This is such a precise analysis - you're a huge inspiration man! 👊
He doesn't pronounce "bokeh" correctly. Precise or comprehensive? More like comprehensive.
"At their keynote every year, apple says, this is the fastest iphone ever made", "Well I hope it is the fastest you've ever made, you shouldn't be making slower phones from last year." 😂😂 Had me laughing for a while.
Samsuck galaxy Noott 8 exploision concept problem is not all companies believe it or not make a better camera each time for their successors . Look at the htc m8,m9,10
I laughed the most when Google gave Apple shit for removing the headphone jack...then proceeded to remove themselves
With all the flagship models, most cameras do great and you're right, it is difficult to tell the difference. After all, in real life, nobody is going to sit and compare your travel photos taken with the Google Pixel 2 or the iPhone 8. The best camera is the one we have with us, and more often than not, the most important element of the camera is the one who's pressing the shutter.
I love this type of videos where we can actually understand what nobody explained before. Thanks! 💪🏼
Enrique Álex watch Gary Sims explains from Android authority that guy is good too
Who better to explain an image quality benchmark than the crispy king?
i make funny videos like marques i truly hope they make you laugh and put a smile on your face :) !
You get a 109 for this video.
i make funny videos like marques i genuinely hope they put some positivity into your day :) !
quality of smartphone camera - dxomark
quality of youtube videos - MKBHOmark
Great info
This is one of my favourite videos of MKBHD. Don't know why.... maybe because he's so straight up in this video
You should get an award for this video.
More specifically for creating videos that relate to the reality of the popular assumptions made in every technological aspect.
Damn what started out as an "Explained!" video turned into the best tech rant of 2017
Was reading comments on a DXO review and someone linked to this video to explain how individual (still) scores could all be below the overall still score. Mr. Brownlee provided the answer: an algorithm. He also reviewed the basic scoring system and chided tech writers for not doing same. He advised us to look for the scores of the variables that matter most to each reader/photographer. He also informed us that DXO does consulting work. I knew this already - don't know whether I read it on DXO's website, or in an article about sensors or something like that - and I don't think it reflects poorly on those involved. Be it education, industry, professional associations and so on: benchmarks, standards, testing all exist for good reason. Thanks.
Samsung Bokeh: 45
Pixel Bokeh: 45
@Sid He said the note 8 scored higher than pixel in zoom and bokeh although the bokeh stat listed in the video is the same for both cameras
Hypedoc cause Samsung is yet new and after updates it will be better
iPhone 8 Plus 55. And both the iPhone 8 Plus and the Note 8 have way higher scores for zoom
You are correct, but if you know something about cameras then you would know that portraits are taken at a higher focal length, thus the Note 8 which has the same Bokeh rating will produce a better image than the Pixel because it has a camera with a higher focal length with the same Bokeh.
Watching this after dexomark giving S21 a lower score than its predecessor the s20. Simply laughable.
Yeah man sometimes I wonder how what metrics they actually measure to give scores for the phones
Apple: "This is the fastest iPhone we've ever made". Marques, "Well I hope it's the fastest iPhone you've ever made, you shouldn't be making slower phones from last year"
Nailed it! 😂😂😂 And well explained 👍
Seriously...i was going to comment that too, coz it made me go ROFL 😂😂😂
SuperSaf TV When Apple watches this video they're going to plan to say that for the next iPhone
I have always found that kind of dumb to say your phone is faster than the previous model, if it wasn't you are doing something wrong
One man, quality of an entire team
Mustafa Chaudhry I was literally thinking that when he was explaining how most of the media outlets are wrong
He does have a helper now. But that didn't really effect the quality of his videos.
The rest of the press just cares in the number of clicks/ the money, MKB actually cares in informing
Doesn't he have a couple of people to help with organization and production? Most of the big CZcamsrs are making some hires.
Explained to the depth
MKBHD is back with the hell informative videos . A thumbs up for that 😊
Very useful information! Bravo Marques (+ team Marques). Excellent
Wanna go slap the people who said it was out of 100. WOWwee, good job tech reporters. Theres a reason MKBHD has been the top tech reviewer for a long time.
