The Man Who Coached Michael Jordan AND Kobe Bryant To WIN! Tim Grover
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- This episode is part of our USA series, over the coming weeks you will get to see some incredible conversations with guests the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Bringing more value, more incredible stories, and more world-beating expertise.
Tim Grover is the performance expert who helped to raise the game of Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant to the legendary status everyone knows them for. Tim’s new book, Winning, opens the lid on what it was like to work with two of the greatest basketball players of all time. Neither Michael, Kobe, or Tim were interested in being anything except No. 1, and in this episode we're going to uncover how you can achieve that mindset too.
00:00 Intro
01:27 Confronting and learning from your dark side
17:44 How did you go from a normal job to training Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant?
34:38 Attention to detail and what made you succeed
43:37 What do successful people end up missing?
48:03 Happiness or winning at all costs, what’s the goal?
51:44 What sacrifices did you make during your career?
01:02:18 Consistency and performing at the highest level
01:04:28 Getting the best out of teams
01:08:26 Keeping the right people around you
01:10:58 Showing up is not winning
01:15:55 The impact of your work on your family
01:21:44 Our last guest’s question
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Brilliant.
Because you are in the U.S.A., could you interview
Anna Lembke
Andrew Huberman
Tom Bilyeu
Are any of these names on your list?
Mate that was gold dust thank you
[ ] = My own thoughts I make as I listen to each point Tim and Steve are making
Released Monday 16th May 2022 Watched Monday 16th and Tue 17th and Wed 18th May 2022
1. TG: My dad said 4:10 never let your pride get in the way of doing what is necessary to provide for people you love. [ connect to Ego is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday]
SB: And you still feel it today
TG: Very. I would not be here if not for the things both mum and dad did. Never complained. Went to work every day.
2. TG: When does a new day start? 06:12 At midnight. Is it dark outside? Yes.
If a new day, a new beginning starts in the dark, that is where new beginnings start.
But many people are afraid. You have to visit this place.
If this place comes and visit you, it will not leave. [ very strong]
If you visit the darkness u have been running from, u will have the chance to leave a better person [ to live a better life]
If u do not take this trip, and darkness comes visit you, it is a guest that will not leave.
3. SB: What are negative of having a dark side? 7:12
TG: hardships- it hardened me. Things that were easy for me were hard for others. I’d see people complain about things, and I’d ask what are u complaining about.
4. TG: the things that visit you in your nightmares: these are the real puzzles. 8:48. People say always bring your positivity. That means you are only bringing half of you. [wow].
You have to bring the light and the dark, the good and bad.
In order to stand out, to fight, u have to become that monster.
5. TG: most individuals 12:36 make their decisions with their feelings.
But you have to make your decisions with your mind.
[wow- separating your feelings from the moment-
reminds me of what Steven said in ‘Lessons he learnt in 2020- person who put the item on the to-do list is not the same person who will do the to-do list]
6. TG: Whenever anyone has told me you are crazy, I always thanked them 14:41. It gave me ability to see things others may not.
7. TG: Local health 27:12 job. Minimum wage was $3.35.
I could not train as I had to do this 6-month probation period training.
I cleaned the exercise rooms, opened up gyms. I then sat an exam.
Funny part is when I took the exam, it was the one I wrote as a project for school.
This health club was using the exam I wrote to certify their trainers.
They said u got 100%- you now qualify as a trainer.
I said to them u should follow up and find out where u got this exam from. [wow]
8. It is the attention to the little details 35:55.
You may hear this often ‘don’t sweat the small stuff’.
Top athletes always sweat the 0.01% stuff, they sweat every detail.
Because 1 thing they let slip- someone else will use it to their edge.
Everyone says don’t worry about the things u can’t control.
They want to control everything they can control, so the uncontrollable becomes more manageable.
9. I would ask a group about taking their idea to the next level 37:00
Stand up if you are interested. A lot stand
Stand up if you are obsessed. A lot stand.
Well which one is it?
