What the FRACK Happened to GALACTICA 1980?
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Even though he wasn’t a part of this series, RIP Terry Carter (Colonel Tigh) December 16, 1928 - April 23, 2024 😢
He was on NBC's MacCloud 🤠 too. NYPD det, Joe.
Immortalised on both large.. ans small screen.
I hadn't heard he passed, he was great on that show
He was my favorite character on the show.
I believe he had moved to Holland?
While he wasn't in Galactica 1980, Terry Carter (Colonel Tigh in original BSG) passed away yesterday at the age of 95.
That's really sad to hear. He was brilliant in OG BSG.
@@bryndaldwyre3099 And in McCloud too.
R.I.P. I didn't know that Stephen.
@@cheapphish McCloud, wow that takes me back!
That episode with Starbuck is the best and only really memorable episode of this series.
I totally agree.
Robinson Caruso in space. 😊
That scene from the episode The Return of Starbuck ( Not one Human. Not one Cylon. Friends ) it still brings a tear to the eye after so many years
The reason for the emphasis on Dr. Zee, the scouts, the time travel stuff and the 7pm time slot was that the show was aimed at kids.
I was one of the little kids they were marketing to and I haaaated Dr Zee. Then and now. 😂 I did love Boxy and Muffit in the original show though. I even had a Muffit action figure who was my Barbie's pet.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 Yeah, I didn't care much for the show myself, except for the Starbuck episode. I was a bit older than the target audience in 1980. I had a chance to see the "real" Muffet at the Universal Studio tour. I don't know if was the same chimp though. :-) Cylons all over the tour, and pieces of sets lying around the back lot.
My father-in-law Ronald Gilbert Satlof (now deceased), was the director of the “Return of Starbuck” episode. Ron was reportedly good friends with Galactica creator Glen Larson (Ron used to say that Larson wrote an early version of the Battlestar pilot script while a guest on Ron’s sailboat moored in Marina Del Rey). I recall Ron was especially pleased that the Starbucks episode was such a ratings hit when it first aired. It was always my favorite, too. Thanks for putting this behind-the-scenes video together. Haven’t seen “1980” since, well, 1980.
The return of Starbuck episode made it all worth while! It was a great way to close out the original series!
A very sad one too: did we really want to see Starbuck stranded and all alone in that planet? It makes you want to turn the clock back to the original series and relive the good old days of being with the GALACTICA family…
There is no Galactica 1980. That was a nightmare I had.
Lol
Bad Taco Bell, huh? :D
A nightmare the whole fandom had
You are absolutely right. I guess after washing my eyes out with bleach, some stuff slipped.
Galactica '80 was a Count Iblis hallucination. Honestly though I enjoyed it, but it felt...weirdly different, like the 2nd season of Buck Rogers. Thanks for the review.
In 1977, we moved to Sardinia right after my family got to see "Star Wars" in the theater. For the next two years we had no TV and the only sci-fi space movie I got to see in the theater was "Battle Beyond the Stars" with John Boy Walton and George Peppard. So today I have a soft spot for that movie.
We moved to Chicago in 1979 and I was thrilled to watch any sci-fi shows. "Galactica" and the first season of "Son of Svengoolie" were life savers! Still a big Sven fan today.
Terry Carter just died. He played Colonel Tigh. R.I.P.
Sad to hear that.
My condolences to his family.
Troy and Dillon were like the guys who replaced Bo and Luke Duke
I didnt realize the starbuck episode was from 1980 i always thought it was from the original series you enlightened me
Yeah, it's so awesome. Check it out :-)
It was like replacing Bo and Luke Duke from The Dukes of Hazzard!
People had more common sense than those producers thinking it would ever take off! Everyone knew after they announced it it was over!
@@quantumfx2677Not everyone. You can't speak for all of BSG fandom.
Proof that majorly cheaping out on a sequel series just doesn't work. A huge letdown to fans of the original series. 😮
I still can't figure out why Starbuck was marooned on that planet, given that he had a perfectly good Cylon ship at his disposal at the end of the episode.
Also, talk about what happened to The Greatest American Hero.
I have a cape, shirt, and instruction manual along with the metal boxes series set. Very cool!
Well alllright.
The Starbuck episode was great!
Loved the original show!!! Jane Seymour!!👉🏼😍
After she left the show went downhill.
