun meta.
The fact that a mythic pump gets out damaged by a green auto shows you somethings wrong with the balance. The auto shotgun feels like the weakest gun when you use it but when its you against it it just melts you
I was playing duos with the homie and after a while I was just like “listen. We’re landing lavish. Either we die trying to get the auto shotty or we win because we have it.”
Frenzy shotgun dps needs to be decrease by 50% and even than itll probably still be strong as it will tone it down to around the drum shotgun strength and we all love the drum shotgun😒
why do i feel this on a spiritual level. maybe its a skill issue tbh but everytime i use it its a fucking pea shooter, YET everytime i get MELTED by it
i think the main problem with the new pump is the spread pattern. if you compare it to the old pump, you can see that is has less pellets and the spread pattern is odd
Let alone the fact that finding legendary variants of either gun are near impossible. I’ve only ran into five pump legendaries, let alone only 2 Auto Shotties making the mythics basically the only high level past epic you’ll find.
One shot sniper seasons and an auto shotgun meta are usually bad seasons. Seasons like chapter 4 season 1 and 2 had pump and ar metas and it felt more skill based. So hopefully next season a better pump is added
I usually run the pump in zero builds but then I get reminded why the other shotgun is better to use. They definitely need to buff the pump to even come close to competing with the auto shotty.
drum mag with a laser is insane in zero build. you need an follow up weapon with the pump and the equip time swapping between the two guns is just too long to compete with the auto
He knows the rarity if each weapon on the cases because they show the attachments, like you can see the laser , angled grip , and the mag and even the scope
statistically, if not considering the drop rate of different rarities, he would have had a 1 in 243 chance of getting all those weapon rarities right in the vault
To be fair the frenzy shotgun is better with no build and the hammer is meant for building. If I shot with the hammer shot gun you need a stray weapon, but since the frenzy doesn't need a stray weapon you can just spam it and it makes it better in no build
I feel like the gold pump should do at least 200 max damage and mythic somewhere above that. The constant need to switch to a different gun to finish an opponent is like second nature to people now. But that being said it doesn’t make sense when you have a grey pump and can’t one pump with a gold, very odd values. (These values are slightly more redundant in zero build considering more health but even then that seems like more of a reason for it to break white health.)
I feel like they should add a new mod to make the pump have a faster fire rate or if they add arguments there should be one to make the pump have a faster fire rate
the pump is about even in power in builds imo, the edit shoot reset edit shoot is as strong as running into a box with the auto, but obviously the aito is waaaaay better in no builds
the frenzy auto doesnt need a nerf tbh i think its just that the pumps this season are trash, a full meatshot should not require a headshot just to pass 100 damage ESPECIALLY when the current aa12 can do as much dmg as it does
they litterally need to nerf the frenzy and buff the hammer pump like dude you can't just spam and 2 shot kill someone it's like if an ar did 120 damage per shot
I disagree with this statement that there is a gap between power of the shotguns. There IS a real balance , if you use their strengths. 1. First delay(when , for example, we edit the wall and we shoot from the shotgun ,there is a little delay with an animation of taking shotgun in the hands): In the new pump , there is LITERALLY NO FIRST DELAY! You can edit , shoot , and reset the wall in just 0.5 seconds!(while with normal pump it took 1,5 seconds!)*approximate*. This is the biggest strength of the pump. 2. Combos: The new pump is designed to be used with an smg , we use Pump as a litteral "hammer in the second hand" , to make a decent damage for the opponent , and to finish it with an smg , and the again use the "Hammer", if the opponent is not killed(I wonder Fortnite called the Pump "Hammer Shotgun" , because of this ability lmao). 3. Superiority in different modes: I agree , that Frenzy Automatic is OP in Zero build, making 260 damage in just 2 fast headshots. But in build mode it sucks, only if you choose to play risky and trying to go 50/50s(you should play like that with Frenzy). And that is literally a gamble of the game. The pump is more , really more efficient in a Build Mode , and used in a more protective way (properly) , with First Delay and using smg. While HJDoogan played only Zero Build , he didn't use its full power. 4. Damage: We saw at the beginning of the video, what damage the Pump and Frenzy do. In Build Mode , for the kill, you need: 190 from pump(mythical) + a single bullet from any of the weapons(any rarity, even gray), takes twice less time that 2 shots from Frenzy 136 damage. In Zero build Frenzy still does in two shots , and with Pump it's 190 + 1 burst from Burst SMG. A little longer that Frenzy. To conclude all this: Pump easily takes over Frenzy in Build Mode , while in Zero Build its a complete opposite. So , yeah, this comment is so nerdy even I didn't expect to write so much , but you should not underestimate pump lovers😂❤️
I literally predicted before the season began to my friends that the frenzy would prob be broken seeing its a drum round base shotgun and who knew its the only thing we use in every match because the pump is just so ass
Has anyone used the new customizable default skin I bought one and made it nothing but black and playing a few games with it. It's crazy how very little people can hardly see you even with the sheath camo with the weapon skins
Bro the pump is so good in builds cause you can edit and shit so you have protection. In no builds the auto shotgun is better ofc haha. So it doesn’t have to be buffed I think
yeah I've literally started only running the pump shotty. I'm boycotting the frenzy it's just too broken. i feel like a no skill player when i use it it just deletes people instantly. its range is crazy too I'll get melted in 2 seconds at 20 meters but the pump does like 12 at that distance.