‘interested’ is a hobby. Kobe was not interested in basketball, he was obsessed, with details [ subtleties]
I have a saying ‘Interested people watched Obsessed people change the world.’
10. SB: Kobe was interested in small details no one else paid attention to. What were they? 38:35
TG: people talk about maximising time. Kobe and I spoke about maximising our focus [ well said].
When you maximise your focus, it gave us more time [ more a subjective feeling of time].
I would walk the floor and find ‘dead spot’- where the ball does not bounce as high.
Kobe was doing free throws, something’s not right, he asked maintenance guy to check, basket was 1/8th inch off
He was obsessed
SB: When we release a video, within 24 hours, we can see if the title and thumbnail are working.
TG: People 42:21 get comfortable with not managing the details [nuances]
11. People love the flame but they don’t want to touch the fire 50:18.
12. 1st thing MJ told me was u better keep up 55:25. We don’t know which direction this ride will take us on.
I am just as messed up as my clients. I do not judge them.
My daughter says to me nothing is weird to you. When something is weird, I say ‘interesting.’
I want to know what that person is doing, and why.
13. TG: MJ gave me one of the best compliments: ‘I do not pay Tim to train me. I pay him not to train anyone else’ 59:40
14. MJ quote 1:07:10 I practise so hard that the games become easier. [Wow]
15. TG: Winning does not make u heartless 1:10:20 Winning makes you use your heart less. Mind over feelings.
[Reminds me of Hard Choices Easy life. Easy choices Hard Life. ]
16. SB You cannot unsee the suffering, the cost, from your poor decisions. TG; You cannot unsee it. You cannot unlearn it. You can learn from it. 1:14:56.
17. TG; Winning will cost you everything but it will give you so much more 1:16:26.
18. If u think the cost of winning 1:19:21 wait until u get the bill for regret.
Connect to point above: [Reminds me of Hard Choices Easy life. Easy choices Hard Life.]
Jeez how about a warning before e hear about the bodies etc.. Some of us are dealing with trauma, which those who are not may think is weak but it is hell. So please put a warning in before the stuff about bodies
Tim's story about his father hit hard-"never let your pride get in the way of doing what's necessary to provide for the people that you love".
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@@TheDiaryOfACEO I love u bro
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Amazing bro
“If you think the price of winning is too high wait until you get the bill of regret.” that line alone woke me up 🎖
Starts: 1:19:17
Whether you make a sacrifice to win or to lose, both are a sacrifice.
Real talk
That got me going too! Very powerful statement.
What's the timestamp for that ?
@@paschalmbaka5662 1:19:30
59:50 - "I don't pay Tim to train me, I pay him not to train anyone else"
Michael Jordans compliment to TIM
I don’t pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave. -Charlie Sheen
“ I never lost a game. I just ran out of time” - MJ
On God, this was the one that did me in
And now he has AIDS right?
"Showing up is NOT half the battle! People want to be congratulated for doing what they're supposed to do!" This pierced my heart!
Whats your biggest success thus far ?
- Control your dark side (insecurities - does it control you or do you control it?).
- The more pain you can tolerate, the stronger you will be.
- Don’t let your pride get in the way of providing for your family.
- Make decisions with your mind, not with your feelings.
- Different scares people
- If you want success focus on every single detail, you have to be obsessed not interested. The best always look for competitive edge Separation is in the details. Success deletes other essentials, not just through adding things
- If you think the price of winning is too hard wait until you get the bill of regret that bill is generational - someone has to bill it off. You have to be proactive and make the hardest decisions.
- Showing up is not half the battle it is the start. If you think it is half the battle you are already losing. People want the medal for doing the easy things.
Thank you! 🫶
4:12 .... " Son, never let your pride get in the way of doing what is necessary and providing for the people you love " -Tim Grover
The opposite of what a well educated wealthy parent would say to their children.
1:16:35 - "Winning will cost your EVERYTHING, but will reward you with so much more"
I'm confused but extremely intrigued how you are able to get people so emotional so quickly
You hardly say anything or ask many questions but they're powerful
Ive seen more people cry on your show than other.
