NEW CF Moto 650 GT UK Review and road test
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2020
- In this episode we try out the 650GT from CF Moto. Let us know your thoughts?
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I bought a 650GT 5 weeks ago. It now has over 6,000km on it. Firstly, overall impression is that finish is nearly up there with the Japanese. Most people comment that it looks just like a Japanese bike. Performance is adequate, but not earth shattering mainly due to very high gearing. But, this makes it REALLY nice for touring. Comfort of bike is excellent. Suspension is compliant and brakes plenty good enough for the intended use of the bike. Handling is not quite up to scratch with it becoming a little unsettled on bumpy corners. But, it never gets out of hand and never increases my heart rate, so good enough. If it slows me down a bit in bumpy corners that is probably a good thing. Handling is fine on good road surfaces. You can feel vibration through the bars but it is more a shake than vibration. It never makes my fingers go numb, so not really an issue. However, the mirrors do vibrate a bit. You can still see what is behind but not super clear. Of more concern is that they give a really good view of your forearms and you need to tuck your elbows in to see what is behind. Not a major issue, but I am used to the mirrors on my Versys 300 which are brilliant. The fuel tank is good for 400km at touring speeds, providing you are not risk averse. The fuel gauge tells big lies. It doesn't move for 160km, then drops to empty in next 200km at which point there is still 4-5 litres in the tank - assuming tank does actually hold the claimed 19 litres. I have travelled over 30km with gauge telling me the tank was already empty. It had over 3 litres left in it when I refilled. The headlight gives good penetration but like so many these days, does not have a very good spread. Not good for spotting kangaroos! I avoid travelling at night. A nice touch is that the symbols on the handlebar switches are actually lights so easily seen at night. The brightness of the TFT screen can be adjusted. I have not had any problem with it in bright sunlight and can be turned down at night.
So, overall it is a good bike, but not a great one. However, it is great value for money. I'm a happy chappy.
Thanks for the review mate.An honest review!!Enjoy the bike!I think if the name of the bike was 'benelli'or 'kawasaki' will sell a lot of them.
@@vageliskoios1062
Since I wrote the mini review I have sorted the handling on the bike. Firstly, the tyres were under inflated at pick up. I also added pre-load for when I have the bike loaded with camping gear. Both these helped and made the bike much friendlier. The final trick was to change the tyres. Yes, it comes standard with Metzelers, but they are cheap OEM variety. A change to Michelin GT Radials completed the puzzle. It is now a sweet handling bike. It is still one of the more comfortable bikes I have owned (many over the past 50 years). Definitely a keeper.
Just a pity I can't ride it at the moment. Have had half my skull removed, literally, and about to go in for 6 weeks of radiation treatment. Will be April before I get another ride. Bloody Australian sun!
@@brucecampbell4485 thanks for the mini review, take care and hope you get well soon and be able to ride again.
@@brucecampbell4485 your comment was the best review I could ask for! Thanks!
Radiation treatment sucks but you aussies are hard nails so I'm sure you'll be more than fine! Get better soon man. Sun is a little bitch for hurting you from that far. Too much of a pussy to mess with an aussie face to face💪greetings from Greece😎
Hallo my friend!, How's the bike doing after some time since you've had it? Any issues at all? are you happy with your purchase? I'm really try find owners that have got some experience with this bike so far and hopefully get one myself!. Thank you in advance!
I have got a GT 650, got it last month. Lovely comfortable ride, can be really quick when I need it, great looking bike but the downside is the lack of garages which do warranty work on it, not that I've needed it. The authorised dealer I got it from has since stopped selling them brand new. The other thing is the lack of extras for it, like crash bobbins to save the fairing, can't seem to get them anywhere. The only good side is there's a garage near me who built and ran the CF Moto UK race bikes. Overall I'm very happy with the bike itself just disappointed in the lack of garages who would honour the warranty. Nice review though lads, cheers. 😊
I thought the dealership network was growing, what part of the country are you in?
@@motorsforthemasses I'm on the Norfolk Suffolk border near diss 😊
We have the same problem in France, lack of mechanic, dealer and accessory for this 650 GT.
I'm waiting for the 2023 version, it seems to me that it will have traction control.
QTH : Toulouse (France ⚜⚜⚜ )
As someone who would like a mid-weight tourer this fits the bill perfectly!!
It's very impressive and I would love to take one for a test ride for the day once I have passed my test. Definitely something I would buy and you have done a great job with this video lads. Keep up the good work. 😁👍🏾
Awwww you see? You done it again you show'd me sumfing nice, now I got to start all over again!
