I think this is one of those situations where lots of people developed soccer and soccer-like games, but the British regulated it and created the rules we know today. I don't know what the oldest sport is, but I think the oldest continually-acting sporting association is the PGA (or at least it's predecessors).
OG soccer was so wild, it had to be banned for awhile. It could involve nearly an entire village and there was no real rules on player on player violence.
I would guess that racing is the oldest sport. Like it's in ancient literature like the bible
Oldest sport definitely hunting and/or combat-related. It's human nature (or just male nature) to want to compete at whatever it is that you do to prove that you're the best. Today, we have competitions like baking shows because people are bakers, but thousands of years ago, most men were just hunters, so they would naturally compete in that domain because that's what they did. Who wants to settle for just being a hunter when you can prove that you're THE hunter, instead?
Also, it's just very mammalian for the males to fight for mating rights. All mammals do it, from oxen to field mice to bats, and humans are no exception. Sport evolved as just one more form of dick-measuring so that the men could sort out who was the best and get the women.
In japanese we also use the word "soushokukei" (herbivorous) as a way to describe someone who doesn't care about fleshy pleasures, and yeah a lot of people are like that in Japan nowadays. But I never thought of it as a way to also describe people who don't try behaving like hunters, which should have become the more logical comparison lol
We have some quite intelligent AND zen individuals. I am proud.
wym, its more "not trying to be hunters" because then you would be desribed more as "chyarai".
@@FM-dm8xj I didn't phrase it correctly, by "behaving like hunters" I meant people that are trying to dominate their surrounding like some animal on top of the food chain. In short, the "alphas" that were described in the clip.
@@FM-dm8xj well, "charai" would simply be the opposite of that urban definition of "soushokukei", essentially a womanizer but not exactly with that alpha-ish personality 😅
Connor deepening his voice to do a Joe Rogan impression, as if his natural voice isnt already way deeper than Rogan's.
7:00 A ‘betavore’ sounds like a type of person That Vegan Teacher would approve of 😂
@@benpark2225 hmm, it’s hard to tell what he said tbh, cause it sounded close to the ‘vores’ sound
Become the Omega male, the last male anyone would want to be with
Aren't those like femboys or am I completely misremembering it? I don't remember anything about the whole arrangement beyond "alpha = dudebro, beta = loser, sigma = chad" or something like that.
@@ooffordays566 I'm guessing you have no idea how massive the asian boyband fandoms are...
@@ctographerm3285 How does that explain anything again, I am genuinely confused.
Fun Fact:
"Herbivore Men" is a literal term used in Japan.
The mayans used to kick around a softball sized solid rubber ball and use their bodies (except hands) to kick it into a small stone ring that was attached to the wall a good 20 feet high. Death was common during these games. That ball packed some force.
i just realized the thumbnail on this episode was changed from tate to gigachad
yeah it wouldnt surprise me that having him on the thumbnail could get the entire episode demonetized
There were so many comments about people thinkng that Tate was on the podcast 🤣 the original thumbnail was definitely good for the algorithm
@@LukSter18998 I dont see why not, he was in EU nations not long ago on vacation, there makes no sense why he shouldnt be able to travel to Japan as from what I know he hasnt even ever been in Japan.
Publicly admitting who you truly are is the real "alpha male" move. Being yourself always requires more balls than trying to fit in a specific stereotype.
Tell that to the stereotypical guys lol
Thing that I always hate about just societies is there's normally a few things that are seen as normal. Like sport no matter where you are. Footy/Rugby, Soccer/Football, skiing, tennis or cricket... But then you like any other activity that doesn't fit the social norm and it's seen as nerdy, geeky or weird.
Anime, video games, even being into the MCU or DC movies... If it isn't casually interested then yup you are a nerd..
Not to mention video game sports.
And yet fantasy football is supposedly not geeky.
You can go to a stupid footy match, scream like crazy for your favourite team, while dressed up as your team or something for that. But go to a convention and you are seen as weird. I have never had understood that with people.
Just enjoy what you enjoy, you are a fan of whatever you are interested in either way. One has just been around longer and somehow seen as the main acceptable thing to like. But if you like playing board games or video games or whatever... Just got do you. Lol
@@Kewlausgirl I don't think most people think nerds is someone who likes anime. It's mostly someone who is only living in anime word, and doesn't have anything outside of it basically. And for footy match or sports in general it's subconscious, we can lie to ourself as much as we want but most girls will like someone tall, muscular and who take care of themselves and sports are more associated with it than animes etc
True -- but only some societies are evolved enough to understand. And if you happen to live in a very traditional society, you definitely won't be respected if you don't fit into the traditional image of manhood.