I love that you used FRACK in the title. I remember two episodes. the one where Starbuck was back (the last episode), and for whatever reaseon the one where a Cylon was nearly taken out by a mirocowave...
Dirk Benedict makes fun of BSG in the A-team intro when a cylon at a theme park walks past him 😂
I was always hoping to see the A-Team episode where they had that scene, and they never did! It turned out they just filmed it for the credits. Darn!
He was like, "Don't I know you from somewhere?" LOL.
I was part of the write in campaign to bring back Battlestar Galactica.
Hey Dan, your audience wants to start a "how cool is that" drinking game. You down?
How cool is that? A drinking game!
I’ve often wondered if that last episode of Galactica 1980 was the inspiration for the 1984 Dennis Quaid film ‘Enemy Mine’ where a human and alien are stranded together on a remote planet.
That Starbuck episode reminded me of the sci-fi movie, "Enemy Mine"
That Starbuck episode was a mix to me of Robinson crisoe and enemy mine.
That episode with Starbuck left an impression. Maybe I related his being stranded reflects how I feel sometimes.
It was like a well written Twilight Zone episode.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire Starbuck...
& he brought Mister T !
And here I've been operating under the belief that the episode with Starbuck was an unfinished regular episode that they shoehorned into the new show.
Galactica 1980 really did Starbuck dirty... What they did to "party boy" Starbuck was a sentence to Purgatory, and REALLY made me ANGRY (as angry as seeing "Sam Beckett never returned home" on my TV screen [too well-known to be a spoiler])...
The flying cycles became "CHIPS in Space"... ;-P
"Troy" was supposedly Boxey's true name, and "Boxey" was a nickname that he tries to live down (no explanation given for the name in OG Galactica)...
"Galactica:1980" was really just a bunch of felgercarb that they just fracked up... ;-P
I was excited when Galactica 1980 aired but not so excited after I watched it.
The Cylons heard rap music in it's infancy and called off the war stating that humans have way many more problems to deal with in the future. 😅
I remember they inevitably parodied the show in Mad magazine, it was called “Cattle Star over Attica”
7:30 RIP Terry Carter
The return of Starbuck has to be the best episode of that series. That being said it's still a decent series except for the fact that they had all the space kids in Scout uniforms period when they leave those out you have a promising series with Dylan and Troy exploring the planet those few episodes on the flying bikes period in the re-edited with Wolfman Jack and the Centurion on Halloween that was a good episode
Return of Starbuck was the only reason for Galactica 1980 to exist.
one of the main issues with the show? it was broadcast sunday nights at 7 PM ET / 6PM CT. It was made for "kiddies". Therefore they kinda dumbed it down.
Starbuck was my favorite episode. They should have explained the fates of the rest of the OG cast.
It was explained with a throwaway line about sons and daughters who didn't survive.
The Return of Starbuck, is the only episode that I watch from Galactica 1980 run as well, it felt as you say as if it belonged to the original BSG season and it was truly fantasticon so many levels; the show runners definately missed a trick by short changing the show and stripping its budget away; they should have invested instead of pulling the chicken switch.
I met Herbert Jefferson Jr @ Travis AFB in 2007. When I mentioned to him about Galactica 1980, he didn’t want to talk about it.
I met him at Travis as well. We just talked about acting in general. He is a class guy.
The 7pm timeslot was the reason for the kids on the show. Episodes about pollution and sportsmanship were made thus getting away from the original concept.
As a kid, I loved it, especially, the turbocycles!
On a related note, Terry Carter, who played Colonel Tigh, recently passed away at age 95. RIP Terry Carter
I hope he knew how much he touched many of our childhoods. Col. Tigh, Starbuck, and Apollo, were a triumvirate of positive male role models, to me.
While 1980 was airing, I was at a party in SF and ran into Glen Larson who asked me what I thought about 1980. I don't recall exactly what I said, but I think it was carefully guarded way of saying I didn't like it. And my memory says that Larson agreed that it wasn't very good - but his defense was that he was following orders and didn't have very much time to put the show together.
Dan: Don’t remember Galactica 1980? Loved original series. Sad story: I was so hyped that Sunday night for network debut of Battlestar Galactica as a kid made my own dinner (Campbell’s Bean with Bacon soup and peanut butter/honey sandwich, large milk) why am I being so specific? My go to meal. Also, unfortunately in my rush to get downstairs to watch I missed a step and my meal ended up painting the walls and then getting into the carpet. Mom was not pleased. Missed it or missed most or basically felt so bad couldn’t enjoy it anyway. Luckily, streaming allows me to watch it now with no regrets!! Hope your experience was better. Bill
Felgercarb!
