Wonder Woman 1984 is currently playing in the UK, Ireland, Egypt, Greece, Brazil, Hong Kong, Mexico, Singapore and more - and tonight for Friday Dec 18th is just hitting theaters in China, Japan, Spain and more. It is open in 41 countries, which is why I always post my spoiler reviews when a movie opens in big markets, even globally.
sorry grace but I would like to add due to a winter resurgence of cases in Hong Kong theaters have been closed for 2 weeks now I was supposed to watch it yesterday😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@randomguy2402 Same over here in Honduras, enjoying the spoiler video now hehe...Also hadn't been to theater since February so it was awesome. It also broke me Grace, it really did....
Grace [sobbing]: “When that happened I was like-she’s gonna be at the crap outta Max. Boy I sure would. But she didn’t. Cause she’s mature. Good for you Wonder Woman. *I woulda beat him to a pulp.* “ Iconic.
I didn't have a problem with Gal's acting in the beginning. It was just the dialogue that was truly terrible. The whole intro to the scene with Diana and Barbara having lunch was just them telling each other how great and fun they are. Who talks like that???
@Mike Demirdjian damn. That's sad. I mean I guess Diana was really sad and just needed to offload subtly that she's not "always out" partying or whatever. But it had to be more organic than the final outcome turned out to be.
So she made herself weaker by overwriting her wonderwoman powers to become a cheetah? She wish to become like Diana who was immune to electricity but electricuting her in the water takes her out.
The mall scene was way too cheesy and, even though it was played for laughs, it wasn't funny at all. Really, the writing overall was a total, muddled mess.
Wonder Woman flying was the most realistic depiction of flying not the reason why she flies but how they make it look it looks like she’s actually flying not just laying on her stomach in front of a green screen
Grace, “the only black character” wasnt just the homeless person. There was also Max’s assistant and the boss/manager of the museum. Also, i think the movie was BAD. I loved the first one and i’m a HUGE wonder woman fan, but THIS was bad.
I thought the same as Grace when I watched this movie, but you are right the museum boss and the second assistant at the office both had speaking roles. I am not sure why the homeless guy was so jarring though. The other 2 black characters where not as memorable but they did exist.
And the cute little girl who saw her take out the guys in the mall. It’s always nice to see us (black people) getting a heartfelt role that maybe small but would have, in the past, always gone to a cute little blonde girl instead.
Don't forget the black cop who said, "I dont know what to do." In the riot scene. His delivery was horrible. All the extras in the background had horrible acting and direction.
I like how they show her ability to use magic. that helps. BUT THE TIMING ... how they travel from one place to another in a day or less. hard for me to understand. Her changing outfits was weird. if she can use magic then stick with that.
Is nobody going to reference that Lynda Carter later being seen to be Asteria, the original owner of the golden armor, makes the cameo in the mid credit scenes a nod to her being the original live-action Wonder Woman?
I'm exactly the same. In fact, I even want to be spoiled, so I can decide whether something is worth watching or not. Getting a movie/series/book spoiled, never ruined my enjoyment.
This movie touched me very deeply because the love of my life passed away almost two years ago and there is nothing more that I wish for than to see him again.
Grace, the part you don't like about Diana seeing Steve's image, is important because it's the "lie" she's telling herself to accept his resurrection. That's why towards the end of the film Diana returns her wish because it's based on the lie she was telling herself in order to see Steve's image instead of the actual person's image. Remember that she didn't see Steve's image at first until he started quoting thing's Steve has said to her.
@@JohnDalton4388 It would have worked so well if she just tried to dress up the guy as Steve to make it less creepy. Should have just kept the good looking actor.
@@bloodcottoncandy ehhhhhh I don’t think any amount of dressing it up makes It okay for WW to rape a man without consequences. It was a weird choice considering she’s such a great character
@@fallguy4209 No. She saves a girl from dying and the mother asks her name. She says saving her was not a big deal since she's been doing it for a long time and tells her she's called Asteria, then she leaves the mother and daughter.
@@fndrnt During the whole movie are references to her. The games have a golden statue in honor of her, since she Asteria sacrificed herself to fend the men that enslaved the Amazons as they retreated/escaped to Themyscira. Later in the movie Diana tells Steve she searched for Asteria but she only found her armor, so the audience can inferred she died. But the end credits scene reveals she's alive, but it doesn't say if she hasn't found or doesn't want to interact Diana. Her saving the kid in the scene is more like a coindiciende not that she's been actively protecting the innocent.
“I know some of you are going to watch this anyways” You’re dang right I am! Spoiler reviews sometimes make the difference between me cashing in or waiting for my library’s copy😂
It was that way for me when it came to Rise of Skywalker. I did not like The Last Jedi, so I was considering skipping Rise of Skywalker, but after I saw the spoiler reviews I knew I HAD to see it, that it was my kind of movie! Rise of Skywalker is my favourite Star Wars movie 😁.
Completely with you. Never watched spoilers before the movie until The Last Jedi. Now I do it for every movie I’m interested in. Helps going in with some info- not to persuade me but to inform me.
Diana using the lasso to show Steve the truth about the armour tied in with her doing the same with Maxwell at the end - by tying the lasso around his ankle and making him see the truth, because he was touching everyone, everyone saw their truths which is why they all renounced their wishes.. At least that’s how I saw it!
Oh, I don't know about y'all, but the part where WW is talking to the world and inspiring them to renounce their wishes, and we see it slowly happening - I was literally crying. For me, this ending was so perfect both for the movie and the character of WW; much better and more gratifying than if she just killed Max Lord (which is where I thought it was heading with all the "destroy the stone" remarks and knowing that she did that in the comics). I actually enjoyed WW84 more than the first WW movie and look forward to the next one!
i am shocked by the fact that no one, literally NO ONE raised a question about how was Steve so good with driving a 50 years modern car and a jet plane he just got into after merely 2 days of his return? Not only could he drive that car, he could even race it with battle trucks and tanks and even drift it??? Ok, tell me some more jokes.
Modern cars are easier to drive than older ones because of power steering (and 80's cars weren't the computers on wheels we have today). I think the modern aircraft would have flummoxed him though.
I thought Diana should have found the kid and brought him to Lord to be the conduit for the kid to bring his dad around. Much like a Lego Movie moment. I would have cried then. I felt nothing during this movie the whole time, aside from frustration.
