ABC Nightline 1984 - The Jacksons Victory Tour controversy

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  • @isuriadireja91
    @isuriadireja91 Před 9 měsíci +275

    If you consider the fact that there's never been an Off the Wall or Thriller Tour, and instead there were Triumph and Victory Tours..you gotta commend Michael for being that humble and putting his family first before his own ego, despite the mega huge successes of those two solo albums of his.

    • @freebandz4332
      @freebandz4332 Před 9 měsíci +44

      His family forced him

    • @kirbykipling9515
      @kirbykipling9515 Před 9 měsíci +26

      Sooo very true. It was also a huge sacrifice considering how much he loathed touring & all it entailed. ALWAYS a fan of The Jacksons, including Jermaine 😂😂

    • @XP9724
      @XP9724 Před 9 měsíci +24

      I think it was smart too, u get to get 4 catalogues in 1 show. The Jackson 5 hits, The Jacksons hits at the time, MJ solo hits, and Jermaine's solo hits cuz he was on a run of top 40 hits before and after the tour. I wish they would've actually performed music from the actual Victory album tho, a live performance of Torture would've been great

    • @KDashSix
      @KDashSix Před 9 měsíci +17

      I can’t even imagine a solo ‘Thriller’ tour… Would’ve done the biggest numbers in history, point-blank. Period.

    • @pagandeva2000
      @pagandeva2000 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@XP9724 I heard something about how the record sales for that album really didn’t do well enough to justify adding any songs from it. Personally, I would’ve loved State of Shock being played on tour

  • @princenamor1939
    @princenamor1939 Před 10 měsíci +163

    I was making $3.60 an hour, stood in line for 4 hours with an injured back and got two tickets in the 18th row, $30 apiece. It was worth it!

  • @jrodindigo
    @jrodindigo Před 10 měsíci +183

    What's heartbreaking about this is.... this was originally supposed to be Michael solo tour for Thriller. His parents pressured him into bringing his brothers on the road because some of them had money issues. Don King got involved and made things worse. I went to the show and it was awesome, but it was bittersweet knowing all of this.

    • @MrBlackBono
      @MrBlackBono Před 9 měsíci

      I knew having don king was not a good idea that dude is a theif

    • @tanishakennedy4616
      @tanishakennedy4616 Před 9 měsíci +7

      That's not true! Michael was on the album with his brothers a long with the Thriller album

    • @MsTrueTy
      @MsTrueTy Před 9 měsíci +37

      ​@@tanishakennedy4616It's true the brothers had money problems. So Michael decided to do the Jacksons tour when originally he was supposed to promote Thriller. So in a way he is right. Michael was pressured. But he only agreed to do it if he had a solo segment for the thriller hits. I believe because he learned of the ticket scandal he donated his own earnings to bring down the tickets. But he left the tour was the first leg was over. There is A lot! That happened look up the channel the Detail. Michael was very upset about this tour. And retired from the Jacksons while on this tour

    • @MrBlackBono
      @MrBlackBono Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@MsTrueTy it make sense cause for long time I was saying thriller is the only one that didn’t have a tour I was like what happened

    • @KDC256
      @KDC256 Před 9 měsíci +13

      ​@@MsTrueTyYou'd have to wonder why it never dawned on Michael Jackson's brothers, "You know, I don't seem to be making much income unless I'm performing with my brother Michael. I need to find ways of generating personal income for myself independent of Michael."

  • @ricky6935
    @ricky6935 Před rokem +156

    I was there.. Neyland Stadium in Knoxville Tennessee in 1984, they sold out the stadium 3 nights in a row!! That was in 84, have never seen another tour of this magnitude since and its 2023. the Jackson's are EPIC and legends! Its crazy then to have Michael and Janet break off and be 2 of the biggest pop stars to date. that's pretty damn cool 🔥🔥🔥💯❤️❤️❤️

    • @Cedrclovesutube
      @Cedrclovesutube Před 10 měsíci +1

      Totally agree

    • @for-house-stark
      @for-house-stark Před 10 měsíci

      ​@july3410lmao, you think because Taylor swifts concert tickets are more expensive than the victory tour that it makes her bigger than Michael jackson at his peak? You're delusional af. Jackson drew far bigger crowds, had more concert attendances and sold far more records than failure swift ever could

    • @tatkoy8963
      @tatkoy8963 Před 10 měsíci +36

      ⁠@july3410bro su we don’t care about Taylor she can’t hold a candle to Michael Jackson he has more talent in his finger than her whole body

    • @fredstriker2042
      @fredstriker2042 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Was row 2 on the field show 1 in Knoxville. My Mother must have been really putting it to the idiot she was gold digging

    • @fredstriker2042
      @fredstriker2042 Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@july3410 or perhaps he doesn't waste his money on crap like Taylor

  • @jacquettamckinney1864
    @jacquettamckinney1864 Před rokem +173

    You mean I could have seen The Jacksons for $30 bucks a ticket!!!! If only I was born 😢!!!!!

    • @amiramir-qg7xv
      @amiramir-qg7xv Před 11 měsíci +50

      $30 back then is $80 today

    • @MJforevermoonwalking
      @MJforevermoonwalking Před 10 měsíci +18

      Fr because now tickets are over 100 to over a thousand dollars

    • @wilmmerwest3876
      @wilmmerwest3876 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@amiramir-qg7xvWasn’t too expensive or something??