@@KewlausgirlNah. Most guys play video games lol & most like Superhero stuff. The problem is some people make it their identify - like anime. And ofc you'll be seen as nerd then - because you are.
@@gaia8840That's it 100%. People don't even hate on anime too much, it's just the weebs who's personality is " i like anime xD". Who make it bad for everyone else.
No one calls it "soccer" aside from Americans, so "football" would be the international term.
In the words of Bandit Keith... Every country is America.
Therefore, Soccer
Japan calls it soccer. Canada calls it soccer. The Brits invented the term even though they don't use it anymore.
It`s like youtubers and streamers from countries that don`t have dollar using dollar for an international audience, I hate how USA centered the world has become.
I wonder why us Aussies call it soccer. Maybe coz we already coined Rugby and AFL as Football/Footy. So it was kinda like... Yeah, nah too confusing. Oh look America and Canada calls it Soccer. Screw it, it's soccer now. Lol
I like the Herbivore Trash Taste podcast because I feel like I can fit in/relate, unlike Joe Rogans where I’d be completely out of place. I’m a proud beta
a beta has ambition and is willing to fight the alpha to get to theses ambitions.
i think common peoples are not even "beta" types personnality.
You just described an alpha dude 😂 betas are betas because they have no will to fight and no major goals to achieve . As this guy mentioned , he wants to feel comfortable as stay as he is on the herbivore side , meaning he’s not strong enough to go out of his comfort zone and that’s what makes him a beta.
@@shukrantpatil an "alpha" has no-one to challenge as they're already at the top of the flock/pack/group,
"betas" on the other-hand are constantly having power-struggle to take over the "alpha" position
what the hell are you talking about?
There are historically dozens for different games where you kick stuff with your feet. Britian made an association for them and created a regulated standard Football. There was also a boarding school version of association football where you could pick the ball up with your hands called Rugby Football. Association football got nicknamed by the brits as assocer and later soccer, while rugby football got nicknamed ruggers or just rugby. Rugby eventually just did its own thing and all that was really left was Association Football. Althought "football" was used to describe all foot and ball related sports (similar to hand ball for example), Britain decided that their version was the only real version of football and named it football. Everyone else decided to continue calling it soccer. As Europeans started playing Football with the Brits they started using the british word for it. Thats why spanish speakers say Futbol instead of directly translating it as piepelota.
American football is also called football because the football they played with was originally a foot long. The British name for football makes less sense given the historical context of it. It would be like calling Volleyball "Handball" or Table Tennis "Paddle or RacketBall"
this segment was hilarious lmao
4:34🤨what you mean that Joey
Garnt instinctively knows that you have to understand the oppositions view before you can roast the shit out of them
Connor already looks like a british version of the Giga-chad. So it's gonna be hard to convince me otherwise.
Sorry, I've watched too much of John Oliver to mentally process "British gigachad" as anything other than an oxymoronical joke. British society is for advanced mathematics and tea, not for chadliness.
Y'all, let's eat a bloody fantastic salad and embrace Herbivorism
Loving Connor's Alex Jones/Joey Diaz impression.
connor is laughing like emirichu
Nice video dude
1:22 -
just a guy sitting at top
the word you're looking for is convergent evolution
There's nothing wrong with being a bottom, it's often comforting.
the romans back then shit on Julius Ceasar not because he had relations with a fellow man but because he was the bottom.
I know a lot of subs will tell you it kinda sucks ass trying to find a good dom. For most, it hardly feels worth the risk of meeting up with some interested party, having to interact socially, and ending up with a shitty dom, so there's that.
I for one love fighting I’m just not very good at it
I would 100% join the Herbivore Course
I don't think your beta's, and you definitely are not Alpha just regular dudes, I personally can't stand Either of those mindsets they are both equally annoying
Alphas and Betas are not real. Even the guy who created those terms by watching captive wolves later stated that he was wrong and neither wolves nor humans have that kind of a hierarchy. It's a just a lie used by people like Andrew Tate to prey on insecure young men's wallets by giving them "guidance on how to become an Alpha male." in exchange for hundreds of dollars.
We listen to it because its down to earth and relatable plus funny XD
5:06 What you’re here for
4:51 the try guys are the most beta podcast
I look at trash taste as a competition for the boys to find out who the real alpha is of the group.