Grace, "Why is she a cheetah?" - I understood it was because her new wish was to be an "apex predator" like she said in the trailer. While cheetahs are not be the best pick for "apex predators," Barbara seems to like cheetahs as seen with her shoe compliment so that's their explanation of how she ended up as a cheetah.
Exactly, I was stunned Grace didn't pick that up. Apex Predator, plus leopard print (loving diana's high heels at the beginning, later on then she has some garment in leopard print), plus she wanted to be something unlike anything else, something special. Ergo Cheetah. I guess Karen to be fair to Grace, she has a lot of stuff to watch and note taking to do, can't be expected to pick up on every little detail.
Yeah I remember watching the movie thinking of Grace’s comment in the non spoiler review about it not making sense, but when Barbara followed up her wish with that addition I was like oh there we go!
why would barbara get 2 wishes? it doesn't make sense.. even Maxwell's son didn't get 2 wishes. and Maxwell didn't even like what his son wishes for. mind you that the son is the person he loves the most. this part is just bad writing I feel like.
18:24 It's not just weird Grace is the awful R word. When you realize that Diana just slept with a man without his consent then smiles and flirts with him at the end without him knowing they had slept together, that was cringy, they don't even question the morality of it in the movie. How would you feel if this was Superman sleeping with a woman who was possessed by the soul of Lois Lane I bet there would be far more outrage.
Don't feel alone. It happens to me as well. I cried with the "good bye to Steve" scene, specially when she was running away from the pain. That was so emotional. And also when Pedro Pascal reunite with his son. And to be more honest, I cried again when I saw you crying explaining the scene. Thank you for the great job you do with your channel and for sharing your emotions with us. Happy holidays Grace!
There was no relationship with Pedro and his son at all the whole movie and then we were expected to feel moved by them running toward each other in the end?
@Brian Cairns She was thinking of a Cheetah a the moment of the wish because she has a tiger at the museum where she works. They only showed for a brief moment.
By the end of this movie you could hear sobs coming from all over the theater. It happened during the Steve goodbye scene and when Max Lord is looking for his son. I got teary eyed myself.
This movie is such an amateur outing for the whole crew. It’s a case of people being so starved for something that people will accept anything. It’s Superman 3 bad.
Wow. I was thinking the exact same thing! The "comedic slapstick" intro of Superman 3 is so BAD😆😆😆 And the mall scene and the few scenes of Diana saving people right before it reminded me of exactly that.
After Barbara said she wanted to be the Apex predator, Maxwell said "Go on". I assume she was more specific in what she wanted to become. Still, could've been done better, I agree
Yeah, and in her origin backstory, she got her power from an ancient, powerful Cheetah goddess at an old tribe site in a jungle, they could have shoehorned that in. Something along the line of Barbara being the archaeologist she is, she knows about the mysterious lore of that Cheetah Goddess, and has her mention that Cheetah Goddess in a nerdy way in several scenes before she made the wish to be like Diana, and then when Maxwell grants her another wish, she should say sth specific like: "I wish to be that powerful Cheetah Goddess that I know about". That would make it much clearer than "I want to be an apex predator"
Im a guy...an indian guy who was raised to never show sad emotions...literally told never to cry(also that we were girls if we did)...it was difficult to get out of such indoctrination...but grace thank you so much for helping me feel the same emotions for beauty...i was a sceptic of you but gradually i have realised you are 1 of the most passionate relatable film buff i have ever had the good fortune of coming across...i love your news and reviews...wish you all the best and all the success
I honestly hated everything about this movie. I was so dumbfounded that the director of the first one directed this one too. What in the hell is going on?
I have no idea what happened here. After the first two scenes it was like an overdrawn movie about nothing until it managed to squirm out something at the very end.
It reminded me a lot of Man of Steel. You had this perfectly cast actor that completely embodied the character... and then you didn't give them the movie to show it.
I’m hoping this’ll be how Iron Man 2 was to the first Iron Man movie. My favorite things about this movie were Pedro Pascal and Gal Gadot’s performances. Wonder Woman is still a great superhero and I hope they redeem themselves with the next movie!
I was thinking this too haha, I was like Grace did you not see the vital scene where she complimented Diana's amazing Cheetah print kicks haha... Also she says in the second wish that she wanted to be an apex predator (while also wishing for a pair of those shoes and voila 😋)
yes but you can see a pair of shoes and not want to be them 😂😂 it seemed quite outlandish to me, like she was really powered up anyway, why become a monster?
That goodbye scene where she runs off crying Absolutely amazing acting That being said this movie was very poorly executed 5/10 Also Pedro Pascal acting was damn good
Batman V Superman comes after this yet she can fly, has crazy armour, and is fighting bad guys around the world and somehow not being spotted. She doesn't need the WW outfit to stop some jewellery thieves. Movie is a D+ and that's for Pedro
Wonder Woman is at half strength in the first couple movies....yet beats up Ares who is a God, holds her own against Steppenwolf, Superman and Doomsday. In this movie she gets to fly, has her invisible plane and powered up to Superman type level, yet struggles with human villains? And she even bleeds a few times....luckily she speed heals later on to salvage that mess of bad writing. This movie really tanked....
When i heard the BvS score at the end when Diana gives the speech i almost broke down into tears , those batfleck Martha flashbacks are doing wonders !
After Barbara told Max what she wanted in the helicopter, he says “I like the way you think. Go on...” which made me think that’s how the decision to become a cheetah happens and we just don’t see it.
Honestly wasn't so emotional over Steve leaving again. I was beyond proud of him for making her move on and not being a selfish guy. That showed how amazing he is and Chris pine nailed it. It was great to see Diana grow from that moment. The scene that made me emotional was Maxwell and his son. Seeing his hard life and how he realized his sons love was more than enough was powerful (cliche) and so rewarding. How can you not like Pedro Pascal!? Makes me even more hype to see him back as the Mandalorian and watch him get his flowers as the talented actor that he is. This film was a good one but I still felt like something was missing. But I'm glad that these actors has this on their resume. Awesome cinematography but I do hope Jenkins gets help for her Star Wars outing for the action. The physical stakes in this movie felt empty. Plus they should have just scrapped the Cheeta subplot. It really lead nowhere.