I love it
I was just telling a friend the same thing 🤷🏽♀️...I guess he makes people feel relaxed/comfortable ❤️...it's a beautiful thing.
open and honest. asking the right questions, no arrogance from the person asking willing to listen without interrupting with their own opinion
because it´s not about him. It´s about the guest, about that person. always
Tim’s book “Relentless” brought me back out of a very dark hole. I have my HS baseball team reading that book this summer. Tim, you are a life changer and your words mean more than you know. Kobe was and always will be my icon and getting a behind the scenes look into how he prepared and developed his obsession is game changing. Great episode and can’t wait to watch the others.
I couldn't stop thinking about this after watching it last night, watching this for a second time.....crack for the brain
Great to hear!
1:22:25 - "Every mistake I've made, I've reconciled" 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
"I've owned up to it"
"Whether they accept it or not, people have asked me to apologize for things I shouldn't have apologized for.... A few times I apologized for things I shouldn't have apologized for "
My man! Love this guy.👏🏼🙏🏽🤝
"Never let your pride get in the way of doing what is necessary in providing for the people you love"
Honestly Steve I think was the best one - "if you think the price of success is high, you wait until you get the bill for regret" - hit me like an absolute wall that. Great stuff
Never heard this before but fuck me this line is an absolute winner
This man should be considered in any of athlete's hall of fame career. The greatest trainer of all time.
Man Tim's story of the father really hit me. My parents are from India too, my father was a Dr but had to take up a job in the railways instead. So many highly qualified individuals had to take up jobs like this. It saddens me as they had so much potential they could have fulfilled. At the same time they gave our generation a springboard to excel. My Dad's mentality was exactly the same as Tim's Dad.
"never let your pride get in the way of doing what's necessary to provide for the people that you love". Though my dad would mention never let the ego get in the way too. Bought a tear to my eye. You are killing it Steve with these LA series. Don't stop! You need to get Lowkey & Akala on when your back in the UK!
Thanks for listening! Glad you enjoyed this one!🙏🏽
And yet you come here, on the back of all that hard work to give you every opportunity to succeed, and you call it "Systemically Racist" and cry about how bad you have it cause you think someone looked at you funny cause of your race. Imagine being given all that sacrifice and blowing it pretending to be a victim.
Indian education is about the worst it gets, globally, a Ph.D guy in India has about as much knowledge (practical, street and theoretical) as a school passout in USA.
@@MrAhuraMazda no complaints here. Systemic racism is something we all live with but we keep pressing on. Little incremental changes will eventually change the system. It just takes time.
Sounds like you are the one complaining about other people complaining. Sigh. The likes to my comment compared to yours says it all. Ah the anonymous keyboard warrior.
Same today, health care professionals from other countries still have to justify their overseas qualifications. Lots take up jobs below their qualifications as they aspire to achieve and become certified when overseas.
When he spoke about Kobe Bryant feeling something wasn't right when shooting free throws and asked for the basket to be measured & it turns out the basket was an 8th of an inch out....... now that's obsessive and a man who knows the court inside out.
Another great one Steven, incredible watch, absolutely loved it. What an inspirational man.👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
From beginning to the end, this had so many emotional levels. I was in tears and in awe of this man’s story. This was just amazing. Thank you 🙏🏾 for this. You and your team are a blessing
Thank you so much 🙏🏽 Thank you for listening
same! i was in tears too!
I could sense the intensity that MJ, Kobe, and Tim brought. It's definitely something incredible. It's no wonder why they're so rare
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of Tim before, he’s incredible - incredible episode!
Thanks Aisha!
I knew of him when I was young training ball before I became a pro bball player. Imagine coaching 2 of the GOATS. Sheeeesh!
I looked him up right away! I thought the title was click bait.
@@jrcuevas777 not only that, he trained multiple other all time greats like d wade
So much respect for interviewing style. The way you actually stopped & asked Tim “That emotion, what were you feeling?” when he talked about watching those bodies, man, that honestly takes some damn courage.
