Yep, just bought a radio with this on, the instructions makes no sense at all. You do, and made me realise that ill never use it. As you say.... Switch the channel. Thank you for time saving my life.
This is a perfect explanation. All the other videos i found are missing the basic explanation of what Squelch is, before they go into all the tone settings. You have great teaching skills.
Wow. What a difference semantics can make. I really thought these codes provided some level of privacy, when in fact they are just specific filters. Dang. I appreciated the explanation of how they are useful on repeaters. VERY helpful.
Nuisance Filter would have been a better term. I've always known and understood PL and DPL, but also assumed that most people had the wrong interpretation of what its function was. Glad you could explain it for everyone.
Thank you. I just purchased GMRS walkies for my son and I. I accidentally discovered how non-private those codes were. But I'm not sure I did a good job of explaining it to him. He will be watching this tomorrow. Huge thank you in explaining the repeater use for the tones.
The only time I've ever had a use for the "privacy codes" on my gmrs radio's is at festivals when don't necessarily want to hear everyone's transmission.
You are very good at explaining this things, can you help me with my 2 baofeng BF T-1? I allready programed it, it works but only within 100 meters between them, and it picks up a local repeater in my are from 3 km away! It doesn't make sense! I know repeaters are stronger then handheld radios, but I see a lot videos here on youtube of people doing range tests, and they work really good with 4 km between them or more. I really like this model would love to use it.
Can each sender/receiver only have a single CTS or DTS "tone" selected? Or do some radios allow you to set more than one tone for even more selectivity?
How do people on a locality "agree" which frequencies their respective groups should use? Do you just listen for a while on a particular band to check that there's no traffic?
The private codes Motorola uses has its sense of privacy, meaning that only those in the same frequency and code will be able to talk. It should be more used as private listening and no privacy at all for what you say. However the word PRIVACY (PRIVATE) implied by them is really misleading as you well explained. Thanks for the video.
Question: If I have my GMRS channel e.g., channel 23 set to a PL tone of 250.3 (or the designated repeater tone) and there is no local repeater, the radio will still transmit and receive in simplex?
If you have a UV-5R and you are listening to DCS-encoded transmissions with your R-DCS set to OFF, you will hear the transmissions, but if you transmit, the other users will not hear you unless you have your T-DCS set to the correct code. The digital code is not audible, only the circuitry within the radio detects it.
Specific frequency, say 462.68750, is to specific telephone number, say 212-123-4567, as CTCSS or DCS, say 67.0 or 023, is to the "extension" number - is that accurate to say? Meaning, you can dial in the frequency, but if it has that code and you don't know or include it, you won't be able to "talk" to the other end?
I work in the soundboard at my church, theirs a lot of witless microphones, and something’s on our radio interferes with other church equipments. What would be better in my situation, DCS, or CTCSS?
Most programming sites for handhelds demo a CTCS for transmit side only. If the repeater has PL in and out, shouldn’t you enter both? Or is there a reason to only have it on one side
If you only want to hear traffic on that frequency that comes from the repeater, enter the tone on your radio's receive too, in addition to your radio's transmit...if you want to be able to talk into the repeater, but hear both traffic on that frequency originating from the repeater AND anywhere else, enter the tone into your radio's transmit only, and leave the receive open (carrier squelch only).
The thing that always kind of bothered me with the idea of using CTCSS/DCS is mainly that I could be stepping on someone else's conversation without even realizing it bc I'm not looking at the radio.
can you tell me what's the real Difference, say we are at the camp ground chatting between family members say, is there any noticeable difference in using dcs or ctcss? I can't find any videos about the difference in using the two. . you did a great job of explaining it all though, very good and thank you, thumbs up!