    • @oatlaskennedy1308
      @oatlaskennedy1308 Před 10 měsíci +40

      I’d pay 80 bucks to see Michael Jackson live in his prime.

    • @Bobbyreindeer
      @Bobbyreindeer Před 10 měsíci

      It was greedy money back then

  • @mrg8581
    @mrg8581 Před 9 měsíci +37

    I miss Michael Jackson and the 1980s. Rest in peace Michael.

    • @POLOGEE
      @POLOGEE Před 9 měsíci +5

      Nothing was better than the 80's!!!

    • @alf2410
      @alf2410 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The 80’s being in high school was the best.. loving Madonna and Michael so much.

    • @galenjoyce8895
      @galenjoyce8895 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Michael Jackson and the 80's. Such a fun time.

  • @nah....6151
    @nah....6151 Před 10 měsíci +77

    funny how in 1984 $30 (which is about 80 today) was seen as highway robbery but nowadays with scalpers you can't even get into the stadium to see Taylor for under $1000

    • @supercoolyguy
      @supercoolyguy Před 9 měsíci +3

      @$1k ea.
      If 6-8 Swifties got together they could get a sky suite.
      This just happened via FB. The only seats available in Seattle.

    • @mikeyj990ify
      @mikeyj990ify Před 9 měsíci +3

      Pearl jam fought ticketmaster over prices and they were about $28 to see a popular band in the 90s

    • @mikeyj990ify
      @mikeyj990ify Před 9 měsíci +2

      So $30 in mid 80s prob was robbery

    • @mrg8581
      @mrg8581 Před 9 měsíci

      People in Detroit paid over $1,500 for tickets to Swift's concert at Ford Field. Insane.

    • @nah....6151
      @nah....6151 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@mikeyj990ify it wasn't really robbery though. MJ was the biggest star in the world at the time (the same way Taylor is today) so its understandable that tix to see him were a little higher, but ultimately 30 really wasn't that insane for ticket prices comparative to how you need to take a loan out today to get halfway decent seats to a huge star. 30 in 1984 was roughly 80-100 today, still cheaper than many artists' nosebleeds

  • @areguapiri
    @areguapiri Před 9 měsíci +56

    People today will never see anything like this again. The greatest concert performances ever. Thank you, Jacksons!

    • @Flfreedom
      @Flfreedom Před 9 měsíci

      Well I mean Taylor Swift fills stadiums too on multiple nights….

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@july3410...A "65 year old black man" comparing Taylor Swift to Michael Jackson. Are you dumb enough to expect anyone to believe that?.....lol

    • @johnnyfonk999
      @johnnyfonk999 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Beyoncé Taylor Swift you know

    • @johnnyfonk999
      @johnnyfonk999 Před 9 měsíci

      @@James-gr4io you are a goddamn lie. You can’t see or hear anything on the ground that’s 11 miles away

    • @adriennegaston8219
      @adriennegaston8219 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@july3410 ever heard of the phrase "Michael Jackson famous"? There's a reason why every so-called pop sensation today is compared to HIM not her! At best, she's mediocre 😴

  • @pagandeva2000
    @pagandeva2000 Před 10 měsíci +59

    Jackie is a liar. His wife busted him with Paula Abdul and ran his ass over. THATS why he missed some of the VictoryTour

    • @The1trueking1966
      @The1trueking1966 Před 9 měsíci

      Glad the spearchucking bastard got hurt,bitch deserved it

    • @The1trueking1966
      @The1trueking1966 Před 9 měsíci

      Why didn't she kill his black ass?

    • @musiclove5935
      @musiclove5935 Před 9 měsíci +28

      I wouldn’t expect him to admit that publicly.

    • @SupremeNerd
      @SupremeNerd Před 9 měsíci +16

      Yeah I wouldn't tell that either.... To anybody lol

    • @ana.aliciaaaaa
      @ana.aliciaaaaa Před 9 měsíci +8

      😂😂

  • @alanmckenzie9599
    @alanmckenzie9599 Před 5 měsíci +6

    You can see me @ 2:25 - 2:28.... Crazy... I was 10-yrs old...

  • @ltfringr
    @ltfringr Před 9 měsíci +26

    Crazy that this was MJ's biggest controversy at one point. Rest in peace

  • @GnarlsBarkley123
    @GnarlsBarkley123 Před 10 měsíci +58

    I was lucky to see a screening of MJ’s 40th Thriller Documentary (I wish the estate would RELEASE IT) and you see the Jacksons perform in 4K and it’s amazing!

    • @mdecimal1753
      @mdecimal1753 Před 10 měsíci +4

      What??? How’d you pull that off???

    • @anneliesejackson507
      @anneliesejackson507 Před 10 měsíci

      Did you film the footage

    • @GnarlsBarkley123
      @GnarlsBarkley123 Před 9 měsíci

      @@mdecimal1753 last year, there was a very last minute invite for the Thriller 40th Doc from the official MJ site. I live in Los Angeles and got lucky. The whole documentary wasn’t shown but most of it was, in 4K! You see a young MJ in the studio singing his face off and lots of other stuff. Can’t wait for the world to see it.