Ive had my 650 gt for 6 months now and its absolutely great ,fit and finish is really good and its such fun, my mechanic was so surprised when he rode it and if he says its good then it must be I have owned and ridden 81 bikes in my time and its right up there ??? rgds Paul.
Well guys I have one of these and so far its been really good The 650GT is a lot of bike for the money as you said, Now comes with a 4 year warrantee and panniers as standard so even better value now.
As a bike to do most things on it really fits the bill its not earth shatteringly fast but equally I've had no problems keeping pace with bigger machines on a ride out just twist the throttle a little harder. lovely noise from the airbox when you open it up to.
The brakes are really good and the company that make them is owned by Brembo, KYB suspension is plush but firm enough to push on if you need to I've had no problems, had lots of bikes over 35 years and can say this is a really good allrounder, just over 200 miles to the tank from full 19L, when I filled it up I could only get 16L in it so it still had 3Ls in there so I guess another 20 miles before its desperate.
Comfortable and smooth and the finish is holding up really well so far its proved to be a really good bike.
There nothing that can compare on price for what you get and with 4 years warrantee up your sleeve its not much of a gamble anymore.
When it was delivered to the dealer it came in a very big box with Kawasaki logos on it so I'm not worried about it falling apart at all there is no hint of poor quality anywhere I've looked and I've looked hard I can tell you.
Cheers.
Thank you for the feedback!
Merci ! 👍
C.F. Moto has really step up there game their ATV and UTV are really good .
Great review again, and your reviews was one of the reasons I took a punt on a Keeway 'Chinese' 125. Lovely bike it was and I done 16k miles from New without missing a beat! Bought for £1500 and sold it for £900, that's 600 for 2 years biking! Thanks guys, I was waiting for bigger displacement bikes to come along and I'm torn between the GT & MT both are impressive machines.
We will be checking out the 650 MT on our 3 day trip in April
I saw the first version of the CF650GT about 6 or 7 years ago and was very impressed with it's "Mini Pan European" look. I was a little disappointed at the lack of uptake and have never seen one in the flesh as it were. It's great to see CF motor have another "crack" at it. And with the perception of Chinese built machines changing so much recently (for all the reasons you quite rightly state) I hope they'll move a few more of these this time round especially with the sharper updated styling.
I've got one of those in white. Good bike, the boxes are useful and the dash is nice and big.
Nice review boys.. how about the fuelling during heavy traffic? Is it accurate and smooth?
I'm not into touring machines, but this one looks very, very nice.
Hi, thank you for your review - it made me smile. I'm considering one of these for my 40 min Melbourne Australia commute (30min Motorway /10min City) a couple of days a week. Sat on one today and was surprised how comfortable (I'm 5ft 6ish) it was ... but then I looked down to the tank & immediately thought gosh how would I manage this in city traffic? Turning left (or right for that matter) from a red light - eck!! And what about filtering? I've been buzzing about on a Honda CT110 for a couple of decades (loving it) - I've moved a bit further from the city now and this would be the biggest bike I would have ridden. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
0-60 in 3.5 seconds. No way. Good value bike. Thorough review.
More like 5.5 as shown on a few Indian you tube channels 🤔
Great to see a review on the CF'S and they do a 150NK, 250NK, 300 sport bike 400NK just search for them on CZcams. I have a 650MT had it for nearly 2 years been great bike did have some issues with dripping water pump had the pump changed 3 times now under warranty think its sorted now. Went on a tour of the south Island of New Zealand did 5500KM in 2 weeks fully loaded with all my camping gear had no issues. Forgot to mention that I live in NZ. Price wise we are a lot cheaper than the UK my MT $8000 about 4000 pounds on the road and the 650NK $7000 on the road.
Last of all search for the new 700cc there are 3 versions which look really cool.
checked both GT and MT, Ended up with 650MT like the more upright adventure touring style, for the price cant go wrong and up to yet trouble free, not the quickest but will reach road legal speeds easily and cruise all day when touring.
Hi
Thanks for the videos great review! sizing is very important for how confident one is on a bike, liked the 3 different height rider demonstration 👍👍
Also I have a question..
Excluding cost, is this bike comparable with a Yamaha Tracer 700? or Yamaha is a noticeable jump in quality and ride dynamics?
Thanks!!
I agree with Garry Balls comment below. First ones were a mini Pan European. I ride a Pan In New Zealand. An excellent bike it is. But, if i ever need to downsize, i will seriously consider the CF MOTO GT. Just wish it had an electronically adjustable screen and shaft drive. The later is probably to costly to install on a bike like this.
Had a cf moto 650 2013 reg so good that I bought a versys 650 only because versys better looking cheers from dave
Hi sir, can you teach how to replace the coolant, I haven't found any video for the GT model
does the tft dash have night mode>? like it change from white background to black?
