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Komentáře • 378

  • @LRRMTG
    @LRRMTG  Před 2 lety +433

    For those asking, the “vetoed” decks were the ones you’d very likely expect (Atraxa, Edgar, Meren, etc). There really weren’t *that* many, to be honest.

    • @TTKBlazer97
      @TTKBlazer97 Před 2 lety +4

      Will the most recent baldur's gate Decks be included in the wheel?

    • @grennysohail
      @grennysohail Před 2 lety +22

      Just seeing the three examples, it makes complete sense to see those get vetoed from the wheel
      Those decks specifically while tuned to play fair with the other decks, were still just really powerful to play.
      To a point that I think in French Commander communities, Edgar Markov (vampire lord, token spammer) banned him for unfair interaction.

    • @gibbyc9293
      @gibbyc9293 Před 2 lety +35

      How’s bout a game where the four vetoed decks are played?

    • @brendaneichler5480
      @brendaneichler5480 Před 2 lety +11

      @@grennysohail To be fair, French Commander is a 1 v 1 format, and Edgar can quickly overpower if he only has one opponent to worry about.

    • @aaron9797
      @aaron9797 Před 2 lety +2

      must bring out the vetoed decks for a game one day

  • @NychIsHere
    @NychIsHere Před 2 lety +243

    My Mum grew up on this show, so glad that I get to experience this gritty yet culturally grounded reboot

    • @FrozenLavaDragonProd
      @FrozenLavaDragonProd Před 2 lety +2

      Is this based on another show?

    • @chad3166
      @chad3166 Před rokem +1

      @@FrozenLavaDragonProd not that I'm aware of, in America we had a similar show called Commander Clubhouse, and it had the Commander Cyclone, it was super weird

  • @PaulStefko
    @PaulStefko Před 2 lety +175

    The wheel provided perfect color balance: two of each color.

    • @3393matthew
      @3393matthew Před 2 lety +23

      Two of each color AND no two players shared more than one color.

    • @syklonic
      @syklonic Před 2 lety +4

      perfectly balanced, as all things should be

    • @koshi6505
      @koshi6505 Před 2 lety +2

      For some reason when Kathleen said Graham tried to keep the wheel color balanced, I was thinking in terms of graphic design. 🤦

  • @lirazel6414
    @lirazel6414 Před 2 lety +93

    The primly mischievous expression on Cam's face as he says or hears something mildly risqué is priceless.

  • @TimPoultney
    @TimPoultney Před 2 lety +119

    Wheel of Precons turn, turn, turn!! Teach us the lesson that we must learn!!

    • @PyrenKir
      @PyrenKir Před 2 lety +21

      Lesson 17 - Double Red is a valid precon color.

    • @EJN64
      @EJN64 Před 2 lety +3

      @@PyrenKir more red per red means more win #rdw

    • @ForeverOdd
      @ForeverOdd Před 2 lety +5

      Lesson 219: Aggro is always a valid strategy.

  • @jioplip
    @jioplip Před 2 lety +169

    I think wheel of precons is gonna be a favorite part of EDSC for me going forward. I really like the vibe of the precon power level as well as the fun of the players having no idea what their deck will be until just before the game. Thanks so much for the fun and entertaining video LRRfolks

    • @morgancarlton4544
      @morgancarlton4544 Před 2 lety +3

      Reminds me of how I first got introduced to MTG through Day9 & SpellSlingers

  • @FreddieFevens
    @FreddieFevens Před 2 lety +54

    Sometimes resolving Lim Dul’s vault just results in a long bitter realization you’re destined to lose.

  • @JelloBrand
    @JelloBrand Před 2 lety +9

    "Ethically sourced sustainable beatdown" - what a line, Nelson!
    I think I'm going to start brewing a deck around that!

  • @DefinitelyNotReal627
    @DefinitelyNotReal627 Před 2 lety +21

    Ben doing going full boomer then doing a real life smash cut back to reality is distilled serotonin.

  • @noxthebarbarian
    @noxthebarbarian Před 2 lety +8

    "why arent we playing 7up right now" followed by three simultaneous flops absolutely detroyed me

  • @Codatski
    @Codatski Před 2 lety +47

    EDSC is just... really good. Ya'll are excellent at what you do.