    • @freebandz4332
      @freebandz4332 Před 9 měsíci +1

      🧢

    • @key214
      @key214 Před 9 měsíci +6

      The estate are really annoying me with this thriller 40 documentary!! Just release it already ffs

  • @musiclove5935
    @musiclove5935 Před 9 měsíci +14

    All the chaos involved is probably why MJ, wasn’t to happy to do tours with brothers more often. Too many people behind the scenes with their own agendas.

  • @azucarmorena5000
    @azucarmorena5000 Před 9 měsíci +10

    My dad recorded this one vhs. My parents grew up on Jackson 5 music and made sure we were fans too.

  • @4thdimension760
    @4thdimension760 Před 10 měsíci +15

    AYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I’m from NC and went to the show at RFK stadium!! I was in third grade. Mom, her friend, her daughter, my sister. We were up in the nosebleeds lol! When I got back to school with my Thriller shirt and glove necklace, my classmates had jaws dropped.

  • @Yanadew
    @Yanadew Před 10 měsíci +35

    It’s so wonderful to see parts from this concert, I remember the excitement! They were awesome and to see vintage Michael, to hear his voice, see him move across the stage , just beautiful! 😢❤❤❤❤

  • @LeonLacey
    @LeonLacey Před 9 měsíci +10

    You see which media HATED MJ, this is disgusting how they ALWAYS found ways to try to make his life miserable… he was the HARDEST training music performer of the millennium and these folks scrutinized him even though he gave millions back

  • @obstud9
    @obstud9 Před 10 měsíci +21

    I remember recording this on my VCR and anything else Jackson. The concert was at Giant stadium and was out of sight. Miss the good old days 😪 happy to see the new ones 😅

  • @irondragon8207
    @irondragon8207 Před rokem +53

    Jackie’s on crutches 🩼 because his wife caught him cheating with Paula Abdul and ran him over smh

    • @DavidNeumeier-wp2oc
      @DavidNeumeier-wp2oc Před rokem +16

      I guess Jackie Inherited the cheater trait from
      His father Joseph Walter Jackson
      Joe cheated on his wife Katherine Jackson all the time.

    • @DJGary0910
      @DJGary0910 Před 11 měsíci +11

      He tried get his story together 😅😅😅

    • @manulem5020
      @manulem5020 Před 10 měsíci +5

      WTF

    • @5star64
      @5star64 Před 10 měsíci +1

      That’s hear say. Unproven gossip. You were not there when he was injured.

    • @kimariokiji
      @kimariokiji Před 10 měsíci +4

      Yep. And Enid designed the guys’ costumes for this tour.

  • @ufjazzman
    @ufjazzman Před 9 měsíci +6

    I missed out on the Victory tour, but managed to see the Bad tour about 4 years later.

  • @supachaloopa3611
    @supachaloopa3611 Před 9 měsíci +5

    The VICTORY album was actually pieced together by many seperate recordings, by different brothers who couldn't even put their squabbling aside to get in the studio at the same time. It was a disaster from the beginning. The VICTORY TOUR was only made because Michael didn't want to support his brothers financially for the rest of their lives. After that mess, Michael distanced himself from any meetings or plans to do another album with his siblings. Imagine being the Golden Goose in that family.

  • @4thecollectors
    @4thecollectors Před 9 měsíci +7

    They did this without social media

  • @NthaH2od
    @NthaH2od Před 9 měsíci +8

    I remember this, like it was yesterday. I was 16 years old and went the 2nd night. The 2nd night must be my lucky night, because in 1988 on his 2nd tour. I was lucky enough to get a free ticket from someone in his entourage. Rest in Peace MJJ.

  • @debragarner4884
    @debragarner4884 Před 10 měsíci +23

    All those people, only wanted to see Michael. Me too!

    • @cedric7122
      @cedric7122 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Nope.

    • @gin40
      @gin40 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Me too

    • @brianpratts
      @brianpratts Před 10 měsíci +4

      Yeah cause Michael was the star

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@cedric7122 Yeah, a lot of girls preferred the lower key superstar like Jermaine.

    • @bigt5699
      @bigt5699 Před 9 měsíci

      I was there JACKSONS

  • @1973poty
    @1973poty Před 10 měsíci +27

    We were kids and we actually believed the glitter was really jumping off his socks.

  • @troyelam8978
    @troyelam8978 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That music critic sums up what I have been saying for years, when he talks about the age variation of the crowd. I have never known another artist where they are your one of your grandma‘s favorite artists, your mother‘s favorite artist, your favorite artist, and one of your child’s favorite artists! Just incredible.

  • @robfromvan
    @robfromvan Před 9 měsíci +7

    I begged my mom to go to this when I was a kid but we couldn’t afford it!! I’m glad I had the cassette tape!!! 😳🙏😁

  • @jihadx5307
    @jihadx5307 Před 9 měsíci +11

    My great-grandfather always thought this was a conspiracy to sabotage the tour. “Racists in America are mad that Michael sold so many copies of Thriller & are probably saying ‘who does this n--er think he is charging this much to see him sing & dance?’”

    • @EFunkRock
      @EFunkRock Před 11 dny +2

      Your great-grandfather called it right. He was ahead of his time. Shoutout to him.