Hai..i really like this bike..nice..so smart. Really i like sport touring bike..yess..👍✌️
Lads any chance you could do a review on 3 different 650cc adventure bikes. This would be very helpful as I want to move up to a mid range bike
I'll see what I can put together
Nice bike, the uk road tax is a bone of contention for all 650's as the cost is substantially more than a 600 and the same as litre bikes .
Great video as always. Looking to move up to full license this spring and have been looking at bikes with a low seat height as I am vertically challenged. Also weighing in at 60 kilos not sure how I would cope having to push this in an out my garage over gravel. Still more affordable than a Kawasaki so worth thinking about.
Have a serious consideration of the Zontes T310. 95mph top end, 6 speed 312cc, only around 30 odd kilos more than a 125. Great bikes.
Triumph must be raking it in
With there production a board.
I THINK IT ISA PERFECT AND AFFORDABLE AND SUITABLE FOR MY HEIGHT WHICH IS 5 SIX
Great video got a question tho it might sound silly but as the frame is steel and it is mainly made for China would it rust quickly in the uk
No! It's the same frame as my 650nk which is 4 years old and still no rust and I live by the coast
Hi! I was wondering, have you ever come across the 150NK from CF Moto? I just got one, really like it, but I am having trouble finding information about it online. Mainly looking to replace the front sprocket. Do you perhaps know if the UK ever got this bike? Maybe you can point me in the right direction?
Thanks! Awesome videos btw!
Sorry, CF Moto never did the 125 range and 150s were Europe and Asia only as UK learner limit was 125.
I got knocked off my Honda VTR1000F Firestorm back in January, sadly the VTR (being 16 years old) didn't make it through the assessor's inspection. So I'm now looking for something to replace it with. The CFMoto 650GT and 650MT both look excellent!
Are they Euro 5 compliant?
Do they really have backlight switches?
Are CFMoto going to bring a larger capacity bike to the UK?
Could they bring an electric bike to the UK?
For the cost of these bikes, I would happily buy two, one being the MT, the other being the GT.
Excellent channel by the way, reall enjoy it. It's a good concept, and quite unique too. Good work!
Hi, thank you for stopping by and commenting.
Glad you came out of the crash ok. Euro 4, yes. Euro 5...not sure at this stage. CF Moto ARE bringing bigger bikes to the UK, especially now they have partnered with KTM....watch out for the 790 engined CF Moto....(that's all I'm saying).
Finally...THANK YOU!
Just had a look on auto trader and there seem to be a few new CF Moto 650s at just under £4500, which to be honest is amazing value.
I think they are getting closer and closer to the 'prestige' manufacturers in terms of visual design, although possibly not quite there yet - although beauty is in eye of the beholder, as we know.
And the mechanical design and general reliability seems to be pretty much on a par these days.
Hopefully they'll move into the retro middleweight market- I think they'll probably undercut Royal Enfield with just as good a product.
If I was a fan of the more modern looks and I wanted a new middleweight on a budget, I'd be really tempted by this I think.
Modern retro versions are coming soon....watch this space
@@motorsforthemasses be still my beating heart 😃
The design is by Kiska.. Same designer firm from Austria that design KTM
Ok for someone who’s just passed there test on a kawa z650? Resale value and parts availability in my only concern
Hallo everyone, I am really looking into buying one of these bikes, especially the gt650 looks fantastic! I am just a bit curious and scared to actually buy one of these in terms of reliability and durability over the long term. Any suggestions? I would appreciate any help! Great Review on this bike, keep it up! Thanks!
Very impressive. The previous version was a bit of a sleeper. It didn't sell particularly well for no reason other than weak marketing. As others have said - a decent "Mini Pan". This 2023 model is available for £4499 otr (whilst stocks last) and is an absolute bargain 😳
What about driving with a second person on this bike? Is it OK?
Why give tank capacity in litres the MPG. Please state both.
I guess my only concern would be the resale value. I mean it's a 650 learners bike and those who are stepping through would one day want to sell it. There will always be that connotation of Chinese is cheap and it'll stick to this band for a while. I bought a Versys and love it. Better brand and heritage.
Sad that a name carries so much value
Thanks for the review. Yes they do made a 125 and 150 cc here in China. Probably they don't think there is a market for it in the UK. www.cfmoto.com/125CC/14087.html. The GT650 represents really good value here in China since all the Japanese bikes get hit with a luxury tax and end up costing twice as much as the cfmoto.
It is probably in the UK as WK branded. Same UK distributors and as far as I know they come out of the CF Moto factory. WK used to do a 650 that was the CF Moto and now you can't get that as WK branded but can as CF Moto branded.