5:25 perfectly sums up the pump this season... like what even happened?! 😭
“WEAVE” is the only explanation
you are the best
@saint7568 wasn't on about the damage, was more on about the strange asf animation of the fish skin when I shot, legit moved out the way somehow
It's probably because you're playing zero build, i see a lot of people pick up the pump in builds. The auto and pump are more equal there, but at the end of the day it comes down to playstyle.
@saint7568exactly it’s so trash
The new frenzy shotgun is just flat out broken. The mythic pump shotgun doesn’t even get past a gold havoc
Grey
so unbalanced
both mythic and gold pump do the same damage so in fact the gold pump is even better than the mythic pump because u can use the mods that u want
@@Iker3329_ nah the gold pump is slightly slower. The gold spaz doesn’t do as much damage as either beside body shots weirdly enough
@@KingAkuThe1st no im not capping go and try hit a max damage in creative with the gold one it does 190
The fact that Peter McSniffins pump only does 190 and not 200 is crazy, meanwhile the random tigers shotgun is doing 137 with an extremely fast fire rate.
peter mcsniffins 😂😂
im happy it doesnt do 200 because i could be destroying someone, i jump in his box and then he 200 pumps me
But its a mythic pump it should do that@@2Lettername
3:25 Bros the 🐐of predicting rarities🔥🗣️
That was actually the best thing I’ve seen in this season since snipers got nerfed
you can tell what rarity by the number of attachments on the board@@KirbysFakePunt
The amount of attachments mean what rarity it is
I was absolutely baffled too until I realized he was just counting the attachments 🤣🤦🏾♂️💀💀
That gold made me sploige
I think it's less the Pump needing a buff, more the Frenzy needing a nerf.
It literally does Tac Damage with Drum Shotgun firerate.
I would like to see it replaced with a normal Tac-Style shotgun, then the meta would be really fun, diverse and balanced.
Maybe add the Dragon's Breath Shotgun and Charge Shotgun, and we got a banger Shotgun meta.
You might be onto something.
Who ever picks up a dragons breath .
Bro that would be my favorite season of that ever happeneds than it really skill
It don't even matter. Still gonna die in 1 shot to a green sniper 😂
how does it feel to be this wrong?
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the auto shotgun is like the overclocked pulse rifle, once you have it there’s no way to lose
The fact that a mythic pump gets out damaged by a green auto shows you somethings wrong with the balance. The auto shotgun feels like the weakest gun when you use it but when its you against it it just melts you
I was playing duos with the homie and after a while I was just like “listen. We’re landing lavish. Either we die trying to get the auto shotty or we win because we have it.”
How the hell does he know what is the loot is gone be in the vault chests?🤣🤣🤣👌👌
inside sources
The number of weapon mods
Blue has 2 attachments. Purple has 3
@@businesscactus and that gold one surprised him with 4 whole attachments
Frenzy shotgun dps needs to be decrease by 50% and even than itll probably still be strong as it will tone it down to around the drum shotgun strength and we all love the drum shotgun😒
I swear your videos are the most funny edited vids 😂😂😂😂
I hate the auto shotgun, it literally kills me instantly but it barely does any damage at all when I use it. It needs to be debuffed in damage
why do i feel this on a spiritual level. maybe its a skill issue tbh but everytime i use it its a fucking pea shooter, YET everytime i get MELTED by it
@@iBeerus-it needs to have the laser
@@kyle-cl1by bruh
@@iBeerus- how is that a bruh moment
@@kyle-cl1by why tf does it have to have the laser
It's not the pump that needs a buff.