    • @jihadx5307
      @jihadx5307 Před 11 dny +1

      @@EFunkRock thanks & God rest his soul. Big salute to you as well…🫡

  • @orlandocharlie1795
    @orlandocharlie1795 Před 10 měsíci +15

    My dad and I went to the victory tour in Atlanta. My dad paid more than $30 for the tickets. I must have been only 9 years old.

  • @terranceharris4686
    @terranceharris4686 Před 9 měsíci +9

    The problem back then was you had to pay $120 up front for four tickets and you had no control over where you sat or if you were going even get seats at all. You went into some kinda lottery. That was some Don King shit. But after the first two stops, MJ put an end to it.

  • @wilmmerwest3876
    @wilmmerwest3876 Před 10 měsíci +17

    We need this full show from KC😭😭😭

  • @weluvfood2865
    @weluvfood2865 Před 9 měsíci +15

    I went to the Victory Tour, best tour of my entire life. I wish I could’ve went to the Bad Tour because its my personal favorite to watch on youtube

    • @EFunkRock
      @EFunkRock Před 11 dny

      The Bad Tour was amazing!!

  • @chillywillie6283
    @chillywillie6283 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I was overseas serving in the USAF the whole year of 1984, so l missed any opportunities to see this tour. Just five years earlier in May 1979, l was in the back of a Florida theater for a Jacksons concert when they arrived and where there was no security and no crowds. There was just the group, the limo driver and me.

    • @Job.Well.Done_01
      @Job.Well.Done_01 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Lol this is awesome I could see it as I read your post. How was the show? Did you get any good Polaroid pictures ?

  • @ronaldshute1924
    @ronaldshute1924 Před 10 měsíci +12

    It's funny how history paints a time period with a cost analysis. In 84 it was a lot to pay $30.00 for a ticket. But know one was as big an personality or group then M.J. or his brothers at the time. The value or bang for the buck is pennies compared to today's prices for a concert. And the talent level of today's acts couldn't hold a candle to The Jackson's let alone The king of Pop on his own.

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Its crazy that $30 for a ticket was controversial back then, nowadays that's cheap😂😂😂 smh

  • @debragarner4884
    @debragarner4884 Před 10 měsíci +20

    Jackie,you know your wife at the time,was a big contributed to your knee issues! Ted should've interviewed Paula Abdul about the knee issues. Oh well,still love ya!

  • @CCTH2221-lp2zj
    @CCTH2221-lp2zj Před 9 měsíci +8

    I remember sleeping overnight at Scotties record shop when the tickets went on sale. I sealed those tickets in three envelopes with tape in my dresser. LOL

    • @carltonwalton9819
      @carltonwalton9819 Před 9 měsíci +2

      You are part of history! Thank you for sharing!!!❤

  • @MrBoswel1
    @MrBoswel1 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Michael Jackson didn’t wanna tour with his bros

  • @Awinst01
    @Awinst01 Před 9 měsíci +2

    When I was a teenager I was part of a large church youth group that went on a two week choir tour that would end up in Washington, DC where we would sing at the capital building. We were out of Jackson, MS and had chartered two buses from a company called “Jackson Tour and Travel”. Emblazoned across the sides of each bus were those words - “Jackson Tour and Travel” along with a logo that used a drawing of the world. This just happened to be the same time when the Jacksons were on their victory tour. Every time we’d stop for gas or to eat fast food in a town along the way, word would get out that the Jacksons were in their town and had stopped for lunch. The phones would be ringing off the hooks in the fast food joints asking if The Jacksons were in the restaurants. The parking lots would fill with people wanting to see the buses hoping to get a glimpse of someone famous. And then, when reality set in you’d see a wave of disappointment among the locals as they got back in their cars a got back to their everyday lives, having seen nothing but a bunch of teenagers from Jackson, Mississippi.

  • @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746
    @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I didn’t have any problems getting my tickets or seeing the concert so I’m happy it was my favorite concert by far

  • @missbee1451
    @missbee1451 Před 9 měsíci +11

    😂 Ole Jackie lying at 18:24 about his " knee surgery/tumor, fenur bone accident". Having trouble even keeping his story straight😂 # ALLEGEDLY #PAULA 🚗☕️

    • @brandyeduncan7285
      @brandyeduncan7285 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Just stuttering through 😂😂😂😂

    • @cruzpaez8047
      @cruzpaez8047 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Stuttering b/c he was LYING. Jackie was a dogg in the "love" dept. Won't say what really went down.. but SHE was not having any of Jackie's B.S. & probsbly his wife wasn't either.😮😮😮 Just one of the pitholes #MichaelJackson 👑 always tried to avoid. Family Drama. #RIH King.
      ✌🏾💜

  • @larryrogers3391
    @larryrogers3391 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I remember watching this on TV like it was yesterday. Unfortunately Jackie wasn't being truthful about his injury. And I don't blame him. That concert was good, but the Triumph Tour was very good and still my all time favorite

  • @phill.2924
    @phill.2924 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The concert critic said that the high ticket price autimatically excluded a lot of people from seeing the show. Yes, thirty dollars is "cheap" compared to today. But, in 1984, wages were lower. I also think the average person had a different idea of how high he/she would pay for entertainment. He didn't have iphones that he would spend hundreds on without blinking an eye. There weren't Swift or Springsteen shows where he would somehow pull money away from living expenses to buy $700 tickets. 1984 was a different economy, but people really thought before they bought. Looking at money spent on entertainment today, it's ironic that the 80's have been labeled a decade of greed and excess.