Is there another credit scene after that? Just saw the movie today, but asking bcs we couldn’t stay til the end bcs of safety theatre policies due to COVID, every screen has be evacuated in a certain order before all the credits roll
I have never cried during a movie, but when I watched WW1984 I did. The emotional journey this movie takes you on is amazing. You will find yourself looking within
it was awesome for me. i got up from my seat a bit. it was basically referencing a possible wish from young bruce for his parents to come back. plus beautiful lie is what the wishes were in this film. brilliant!
From what you shared, I can't get over how poorly Steve's return was handled. Imagine the outrage if the roles were switched and all of that happened to a woman's body, especially someone sleeping with said body without the original 'conscious/soul' knowing... and if the film wasn't directed by a woman.
I have to say when Cheetah first emerged at the top of that building and gave that very slight smirk I loved it, Such a shame that Chertah overall got shortchanged
Just because the wish didn't work out, doesn't mean Barbara ever stopped trying to find a way to transform herself. We'll probably see her again in the future.
But in the movie it was stated that the consequence is losing that which is most precious to you, it didn't say anything about the consequence being commensurate to the wish you asked for.
Notice how it’s a “could be better” category and not a “did not like” or “hated” category👀. I’m so excited for this film grace thank you for your review!🤍
I didn’t realise Gal had so many haters... she’s perfect for the role! And I actually think the awkwardness works. The character would be cringy if she was quick witted
I have to disagree Grace, just watched the movie and she was great in the action scenes, but I dont think she has the acting chops for the emotional moments it comes off as corny and awkward, especially compared to the other actors in the room
Completely disagree, she can cut it as an actress but the action sequences were genuinely terrible but I actually don’t blame Gal but rather the director. The direction of the action sequences were horrible.
Just to point out something I noticed. The guy who wishes for coffee immediately burns himself on his drink. I thought that was a really clever moment and insane attention to detail in the script!
Don’t know if you’ve read already, but the payoff for Asteria happens in the post-credits, with the casting of Asteria. You guessed it already in the non-spoiler review.
Movie was dumb, what was the point of the intro ? It didn't lead to so.e foreshadowing about a lesson she would have to use later on. It was just a pilot for an Amazon show. We saw her grow up already y did they think we gave a shit about lil wonder woman again. ?
..it had its moments, but gal is a stiff as usual,, cheetah was kind cool.. too bad the ending gets preachy and political as expected.. it fails as a thriller and barely entertaining
Worst movie of the year. Looks cheap, horrible pace, bad writing, and bad CG. I knew Grace would love it... Anything virtue signaling or women made gets an automatic pass, justification, and even praise from Grace.
"They just borrowed his body and Diana had sex with him without him knowing, I thought that that was kind of weird." 18:24 That's because it's rape and the double standards are unbelievable. As we all know, this would've been cancelled had it been a gender-reversed situation. Not to mention had the guy not been handsome, which is literally what his credits got to be on IMDb. Sick. That said, this was a very in-depth review just lovely as always. Keep up the nice and hard work, Grace, a delight.
I watched the movie, some things are just plain silly even in the realms of disbelief suspension. But the emotional beats really hit hard, The Steve one hit hard but the one that hit hardest for me was the Maxwell one at the end. I teared up at one point. It's nice to know it had the same effect in Grace too.
@@marcsteven5532Yes, but it has to have at least some sense of realism, otherwise it will take the viewer out of the movie. That’s exactly what happened to me 😂 I checked out about twenty five percent through because it was just so silly and corny
I loved Cheetah. She was amazing. And it makes complete sense that the character who always felt invisible and was insecure, her to care about being attractive. And she turned into a cheetah because she wished to Max to become something like no one else, an apex predator.
That’s it. Not sure how Grace overlooked this. When I saw the scene, it made perfect sense to me why Barbara became a cheetah. A chetah is in fact an Apex predator. Under the circumstances, she could’ve became any of the ThunderCats.
@@Twistedwolf-ru2qk no she didn't. her first wish was basically to not be a "loser" or "insecure" anymore and becomes the confident person like diana. if she renounced her first wish to be a cheetah, she would be a very insecure and not confident cheetah lol. and the real apex predator cheetah doesn't have the same power as a daughter of a God lol. how can a mere cheetah rip away the amazonian armor strongest in the world? bc she still has the wonder woman power that she wishes for in the beginning. so no. she never renounced it.
it was awful! wtf, where was WW? No sword, no shield, her bf constantly around. No actual climax with the superhero beating the shit out of the villain (no that fight w/Cheetah was stupid). This movie was a cheesy, romance novel with cheap stunts. I can't believe they made Diana into a cheesy little romance character instead of the badass warrior she is. 🤷🏼♀️
Wonder Woman 1984 is currently playing in the UK, Ireland, Egypt, Greece, Brazil, Hong Kong, Mexico, Singapore and more - and tonight for Friday Dec 18th is just hitting theaters in China, Japan, Spain and more. It is open in 41 countries, which is why I always post my spoiler reviews when a movie opens in big markets, even globally.
Watched it today in Brasil, haven’t been in a theater in such a long time, loved the movie, when I got home I immediately opened your video
sorry grace but I would like to add due to a winter resurgence of cases in Hong Kong theaters have been closed for 2 weeks now
I was supposed to watch it yesterday😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Hey grace will you continue doing the Disney investor day like on the animation
Watched it yesterday, in Portugal. Enjoyed it.
@@randomguy2402 Same over here in Honduras, enjoying the spoiler video now hehe...Also hadn't been to theater since February so it was awesome. It also broke me Grace, it really did....
The message of the opening scene was "you can't win by cheating", therefore Barbara could never win because she's a cheetah.
I half expected Diana to say to her "Don't you know that Cheetahs never prosper?"
Omg this is amazing
This comment is funnier than the entire movie.
You win the Internet?
Grace [sobbing]: “When that happened I was like-she’s gonna be at the crap outta Max. Boy I sure would. But she didn’t. Cause she’s mature. Good for you Wonder Woman. *I woulda beat him to a pulp.* “
Iconic.
Everyone at the end of 2020: I renounced my wish 🤧
Hahaha lol
I don’t think it worked.
Lol
I didn't have a problem with Gal's acting in the beginning. It was just the dialogue that was truly terrible. The whole intro to the scene with Diana and Barbara having lunch was just them telling each other how great and fun they are. Who talks like that???
You're absolutely right. I mean I get she's lonely and sad but the words weren't writ well to portray that.
Agree. When I watched it I was thinking about how weird the topics were for people who just met.