You won't notice a difference between either DCS or CTCSS. DCS is newer digital technology. Using either at a camp will only cause confusion since others will still hear you but if they try to talk to you they won't hear you since they don't know what code you have programmed. You're probably better off just finding an empty channel to talk on. Hope that helps.
what GMRS channels and FRS channels can unlicensed users, use. like for family use. but also on high frequency? I just ordered Midland GXT1000VP4 and the users manual sais. The radio operates on GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) frequencies which require an FCC (Federal Communications Commission) license. You must be licensed prior to operating on channels 1 - 7 or 15 - 22, which comprise the GMRS channels of the radios. Serious penalties could result from unlicensed use of GMRS channels, in violation of FCC rules, as stipulated in the Communications Acts Sections 501 and 502 (amended). Please let me know, because I seen youtubers using channel 18 on GMRS and I highly doubt he had a FCC license because he probably would have mentioned it.
The FCC rules on GMRS just changed last year and as I understand it, licenses are no longer required for most common radios such as your Midlands to use. www.arrl.org/news/fcc-personal-radio-service-revisions-will-affect-gmrs-frs-cb-other-part-95-devices
Variable thank you for taking the time to respond and provide me with that link, but unfortunately I am even more confused by reading that link lol. So the radio I just ordered which is a GMRS/FRS radio needs to get a license from the fcc? That article doesn't show that this is in effect, just talks. I think I should call the fcc, because this is all way to confusing, and I don't want any problems, nor do I feel like calling out call signs between myself and the people in my house / home business. Ridiculous rules for walkie talkies, in my opinion.
@@christopherm8168 the FCC couldn't tell me the location of the transmission towers after the last repack of TV frequencies.. you thing there going after people on FRS/GMRS frequencies? The one think they know is how to cash the checks they got from the frequencies they sold to the telecom companies...
why don't they market it as a filter group or a squelch group? name it after what it actually does. not something that has nothing to do with what it does.
Those handheld radios area a toy really. Good only really if you are working apart from others on a larger installation in the outdoors or going hiking etc. But otherwise turn one on at home and get ready to hear a heap of people 50 miles away with powerful transmitters who can't hear a thing you say back!
Very well explained, thank you. After 8 years, still useful! 73.
Yep, just bought a radio with this on, the instructions makes no sense at all. You do, and made me realise that ill never use it. As you say.... Switch the channel. Thank you for time saving my life.
This is a perfect explanation. All the other videos i found are missing the basic explanation of what Squelch is, before they go into all the tone settings. You have great teaching skills.
@Mana Glaubke This video is about radio communication. Not about instagram or about hacking.
Best CTCSS & DCS explained video I've seen. Simple but very informative.
LORD TAVISH I agree.
Thanks!
Great video, thanks
Zx
Wow. What a difference semantics can make. I really thought these codes provided some level of privacy, when in fact they are just specific filters. Dang. I appreciated the explanation of how they are useful on repeaters. VERY helpful.
The privacy they provide is basically the same as wearing a blindfold on a nude beach. Everyone else's stuff is private yours isn't.
Just bought baofeng and you basically explained to total amateur all necessary about ctcss and dcs... Great mate! Thanks!
Awesome now this little YL will be all ears and transmitting like a trucker!
Nuisance Filter would have been a better term.
I've always known and understood PL and DPL, but also assumed that most people had the wrong interpretation of what its function was. Glad you could explain it for everyone.
Thank you. I just purchased GMRS walkies for my son and I. I accidentally discovered how non-private those codes were. But I'm not sure I did a good job of explaining it to him. He will be watching this tomorrow.
Huge thank you in explaining the repeater use for the tones.
Very well done. So true that nothing is private (and that actual range is usually 10% of the advertised range).
Absolutely the best explanation and demonstration in the universe since the Big Bang 😂👍
Lol jesus christ, people are gonna think I paid you to say that 😂
Great explanation of what 'privacy' really means. Always wondered how a transmission would be private short of encryption. Glad I found your video.
Was trying to figure out what CTCSS/dcs functions did. Your video explained it clearly. Thank you!
Thank You. I liked the part of how you explained the privacy code term that is used by marketing.
You should do more Instructional videos on VHF/UHF radio features & functions. Great explanation. Well spoken and presented. Thanks
This was a VERY good explanation. Thank you !
Wow thank you. Now I understand CTCSS and DCS.
Great video! Answered all my questions.. Thanks for posting this
Thanks for the bottom line explanation.