It's the auto shotgun that needs a nerf.
he’s alive
he lives, hyped for the new season
Fr be hitting that Michael Jackson 😂
i think the main problem with the new pump is the spread pattern. if you compare it to the old pump, you can see that is has less pellets and the spread pattern is odd
We need the pretending to be Nisha and Valeria bosses! Another banger HJD! Welcome back! 🗣🗣🗣
Epic deserves jail time for this. Didn’t realize how bad it was
HJD back with another banger!
u good hj? u sound a lil depressed jus makin sure everythin goin well! fire vid as always
ultra fishstinct
That thing alone made me quit the game bruh 💀💀💀
Let alone the fact that finding legendary variants of either gun are near impossible. I’ve only ran into five pump legendaries, let alone only 2 Auto Shotties making the mythics basically the only high level past epic you’ll find.
Pump is better in builds for edit plays and faster reload but frenzy is definitely broken
Excellent pointing this out let's hope next season has a more balanced shotgun loot pool
Let's goo he posteddd
thats why i run around with both, a pump for the damage and a frenzy auto to spray
this game is actually at a low point rn, game is getting annoying💔
One shot sniper seasons and an auto shotgun meta are usually bad seasons. Seasons like chapter 4 season 1 and 2 had pump and ar metas and it felt more skill based. So hopefully next season a better pump is added
@@OSU23901 and nerf to auto
peak content right here
Completely forgot you were a CZcamsr. Definitely gonna start watching your videos again though.😂
You know it's fucked when people prefer a green auto to a *MYTHIC* pump...
Not to mention the Frenzy can fire 3-4 shots in the time it takes the Hammer to fire 2 🤦🏾♂️
Finally the goat has uploaded 😭😭😭😭
That trick with guessing the vault weapons is pretty clever!
Excellent video man
Bro went on vacation, glad u back tho
The pump needs a slight buff and the Frenzy needs a huge nerf.
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For the past week Hjdoogan learned how to tell the future
Annnnnd…BAZINGA 😂
I usually run the pump in zero builds but then I get reminded why the other shotgun is better to use. They definitely need to buff the pump to even come close to competing with the auto shotty.
HE’S BACKKKK
There you go bro the green frenzy over the gold pump says it all! 😂
There were people who kept saying it’s a skill issue that you can’t beat someone with an auto when you’re running a pump
Bro is back
A simple range buff would make it better for zero build while not making it to powerful in build
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Love your vids
Congrats! Your first 🫡🫡🫡👍
6:05 No 🤣😂 Drake🔥🔥
He finally uploaded🎉🎉🎉
Im glad that im not the only one
Ay nah
One thing you didn't consider was Zero Build vs Build mode. I see a lot more pumps at higher level build mode due to maximizing damage between edits.
drum mag with a laser is insane in zero build. you need an follow up weapon with the pump and the equip time swapping between the two guns is just too long to compete with the auto
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He knows the rarity if each weapon on the cases because they show the attachments, like you can see the laser , angled grip , and the mag and even the scope
3:22 get this man to a casino
through all of season 1 i never used the frenzy and i wanna say, those games i won were absolutely pure skill
statistically, if not considering the drop rate of different rarities, he would have had a 1 in 243 chance of getting all those weapon rarities right in the vault
W+M1 strat lets go!!!
To be fair the frenzy shotgun is better with no build and the hammer is meant for building. If I shot with the hammer shot gun you need a stray weapon, but since the frenzy doesn't need a stray weapon you can just spam it and it makes it better in no build
If you get the boss auto and boss smg you'll be a force to be reckoned with
I'm literally editing a vid combo-ing the anvil with the pump and I can safely say that the pump does need a buff
I feel like the gold pump should do at least 200 max damage and mythic somewhere above that. The constant need to switch to a different gun to finish an opponent is like second nature to people now. But that being said it doesn’t make sense when you have a grey pump and can’t one pump with a gold, very odd values. (These values are slightly more redundant in zero build considering more health but even then that seems like more of a reason for it to break white health.)
The Peter mythic is alright at 190
But the frenzy auto is stupid powerful
I think he’s able too tell what rarity it is by how many augments are in the case it shows them below the gun
Yo HJ did you see that you were featured on a top five gaming video?!
Yeah I'm even guilty of leaving the pump for the frenzy. Why? Because what happened in this video is ultimately what happens whenever I use the pump.
I feel like the Peter-pump is just way better in build mode.