@Mike Demirdjian damn. That's sad. I mean I guess Diana was really sad and just needed to offload subtly that she's not "always out" partying or whatever. But it had to be more organic than the final outcome turned out to be.
Sorority girls talk like that.
It was painfully awkward. I was like please stop talking.
I have sooo many questions: When Max Lord rescinded his wish, did the stone become whole again? His wish was to "become the stone".
One can assume so
It's probably on that table in front of the window in his office.
That's how we get him back in the future movie. Right now as the credits roll he's running back to his office to pick up the stone lol
I would have liked that he became a litteral stone but that's not how it works lol
Grace, the guy that wished for coffee, got burned after taking a sip. That was his punishment
Nice catch.
And it's cool because the punishment fit the crime I suppose.
Naw his kids exploded off camera.
I was thinking the same when I thought about it for a little bit
I chuckled hearing that after I seen the movie my 2nd time lol
The goodbye to Steve was the best piece of acting I’ve seen from Gal Gadot. Totally brought me into the scene and so emotional.
That I do hugely agree upon. While I didn't cry, it brought me so much feels from it
Agreed
I thought she acted very well in the first movie especially they argument scene with Steve and also I loved her in criminal
@Jahlahn Taylor Gal is great in both
Barbra said, "I want to be an apex predator" that's why she turned into a cheetah.
Would be more accurate as a gorilla or lion or tiger
Humans are already apex predators
So she made herself weaker by overwriting her wonderwoman powers to become a cheetah? She wish to become like Diana who was immune to electricity but electricuting her in the water takes her out.
@Basir Turabi 😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😁😁😁
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She wasn't flying. She was falling with style
My 10 year old nephew said that during the flying scene and I died 😂
The mall scene was way too cheesy and, even though it was played for laughs, it wasn't funny at all. Really, the writing overall was a total, muddled mess.
I thought it was great 70s good feel camp that feels genuine. It's just after that point the film's pulse died out.
It was too much like the classic tv show. That’s not the best thing to be inspired by. Better to let the comics be the inspiration
There was definitely some muddledness going on.
That really took me out of the movie right after the Themyscira scene. I never really got back into it.
@@GamingandFrightened I think they went for the 80s look to just make it fun to in 2020 rather than getting dark
The guy who wished for coffee was immediately burned by the coffee. That was his price.
11:51 “Good for you Wonder Woman. I would’ve beat him to a pulp.” -Grace
You’re awesome!
The way how Diana said “I love you” to Steve before she lets go of him, made me cry. She delivered it with so much emotion:
also her wounds healing because she renounced her wish.. that scene was beautifully sad
Her saying I'll never love again was pretty dumb to me
@@itsboyaknow nah it’s not dumb, it’s called emotions. Of course she will say that after losing the man she loves for the second time. She was hurt.
@@nickxsonsapanza5460 I said "to me" so yes it was.
@@itsboyaknow okay.
-WONDERWOMEN 1984
-no songs from 1980s
As someone who cries over everything, and I mean everything. The Steve goodbye was incredibly cheesy. It feels weird to see Grace cry so much over it.
Hey, if it affected her, it affected her.
Everyone relate to things differently, if you lost a person you love before, that scene would hit u hard
Ditto.. I am normally crying like a baby .. by this point in the movie I could not care less.
I just think there's nothing special about Trevor...
Awe Grace don't be ashamed of crying I love when people show their emotional side because it shows their humanity 💗 love your content
I’m gay myself ... and no ... did not cried at all !!!
@Vilfredo Pareto it’s her opinion man, let her live lol
we love grace ❤️
Wonder Woman flying was the most realistic depiction of flying not the reason why she flies but how they make it look it looks like she’s actually flying not just laying on her stomach in front of a green screen
Is there any high budget movie has that bad of a cgi anymore? I dont think so.
@@DovahkriidRoy haha true but even now it feels very cgi and not real but idk if you’ve seen it but once you do you’ll realize what I mean.
In her case there´s no need to over explain or show her fly in a specific way because she´s a demigoddess.
Yeah I thought it looked amazing
And Zimmer's score just elevated that scene. IMO.
I respect the excitement about the movie and the characters, but I do feel that there are way too many excuses being made for the script.
Seriously.. I can’t believe how non sensical everything was. Patty did so well with the first film what happened here!?
I think people are making excuses for it because they didn’t have to leave the house to see it. Not a good excuse .
The movie was disappointing :(
Just say it. The movie sucked. And I was a die-hard fan of the first WW who really wanted to like this.
@@Moskarth The difference was, Patty wrote the script this time. Allan Heinberg wrote the first Wonder Woman and Patty just directed.
Don’t you kinda feel like you shouldn’t have to say “I’ll allow it” so much in regards to a movie
Yep lol
That's what you say about a guilty pleasure, but she truly believes the movie is of high quality.
Grace, “the only black character” wasnt just the homeless person. There was also Max’s assistant and the boss/manager of the museum.
Also, i think the movie was BAD. I loved the first one and i’m a HUGE wonder woman fan, but THIS was bad.
I thought the same as Grace when I watched this movie, but you are right the museum boss and the second assistant at the office both had speaking roles. I am not sure why the homeless guy was so jarring though. The other 2 black characters where not as memorable but they did exist.
And the cute little girl who saw her take out the guys in the mall. It’s always nice to see us (black people) getting a heartfelt role that maybe small but would have, in the past, always gone to a cute little blonde girl instead.
Don't forget the black guy in the gym! Lol waw these characters were really an afterthought
Don't forget the black cop who said, "I dont know what to do." In the riot scene. His delivery was horrible. All the extras in the background had horrible acting and direction.
The ending was subpar. It did not live to the first two acts. They had two great villains, did close to nothing with them.
I like how they show her ability to use magic. that helps. BUT THE TIMING ... how they travel from one place to another in a day or less. hard for me to understand. Her changing outfits was weird. if she can use magic then stick with that.
Magic wielding Diana was extremely off for me and completely uncalled for.
Fast travel is great
Did u see the post credit scene? The post credit scene is the reason we don’t see the big flashback on the armor’s history
Grace would have received a screener from WB and most of the time they don't have the end and mid credit scenes to avoid spoilers
I saw it but I didn’t see the link to the armour?