Straight to the point 👍🏼nice video.
Finally, this makes sense!!!! Thank you!
Very clear, easy for beginners, PL also explained
Thanks a lot, very clear explanation!
Great explanation. Thank you.
Nice video, very enlightening. thx
Thank you. I've been telling this to people on other videos.
Bam 💥
You made this so much clearer then I’ve ever heard
Thank you for this video
Wrka431
Great explanation probably the best one on yt
Very helpful, thanks.
Note , a repeater does not receive on same freq it transmits on .
My TM-D710G can scan tones. I haven’t used this feature. Will it locate the required PL tone automatically for a given frequency?
The only time I've ever had a use for the "privacy codes" on my gmrs radio's is at festivals when don't necessarily want to hear everyone's transmission.
Well explained!
A lot of good info. But, what's the correct setting to configure my UV5R to be able to send and receive? Hopefully using CHIRP.
You are very good at explaining this things, can you help me with my 2 baofeng BF T-1? I allready programed it, it works but only within 100 meters between them, and it picks up a local repeater in my are from 3 km away! It doesn't make sense! I know repeaters are stronger then handheld radios, but I see a lot videos here on youtube of people doing range tests, and they work really good with 4 km between them or more. I really like this model would love to use it.
Does having a heigher ctcss exaple 244.7 has any different or effect on transmission as if i was to use 67.0 or 103.5
Can each sender/receiver only have a single CTS or DTS "tone" selected? Or do some radios allow you to set more than one tone for even more selectivity?
So basically it's an ," Ignoring" sort of thing.....and what we can't hear can't hurt us.
How do people on a locality "agree" which frequencies their respective groups should use? Do you just listen for a while on a particular band to check that there's no traffic?
The private codes Motorola uses has its sense of privacy, meaning that only those in the same frequency and code will be able to talk. It should be more used as private listening and no privacy at all for what you say. However the word PRIVACY (PRIVATE) implied by them is really misleading as you well explained. Thanks for the video.
Question:
If I have my GMRS channel e.g., channel 23 set to a PL tone of 250.3 (or the designated repeater tone) and there is no local repeater, the radio will still transmit and receive in simplex?
I can't speak for every radio out there but typically yes, tones can be used in simplex.
So if people are using DCS can you hear the conversation if you have the R-DCS to off on your uv5r, and if you can do you just hear the digital code?
If you have a UV-5R and you are listening to DCS-encoded transmissions with your R-DCS set to OFF, you will hear the transmissions, but if you transmit, the other users will not hear you unless you have your T-DCS set to the correct code. The digital code is not audible, only the circuitry within the radio detects it.
Is it possible to have a uv5r conjoined with a bunch of Motorola CP200s ?? I need a better radio for work.
Specific frequency, say 462.68750, is to specific telephone number, say 212-123-4567, as CTCSS or DCS, say 67.0 or 023, is to the "extension" number - is that accurate to say? Meaning, you can dial in the frequency, but if it has that code and you don't know or include it, you won't be able to "talk" to the other end?
Is the code waveform on through out the entire duration of the message? Or does it just start with the tone and listens until audio is gone?
Rostislav Persion to my knowledge, the sub-audible tone is transmitted for the entire duration with CTCSS, not sure about DCS
I work in the soundboard at my church, theirs a lot of witless microphones, and something’s on our radio interferes with other church equipments. What would be better in my situation, DCS, or CTCSS?
Billiam William either will perform the same function, although I've never seen wireless stage mics with CTCSS or DCS, only two-way radios.
What brand of equipment are you using? Is any of the equipment windows based?
PL - Private Line (Motorola)
Channel Guard (GE Radios)
Most programming sites for handhelds demo a CTCS for transmit side only. If the repeater has PL in and out, shouldn’t you enter both? Or is there a reason to only have it on one side
If you only want to hear traffic on that frequency that comes from the repeater, enter the tone on your radio's receive too, in addition to your radio's transmit...if you want to be able to talk into the repeater, but hear both traffic on that frequency originating from the repeater AND anywhere else, enter the tone into your radio's transmit only, and leave the receive open (carrier squelch only).
what if scrambler and ctcss are both switched on.. is that possible? nice video though...