They probably just jumping on the hype train or they just don't know any better, you know the itty-bitty stuff that is. Just like certain cosplayer, they don't know shit what they're cosplaying about. A poser basically.
That happens because "everyone" can be a Tech reviewer nowadays. They think is just read the technical sheet, use the device for 1 week and they're done. For example: I couldn't find one single youtube video saying that you have to plug the MacBooks on the power and connect a mouse\trackpad\keyboard to keep it away from sleeping while with the screen closed.
5 million strong and still making honest videos that aren't afraid to be critical of the norm. MKBHD is the best!
he's defending apple with almost every line... just did a good job making it not obvious
This testing thing with giving their test to manufacturer sounds a lot like Volkswagen knowing what emissions test they were taking.
I love your videos man, keep up the great work!
Marques's face in the thumbnail is like " boiiii am bouta roast ya"
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I'm a sociologist and i found your video kinda awesome in an epistemology and methodology way. I make a lot of researchs in different areas and also work as a consultant for financial entities. Sometimes we have to weight the results in order to achieve a) the measures the universe is "suppose" to have or b) to put priority on what is important for the client. As a sociologist i know that measures are always artificial and imperfect but if it is done rigoruosly, and that's the key word, it can help to achieve the objective (not perfect or universal but helpful). We have to understand that we, as humans, can't measure things in a pure objective way, there are always a lot of variables that aren't included in the researchs and the tools we use to measure are relative to our perception. So always grab investigations, researchs or reviews with a grain of salt, or better try to understand how the research was done.
The video should be called- DxOMark Smartphone Ratings: Exposed
@@0uincy It doesnt matter if that is rated by professionals or not. Since it has a conflict of interest, I would not trust DXO at all.
I love how he's just like,"Nope....that's not what it is..."
Is this MKBHDs best *"Explained"* video _to date?_ I think so!
Eman Manue I rate it 108/100. But seriously tho, this is one of his best videos and one of the best tech videos that I've ever seen.
One of the best videos... I really like the part where in you introduced the data science and analytics part and explained the weights and all. You are taking your videos to the next level and moving towards AI and ML. Keep it up. Best of luck. We all learn and grow from each other. Peace.
Love it man. A simple explanation of DXO marks and the weighting system. Again Marques knocks it out the park :-)
Wow this was seriously very informative. Thank you for this, MKBHD 100. Yeah pure marketing
to leave that info out...smh.
Dxo scores aren’t out of something greater than 100, their a score based on how good the camera is. If a camera was good enough it could get a score of a million.
hands down one of mx fave MKBHD vid ever.. thanks for enlightening me..
One would think there is a theoretical maximum score, if it is based on an algorithm.
I like it when MKBHD does explanations. Need more of those.
Definitely one of your best videos. Absolutely tore it up in this one 👏👏👏
This one of the best videos you have ever made......we want more of these topics discussed and showed at it's realist far away from the hype & the rush for shiny titles
Keep up the great work
This Time no "Dear Google "Dear DXO Mark" "Dear Press" ; Just Destroyed all at once! *Fatality*
he worries about the technology, not the brands themselves, I think that is one of the reasons why it has become one of the main references in terms of technology, continue that way marques, in the world of technology you are the reason in the chaos, greetings from dominican republic, peace
marques banging out awesome videos as usual. I remember when you were younger man. Man have you grown as well as your content. and you NEVER sold out :)
I'm glad SOMEONE finally said it "This is the fastest iPhone yet" like legit, is that not the purpose of a new phone? Just better overall? haha thank you for saying it MKBHD
And I really like this video, especially the comparison to Geekbench. That's actually a perfect way to think of it.
Yasss!! I always throw my hands up like there we go again, fastest ever, thinnest ever, brightest ever like, is that worth mentioning???? Everyone does that, sheesh
wait, until now NOBODY have said that out loud? it's like the most obvious marketing "trick". it's not even really a trick because it's so dumb.
Literally the first person I've heard finally mention this dumb ass marketing tactic. "This is the best iPhone we've ever made"
Marques calling out Engadget though. My man!
Back here in 2022, and DXOmark scores are now nowhere to be found. Glad to say Marques' predictions were right.