I feel like they should add a new mod to make the pump have a faster fire rate or if they add arguments there should be one to make the pump have a faster fire rate
Yo hjd i think you shoukd do a pump tierlist cause fn got no content
You can even make it a little series
the pump is about even in power in builds imo, the edit shoot reset edit shoot is as strong as running into a box with the auto, but obviously the aito is waaaaay better in no builds
What do you think about the ninja turtles mythics?
the frenzy auto doesnt need a nerf tbh i think its just that the pumps this season are trash,
a full meatshot should not require a headshot just to pass 100 damage ESPECIALLY when the current aa12 can do as much dmg as it does
How some people get the old damage numbers ?
keep it up with the bangers my guy.... the hammer pump is the worst shotgun of the season rn they need to balance the drum
ive been raging everytime i get on, im so tired of the auto shotgun
In build mode the pump is actually good cus u can time ur edits to when the pump cd resets
I thought u was about to be the next fearless…
they litterally need to nerf the frenzy and buff the hammer pump like dude you can't just spam and 2 shot kill someone it's like if an ar did 120 damage per shot
I disagree with this statement that there is a gap between power of the shotguns. There IS a real balance , if you use their strengths.
1. First delay(when , for example, we edit the wall and we shoot from the shotgun ,there is a little delay with an animation of taking shotgun in the hands): In the new pump , there is LITERALLY NO FIRST DELAY! You can edit , shoot , and reset the wall in just 0.5 seconds!(while with normal pump it took 1,5 seconds!)*approximate*. This is the biggest strength of the pump.
2. Combos: The new pump is designed to be used with an smg , we use Pump as a litteral "hammer in the second hand" , to make a decent damage for the opponent , and to finish it with an smg , and the again use the "Hammer", if the opponent is not killed(I wonder Fortnite called the Pump "Hammer Shotgun" , because of this ability lmao).
3. Superiority in different modes:
I agree , that Frenzy Automatic is OP in Zero build, making 260 damage in just 2 fast headshots. But in build mode it sucks, only if you choose to play risky and trying to go 50/50s(you should play like that with Frenzy). And that is literally a gamble of the game.
The pump is more , really more efficient in a Build Mode , and used in a more protective way (properly) , with First Delay and using smg. While HJDoogan played only Zero Build , he didn't use its full power.
4. Damage:
We saw at the beginning of the video, what damage the Pump and Frenzy do.
In Build Mode , for the kill, you need:
190 from pump(mythical) + a single bullet from any of the weapons(any rarity, even gray), takes twice less time that 2 shots from Frenzy 136 damage.
In Zero build Frenzy still does in two shots , and with Pump it's 190 + 1 burst from Burst SMG. A little longer that Frenzy.
To conclude all this: Pump easily takes over Frenzy in Build Mode , while in Zero Build its a complete opposite.
So , yeah, this comment is so nerdy even I didn't expect to write so much , but you should not underestimate pump lovers😂❤️
Yes
try it on Builds and Show how its changes
Is the mythic frenzy broken? Yes
Do I pick it up over ninja turtle mythics? *no*
“i feel like i didn’t play this game for ages”
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I literally predicted before the season began to my friends that the frenzy would prob be broken seeing its a drum round base shotgun and who knew its the only thing we use in every match because the pump is just so ass
Has anyone used the new customizable default skin I bought one and made it nothing but black and playing a few games with it. It's crazy how very little people can hardly see you even with the sheath camo with the weapon skins
I was waiting for an upload
Bro the pump is so good in builds cause you can edit and shit so you have protection. In no builds the auto shotgun is better ofc haha. So it doesn’t have to be buffed I think
0:33 eh us guri pai, não tem
I never come this early to a hjdoogan vid
Tbh if they make the auto shotty's crosshair like super masive then id would balance everything so since youll miss 30% more bullets
There is about free people around here 💀
yeah I've literally started only running the pump shotty. I'm boycotting the frenzy it's just too broken. i feel like a no skill player when i use it it just deletes people instantly. its range is crazy too I'll get melted in 2 seconds at 20 meters but the pump does like 12 at that distance.
Man the pump doesn't need a buff... The auto needs a nerf
The pump needs a buff, and you know it😭
The pump is a literal joke this chapter. Shouldn’t even be in the game with how useless it is
They should’ve done this AND nerfed the frenzy auto, AND added a THIRD shotgun of this chapter a long, long time ago.
the frenzy ruins a lot of the fun of close combat for me, its just about spraying that damn shotgun till you get an elim, no skill involved
At this point i trust hip firing a sniper more than the pump
well to be fair, zero builds is an absolute no diff for the auto. The pump shines in box fights