  • @soulcontrolwo6088
    @soulcontrolwo6088 Před 9 měsíci +8

    If 84 Mike was touring now those tickets would be 1k or more

  • @fozzir
    @fozzir Před 9 měsíci +3

    I went to that concert at Mile High Stadium. We were in nose bleed but it was still awesome! I didn't think the ticket prices were high for what the entertainment value was.

  • @kellyvandijk3269
    @kellyvandijk3269 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I was at the Bad-tour in 1988. I’ll never forget.

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Před 9 měsíci

      That's cool and all, but i think MJ just wasn't the same after Thriller, personally and musically.
      Thriller was his peak, sadly.

    • @lamaudelewis9866
      @lamaudelewis9866 Před 9 měsíci

      @@isuriadireja91nah Bad was MJ creative peak! For sure even his dancing was better than thriller era

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Před 9 měsíci

      @@lamaudelewis9866 🤣🤣
      😑😑 NO.
      especially the DANCING u said...?? U nuts..???
      starting with Bad, his singing was lesser than the ones he did in Off the Wall and Thriller and started to have more of the shouting and grunting...and his dancing was mostly repeating his old stuff and that dreaded military-tinged cartoony street gang macho stuff that's NO WAY NEAR the stuff he did in Beat It.
      but, if THAT's what u like about Michael then...by all means.
      but to say Bad was his PEAK...lol
      don't be ridiculous.
      even the album sales went dipping way low compared to Thriller. it was downhill from Bad on.

    • @marymoore5776
      @marymoore5776 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@isuriadireja91MJ had alot of great music afterThriller, my opinion.

    • @aaronolson5434
      @aaronolson5434 Před 9 měsíci

      I will he didnt come to Tacoma in 1988

  • @levelimeade9613
    @levelimeade9613 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Shout out to my hometown Kansas City Missouri 💯🤙🏽..... That was dope they came to the town to do they first show...

    • @KelleyNicholson
      @KelleyNicholson Před 9 měsíci

      When Michael went solo he started his tour KC I wish I wasn't a baby at the time 😢

  • @MrWouda
    @MrWouda Před 10 měsíci +27

    You can clearly see America has a problem in these piece SMH!!!!
    TBH All I can see is Yt America mad because all the money they knew these blk kings were about to gross with this iconic tour.
    THEY TRY TO STOP IT BUT YOU CANT STOP GREATNESS!!!!
    I LOVE THEY JACKSON!!!!
    REST IN POWER KING YOUR LEGACY LIVES ON!!!!

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly. That cliff redneck Wallace just so apparently seems like the type.

    • @ericadial8801
      @ericadial8801 Před 9 měsíci +5

      💯 Ted Kopel know could care less about low income people. If it was George Michael or Madonna he wouldn't question them😂

    • @isuriadireja91
      @isuriadireja91 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@ericadial8801 oh and those venue owners won't have NO problem accommodating those white artists..however crazy their demands would be.

    • @africkinamerican
      @africkinamerican Před 9 měsíci

      🙄 Making everything be about race Is a very simplistic way to look at life. And how unpleasant it must be to go around thinking everybody hates you. That is a good way to actually make people hate you.

  • @SupremeNerd
    @SupremeNerd Před 9 měsíci +4

    They shouldn't have never got Don King involved in this tour

  • @kirbykipling9515
    @kirbykipling9515 Před 9 měsíci +12

    With regard to touring/performing with his brothers. Anything post Thriller was a gift. This is especially true, considering he loathed touring & longed to be a solo artist. Forever a fan of The Jacksons, including Jermaine.😂😂

  • @darenross3337
    @darenross3337 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was there August 1984 Pontiac,Michigan

  • @CBrown9758
    @CBrown9758 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Jermaine's forever golden voice!❤️🫶💯🔥💫💫💫💫💫💫👑👑👑👑👑👑🥂🍾They are royal talents so they must move royally.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Heck, in the U.K., they give their music stars Knighthood. They knighted Mick Jagger and Paul McCarthy. You would never see that sort of recognition for a black music superstar in the U.S.

  • @blimy01maynard30
    @blimy01maynard30 Před 9 měsíci +4

    There wasn't an Off the Wall tour but there were Destiny and Triumph tours. I think we understate how Mike never toured without his brothers. Probably should have been straight up with telling them this was his last tour with them.
    But I don't blame him for getting away from his dad. Joe was making horrible decisions. Teaming with Don King should greed and selfishness especially since those were Joe's boys.

  • @donaldfrierson743
    @donaldfrierson743 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I saw the Victory Tour in Cleveland. When you look at tours today such as Beyonce and ticket prices, not much has changed and it has gotten worse. A ticket to a victory tour was thirty dollars in 1984-that is worth 87.00 in today's money. Still a steal at today's concert prices.

  • @FredPena-rd5cf
    @FredPena-rd5cf Před 9 měsíci +3

    I saw them at the Gator Bowl Jacksonville Fla 1984. Lionel Richie was there. He was introduced by Michael who pointed to him in one of the skyboxes. He was right above where i was sitting. Tickets were 20 bucks a piece.