Respect.
Man at 22 minutes and 50 seconds when Tim said people don't know what that's like but he looked at you and said you know what that's like to sit in your seat and everyone thinks they want to sit in your seat until they actually sit in your seat.. holy shit man that was golden and a sign of respect from him to you
This is by far one of the greatest podcast I have ever listened to. Thank you 🙏🏽
This guy is incredible. He is a one of a kind personality. Whoever knows him is blessed 100x over. Thank you both for this inspiring insight.
Jesus, someone who’s watched there fair of CZcams videos.. sometimes you just fall upon gems. This video is one of those gems, well done guys
Dads mann.. “Never let your pride get in the way of doing what’s necessary to provide for your family.”
I love Tim. I've seen all his interviwes, could listen him talking forever. He is a Legend and thank you for interviewing him!
Btw he always gets emotional when he tells a story about his father. After so many years, it still gets to him.
56:57 When Tim began telling a story about MJ and referred to him as MJ it became crystal clear to me how much respect He had/has for him. I was 15 in 1994 watching the Bulls win and win and win.. it was a great time in sports history.
Wish he would have talked more about MJ and Kobe
“Son, never let your pride get in the way of doing what’s necessary in providing for the people you love”. My story in this season. So inspiring and life changing. Am inspired. Thank you.
12:45 - Making decisions NOT with your feelings but with my MIND.
Happiness is not a goal it is a temporary emotion, seek joy in the journey. Everything in this world comes with sacrifice. “If you think the bill of success is too high, wait until you get the bill of regret.” G-d repeats the lessons until we learn them.
Absolutely the best interview I have come across since I started listening to you. Thank you for putting such effort into bringing such high-quality guests. Can't get any more real than this man!
Interested people watch obsessed people change the world. Boom!
Maximize your focus, not your time. Your focus determines your time.
Damn, Tim is the boss. Can't argue with a man who held the most competitive and accomplished people on the planet accountable.
I'd love a behind the scenes look at how the podcast is produced - the gear, the people working on it, the sets etc.
pause it at 1:25 - gives you a taste for how SERIOUS the tech used for this Pod cast man!!! Quality
I share this curiosity too!
How does such a strong man inspire me and make me cry at the same damn time ... so good. I like how you make your guests comfortable with their emotions. No fuss, not trying to make them less or more uncomfortable.
Wow, it went from 0-60 in no time flat. That was intensely emotional
The first and only podcast (even though there were many amazing ones before) where I had to pause and rest emotionally several times during the video, as it was all too heavy and profound to absorb in one go (in the best sense of it!). Speechless Thank you xxx
Thanks for listening Anna!
I feel the exact same way. This guy was dropping life altering jewels. I had to puase it a few times.
Wow I felt this too. Had to pause and let some stuff sink in, process some of it and then resume playing.
This episode is just a GEM💚💛❤️. So GREAT !!!
I intended to listen to it while doing something else but I literally had to stop, pick my notebook ✍️and restarted it.
The vulnerability, honesty and expertise 👌of Tim Grover made this an incredible episode.
I paused it many times to take down notes...
But if I have to pick one quote (there were so many) it would be : "If you think the price of winning is too high, wait till you get the bill from regret" 🎯
Thank you Steven Bartlett and your whole team 💜
Thank you for listening, glad you enjoyed this episode 🙏🏽
One of the best interviews ever I have seen in my lifetime, a million dollars Orthy, Tim so much respect and love for you, you are an amazing human who brings this critical planet, salute you, SIr
Relentless is such a good book, this guy is a legend
He is brilliant!
1:15:13 - "You can't forget what you've seen, you can't unlearn what you've learned.. You can learn from it and on top of it"
"You're never going to be able to unsee the things you've seen"
That was brilliant....what would you unsee if you could?
This is a quote on my WhatsApp"Never let your pride get in the way of doing what's necessary to provide for the people that you love".
I have not seen a podcast where people show such a vulnerable side of themselves and as an audience, and we can connect with them so much.