I love your videos man. You can't find a lot of this kind of reporting - objective. The average user gets easily fooled by what you call it "media" and sort of reviews that trigger only a certain point of a product.
Anyway, you got my respect and I hit subscribe just because I want to see the other side of the things.
Thanks.
This is why MKBHD is the best tech reviewer on CZcams.
lmao that endgadget chick got rekt
I always appreciate when Marques makes Explained videos.
Great video and journalism, quality stuff from you as always, cheers!
This video is a solid 108/100 in my scale of CZcams video content quality.
And yes, that WAS supposed to be out of 100.
MKBHD .... every marketing team's worst nightmare. 😃😃
Awesome work!
Super clean and crisp video 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
This video is so clear on my monitor. That's by the way. I have always wondered how they come up with those scores. Thanks for the video, Marques.
If this is how my physic teacher taught me about the theory of relativity, I would have been a NASA astronot by now
now you see, my spelling teacher didn't do his job well either, aahh what school did I go to?
uranglintau it would be impossible to teach the average student that in highschool. teaching it would require high level maths and physics that are beyond the grasp of the average college student.
you mean teaching 'astronaut' spelling would require high level maths and physics?
Hmm...
I agree
Your videos are super clean, very informative and in depth! Always killing it!
rmnsher Man what are you talking about ? Would you have preferred him to recreate the footages of DXO mark guys testing phones ? He made a research, he analysed facts, made logical deductions and synthetised everything in a well edited video.
Appreciate the effort you and your team has put to make this video for us. By far one of the best content from you. 👍🏼👍🏼
Good solid reporting! I think the problems with DxO procedures go even deeper. Take for example the bokeh test which sets the camera in a fixed distance from the front object and the front object from the background object. Well, that’s useful if every photo you take uses those distances but more than likely NO photo you take will have those exact relationship distances. It would not be a valid conclusion to think DxO’s bokeh test will tell you anything about a photo you make if it has different and likely very different distances. I loved the fact that they have a viewing panel of experts who view “real world” photos and then judge which camera was most accurate. Even 5 experts will disagree about this sort of thing, you only need to look at a camera forum or a high end hifi forum to see how differently people react to the same images. I could go on and on. The attempt to be “scientific” means DxO has to standardise conditions, temperature, light source colour, locked on a tripod, etc which means if you replicate the situation then you should get repeatable results. But real world shooting means NO conditions are standardised.
In fact most high end smartphone cameras can make better photos than the people doing the shooting. It’s false to think anyone can find “the best” camera. Now go download CIPA’s white paper on Image Stabilisation tests for another eye opener of meaningless stats.
Great video, subscribed!!
Wow! This is great reporting. Marques keep doing what you do. So much knowledge.
This is why MKBHD is the no.1 independent tech channel on CZcams. Marquis brings up the really really important issues which million dollar tech media companies gloss over. He explains things in such a good manner, which is easily digestible by non-techies, yet palatable for the geeks. I felt my eyes open, felt enlightened by the information given in this video. _I wouldn't be surprised if CZcams refused to put this on Trending_ hahaha.. Half a million views in 6 hours + a very very important information. It better be trending in every country!!
@mkbhd this was an awesome video. Non biased and to the point and great courage to talk about the reality. Cudos!
Brilliant, informative and honest. Jeez, these are the reviews I enjoy. Awesome!
MKBHD had to daddy up on those tech journalists 😁
This guy is so honest and amazing and I am worried that someday some tech giant may get annoyed !!!
awesome video, marques! That callout was savage af.
My 1987 IBM laptop camera has a DXO rating of over 9000
I never knew laptops back then even had cameras... Was there some sort of ancient skype that none of us are aware of?
You just go to every video of every known youtuber and just insert any "unfunny" joke in the comments.
Awesome man!! One of your best videos:)
This was a really good and well researched video. Keep it up!
I give this video a DxOMark rating of about 250
This is absolutely the best structured argument on CZcams I've ever seen.
Outstanding video. I really learned something today. Thank you for taking the time to put together such an in-depth, objective explanation in these scores, and how the rating process works.
Love you Mkbhd! This was amazingly informative
This is what Juan Bagnel was talking about before on his review of HTC U11 but Marques explained it well why you can't just based the camera performance on a single score.
i swear every video you upload trends
And yet he can't pronounce "bokeh" properly. He knows nothing about technology or photography.