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri Před 9 měsíci +3

      I was there one of those nights in Jacksonville.

  • @BDN469
    @BDN469 Před 5 měsíci +3

    When Joe Jackson and Don King are planning a tour you knew this would be a shit show:
    1. Michael Jackson hair caught fire (Pepsi Commercial)
    2. Ticket Scandal
    3. Expecting Free Stadiums
    4. Jackie Jackson knee injury (wife ran him over with car after he was caught cheating)
    5. Tour expenses way too high
    6. New England Patriots Owner (Tour Promoter) had to sell his team because he lost so much money from this tour
    7. We were robbed of having a thriller tour
    8. This tour tore apart the Jackson family (brothers never shared a stage again until 2001)

  • @grgmj1980
    @grgmj1980 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Michael was definitely magical

  • @Danny-sd5vm
    @Danny-sd5vm Před 4 měsíci +2

    The mafia was still extremely strong in the music and concert industry in the early 80's. You better believe they all got their piece of the pie.

  • @fixitchic
    @fixitchic Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wow $30 was expensive in 1984. Seems like pennies since tickets now cost hundreds or more than $1,000.

  • @cdelorenzo6773
    @cdelorenzo6773 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I saw it.... fabulous. Still have my program & Victory Tour hat😂

  • @nickpmusic
    @nickpmusic Před 9 měsíci +5

    Who just fast forward for the concert bits

    • @Yobbie72
      @Yobbie72 Před 9 měsíci +2

      not me; I was interested in the discussion. But I'm smart.

    • @_kim123
      @_kim123 Před 9 měsíci

      After a little I bit I fast forwarded too. I don’t want to hear Teds interview. He was salty and being slick in way he didn’t have too.

  • @likemussolini4848
    @likemussolini4848 Před 9 měsíci +4

    They’d 💩 themselves looking at todays ticket prices 😂😂😂

  • @deronreed2945
    @deronreed2945 Před 10 měsíci +14

    WE just gon over look all the racism??????

    • @for-house-stark
      @for-house-stark Před 10 měsíci +5

      I just cannot believe these reporters and critics!

    • @tias.6675
      @tias.6675 Před 10 měsíci

      Jesus, y'all need to find something else to obsessed over. Just say you want white people to like you and go.

  • @jeffgrayson7639
    @jeffgrayson7639 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Wow $30 a ticket, somebody tell Beyonce and Taylor Swift

    • @cressapellom4205
      @cressapellom4205 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Exactly. And they aren’t even half ass talented as Michael

    • @SaltyChip
      @SaltyChip Před 9 měsíci +2

      This is 1984. Inflation, come on now.

    • @SupremeNerd
      @SupremeNerd Před 9 měsíci

      That was 1984. 30 bucks was a lot of money back then. 250 was a whole lot of money. $5000 made you upper middle class back then

    • @areguapiri
      @areguapiri Před 9 měsíci

      And Beyonce has NO real talent.

    • @mjfangirlgal45
      @mjfangirlgal45 Před 9 měsíci

      Well different time

  • @alukuhito
    @alukuhito Před 9 měsíci +5

    This tour was possibly the most hyped thing I can remember in my life. I'm sure it was really good, but they were making this out to be the biggest event ever.

    • @jody8526937
      @jody8526937 Před 9 měsíci

      Yes.. I remember the overwhelming hype. This news piece was part of it all. This was the first tour that really put ticket prices out of the reach of paper route money for teenagers. People complained vehemently about price gouging to see a pop act. It was unheard of at the time. The tour was playing to half empty stadiums by the end. And in retrospect it’s basically forgotten and not the tour all future acts would be measured against.t

  • @williambrown4357
    @williambrown4357 Před 10 měsíci +17

    😂😮wow. I remember staying up late watching this. I paid no attention to the subject matter. I just wanted to see them perform live. 😊

  • @chevypreps6417
    @chevypreps6417 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The biggest mistake Micheal made was ruining his face with plastic surgery. He was much better looking Ala natural.

  • @charlesgreen7469
    @charlesgreen7469 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I saw the Victory Tour in Jacksonville Florida in 1984

  • @raymondclarke9321
    @raymondclarke9321 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Saw it at Franklin field in Philadelphia. Didn't come close to the triumph tour in Philly in 1981

  • @shawnhunter7541
    @shawnhunter7541 Před 10 měsíci +4

    And 30 dollars was expensive in 1984 when the average ticket was 6.50 and 7.50 the day of.

  • @aperson2943
    @aperson2943 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I wish the tour would've gotten properly released on DVD or digitally, they recorded the shows but never released them for people to buy

  • @badtourerasalt
    @badtourerasalt Před rokem +10

    Turns out there is a higher quality version of this I guess.