@@twelve98 the armor belongs to the character
@@twelve98 I'd like to know how Diana got the armour on.... She was flying to Max without it then arrived fully suited up
Is nobody going to reference that Lynda Carter later being seen to be Asteria, the original owner of the golden armor, makes the cameo in the mid credit scenes a nod to her being the original live-action Wonder Woman?
I really liked that. Very touching gesture. Plus she could turn up later in other films.
I think it was the one spoiler she didn't want on the video. It leaked but she didn't talk about.
@Brian Cairns even though anyone who has ever seen Lynda from the neck up instantly recognized her eyes.
The credits scene wasn’t included in the advance showing which Grace saw.
Asteria, the greatest warrior, faked her death and abandoned her people... 😂😂😂
Every time I see a new movie now, afterwards I say “now I can FINALLY watch Grace’s spoiler review!” 😂
Me too lol
I’m someone who doesn’t care about spoilers at all.
what do you feel about spoiled Milk might I ask?
I mean the spoilers don’t matter they’ve been out for months
Yeah doesn't bother me I'll still watch the movie anyways
I'm exactly the same. In fact, I even want to be spoiled, so I can decide whether something is worth watching or not. Getting a movie/series/book spoiled, never ruined my enjoyment.
agreed.
+ i dnt mind spoiled milk as well @ricardo gallardo
Just finished watching the movie.. Have to say. It was very average, the first movie was waay better.. It is a gorgeous film though
Interesting. I thought the first film was average, but WW84 was waaay better.
@@consonaadversapars Wellll it wasn't lmao. But it's ok to like bad movies!
@@thelastboyscout6100 Why are you acting smug, like you are some arbiter of quality. Man, get past this phase, it's pitiful.
@@consonaadversapars Yeah I thought so to. Thought the 1st film was going to be much better. Preferred this.
@@thelastboyscout6100
Oof, someone needs the balls cut. I bet you touch yourself over Cuties.
This movie touched me very deeply because the love of my life passed away almost two years ago and there is nothing more that I wish for than to see him again.
I'm glad you got something out if this film. Have a nice day.
Grace, the part you don't like about Diana seeing Steve's image, is important because it's the "lie" she's telling herself to accept his resurrection. That's why towards the end of the film Diana returns her wish because it's based on the lie she was telling herself in order to see Steve's image instead of the actual person's image. Remember that she didn't see Steve's image at first until he started quoting thing's Steve has said to her.
And then she took this guy home and raped him.
@@JohnDalton4388 It would have worked so well if she just tried to dress up the guy as Steve to make it less creepy. Should have just kept the good looking actor.
@@bloodcottoncandy ehhhhhh I don’t think any amount of dressing it up makes
It okay for WW to rape a man without consequences. It was a weird choice considering she’s such a great character
@@larryversion3300 I know but it would have been so fucked up. Then She sleeps with him and realises she RAPED him? Ugh such lost potential in drama.
@@JohnDalton4388 yeah but he was hot.
I’m shamelessly someone who doesn’t care about spoilers at all 😅
No one cares. The script leaked more than one year ago. You can check the date the post was made on reddit
I personally don’t like spoilers, at least not big ones, but hey, If you like it, watch the whole video 😂
Same. I purposefully look for them
Is it weird that I have no interest in watching this movie but I wanna know what Grace thought about it?
Same.
Grace, in the “Could Be Better” section you seemed to be wishing like the characters in the film.
LMAO DONT COME FOR MY BABY GRACE😭😭😭
it was worth it for Lynda Carters eyes.
Spoiler: In the end credit scene the Amazon warrior with the gold armor is revealed to be Lynda Carter.
Omg is she wearing it.
@@fallguy4209 No. She saves a girl from dying and the mother asks her name. She says saving her was not a big deal since she's been doing it for a long time and tells her she's called Asteria, then she leaves the mother and daughter.
@@maevaris1085 Did She say or any information that Asteria is an Amazonian like Diana? Thx btw.
@@fndrnt During the whole movie are references to her. The games have a golden statue in honor of her, since she Asteria sacrificed herself to fend the men that enslaved the Amazons as they retreated/escaped to Themyscira. Later in the movie Diana tells Steve she searched for Asteria but she only found her armor, so the audience can inferred she died. But the end credits scene reveals she's alive, but it doesn't say if she hasn't found or doesn't want to interact Diana.
Her saving the kid in the scene is more like a coindiciende not that she's been actively protecting the innocent.
@@fndrntTLDR, She is an Amazon but more like a legend to Diana since she never knew her as she never was in Themyscira.
Grace crying externally was me internally at that scene. When your love life has been difficult, scenes like that cut like a knife.
Grace crying is so precious 🥺
“I know some of you are going to watch this anyways”
You’re dang right I am! Spoiler reviews sometimes make the difference between me cashing in or waiting for my library’s copy😂
Bingo
It was that way for me when it came to Rise of Skywalker. I did not like The Last Jedi, so I was considering skipping Rise of Skywalker, but after I saw the spoiler reviews I knew I HAD to see it, that it was my kind of movie! Rise of Skywalker is my favourite Star Wars movie 😁.
Completely with you. Never watched spoilers before the movie until The Last Jedi. Now I do it for every movie I’m interested in. Helps going in with some info- not to persuade me but to inform me.
Diana using the lasso to show Steve the truth about the armour tied in with her doing the same with Maxwell at the end - by tying the lasso around his ankle and making him see the truth, because he was touching everyone, everyone saw their truths which is why they all renounced their wishes.. At least that’s how I saw it!
I don't want spoilers. I'm just here for Grace's popped collar.
Oh, I don't know about y'all, but the part where WW is talking to the world and inspiring them to renounce their wishes, and we see it slowly happening - I was literally crying. For me, this ending was so perfect both for the movie and the character of WW; much better and more gratifying than if she just killed Max Lord (which is where I thought it was heading with all the "destroy the stone" remarks and knowing that she did that in the comics). I actually enjoyed WW84 more than the first WW movie and look forward to the next one!
i am shocked by the fact that no one, literally NO ONE raised a question about how was Steve so good with driving a 50 years modern car and a jet plane he just got into after merely 2 days of his return? Not only could he drive that car, he could even race it with battle trucks and tanks and even drift it??? Ok, tell me some more jokes.
Modern cars are easier to drive than older ones because of power steering (and 80's cars weren't the computers on wheels we have today). I think the modern aircraft would have flummoxed him though.