One word and you conclude that he knows nothing about tech or photography? Well he is arguably the biggest techtuber on youtube with 5+ million subscribers (: how bout you? what has your salty ass accomplished? you probably get alot of praise from pronouncing one word correctly huh? smdh
It's probably them cookies at it again. I've never seen his videos trend... just other random crap I never click. It's like... it wants to corrupt me
CZcams has its favourites it's nothing to do with the quality of video or size of following.
I think the best way to choose for ourselves is the blind test you did. Hopefully you can upload another one after all the new phones are out! :)
This reminds me of why did I subscribe onto this channel once again. Thank you MKBHD.
Also point that 98 for a phone doesn't mean it has the same performance as an actual camera with a 98 score because I am sure some people will think that
This is why executives from companies like Apple are willing to sit down and speak with this man. He's a monumental step ahead of every tech CZcamsr out there, he's more of an independent journalist than a common CZcams tech reviewer. This video is simply amazing.
Just wanted to say you are one of my most trusted reviewers and I appreciate how in-depth your research goes. Thanks Marques!
One of your best videos to date. Keep up the good work.
MKBHD is the GOAT man
He really is. His explanations are clear. And helps me to make an informed decision when I'm buying a $1000 device
This video is just another reason why MKBHD is the best tech CZcamsr out there right now. Awesome stuff.
Thank you man for explaining this. Awsome videos, cant wait to see more.
Brilliant video man! Very informative... Keep it up!
Probably one of the best videos from Marques ever. Showcasing himself as an imperious authority on the subject
man this is one of your best videos, thanks for the CORRECT information, you won my techie heart
Seriously the most informative video I've seen in a long time. Amazing job buddy
Always... ALWAYS.... your videos are so pleasant to watch. Thanks for sharing Marques
I’m waiting for DXOMark to review the Nokia 3310 camera
*the next day*
"Breaking News: DxOMark headquarters destroyed by an earthquake caused by a dropped Nokia 3310"
this is the second video i have watched so far and I think I've found my favorite smartphone reviewer! Your'e very informative and in depth
Very good and informative information Marques! Thank you for the video!
"Stop it, get some help" lol
the fact that he cropped that far into the frame and there was no perceivable loss in quality is my favorite part of this video
Informative videos like this are what make MKBHD a great channel.
Your truth level is 200/100
Finest quality video I have seen in the recent times. The clarity of his thoughts and explanations are top!
Awesome reporting! I would like this video twice if I could. So glad I found you from the studio tour LTT did with you.
It's probably the best review website for smartphone cameras available on the Internet right now, but people are misusing a whoooole lot.
Thanks for the explainer Marques, you are right on the money.
You basically cannot have a single score that is completely representative of camera quality because not only there's a whole ton of variables and a whole ton of photography needs, you also end up with some pretty subjective stuff mixed in between.
For instance, some people might find a color profile that is completely uncalibrated over a perfect calibration. Ever wonder why people use filters so much? There's a miriad of factors that work just like that. Even a broke down score sheet with several different judging factors is leaving out a whole lot of stuff that matters.
And even outside all that, people should know that you can get some pretty awesome smartphone cameras in smartphone that will give you a pretty bad experience in everything else. This isn't happening so much these days since features have plateaued quite a bit, but I do remember hybrid smartphones of the past that tried to make plenty good cameras, but ended up with a smartphone that was really annoying to use and carry around.
Finally, let me add just one bit about CZcams reviews in general... people should know that what you see on CZcams regarding videos and photos from cameras might not be good enough for reviews. Simply put, CZcams compression has a major influence over it. Not saying it shouldn't be done, not saying they aren't helpful, but much like review websites caveats, it's something to know about so you don't completely rely on one source or another exclusively and end up with a bad device as result.
This is your BEST DxO Mark video you've ever made.
Dave Lee Subtle. Nice.
Dave Lee Hey, Dave
Dave Lee lol😂
Dave Lee thumbs if you liked it, subs if you loved it... Done both!
Love u mkbhd and dave.......love from India...🙂🙂