IKR
LOVE how Tim became more nuanced over the years, very dope to see the development and witness him becoming what he thinks is the best.
Absolutely captivating conversation. Thank you so much Steven Bartlett and Tim Grover !!!
Literally the best podcast I’ve ever seen. I learned so much and made me reflect on my own life in ways I never thought about. As a 21 year old man trying to figure out what to do with their life, this podcast couldn’t come in a more perfect time. Thank you.
-Arnold Hendrawan
Tim better PREACH!! I shall be going back over my notes! Wow! I will thank Tim in my next keynote address for helping a sister dust herself off and get back out there! His ending is exactly what's been eating me up the past few days. I am sooooooo glad I discovered this podcast for the very first time today. I subscribed and will be sure to catch more interviews. Phenomenal!!!
This is the best Tim Grover interview I’ve heard. And the best DOAC interview given. 🙏
Wow! I'm so inspired. I need to sit down and digest everything with a pen and paper. Thank you.
I'm less than 10 minutes in and this hits so hard! The conviction and maturity feels so thick. I didn't expect this from the title of the vid. So grateful to be listening
I’m hooked on this guy Stephen, Thankyou for introducing Tim to us. This story is so compelling I’ve listened 3 times now and I learn something new every time
.new to podcasts and today I asked Alexa to chose one for me! She couldn't have chosen a better one. It hit home in so many ways. Am now rewatching it on here and the bit when he speaks of the darkness went straight to my heart! I am so afraid of the darkness, to go to that place, afraid of not been able to return but realiaed if you visit it before it visits you that can also be the doorway to freedom. Thank you. Precious 💕
This was easily one of the best videos I have seen on the internet for a long while. I could connect with every single word that Tim was speaking of. Thank you for putting this out there in the world Steven & team.
I'm a french speaking person but i've heard this interview in the genuine language: the language of mind,determination and confidence.
life is not supposed to be easy and I'm greatful for that
Holy crap 5 minutes in and f*ckin shedding some tears man. Hit hard when he talked about his dad and starting in the darkness. Felt like it took me right to my dark places and came face to face. Overwhelming
Hey Steve, am from Kenya and ever since I discovered your podcast, my life has taken a shift. Anyway, this is my first time listening to Tim and I have learnt a lot from him! This has got to be my best podcast.. He is so direct, truthful and straight to the point.. Thanks Steve for choosing to do this and for bringing such knowledgeable people to speak to this "unseen" audience!! When I am great, I hope that you can host me on your podcast! 🙏
Fellow Kenyan here...Pamoja.
@@jeffreyotingo4513 pamoja bro! 👍👊
mambo vipi watu wangu
This was a gift, thank you. It was an honor and a pleasure to listen to such a brilliant man. 🙏
Thank you Stephan and Tim! This left me in awe and glad that you had to hold your stance! Thank you for your book and this podcast.
Amazing interview. I love the interview style. You got Tim Grover to open up and be very vulnerable throughout the entire interview.
Thank you 🙏🏽 Glad you enjoyed!
First and foremost this was hands down the best podcast episode I have ever seen listen too and I have listened to loads over the years. Well done Stephen for such a well presented & balanced interview I think your tone, questions and style is a real testament to how much you appreciate your craft. I actually went out off the back of listening to this and bought highlighters so I can buy Tim’s book and pour through the quotables. I really feel that spoke to me on a very deep level more so than you would expect from someone you were previously unaware of. Thanks so much for the attention to detail it’s very much appreciated
You set the stride of a legendary interview. I’ve heard his words before on other podcasts but you brought reality and depth to it 🙏
This didn’t get the attention it deserves. THIS IS POWERFUL!!!
Tim Grover is the Legend ...
so much wisdom.
Tim Grover is a special guy. Interesting to hear him drop some amazing stories about what it was like working with MJ and Kobe.