I have a strong feeling alpha male podcasts are going to start unironically using betavore
I would like to believe this was obvious to anyone who knows them for any amount of time especially if you watch this podcast on the regular
Oldest sport I think would be wrestling, many animals even do a version of play fighting
Connor sounds like seth rogen at 6:11
I think the whole "alpha-beta" dichotomy is dumb. I had my zoomer cousin ask me which I was, I just told him "I don't want to be either. I just want to live my life and do my own shit." He said "you sound like a sigma male then." I don't know what that means, I was just like "fair enough." lol
I like watching trash taste because I don't have any bros to just hang out with.
I like this podcast
5:07 hahahaha
I am a betavore on that betavore grindset
I want one full episode of TT where they just lean into the sigma male thing and just straight faced treat it like a Joe Rogan MMA podcast or something where only manly topics are allowed and they just try to out alpha each other the whole time.
I feel talking about the terms alpha and beta thesedays is like a no win situation-when you disparage alphas your revealing your insecurites about yourself and when your an alpha your doing the same thing. My conclusion is, like many things, is to literally stop talking about it.
@@FM-dm8xj "when you're an alpha", "when you disparage alphas you reveal your insecurities"
To me this reads as still believing that alphas exist. But eh, who cares
@@kapser2210 What i mean is its all pointless in the end, its all an everlooping paradox. but yeah, doesnt matter.
At work I gotta agree with unagreeable opinions all the time….
Of course. It's a life skill. Makes me wonder how all the hyped-up, 20-year-old culture warriors on Twitter are going to cope when they finally graduate, enter the real world, and find out that nobody is going to go along with all the culture war stuff they're been indoctrinated to believe by the internet (on either side of any given divide). They think their (mostly contrived) issues are the most important shit in the world...and most people in the world don't care at all, and aren't going to care. What's a young idealogue to do?!
Friendly reminder that the Brits invented the name "soccer". It's short for "association football" (somehow).
We know
I watch trash and jre clips because I’m a anime fan who’ll probably get in to manga and I watch jre because I’m a mma fan
Trash taste confirmed to have massive bottom energy
The funny thing is that "herbivore men" was an actual thing in Japan, like, a decade ago:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
"Trash Taste are NOT Alpha Males"
Yeah tell us something we don't know.
Jk, jk
Really? Would have never guessed it
hello fellow herbivores 👋👋
There were two types of football. Rugby football and association football. Association football got shortened to 'soccer and rugby football got shortened to football. America kept those names while the UK didn't.
Football ⚽️ was made before rugby. it was called football before your sport was even created.
@@mrbeard798 AFL beats Football by 4 years though, when it comes to sports who refer themselves as football
ITS.. SOCCER
Nope it's football...Because you play with a ball using your foot... At the difference somehow american football is named football when you mostly use your hands ^^
The English did invent soccer, including the name "soccer"
Yeah the irony of Garnt and Connor being disgusted by the word soccer when it was British in origin. If anything the various differences American have from the rest of the world is mostly because we got it from England, not sure about the date structure though, and we were disconnected from Europe since we declared independence unlike Canada that was a colony for much longer
@@gaia8840 They codified the modern ruleset under the term "Association Football", which got colloquially shortened to "Soccer"
The problem with Joe Rogan as a host is that he and his audience forgot that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He's great at getting his guests to talk but that only works when his guests aren't nutjobs or extremists and he can't differentiate them.
"can't differentiate them" he can and does, he's stated he knows many of his guests are wacko but thinks a show were he only has people on he agrees with would be boring. Joe is an entertainer and does that job well, he isn't exactly obligated to provide structured acedemia rebutle to those he brings on
@@geldundkokaine2569 Ok fair even he can tell some of his guests are whackos but just being there to keep the guest talking isn't what a good interview is and he's even made similar arguments in the past. When talking about blogs and video essays he said "people... you're writing things and you're not being checked as you're going along so it's just you broadcasting an idea. It's not a conversation and because of that you can give off the illusion of expertise."
By his own words you cannot defend him on the basis of "its just a conversation not an interview, he doesn't have to actually critique his guest's points at all." This leaves 3 possibilities: he agrees with the nutjobs he brings on, is not informed enough to have a proper conversation, or he is a hypocrite.