The same way Rey became the top Jedi with no training😒
@@bogeyman7436 Rey got Jedi powers and Star Wars instant power, Steve got uuuuh
"i would have beat him to a pulp" 😂😂😂gold
I think the reason Lord ultimately renounces his wish, is because his son wished that his father would have a moment of greatness.
oooh, well said.
Truth!
No, his kid wished to have his father’s greatness
I thought Diana should have found the kid and brought him to Lord to be the conduit for the kid to bring his dad around. Much like a Lego Movie moment. I would have cried then. I felt nothing during this movie the whole time, aside from frustration.
@@artboymoy Ya know, I think that's a good idea.
Grace,
"Why is she a cheetah?" - I understood it was because her new wish was to be an "apex predator" like she said in the trailer. While cheetahs are not be the best pick for "apex predators," Barbara seems to like cheetahs as seen with her shoe compliment so that's their explanation of how she ended up as a cheetah.
Exactly, I was stunned Grace didn't pick that up. Apex Predator, plus leopard print (loving diana's high heels at the beginning, later on then she has some garment in leopard print), plus she wanted to be something unlike anything else, something special. Ergo Cheetah.
I guess Karen to be fair to Grace, she has a lot of stuff to watch and note taking to do, can't be expected to pick up on every little detail.
Don't be shocked. Grace seems to miss details in movies all the time, which is why her reviews can be so off kilter.
Yeah I remember watching the movie thinking of Grace’s comment in the non spoiler review about it not making sense, but when Barbara followed up her wish with that addition I was like oh there we go!
That would mean Barbara got two wishes then.
why would barbara get 2 wishes? it doesn't make sense..
even Maxwell's son didn't get 2 wishes. and Maxwell didn't even like what his son wishes for. mind you that the son is the person he loves the most.
this part is just bad writing I feel like.
18:24 It's not just weird Grace is the awful R word. When you realize that Diana just slept with a man without his consent then smiles and flirts with him at the end without him knowing they had slept together, that was cringy, they don't even question the morality of it in the movie. How would you feel if this was Superman sleeping with a woman who was possessed by the soul of Lois Lane I bet there would be far more outrage.
I agree with you, but was is the R word? Is it a rape?
@@alikhanperiodt6483 my question, exactly. This person is calling Grace the R word. What is an awful R word that you can call a woman?
I wonder if Grace has lost a loved one that all these scenes hit her hard... I got teared up while she was talking about Steve disappearing
No, she just appreciated the movie
Absolutely loved the film! The message about greed was so relevant.
Seeing you cry makes me so damn emotional and makes me wanna see this film more so now then ever!😢❤
Great review as always Grace.x
I haven't even watched the movie and I stared crying and I can't wait to watch it
I just finished seeing the film and came here to see this and seeing her cry is making me cry again 😭
Don't feel alone. It happens to me as well. I cried with the "good bye to Steve" scene, specially when she was running away from the pain. That was so emotional. And also when Pedro Pascal reunite with his son. And to be more honest, I cried again when I saw you crying explaining the scene. Thank you for the great job you do with your channel and for sharing your emotions with us. Happy holidays Grace!
Happy Holidays to you too!
There was no relationship with Pedro and his son at all the whole movie and then we were expected to feel moved by them running toward each other in the end?
She wished to become the Apex predator while in the plane with Maxwell. That’s how she became cheetah.
only 1 wish per person... except cheetah because.... story needs it
@Brian Cairns She was thinking of a Cheetah a the moment of the wish because she has a tiger at the museum where she works. They only showed for a brief moment.
Grace starts crying at 11:15.
NUFF SAID
By the end of this movie you could hear sobs coming from all over the theater. It happened during the Steve goodbye scene and when Max Lord is looking for his son. I got teary eyed myself.
Can't believe she actually flew and she HAS an invisible jet. Thank you Patty!
Yes!!!! Btw she flying was BEAUTIFUL 😍
Isn't it she just touches whatever plane she's in, then it turns invisible?
Well she has one somewhere. No way she’s going to be able to find that thing.
Grace in the first movie, Aries uses the lasso to show Dianna his ideal world.
Ohhh right. This makes sense. I thought it was Ares just using his magic on her to show.
This movie is such an amateur outing for the whole crew. It’s a case of people being so starved for something that people will accept anything. It’s Superman 3 bad.
Superman 3 is awesome
Wow. I was thinking the exact same thing! The "comedic slapstick" intro of Superman 3 is so BAD😆😆😆 And the mall scene and the few scenes of Diana saving people right before it reminded me of exactly that.
After Barbara said she wanted to be the Apex predator, Maxwell said "Go on". I assume she was more specific in what she wanted to become. Still, could've been done better, I agree
Yeah, and in her origin backstory, she got her power from an ancient, powerful Cheetah goddess at an old tribe site in a jungle, they could have shoehorned that in. Something along the line of Barbara being the archaeologist she is, she knows about the mysterious lore of that Cheetah Goddess, and has her mention that Cheetah Goddess in a nerdy way in several scenes before she made the wish to be like Diana, and then when Maxwell grants her another wish, she should say sth specific like: "I wish to be that powerful Cheetah Goddess that I know about". That would make it much clearer than "I want to be an apex predator"
Im a guy...an indian guy who was raised to never show sad emotions...literally told never to cry(also that we were girls if we did)...it was difficult to get out of such indoctrination...but grace thank you so much for helping me feel the same emotions for beauty...i was a sceptic of you but gradually i have realised you are 1 of the most passionate relatable film buff i have ever had the good fortune of coming across...i love your news and reviews...wish you all the best and all the success
Yep been there before
her cry makes me cry
I honestly hated everything about this movie. I was so dumbfounded that the director of the first one directed this one too. What in the hell is going on?
it was horrible. writers are different from the first one. This was a lame romance novel with cheap stunts.
I have no idea what happened here. After the first two scenes it was like an overdrawn movie about nothing until it managed to squirm out something at the very end.
Patty Jenkins fired the writers from the first film and brought her own people in …
It reminded me a lot of Man of Steel. You had this perfectly cast actor that completely embodied the character... and then you didn't give them the movie to show it.
I’m hoping this’ll be how Iron Man 2 was to the first Iron Man movie. My favorite things about this movie were Pedro Pascal and Gal Gadot’s performances. Wonder Woman is still a great superhero and I hope they redeem themselves with the next movie!