The Starbuck episode was the "Rogue One" of the Battlestar Galactica franchise.
IIRC both Galactica and 1980 had Sunday time slots which were routinely interrupted for football. Heck, the pilot episode when originally aired was interrupted like 15 minutes before the end by the Camp David Peace Accords signing. Too bad the Galactica crew never found out about the Cylon's one weakness, microwave ovens. And if you recall, the second season of "Buck Rogers", anothe Larson project, had the plotline that was revers of Galactica with the Earth Ship Searcher looking for tribes of humans lost in the post-atomic horror.
That's why I think Galactica and the Searcher might as well have met up for the reunion with Earth. Buck Rogers Earth didn't appear to have a war machine, but it's better than finding Earth in 1980.
ABC network didn’t broadcast any Sunday NFL games in 1979 or 1980.
Robbie Rist played Dr. Zee. He was better known for playing Cousin Oliver in the last season of the Brady Bunch.
The one with Wolf Man Jack was ok.
One good thing about this series was that it was a short series.😂
I give them an A+ for trying. Imagine what it could of been had they had the proper budget.
Thanks Dan your the bestest...
Better writers would've helped. This & CRUSADE : The Babylon Project were just NOT THAT GREAT, although the time travel elements went into Quantum Leap.
My favorite show as a teenager. Lucifer was so cool and loved he was conniving. Dr Smith with his voice....how cool was that! Oops thought this as the original series. Oh well.
Haha yes that was awesome :-)
I love Galactica 1980. It's important to watch it at a time separately from a regular BSG rewatch. It compares well or better than many of the other Earth-bound adventure shows of the era. I bought both Galacrtia 1980 and BSG on Prime Video.
Didn't they just leave Starbuck for dead on that planetoid? The episode did have an Enemy Mine feeling to it with Starbuck and the Cylon.
A couple if interesting points I liked they did well; they introduced a NEW generation of Cylon raider, somewhat larger and updated. And Galactica team created a new ship to combat the Cylons. Sort of saucer-like. Some good story potential had the show continued. Would be worth mentioning Richard's attempt to bring the show back with his home-made pilot he put together. Very slick.
I agree. "The return of Starbuck" was the only saving grace from that sad, second chapter of BSG. As a kid growing up in the late 60 & 70's I was always so excited about ANY new scifi show that came along. Genesis II, The Questor Tapes, Quark, Salvage One, The Time Machine remake in 78' or 79', Space 1999, Logans Run the (TV series), the Saturday morning stuff, etc, etc. Then if it sucked, sure I'd be disappointed, but it was better than nothing, right? Thats how I felt about Galactica 1980. Every episode I watched, I'd have renewed hope it was going to pull out of it's hard nose dive into the ground. With the Starbuck episode, I felt redeemed, but then it was done. I was so pissed. After enduring all that and to finally get a good episode and that was it?!??? Only to be replaced by Buck Rogers?? I enjoyed that shows first season, then in season 2 it just got super ridiculous...
Here's a question for the network.. How was it they couldn't afford BSG, with sets already built, but they had the funds to build the Buck Rogers series?? And that piece of crap lasted 2 seasons! And to add insult to injury, they used the BSG sound effects, etc?!??
Here's a question for the fans. How many of you recorded all of the original Star Trek series, on cassette tape and listened to them day in and day out? lol
I would echo your sentiments almost 100%.
Starbuck Returns was great. And I enjoyed the Halloween "invasion." Mostly because they got Wolfman Jack on as a guest. Also, it strangely oseudo-introduced the human Cylons that were such a key part of the reboot.
I totally forgot about the Wolfman jack. Damn I should have mentioned that :-)
As a kid, I liked this show. It still holds a special place in my heart. The biggest problem other than the budget, was that the network treated all sci-fi as a kids show. In some ways I think this was really 3 shows. First was the time travel show from the pilot. Second was the space scouts / kids show. Third was the Return of Starbuck.
RIP Terry Carter....
Yeah, 95 years young. Wow!
😔😔😔🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I freaked out when the original series ended. I think I watched 2 episodes of 1980. I just remember the Cylon being defeated by a microwave oven.