  • @LoganAura
    @LoganAura Před 2 lety +16

    I did not expect the wheel of precons to be that large, but I am not complaining in the slightest

  • @tzarl
    @tzarl Před 2 lety +17

    Cutting to the overhead as soon as Nelson asked why they weren't playing heads up seven up absolutely made my day! XD

  • @chaosmittens
    @chaosmittens Před 2 lety +29

    I fist pumped so hard when Cam made the cascade Lilliana joke. It’s one of my favorite deep cut LLRisms

    • @tricorderandrewjw
      @tricorderandrewjw Před 2 lety

      What's it a reference to?

    • @chaosmittens
      @chaosmittens Před 2 lety +1

      It’s an old anecdote from Cam, overhearing a player at YJ angrily telling a powerful magic story from Modern, about how his opponent cast Bloodbraid Elf and cascaded into Liliana of the Veil. Back in a time when Jund was very prominent in the meta.

  • @ff0213
    @ff0213 Před 2 lety +5

    I like to think Ben went out the same way Adam did when he smashed into that door 12 times in the adventure book

  • @Merc1987
    @Merc1987 Před 2 lety +33

    I am so happy there's content creation around precons!

  • @mattperkinson9604
    @mattperkinson9604 Před 2 lety +12

    For future reference, Cam and Ben’s commanders would have remained in the graveyard during the resolution of Danse Macabre, making them legal choices to bring back to Kathleen’s battlefield. Only once the current spell finishes resolving do you choose to move your commander to the command zone. Just wanted to say something because I know it’s a confusing interaction for a lot of people! Love the EDSC and the wheel of precons!

    • @magnetronman298
      @magnetronman298 Před 2 lety +1

      Also worth noting that had Kathleen chosen a commander to return to the battlefield, the commander's controller would be allowed to return it to the command zone still

    • @mattperkinson9604
      @mattperkinson9604 Před 2 lety +6

      Actually, no! You can choose to send your commander to the command zone when it changes zones going anywhere other than the battlefield. And since the game doesn’t remember that it’s the same entity that was sent to the graveyard, you can absolutely steal someone’s commander with cards like danse macabre and necromantic selection, with no opportunity for them to put it in the command zone if they let it die.

    • @magnetronman298
      @magnetronman298 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mattperkinson9604 oh true I forgot you can't do that if it's going to the battlefield

    • @mattperkinson9604
      @mattperkinson9604 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, it rarely comes up

  • @dannewhall5256
    @dannewhall5256 Před 2 lety +43

    I love this, random decks that show people playing if for the first time is a great idea. Also so many of these seem like really well made decks with great power levels. Thanks for making this show you guys!

  • @Dragiceoriginal
    @Dragiceoriginal Před 2 lety +9

    Just because Nelson mentioned “Creature or player” here - There’s actually only *a single* card that says “creature or player” for damage now - Firesong and Sunspeaker, from the set when they changed the rule. I’m relatively certain F&S was an oversight too.

  • @ryanjohnston4249
    @ryanjohnston4249 Před rokem +2

    This is actually nice to watch. A game where you don't see everything go nuts by turn four. Nothing which ensures infinite combos and such.

  • @Jack.1.1
    @Jack.1.1 Před 2 lety +7

    The perfect colour balance is really satisfying

  • @WilyWiley1
    @WilyWiley1 Před 2 lety +9

    End results aside, you can really see how Wizards got better at making precons as the years went by. Nelson's and Kathleen's decks had lots of synergy throughout the 99 and with their commander. Cam's deck was just Naya BIG with a Naya counter commander. And Ben's was half a Esper lifegain & half a Esper artifact deck just jammed together.
    Still super fun to watch though!

  • @quillproductions377
    @quillproductions377 Před 2 lety +38

    I was wondering how long it would take for Ben to miss the Oloro command zone trigger (as I often do). The answer - immediately

  • @ShawnPoulsen
    @ShawnPoulsen Před 2 lety +7

    Cameron was so chipper! And bloodthirsty! That was a fun game!