Grace, I know why she became a cheetah. Remember the scene about the 'shoes'. Yup, animal print she thought Oh yeah I wanna be Diana's shoes!!!! lol
I was thinking this too haha, I was like Grace did you not see the vital scene where she complimented Diana's amazing Cheetah print kicks haha... Also she says in the second wish that she wanted to be an apex predator (while also wishing for a pair of those shoes and voila 😋)
yes but you can see a pair of shoes and not want to be them 😂😂 it seemed quite outlandish to me, like she was really powered up anyway, why become a monster?
@@anakoz But cheetahs are objectively not apex predators... Tier Zoo ranked them in F Tier, they are actually the worst cat.
Oh! Seeing the person you envy wear high heels with leopard skin on them makes you want to become a cheetah?
That makes sense (no)
why would she get 2 wishes? the movie made it clear you can only have one..
we heard her wish: to be a woman like diana. not a furry...
This movie was brutal aside one scene where they actually let Gal act.
Don't forget the rape scene lol..
Exactly. There’s no room for her to act except in the goodbye scene. And she is so good in that.
@@shrimponthebarbies3411 Actors and actresses are only as good as the script that they're given I suppose.
That goodbye scene where she runs off crying
Absolutely amazing acting
That being said this movie was very poorly executed
5/10
Also Pedro Pascal acting was damn good
Agreed
@Nella J Wonder Woman 3 is confirmed plus if I wrote Wonder Woman 3 I would create mind blowingness that would wet your pants
@@Trevleo1 okay then
Dewit
I cried when she let go of Steve. “I will never love again...” - I will never forget this line.
Not Grace crying 😭😭😭 I'm gonna get emotionally wrecked during Christmas. I'm not ready.
What minute? Please
@@jeancarlosyea 11:10
Batman V Superman comes after this yet she can fly, has crazy armour, and is fighting bad guys around the world and somehow not being spotted. She doesn't need the WW outfit to stop some jewellery thieves. Movie is a D+ and that's for Pedro
Wonder Woman is at half strength in the first couple movies....yet beats up Ares who is a God, holds her own against Steppenwolf, Superman and Doomsday. In this movie she gets to fly, has her invisible plane and powered up to Superman type level, yet struggles with human villains? And she even bleeds a few times....luckily she speed heals later on to salvage that mess of bad writing. This movie really tanked....
When i heard the BvS score at the end when Diana gives the speech i almost broke down into tears , those batfleck Martha flashbacks are doing wonders !
After Barbara told Max what she wanted in the helicopter, he says “I like the way you think. Go on...” which made me think that’s how the decision to become a cheetah happens and we just don’t see it.
Also she asked to be an apex predator so I though that was pretty obvious that was the cue for her tuning into cheetah
Honestly wasn't so emotional over Steve leaving again. I was beyond proud of him for making her move on and not being a selfish guy. That showed how amazing he is and Chris pine nailed it. It was great to see Diana grow from that moment. The scene that made me emotional was Maxwell and his son. Seeing his hard life and how he realized his sons love was more than enough was powerful (cliche) and so rewarding. How can you not like Pedro Pascal!? Makes me even more hype to see him back as the Mandalorian and watch him get his flowers as the talented actor that he is. This film was a good one but I still felt like something was missing. But I'm glad that these actors has this on their resume. Awesome cinematography but I do hope Jenkins gets help for her Star Wars outing for the action. The physical stakes in this movie felt empty. Plus they should have just scrapped the Cheeta subplot. It really lead nowhere.
Excellent comment. Most underrated in the entire section so far 🤩
The mid-credits scene is EVERYTHING!
What is it
That scene was Glorious ❤️😭!!
I cried so much!
Is there another credit scene after that? Just saw the movie today, but asking bcs we couldn’t stay til the end bcs of safety theatre policies due to COVID, every screen has be evacuated in a certain order before all the credits roll
@@yair.salgado No, that's the only one. Was lucky enough to stay til the end. Couldn't walk away from Hans Zimmer's amazing score ❤️🇿🇦!!
I have never cried during a movie, but when I watched WW1984 I did. The emotional journey this movie takes you on is amazing. You will find yourself looking within
Damn man haha
Hans Zimmer reusing Beautiful Lie from BvS during the climax really made it for me. So moving.
I loved that moment!
The moment that beat hit...
I went crazy😭😭😭😭
I thought it was quite lazy.
it was awesome for me. i got up from my seat a bit. it was basically referencing a possible wish from young bruce for his parents to come back. plus beautiful lie is what the wishes were in this film. brilliant!
Where was it in the movie
Grace is so bias with DC and wonder women, that I’m begging to think she’s getting payed by Warner Bros. to give them good reviews on their movies.
It seems like she has Zach Snyder on her show every few months too
So what about all the bland MCU movies she gave positive reviews to then?
@@chrisclarke4665 such as?
@@ariyansingh4914 Captain Marvel 😝
It was so hard the first time when Steve sacrificed himself....*CRIES*
Grace, the Amazon in the golden armor is Linda Carter that’s the end credits scene
OMFG
From what you shared, I can't get over how poorly Steve's return was handled. Imagine the outrage if the roles were switched and all of that happened to a woman's body, especially someone sleeping with said body without the original 'conscious/soul' knowing... and if the film wasn't directed by a woman.
Yeah, I didn't even realise the potential of that while watching it. I just thought it felt kinda weird that it wasn't actually him
did they sleep together tho? or just played hide and seek naked? still a mystery lmao.
Just watched it last night! I didnt cry at the Steve parting but I sure did cry when I saw Grace crying about it in this video.
I Renounce watching this movie.
I Wish to get my 2hr 30min back.
I want 8 hours back because that’s what it felt like
I have to say when Cheetah first emerged at the top of that building and gave that very slight smirk I loved it, Such a shame that Chertah overall got shortchanged
Maybe she will make a better comeback in the 3rd movie
Just because the wish didn't work out, doesn't mean Barbara ever stopped trying to find a way to transform herself. We'll probably see her again in the future.
@@sarcasmxkate i agree her and probably circe the witch
I just realize when they guy wish for coffee at the beginning of the movie it burns his tongue, which would be the consequence for his wish
nope
Baha I guess, it is a pretty small wish so i guess it would have had a small consequence
But in the movie it was stated that the consequence is losing that which is most precious to you, it didn't say anything about the consequence being commensurate to the wish you asked for.