    • @wilmmerwest3876
      @wilmmerwest3876 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Which I have been saying but nobody listen to me😢

    • @badtourerasalt
      @badtourerasalt Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@wilmmerwest3876 but this still ain't the best version, pretty sure Victorycampaign84 has a ai upscaled colorful version with the audio in HQ

    • @Criscilla241
      @Criscilla241 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Victory Tour stop in Toronto is here on CZcams

    • @wilmmerwest3876
      @wilmmerwest3876 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Criscilla241 😂😂😂please go away

  • @eugenegreene463
    @eugenegreene463 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I remember this episode. Whole family stayed up to watch it… then there was a black before the credits finished rolling 😂

  • @damienlomax1946
    @damienlomax1946 Před rokem +16

    Victory tour was ok but but triumph was the best tour out of them all victory bad dangerous and history

    • @Wonderouz
      @Wonderouz Před 11 měsíci +1

      I really wish I knew why it wasn't the other way around

    • @anthonyrobinson973
      @anthonyrobinson973 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​​​@@WonderouzBecause TRIUMPH was by far the best album the Jackson's ever produced..Keep in mind, I'm measuring this against the other Jackson's albums, now, if We measure their other albums against the average artist, there's not much comparison.
      Edit.
      The Jackson's is a group that crosses Generations,and, when someone is in the business that long, whatever generation you fit into, you will always think that was the best. But that just goes to show how **GREAT** they were. You can't speak of the Jackson's without, of course, speaking of Mike for he was the LEAD.

    • @lennixjones
      @lennixjones Před 10 měsíci

      bad, dangerous and history have nothing to do with the JACKSONS. that's just mikes tour, so you can't really compare them. even so, his worst history tour show is better than anything, respectfully

    • @damienlomax1946
      @damienlomax1946 Před 10 měsíci

      @@lennixjones I know that more then anyone I am shock you know that also but Michael always inspired and base his solo tours on triumph tour

    • @FroMarty
      @FroMarty Před 10 měsíci

      @@lennixjonesthe lip lynchig outnumbered the amount of singing by History unfortunately

  • @tiffanylewis7633
    @tiffanylewis7633 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Michael didnt want too di the tour anyway ..his mother talked him into doing this tour ..because of his mother he decided too do it

  • @lamontbradford4630
    @lamontbradford4630 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Jackie wasn’t there because his wife ran over him when she caught him at the drive in messing around with Paula Abdul.

  • @r5t6y7u8
    @r5t6y7u8 Před 9 měsíci +2

    *Million dollar idea:*
    AFAIK, nobody has ever made a full documentary (or feature film or non-fiction book) about the 1984 Jackson Victory Tour.
    Read the WIkipedia article: It's a fascinating story of talent, greed, fame, behind-the-scenes deals, family strife and dashed hopes.
    Somebody do this. I don't have a music background or video skills.

  • @jody8526937
    @jody8526937 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I would rather see The Jackson’s than a solo Michael show. There and is something special about a family act. Michael is debatable about the greatest performer however the Jackson are undoubtedly the greatest family act of all time.

    • @JGMP2010
      @JGMP2010 Před dnem

      Bullshit. Nothing to debate. They called him the king for a reason.

  • @jenjay0167
    @jenjay0167 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’m guessing the “critic” lost his job after saying the concert wasn’t worth the price. 😂😂

  • @badtourerasalt
    @badtourerasalt Před rokem +9

    Please tell me you have more reports of the concert in this quality, there is new footage from here, that's not in the full concert vhs tape.

    • @eph_loves_80s74
      @eph_loves_80s74 Před rokem +3

      The channel is great

    • @damienlomax1946
      @damienlomax1946 Před rokem +3

      You would have to contact the studios who have the report

    • @eph_loves_80s74
      @eph_loves_80s74 Před rokem +1

      @@damienlomax1946 ABC merged with Disney, NBC and KNBC merged with NBCUniversal and Entertainment Tonight merged with CBS too

  • @seanahmed9079
    @seanahmed9079 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This was the start of Michael Jackson's love story with "controversy"!!

  • @reneishabrooks5187
    @reneishabrooks5187 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Boy is this an example of the mania and craziness from the media that they and Michael were subject too.

  • @hutch1197
    @hutch1197 Před 10 měsíci +24

    All the problems this tour had were self-inflicted by Joseph Jackson and Don King, and their greed. Michael opposed the ticket system, and was furious with his father and brothers for how the fans were treated. The tour started losing money because there so many greedy people taking a piece of the pie. The brothers wouldn't even show up to the stadiums in the same car because they were all fighting. The only people stopping the Jacksons from success were the Jacksons themselves. Michael should have toured alone. Most of the songs they performed were his anyway.

  • @mgardner70
    @mgardner70 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I saw the KC tour as a kid. It was amazing. Yes. I lived through the not so subtle racism.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Not so subtle is an understatement. They invited the former grand marshall of the KKK to speak at my school, CSUN, in 1987-88. I was there, attending the school. I remember it well. Rodney King beating in 1991. Those were horrible times for black people. Today we still have things like the black guy killed while jogging and the George Floyd situation. Being black in America...today and yesterday. And, if we say anything about it, we are still wrong, according to them. We have "Victim Mentality" according to them for even speaking on it. So, they put the guilt of their racial violence on us. The guilt should be on them, not us.

    • @africkinamerican
      @africkinamerican Před 9 měsíci

      " Horrible times for black people"? That's a huge, sweeping generalization. Many black people were living good lives , enjoying upward mobility and not really even thinking about racism.
      Absolutely we had economic inequality and recessions and chronic unemployment for some. The ghetto had lots of problems. The drugs, the violence , the gangs, et cetera. I do believe this country's policies on drugs have been evil and hypocritical. But most of us, even then, did not live in the ghettos , were not involved in the drug economy or other illegal activity, and our lives were not this hellish existence -- just normal lives with normal problems , like our neighbors of all races.
      The Rodney King beating was horrible, but was big news because it was not an everyday thing.
      Today, you could almost count all the truly innocent (unarmed/not resisting) black people who are killed by police on two hands. While black on black killings is like the V ietnam War... no comparison. Focusing forever on racism blinds us to the problems we have to fix ourselves.