Those early Amana's were a beast, cook a chicken in three minutes. They did leak some residual microwaves but damn those babies packed a lot of juice.
I always thought that 'Boxie' was Troy's nickname.
I 2nd that.
I named my first cat after Muffit 😺
The fandom didn’t need this after a huge letter writing campaign to bring the epic adventure back again ! Galactica 1980: Adama’s really bad dream, thank the lords for “The Return of Starbuck “
To this day, the Return of Starbuck episode is one of the saddest episodes of any TV show I've ever seen. I think it scarred me as a child.
There is a guy who sat behind me in 7th grade who would, daily, update me on how he was building a colonial viper in his backyard. Of course I didn't believe it. But after weeks and weeks of updates, each more detailed regarding the sourcing of materials and progress, I was halfway hooked/convinced. Once I mentioned dropping by for a visit he finally confessed there wasn't much if anything to see. I thanked him and held no ill will for the ruse as we enjoyed all those conversations so much how such a thing would be accomplished. I hope he's doing well and can picture him working in some sort of creative/engineering field.
LOL, I had a similar friend who would say/do the same thing, except it was R2D2 from Star Wars. Said he even got it to move under its own power using a lawnmower engine. He never ended up building anything, despite claiming otherwise.
why entertain time wasters, everyone in 7th grade should be forgotten about by now,purge all memory banks
the emblems on the collar of the Viper pilots are the US Army Military Intelligence MOS(Army job) Insignia(symbol)
Upside-down.
Casting two pieces of driftwood as the two main leads might have been a problem for Galactica '80.
Good point
Funny how one piece of driftwood was a major tv star (ADAM-12) and the other became a major tv star (Diagnosis Murder).
Fun Fact: Barry was up for the Starbuck role, and ABC preferred him over Dirk. Richard went to the wall for Dirk and he got the part.
Enemy Mine or Hell in the Pacific
Lee Marvin would smile at that remark👍
Enemy Mine great lazy Saturday movie.
Bingo!
HEY DAN MONROE...DO YOU REMEMBER A SHORT-LIVED television show in the late 70's about a space garbage man named "Quark"? It starred Richard Benjamin as the title character and a host of aliens in the same vein as Star Wars cantina scene. A few "droids" were thrown in to complete the ensemble. The funniest part of the show was his spaceship. It totally looked like a garbage truck with the huge hopper on the back. Im not sure the show even made it past an entire first season. I enjoy the channel and never miss an episode. Thanks.😢
I watched Quark.
I watched that when I was a kid too. I think they even did a Mirror Mirror type episode too.
"There are no good plants, there are no bad plants, there are only...plants."
~Ficus
Turns out, there were two actors who played Doctor Zee.
The first one was Robbie Rist, who looked exactly like John Denver, right down to the glasses. (performed only in the pilot.)
After that, the actor James Patrick Stuart played Doctor Zee for the rest of the episodes.
The first guy looked like the milky bar kid
The total alteration of a franchise. You thought it was just Ghostbusters,Star Wars, Dr Who and Star Trek.
However, as a 14 year old i really loved it. Especially the “wolfman jack” scene is stuck inside my memory.😊
It had its moments. The night the cylons landed part one and two and the return of Starbuck are the best.
Quantum Leap actually has its origins in the original BSG story where Apollo jumps into the body of a Terran pilot.
Isnt the white uniform and blaster from the episode "Experiment in Terra"?
There were a few times, that the Starbuck flashback episode was shown as a separate TV movie. For a while, it was called "Starbuck's Great Adventure". A casual viewer might have even missed the fact that it was Galactica related. I didn't mind G-80. As a kid, it was a crumb, the tiniest morsel, that I was still willing to cling on to. It was kinda cool seeing the guy from the K-Tel commercials. (Wolfman Jack ) However, looking back, it was just too Glen A Larson, and it borders on painful. However, the flying motorcycles, no matter how ridiculous and possibly even the cloaking Vipers, will never not be cool. The Viper snow landings were very cool.
Actually, I agree with you Big Guy, the Starbuck episode was the best of that run. Can still see the showdown between the Cylons in my mind... haven't seen it for years. the joys of being a sci-fi kid..
The Halloween/Wolfman Jack episode is pretty great also, but for different reasons 😂
The original BSG was my favorite as well!
Great show, Dan. Two things, I still remember the diner scene where they order coffee and ask what's in it and when told the response was like, "You people drink beans?"