  • @zanemartin455
    @zanemartin455 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm so glad this international treasure of a show gets to continue for a new generation

  • @quillproductions377
    @quillproductions377 Před 2 lety +4

    That look between Ben and Cam when Nelson played Scytheclaw was hilarious

  • @scottelliott6769
    @scottelliott6769 Před 2 lety +4

    I was literally just re-watching the first episode and thinking "hmm, they said monthly, so that should be coming up soon!" This episode was fantastic! Can't wait til next month!

  • @metalhat3534
    @metalhat3534 Před 2 lety +25

    34:35 To be fair to Ben, Sweden was a neutral country during WW2 but profitted similarly to Switzerland by trading with the axis.
    And I need to correct Cameron unfortunately, the Swedes were more for expansion, especially regarding the 30 years war compared to Switzerland, which provided the continent with loads of Mercenaries.
    Source: am Swiss, work with Swedes, bit of a history nerd.

    • @PokeStatsStudios
      @PokeStatsStudios Před 2 lety

      Also, let's not forget that swedes are, by nature, dumb-dumbs.

  • @hummbirb1384
    @hummbirb1384 Před 2 lety +8

    Glad this is the kind of commander content you want to make, because this is the kind of commander content I love!
    Edit: the wheel of precons is a very fun idea, I love it!

  • @Pengu92
    @Pengu92 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the wheel, the wheel is going to put in so much work for this series and it's amazing.
    Also amazing is how half the pod got 2 decks from the same wave of product (Oloro and Marath).
    Also also amazing to see how precons have evolved over the years, even from just looking at Ezuri to Prosper

    • @emilysmith2965
      @emilysmith2965 Před rokem +1

      I have both those precons (which have since been reassembled to some degree) and… yeah. I completely forgot about Scytheclaw being a card Ezuri had. It’s a fine card, but its effect doesn’t synergize with counters at all. Got cut immediately.
      Meanwhile, Prosper can win games at your LGS right out of the box. The cards play together well. Cascade, rebound, suspend, and plenty of other oddball ways to cast cards out of exile. Love him.

  • @Ceronna
    @Ceronna Před 2 lety +3

    Elder Dragon Social Club has been so wonderful. Keep up the amazing content.

  • @inquisitorofkozilekgames4478

    Yes!!! Starting my new job and this is the perfect thing to start my day before I go in. Love you guys for this! ♥️

  • @ryanmann5497
    @ryanmann5497 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Poor Ben, playing the worst deck at the table AND getting assaulted by everyone at the table 😂

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach Před 2 lety +1

    This series is turning out to be a delight! Thanks for making it :D

  • @joshbaker1639
    @joshbaker1639 Před 2 lety +8

    I love this series so much. In fact, wasn’t planning on buying any cards for a while, but will just so I can use the link to Card Kingdom so this series can likely continue.

  • @germanyjones2700
    @germanyjones2700 Před 2 lety +2

    Absolutely love these! Absolutely love the LRR crew! Thanks be to the kingdom of cards!

  • @ecl4396
    @ecl4396 Před 2 lety +1

    >attempts to search a precon for answers
    >dies

  • @MicahCohan
    @MicahCohan Před 13 dny

    I like how the decks came with naturally balanced color representation

  • @jasonmolisani1864
    @jasonmolisani1864 Před 2 lety +1

    That was a fun episode!
    Also, I liked the addition of commander damage when it was happening/relevant. Good editing!

  • @matejbina626
    @matejbina626 Před 2 lety

    Love the idea, and of course the player banter is pure delight with you guys! Keep it coming!

  • @veronicavanvoorst4964
    @veronicavanvoorst4964 Před 2 lety +2

    Such a great wheel. The sound, the visuals, it is fantastic.

  • @christophermorrison9344
    @christophermorrison9344 Před 2 lety +4

    Oh hype I guess I found my magic content to listen to at work for today

  • @thenewpublichouse
    @thenewpublichouse Před 2 lety +4

    Y'all, this is such a good series. Great job!

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone2678 Před 2 lety +1

    When I saw your video go up,I dropped everything to watch some fun magic with friends

  • @Dave8400-
    @Dave8400- Před 2 lety

    I love that this is commander precons 1. Keep em coming! This is the same kind of pander and pettiness that I get at my kitchen table and I love it!

  • @SilasTheLunark
    @SilasTheLunark Před 2 lety

    Really enjoyed this! Engaging with the algorithm to ensure more is made

  • @mixmatched2342
    @mixmatched2342 Před rokem

    This is exactly the kind of Commander content I want to see!