Notice how it’s a “could be better” category and not a “did not like” or “hated” category👀. I’m so excited for this film grace thank you for your review!🤍
They definitely nailed the emotional parts to target people like you Grace, now I wish they only had some action parts so the target people like me.
Ain't that kinda movie 🤷♂️ watch the 1st ons
11:42
Thanks for sharing your raw emotions with us Grace.
Your bravery is appreciated.
I didn’t realise Gal had so many haters... she’s perfect for the role! And I actually think the awkwardness works. The character would be cringy if she was quick witted
She is wonder woman but her acting skills are B-
Facts. She's amazing as Wonder Wonder
I like that she shows awkwardness to her character cuz it shows how human she is like the rest of us which makes her even more relatable
I think Gal Gadot really fits this role perfectly but I also think she could use some acting classes. She could be better I think..
Helder Almeida I haven’t seen her in other roles so I don’t know; however, I think she kills it as Wonder Woman !
im crying like baby when diana very hard to let go steve.
Mee
Too !! :(
😭
I love the goodbye Trevor scene too, very emotional and both Gal and Chris's delivery of the emotional lines were amazing
I have to disagree Grace, just watched the movie and she was great in the action scenes, but I dont think she has the acting chops for the emotional moments it comes off as corny and awkward, especially compared to the other actors in the room
I disagree. I think she stepped it up from the last movie. I can look at Gal as an actress now. It's the writing that didn’t do her justice.
Completely disagree, she can cut it as an actress but the action sequences were genuinely terrible but I actually don’t blame Gal but rather the director. The direction of the action sequences were horrible.
The dramaturgy and script setup was so weird and I wonder where the 200 million dollar went? It’s like a tv Show
Just to point out something I noticed. The guy who wishes for coffee immediately burns himself on his drink. I thought that was a really clever moment and insane attention to detail in the script!
Oh maybe this attention to detail is what allowed Steve to fly a modern jet and a car. ( In 1918 cars were like Model T or something).
The lasso can make you see what she wants. There’s a episode in Lynda Carters show where she tells the men what to remember and say
Don’t know if you’ve read already, but the payoff for Asteria happens in the post-credits, with the casting of Asteria. You guessed it already in the non-spoiler review.
"It's an imperfect film, but it's an ambitious film, and it's a gorgeous film and it's a moving film". Exactly!
Did we watch the same movie? I only liked Pedro's character... and cheetas 5 mins on screen ..
@@simpayshenaides ? I'm part of the 80% ...
Movie was dumb, what was the point of the intro ? It didn't lead to so.e foreshadowing about a lesson she would have to use later on. It was just a pilot for an Amazon show. We saw her grow up already y did they think we gave a shit about lil wonder woman again. ?
..it had its moments, but gal is a stiff as usual,, cheetah was kind cool.. too bad the ending gets preachy and political as expected.. it fails as a thriller and barely entertaining
Female directors can’t make bad movies in her mind
Worst movie of the year. Looks cheap, horrible pace, bad writing, and bad CG. I knew Grace would love it... Anything virtue signaling or women made gets an automatic pass, justification, and even praise from Grace.
"They just borrowed his body and Diana had sex with him without him knowing, I thought that that was kind of weird." 18:24
That's because it's rape and the double standards are unbelievable. As we all know, this would've been cancelled had it been a gender-reversed situation. Not to mention had the guy not been handsome, which is literally what his credits got to be on IMDb. Sick.
That said, this was a very in-depth review just lovely as always. Keep up the nice and hard work, Grace, a delight.
Spot on
When we got to this scene, I felt really uncomfortable.
Perfectly put
I didnt even know this happened cuz they cut out that scene in my theater
Yeeks that's awkward
I watched the movie, some things are just plain silly even in the realms of disbelief suspension. But the emotional beats really hit hard, The Steve one hit hard but the one that hit hardest for me was the Maxwell one at the end. I teared up at one point. It's nice to know it had the same effect in Grace too.
Its an 80s throwback even more than that, not Everything has to be cynical. ........ .
@@marcsteven5532Yes, but it has to have at least some sense of realism, otherwise it will take the viewer out of the movie. That’s exactly what happened to me 😂 I checked out about twenty five percent through because it was just so silly and corny
LOL. Haven't seen the movie but still watching this!
same
Same here.
Yes we were told the consequences of the wish bc the coffee guy said “hot hot hot” after he drank it... he got burned literally
Lol
That Steve Trevor goodbye absolutely wrecked me. Like I had to pause the movie and hug my cat. 😩😭😭
I loved Cheetah. She was amazing. And it makes complete sense that the character who always felt invisible and was insecure, her to care about being attractive. And she turned into a cheetah because she wished to Max to become something like no one else, an apex predator.
That’s it. Not sure how Grace overlooked this. When I saw the scene, it made perfect sense to me why Barbara became a cheetah. A chetah is in fact an Apex predator. Under the circumstances, she could’ve became any of the ThunderCats.
@@CommodoreGT no one overlooked anything. Cheetah's transformation was incredibly lack luster. Stop defending bad writing
She was able to make another wish because she renounced her fist one.
@@emanthescripter1076 I think she became a cheetah as the side effect of being more powerful, that was the downside
@@Twistedwolf-ru2qk no she didn't. her first wish was basically to not be a "loser" or "insecure" anymore and becomes the confident person like diana.
if she renounced her first wish to be a cheetah, she would be a very insecure and not confident cheetah lol. and the real apex predator cheetah doesn't have the same power as a daughter of a God lol. how can a mere cheetah rip away the amazonian armor strongest in the world?
bc she still has the wonder woman power that she wishes for in the beginning. so no. she never renounced it.
Saw it today, i'm confused as to how the whole wishing thing works but it was a fun time ! Also Cheetah was so random lol
It was terrible. They killed WW. I'm very concerned about Patty Jenkins doing this crap in Star Wars.
it was awful! wtf, where was WW? No sword, no shield, her bf constantly around. No actual climax with the superhero beating the shit out of the villain (no that fight w/Cheetah was stupid). This movie was a cheesy, romance novel with cheap stunts. I can't believe they made Diana into a cheesy little romance character instead of the badass warrior she is. 🤷🏼♀️
Honestly, I felt more emotional for Maxwell's son than I did anything between Diana and Steve.
Maxwell was great it was so fun seeing Pedro play the part of a villian, his scenes were my favorites to watch