The second thing is in your timeline, don't forget that although _Battlestar Galactica_ ended 29 April 1979 over in Universal Studios Hollywood on 9 June 1979 they premiered the *Battle of Galactica* attraction as part of the Studio Backlot Tour and it was kept open until sometime in 1992. So, the franchise hadn't completely disappeared. BTW, Dan, something right up your alley, one of the original Cylon animatronics from the ride was found in 2014. It was in the basement under _The Simpson's Ride_ that stood where the *Battle of Galactica,* had been. How cool is that? It was later sold at auction in 2020.
The Starbuck episode was great though
It was a high point for this spacewreck.
Just popping into say how much I appreciate you taking a positive view on some of these things you don't like. It would be very easy to slate and trash some of the lesser loved shows that you cover. Class move.
Hate to say it but even with the little they had to work with it still was some of the best days ever that we will never see again!
K.A.R.R. and K.I.T.T. were reverse engineered Cylons.
The Starbuck episode was great.
I enjoyed the cylon shooting the other cylons to protect Starbuck. Was sad the episode ended with Starbuck all alone.
Check my comments out, They had a better ending but ditched it.
I fondly remember that Starbuck episode as well, but didn't recall it was from Galactica 1980. It had a similar plot to the 1985 film Enemy Mine, but apparently the book it was based on came out first.
They did time travel in episode 2 to Nazi Germany.
Apparently it is what the "IM button on the Viper Joystick did (FIRE, TURBO, IM)
"Why do you keep talking about everything in the past tense?" - Major Stockwell
"This is no time to be teaching grammar lessons" - Troy
IM was originally reverse thrusters.
This opened up some old wounds.
Wolfman Jack :) had a great spot in this series.
I watched Galactic 1980 a few years ago. The only good episode is the last one with Starbucks. Watch the last one. There is no build up for it. It was a stand alone episode.
"There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens."
That should have been the ongoing THE END...the quest to find Earth
...as soon as you introduce that Earth had been found, all the magic from the original story was lost
Never occurred to me that could also be the opening to Stargate SG1
Galactica 1980 was simply terrible. What possessed them to make it all about a group of young kids I will never know. It was bad enough that they had to film it in 'present day' America, but it was as if they were going out of their way to make it as bad as possible. Which perhaps in some ways they were if they were pissed at the fans for forcing them to make this abomination.
Galactica was a great memory of my youth. I would have liked to have a Cylon Raider or a Centurion, but at that time, I don't remember having any products from the series in my country. Finally, I bought all the DVD sets of three series, even if BSG 1980 is really not great.
I, like Dan, only watched the Starbuck befriending a Cylon episode. That was great…the rest of the series….don’t recall watching at all.
Battlestar GALACTICA was great (for its time), but GALACTICA 1980 was what happens when studios get involved, cut budgets, rewrites or removes everything the audience loves and fills it with pablum.
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Dan, You do a great job on these vids, I'm about six or seven years older than you, but love many of the same shows and movies you highlight.
the one good show they had was The Return of Starbuck!
Starbuck episode ended with him stranded. Shame he didn't notice the fully operational Cylon Raider ship parked in the background!😅
I know, right? That would have been awesome
Maybe he is looking for Galactica somewhere on cylon raider!
Paul Simon & Art Garfunkel are coming out with a special edition song "The Sound of Cylons"
I still liked it as I was starved for anything space related then. Another episode I really liked was the 2 part "Cylons on Earth" episodes which features Wolfman Jack and Lara Parker from "Dark Shadows" fame. Speaking of, Dan, you should really do an episode on Dark Shadows, the original TV series as it has movies, music & monsters spawn from it.
I have the entirety of Battlestar Galactica on DVD. The movie, the TV series, and Galactica 1980. I absolutely love it. 80 has its flaws, but I still love it. Those motorcycles were just awesome.
Interesting tidbit, it’s been a while, so I can’t remember exactly where in the mix it was, but somewhere, in a shot, where we see the ragtag fleet of ships, the ship from Silent Running is one of the ships you see onscreen as part of the fleet.
Did they let Starbuck smoke his cigar 😅
You rock, Dan ! These are great !
Thank you buddy, enjoy :-)
It is weird to see Kent McCord in something other than Adam-12.
Right? Adam-12 was such a great show. I may have to do a show on that :-)
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Make that one happen, Dan. Please and thank you.