  • @TruBoreDOM
    @TruBoreDOM Před 2 lety +2

    NEW EDSC HELL YES, just rewatched the other one so I'm hype for more

  • @DavidHernandez-yc3cq
    @DavidHernandez-yc3cq Před 2 lety +5

    we run a precon league at my lgs, no changed right out of the box. its hecka fun

  • @GoofyahhGus
    @GoofyahhGus Před 2 lety +1

    Loved this. Precon focus is right up my street. Look forward to more

  • @LadyLockwood92
    @LadyLockwood92 Před 2 lety +1

    "Cameron will remember this." - Jun 29 2018.

  • @mariambarnes4023
    @mariambarnes4023 Před 2 lety +4

    You know I really wasn't sure how the new hosts would handle the wheel after the legacy left by the original but I think they've really filled the old hosts' shoes and mastered the wheel

  • @owenberland1974
    @owenberland1974 Před rokem

    One of the best pieces of commander content recently on this channel, please do more random commander commander games in the future!

  • @BaltanTwo
    @BaltanTwo Před 2 lety

    Very happy with the episode and range or decks! Was nice to see some old-school options in the mix.

  • @gumbyflambe9013
    @gumbyflambe9013 Před 2 lety

    I swear, everything loading ready run makes gives e so much joy every time🤗

  • @syaoran5476
    @syaoran5476 Před 2 lety +1

    Everyone is so fantastic but I am always so happy to see Ben hes so bubbly it just makes my day to see him

  • @oswaldbuttery7664
    @oswaldbuttery7664 Před 2 lety +2

    I love this. I am engaging. HEAR THAT ALGORITHM? IM ENGAGING!

  • @tonyfencer
    @tonyfencer Před rokem

    Cam you "the literal nut" will make me smile for years to come.

  • @morpheoMancer
    @morpheoMancer Před 2 lety +2

    This was great! I really hope the Saskia the Unyielding deck makes it onto the wheel at some point... she's my absolute favorite!

  • @hurricanealpaca804
    @hurricanealpaca804 Před 2 lety

    So glad this show exists! My favorite format with my favorite creators!

  • @ImARichard
    @ImARichard Před 2 lety +11

    I love seeing Oloro! That was my first deck. The stock precon is so weird with all those giant spells and half assed focus on artifacts. Ive adapted it to a life gain "I win" deck with things like Aetherflux Reservoir, Approach of the Second Sun, Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood, Felidar Sovereign, and other life total shenanigans and combos.

  • @robertbolea4341
    @robertbolea4341 Před 2 lety +1

    the way that Ben basically killed himself with that Limdul's vault play.

  • @Espressokill
    @Espressokill Před 2 lety

    This was so much fun loved it guys keep this content coming !!

  • @nathanpatterson9913
    @nathanpatterson9913 Před 2 lety

    Please keep doing these videos i love seeing old precons against eachother

  • @richardpaley
    @richardpaley Před 2 lety

    Was excited for the wheel and it didn't disappoint. Great to see out of the box precons.

  • @kismetsoul4593
    @kismetsoul4593 Před 2 lety

    I love the LRR crew very much. It's always great to watch your videos. It would be amazing to someday work with you all.

  • @hooh77
    @hooh77 Před 2 lety

    25:30 As a Pole I can agree that this description is pretty accurate

  • @ryanjohnstone9097
    @ryanjohnstone9097 Před 2 lety

    Ethically-sourced, sustainable beatdown sounds like a prime candidate for a button

  • @dallinsilver3175
    @dallinsilver3175 Před 2 lety

    Ah to see the old precon decks in their glory brings me boomer joy. And they were able to hang with some new ones. Love the concept of this game. Please do another!

  • @jcblacksmith
    @jcblacksmith Před 2 lety +1

    Heck Yesseroonie, thanks for the fun vids and fancy editing!

  • @lerasedcitizenl
    @lerasedcitizenl Před 2 lety +2

    Love the video, thanks for representing “normal magic” with the precons.

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain Před 2 lety +1

    The Marath Precon was my first one, even though I started playing years afterwards, so this was pure nostalgia for me

  • @laneedgington
    @laneedgington Před 2 lety

    Certainly enjoying this. I'm down for more of this content.