Finally !!!!
Whats the difference between T-Ctcss and R-Ctcss? or vice versa with DCS codes?
please correct me if wring ct 27 is 162.2 not 167.9
Basically, CTCSS & DCS is best to be turned off?
Yes.
The privacy is for the people not wanting to hear unwanted people's conversations
Yeah, but wouldn't you feel safer if you could hear them talking to know they're not eavesdropping?
The thing that always kind of bothered me with the idea of using CTCSS/DCS is mainly that I could be stepping on someone else's conversation without even realizing it bc I'm not looking at the radio.
IOf you each don't have the same ct code set, you will NOT step on him, nor will you if he HAS a code set and you don't
can you please make a video of what is CROSS, TSQL, and DTCS please?
Jara FPV Not sure what those are. They might be specific terms related to a particular radio or software.
@@VariableThisIsKnife chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/MemoryEditorColumns you can probably understand it way more better than me
Ahhhh he said hamheld ooohhh he hungry buy him a subway haha
Subway sucks...Jersey Mike's or Jimmy Johns all the way
can you tell me what's the real Difference, say we are at the camp ground chatting between family members say, is there any noticeable difference in using dcs or ctcss? I can't find any videos about the difference in using the two. . you did a great job of explaining it all though, very good and thank you, thumbs up!
You won't notice a difference between either DCS or CTCSS. DCS is newer digital technology. Using either at a camp will only cause confusion since others will still hear you but if they try to talk to you they won't hear you since they don't know what code you have programmed. You're probably better off just finding an empty channel to talk on. Hope that helps.
you use ctcss for an analog radio and dcs on digital radios, not either/or.
It’s actually 2:54 lol
what GMRS channels and FRS channels can unlicensed users, use. like for family use. but also on high frequency? I just ordered Midland GXT1000VP4 and the users manual sais. The radio operates on GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) frequencies which require an FCC (Federal Communications Commission) license. You must be licensed prior to operating on channels 1 - 7 or 15 - 22, which comprise the GMRS channels of the radios. Serious penalties could result from unlicensed use of GMRS channels, in violation of FCC rules, as stipulated in the Communications Acts Sections 501 and 502 (amended). Please let me know, because I seen youtubers using channel 18 on GMRS and I highly doubt he had a FCC license because he probably would have mentioned it.
The FCC rules on GMRS just changed last year and as I understand it, licenses are no longer required for most common radios such as your Midlands to use.
www.arrl.org/news/fcc-personal-radio-service-revisions-will-affect-gmrs-frs-cb-other-part-95-devices
Variable thank you for taking the time to respond and provide me with that link, but unfortunately I am even more confused by reading that link lol. So the radio I just ordered which is a GMRS/FRS radio needs to get a license from the fcc? That article doesn't show that this is in effect, just talks. I think I should call the fcc, because this is all way to confusing, and I don't want any problems, nor do I feel like calling out call signs between myself and the people in my house / home business. Ridiculous rules for walkie talkies, in my opinion.
@@christopherm8168 the FCC couldn't tell me the location of the transmission towers after the last repack of TV frequencies.. you thing there going after people on FRS/GMRS frequencies? The one think they know is how to cash the checks they got from the frequencies they sold to the telecom companies...
Um , bells and whistles .
why don't they market it as a filter group or a squelch group? name it after what it actually does. not something that has nothing to do with what it does.
ANYWAY NO: ANYWAYS
Yup, just change channel.
Lke Number 265
Those handheld radios area a toy really. Good only really if you are working apart from others on a larger installation in the outdoors or going hiking etc. But otherwise turn one on at home and get ready to hear a heap of people 50 miles away with powerful transmitters who can't hear a thing you say back!
So, basically, CTCSS and DCS is absolute BS and don’t need to be used. Sounds like an absolute useless feature to me.
Not useless, repeaters heavily rely on them for example. The only thing that's BS is the marketing claim that they somehow enhance your privacy.