@@thermusaquaticusPCR Yeah he is giving those guys a platform and an audience. It's ok to bring people with different ideas, as long as it's not insane and dangerous people like Alex Jones.
can you give me at leat 3 examples of him not knowing what hes talking about? because thats why he asks questions to his guests, and most of the time if its about mma, drugs, some political issues he does. and if ur atacking him, u should be attacking the boys and yourself, because are u claiming people cant say anything wrong in their lives and are u the adjudicator of these things?
@@rodryguezzz why is it up to u to draw the line? he can bring anyone he wants, if u dont like it dont watch. why is it okay for rappers who murd3r people to be given platforms but some people not?
We should be aspiring to be strong like the characters we look up to
Woof!
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I dont agree with what he says, as if joe has any strong opinions, conner is a herbavor for sure
Connor is so triggering with his ignorance in the start of this clip, omg
not really, he clearly accepted creating the sport as it is, he just saying there was probably similar sports somewhere else at the time, just that the uk officialised it as a sport. The mayas had a sport similar to football for example
Wrestling,
That primal feeling you get from watching a Fight, is your masculinity gents. Your testosterone surging. Your blood pumping, getting you ready to either run. Or Fight back. Even die trying. That is what the anime characters we love would feel if they were real people.
I'd say ranking hentai is very alpha
I dont like how joey scoffed at the possibility of agreeing with rogans opinions. CZcamsrs these days are so scared of being cancelled they have to immediately shut down any kind of link or relationship to taboo subjects or people. Conor put it quite well. They shouldnt have to preface every single comment with a warning or clarification that they dont support or agree with said person or opinion. Internet is a sad place. Open discourse is paramount.
LOL
Herbivore gang rise up
8:35 "I don't think there's anything wrong with listening to a viewpoint that you don't agree with."
Careful man, that kinda talk is gonna get you canceled on Twitter. :P
(Of course, at the rate it's going, Twitter might not exist for much longer, so possibly not a real problem.)
HAHAHA, IM GONNA START CALLING INFERIOR PEOPLE "HERBAVORE" HAHA
The only one close to an Alpha in this video is the guy on the left. The other two dudes scream BETA lol
Clearly you guys are not alpha
0:18 "football or soccer"
Out of all the countries that speak the English language, the ONLY notable ones that call it "football" are the UK and Ireland (combined population: approximately 75 million). America, Canada, and Australia all call it "soccer" (combined population: approximately 390 million).
From this, we can see that the VAST MAJORITY of native English speakers prefer the term soccer over football. Virtually nobody calls it football except for those who natively speak another language (and that's only because they learned that's what it was called when they were learning English in school. If their schoolmasters told them the sport were called "gefubla", they'd all happily be running around cheering for the Gefubla World Cup. It's not really their language, so the only knowledge they have is what they learned in school.)
Why do they not agree w anything joe rogan says
“It is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war” you laugh and think it’s funny to be weak?
Let it be known that I agree with most of the things Joe Rogan says, which means most of the things Joe says are correct.
I don't know too many chads invested in Anime. Hell there's barely any chads in Anime anymore, the women are the strongest character in almost every series nowadays
In shounen anime, the male main character is the strongest or on their way to becoming the strongest in the majority of cases. The mentor and main villain are usually men. I don't believe this "women are stronger in anime" thing at all tbh. Unless you zero in on romcoms.
I swear the biggest Chad is Gilgamesh. I literally saw him and still think he is just built different. Even years later he is just the giga Chad of anime.
@@TheNobleFive Spy x Family(Yor is not the strongest but the author himself confirmed that she is stronger than Twilight in raw power) and Chainsawman(Makima),both shounen.
@@neerajcherukuri4052 yeah but for the longest time the majority of shounen writers have been shit at writing strong female characters. That's not to say there aren't exceptions, but once again for a long time they've been exceptions rather than the rule.
They invented the globalized concept of football, but Connor has a point, it's very likely that this shit happened way, kicking a ball into a goal and protecting another goal is probably a concept way older than Britain, it's just so natural of a thing to do
exactly.. it's like dance or music and any claims you were the first nation to ever to make music or dance would be ridiculous (unless ur from mesopotamia/africa)
@@lonebanana6753 can totally see England stealing it from one of their colonies
We know for a fact that different variations of "kicking a ball to win the game" existed way before football... I remember that China and one of the ancient Central American civilisations had their own iterations...
@@lonebanana6753 bird/primate etc etc before anything resemble a human exist already had some form dance and music so i don`t think you can claim even ur from mesopotamia or africa
@@Kitcomedy That's real talk, right there.