To get an idea of how big the bikes are that you review, could you tell me how tall you guys are and how much each one of you weighs please.
I notice this bike has an audible whirring sound as you eccellerate and as you do drive bys. Is that the cam chain?
They explain how tall they are in the video.
What Ol Holmes said...
I would have considered this bike over the TRK 502 if I had known it existed
I changed my trk for one of these and have not regretted it one bit it’s a fantastic bike with less vibes and lower revs at crusing speeds than the Benelli it’s the main reason why I changed it great tft with Bluetooth and nav included with the cf moto app 4 years warranty and 2 years 0% finance 🇨🇳 thumbs up from me
It looks like a baby FJR1300
I wanna see a 250cc monkeybike or minibike, loads of us stick bigger motors in or tune the 125s anyway and plenty with a full bike license, would be perfect having the same fun size bike but with motorway ability for longer faster roads to get to the nicer twisties.
Hmmm, cogs turning...
@@motorsforthemasses people are sticking cb300r engines in groms, even a mt07 motor in one of the channels i follow plus various 2 strokes, can be 190 motors that bolt straight in the monkeys too that can do 80+ but a nice fast bog standard 250 that can be tuned if you wish would be my ideal bike for ragging around the Lake district and down the coast. Needs 20/25bhp
You never did the new 650mt 😳 i think its a brilliant bike for the price
New MT coming in early 2021, we will review it.
A very nice bike , I would not say no to one but why when you go to high beam headlights do the lowbeams go off? , can this be altered.
I suspect the beams do swap when you select high beam - unlike when you use the headlamp flash function. Normally I wouldn't recommend having both beans on the same switch (without a relay) but due to the low current requirement of LED I think it would be a relatively easy to rewire for both beams. I'm not sure of the legal position though?
@@PhilipBallGarry What you said lol
Do you know if anyone does a top case for this?
www.fc-moto.de/en/SHAD-TOP-MASTER-CF-MOTO-400GT-/-650GT
Both Givi and Shad will fit
It wont do 0 to 60 in 3.5 secs. My 650nk which is lighter can do 4.5 secs
The thing I don't understand though. The GT is more expensive than the MT "Adventure" model. But. the MT has adjustable suspension front and rear whereas the GT does not (well, to be exact, it does have preload on the back but pretty much every bike has that). £200 more for less. Hmm...
Yes, the pricing does seem odd. Tried both the MT and the GT last week. The loss of the adjustable forks up front on the GT isn't too much of an issue for a mostly on road tourer than say the MT that needs to go handle rougher and more variable roads, although I doubt many will actually take the MT off road. However being 5'6, the MT was a little too tippy toe for me. Was told by the CF rep both bikes have slightly different gearing and tuning....something not very apparent from a 5 min test ride around the block on both. Not a fan of the exhaust note. They should learn from Benelli how to make a twin sound good.
@@4G63TDSM Though I'm not sure the MT would, or indeed should, see much off road action. I own a KTM 390 Adventure and that has seriously better suspension but still not great off road.
I think the 125 cc market is swamped with bikes from China. CF Moto seem to be specializing in the larger machines, which is not a bad thing.
They mak
Max speed is 170km/h
Can you explain what a Kawasaki derived engine is
I've got one, engine is direct copy of 2008 er6 / ninja 650 motor
It's rubbish if it's a copy why is is down 20 bhp down on power and heavy
I thing the price you said is not correct because the 400 gt cost 5990
Definitely the correct price. 400GT is £4779 plus otr.
Hi, Mate, A possible explanation for CF MOTO not doing 125:
As the CF Moto's 'massive' target customers come from China, and Chinese riders believed 250cc and 400cc bikes were actually for beginners, while 125 maybe a wee bit of out of the games. You know, in China, the bike licence basically has no categorisations, as long as you pass the same test, you can ride any bike with any cc. Chinese have no CBT, Learner Legal, A1 or A2 licence. Besides, there are some good companies occupied 125cc bike market in China, so I think CF may not willing to throw money at the new engine invention.
They have a 125, a 150, 250 and 300 range of bikes.
Just not all are imported to the UK.
@@chrispekel5709 Thanks for updating mate.
China is going places👍
Good value but what about parts availability and residual worth after a few years? The name CF Moto not very dream worthy is it.
CF MOTO is a big chinese company!The parts is not a problem
I have not seen any on the roads in England.
you can find many parts of cfmoto in the taobao，and the price are very cheap
Very bad buy. Many problems. No parts
Really?
@@motorsforthemasses Yes🤦♂️🤦♂️🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