Tim Grover is a legend himself training and molding champions like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan
Best one yet Steven Bartlett! Thank you so much to Tim Grover. First time ever commenting on a CZcams! but felt compelled too! Resonated so much with many thing he said and being a performer, athlete and coach myself I've been waiting for this absolute burst of new enthusiasm to push my business and teach and spread my knowledge, experience and expertise as I know I'm one of a kind and its time to believe it even more so than I have! wrote so many notes and bought both his books! Ready for my next season! LETS GO!
Thank you Steven, for bringing on Tim Grover onto your podcast and sharing his knowledge and insight in life... Stay Golden
What a great interview. I got this in my recommended. The interviewer seems genuinely interested in the guest. Great questions. Amazing guest, what a message. The description of the Jungian shadow is visceral. Just loved this so much. Thank you.
I could listen to Tim speak for days. 📜
Ive watched like 9 Tim Grover interviews and ready both of his books I love this man
Love the way Tim, explains happiness and how happiness is different to people, so many people in my life don’t understand that
As always Steven and crew! Thanks you so much for dropping these gems! As a basketball fan/ recreational player, I locked into this on so many levels! This has been downloaded and it will be played 100times by the end of the week! BIG UP THIS TINNGGGGG!!!
Thank you for listening! Glad you enjoyed 🙏🏽
Might be the greatest interviewer I’ve listened too
I'll be revisiting this several times. Great value. Thank you
This was intense and quietly saved in my motivational videos. I must admit many nuggets to choose from and to confront my own insecurities and fears as an entrepreneur. Tim is an insightful guy! Full of wisdom. He is incredibly and deeply intuitive! Felt I was with a businessmonk really! A modern version!
Unbelievable, very informative and beneficial - thanks for putting this together - I’ve watched many podcasts and what I can say, personally, is this has made think from a completely different angle and somewhat has made me realise how genuine this is compared to others. I will have to watch it this again as it was so deep.
This is one of the best interviews I’ve watched. Tim Grover 🔥 “bring the light & the dark”
Tim Groover is one of the Greats.
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Happiness or Winning. You not gonna find happiness and you not gonna find winning you create both. That Line really complements Attention to detail and delete the unessential's. Tim G is a legendary mind.!
Fr, I had to write that one in my journal 🖊️ 📜
Excellent positive energy as always.
“Winning will cost you everything, but it will reword you with so much more”
This is like going on a journey and concentrating so intensely, you become oblivious to all else. Thank you!
"Never let your pride get in the way of providing for the people you love..." Tim Grover
Best podcast I’ve seen to date 🔥 thank you so much for this inspiration
I mean this in the best way possible; haven't listened in a while as part of a digital detox however something drew me to tune into this today and I am blown away. Super high caliber conversation that provides one point of value after another. Thanks, Steven and the team
What a POWERFUL and inspiring conversation
1:23:50 - I enjoyed this podcast. It came at a time when I needed it the most.
Especially Tim's answer to the previous guest's question at the very end.
Thanks for listening Jerry!
Man I LOVE THIS PODCAST
Thank you for listening! 🙏🏽
This is the greatest and most impactful podcast that I've ever listened to in my life I'll never be the same
listen this is one of the most powerful interviews i have watched in a while this really motivated me to go harder. i am blown away i have a lot of episodes to go through because i just discovered this platform
very emotional conversation. I didnt knew Tim. Now this made a footprint in my situation.
Winning was such a good book, i listened to the audiobook twice in 1 week. I felt like he talks to you in the book. Read it, it may change your life.
„Winning dont make you heartless, it let you use your Heart ließ“ goosebumps. Powerful Interview!!!
Hands down one of the best episodes I've watched.
A good coach can see something in you that you didn't know was there and can push you beyond what you thought was possible. A really interesting discussion - and another great guest.
Phenomenal interview. Phenomenal man !
Bro this was top notch material. The wealth of wisdom Tim laid down was not expected at all but well received. To you & your team, keep doing your thing (yr changing lives).
This episode was absolutely everything
Sick! Thank you Steven. Your Podcast keeps getting better.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for listening 🙏🏽
One of the best episodes I have seen so far! Thank you for that. 🙂
I’ve already watched this twice… this episode is incredible