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Před 9 měsíci

      @africkinamerican You've been drinking too much of their Kool-Aid. If this country is so fair, why have we only had one black president and one black VP in the whole 400 plus year existence of this country? I also wouldn't say many, but a few. We have a few athletes, actors and musicians, but how about scholarly? We have proven that we are a talented people. See, I know why we had to create HBCU's. Without them, Kamala Harris wouldn't have her degree and likely wouldn't be VP. Yes, we deserve equal footing, and we've never received it. How do you make people work for free for over 250 years and never, ever compensate them? I won't even go into all the other atrocities inflicted on black people, even until today. I won't pretend like everything is rosy like some people. To do so, is a slap in the face of our struggle. See, I remember black Wallstreet and what we are capable of as a people, and I see the ghettos we have been thrown into and mocked for, while they burned down our models of success. Sure, there may be a few who escape injustice, but it isn't the norm. To pretend otherwise is a slap in the face to all the George Floyd's, Martin Luther King's, and Emmet Till's, who gave their lives for racial injustice. Don't be an Uncle Tom. Know thy history. Study it. "Sound Of The Police" is a good place to start. Our oppression is legendary, but no, it won't stop our greatness, just because we are dark skinned. No, that is what fueled our greatness, even while it was fueling the hate against us. We shall overcome.

  • @sandramunoz425
    @sandramunoz425 Před 3 měsíci +2

    AWESOME VIDEO 📹 MR JACKIE JACKSON AND HANDSOME MAN 👨 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @TheFame5000
    @TheFame5000 Před 9 měsíci +2

    They make it seem as if the Taylor Swift ticket debacle is unprecedented, but this video is proof that it’s been happening for a long time.

  • @oscarfairley6600
    @oscarfairley6600 Před 9 měsíci +2

    It was a mess , remember it well. Don't know how my family manage to get tickets, but we did.

    • @christaylor7916
      @christaylor7916 Před 9 měsíci

      How was it a mess? I'm not disagreeing or anything. I'm just interested in your opinion

    • @oscarfairley6600
      @oscarfairley6600 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @christaylor7916 at first it was a lottery system, set up by Don King. Where you had to buy four tickets at $140. No choice of seating, or even a guarantee that you will get tickets. Your money would be refunded to you. That was hated by almost everyone. The media went nuts. Don King was fired , and the Jacksons drop that plan. It was so dislike Michael took a beating in the press. And this was months before the start of the tour. Michael had to have a press conference in which he announced that he going to donate his tour money to charity, all of it. Across the country different cities was trying make money off the tour in shady ways. This was the concert tour that changed how tours on done since.

  • @tur74d56
    @tur74d56 Před 10 měsíci +9

    To bad it never came to the UK , Even Michael said this

    • @chasugc3740
      @chasugc3740 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yeah, but Michael went all over the world with his Bad tour, and his History tour.

  • @gregman05
    @gregman05 Před 9 měsíci +1

    the more things change with ticket sales, the more they unfortunately stay the same

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc Před 9 měsíci +1

    When people watched the show with their eyes instead of through the screen of their phones.

  • @Wondertroy1TV
    @Wondertroy1TV Před 10 měsíci +8

    When do you ever ask a promoter for any tour promoter how much do you need to make to earn a profit!!! This was a smear campaign and the tour was a success!!!

  • @bigsisandlittlesiscarter6746

    The concert was amazing me and some of our classmates slept outside so we can get our tickets outside the stadium

  • @jamesway
    @jamesway Před 7 měsíci +1

    This critic at the end is full of it. Standard concert indeed. You can look back and see the media sharpening the knives for his coming fall.

  • @davidjefferson69
    @davidjefferson69 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have and still feel bad for michael even today I never know all this was going on back then michael at the height of his music career was very much an anomaly this much popularity was not supposed to happy for a single performer he was just one person and he did not control the cost of tickets plus millions of ppl just wanted to see him then there was the rumors about his brothers and there alleged jealousy and money issues I thought he handled all this like a pro I'm a mj fine for life and I never believed the child cases that were charged against him this just shows you how humanity will still turn against you as soon as its convenient so sad

  • @__ghostwolf__
    @__ghostwolf__ Před 9 měsíci +3

    MJ should have just done a thriller tour

  • @OrdinaryG33K-SF
    @OrdinaryG33K-SF Před 9 měsíci +1

    4 tickets for $120? How prices for live concerts have changed (even adjusting for inflation)...

  • @biged5149
    @biged5149 Před 9 měsíci

    I remember those ticket prices $30 was a lot of money back then wow

  • @kathythompson8642
    @kathythompson8642 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I seen the Jackson's in Philadelphia. The Spectrum. With all the controversy Mike donated all his earnings from victory to charity

  • @NYVoice
    @NYVoice Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ticket sale controversy. Oh gee, where did we hear this recently?