  • @joe_8699
    @joe_8699 Před rokem

    I like the wheel with random precons. Good way to see how they play out and how strong or weak the commander may be. Great series the game play and banter is always fun to watch and listen.

  • @zacharyjoy8724
    @zacharyjoy8724 Před rokem +1

    Very awesome to see so many older decks here. It’s always interesting to see how precons have evolved over time.
    Also, it’s impressive that you (Kathleen) landed the most popular Rakdos commander (at least on EDHREC), and proved your skill at using him.
    EDIT: I don’t know if you guys accept challenges,but I have one for you (or anyone). I would *love* to see a deck that not only includes both Prosper and Faldorn, but summons both at least once. I like their synergy, but I’m not great at building decks from scratch.

  • @coldbrewcat
    @coldbrewcat Před 2 lety

    "many of you will experience green die" never change, cam

  • @345tom
    @345tom Před 2 lety

    I'm sure I wasn't the only one who asked, but I'm so happy to see the little pop up that shows Commander Damage!

  • @LadyLunarSatine
    @LadyLunarSatine Před 2 lety

    Content I never expected but am grateful for the reactions: Molasses and nuts.

  • @LoxhamInABox
    @LoxhamInABox Před 2 lety

    Good stuff, the wheel is great! Can't wait for more.

  • @varlmorgaine3700
    @varlmorgaine3700 Před rokem

    So happy to found you guyes awesome and nice content :)

  • @Vmcf1968
    @Vmcf1968 Před 2 lety +1

    card kingdom i love this show. keeping paying the good people of lrr to produce it for you.

  • @devinsarter9713
    @devinsarter9713 Před 2 lety

    Kathleen, the only non-cursed player at the table, and yet still the first to go. Lol
    Loved the game and the show! Thanks for it!

  • @malcomchase9777
    @malcomchase9777 Před 2 lety

    Precons are so fun. Magic with back and forth is so much more interesting.

  • @KSechrist
    @KSechrist Před 2 lety

    As I watched the wheel at the start, my first thought was, "Cameron, the hulk of LRR" hahaha

  • @slightlyOnion
    @slightlyOnion Před rokem

    Your color parity worked out perfectly. 2 players on the able are in white. And two in blue. And two in black. Two in Red and two in green

  • @derekreed6627
    @derekreed6627 Před 2 lety

    This is great, love seeing pre-con matches.

  • @Solsiva
    @Solsiva Před 2 lety

    I really liked this, hope to see more.

  • @andimayer1119
    @andimayer1119 Před 2 lety +2

    Marath also now says X can't be zero.

  • @MrSwordJ
    @MrSwordJ Před 2 lety

    The theme for this is awesome.

  • @whitefirecomix
    @whitefirecomix Před 2 lety +1

    The wheel knows all; the wheel sees all. Also, thank you Heather :)

  • @IrishAndAwkward
    @IrishAndAwkward Před 2 lety

    I love this idea and I'd be totally fine if this were every episode.

  • @bendertusepaki8995
    @bendertusepaki8995 Před 2 lety

    Can’t wait to get my hands on some LRR sleeves 👀

  • @finnsclarinet
    @finnsclarinet Před 2 lety +2

    Loving the randomness of the wheel! Great to see how this game went. Not trying to nitpick, I love the series and I have not yet finished the episode, but I think a few Gahiji triggers were missed.

  • @ddjoker0813
    @ddjoker0813 Před 2 lety

    Love this concept, hope to see more wheel of precons

  • @mattybbg6850
    @mattybbg6850 Před 2 lety

    I'm really enjoying these, oh and engagement for the algorithm!!

  • @elscourou6654
    @elscourou6654 Před 2 lety

    A commander precon wheel is a great idea!! keep it going

  • @noahsark342
    @noahsark342 Před 2 lety

    Once again here to enjoy some really great relaxed MTG content. Great stuff.... I don't even play MTG!!!

  • @pyredynasty
    @pyredynasty Před 2 lety

    Cam: you're all just playing Commander, I'm playing Command & Conquer.

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Před 2 lety

    Oh man, this was great!

  • @omahonda
    @omahonda Před 2 lety

    Loved this pilot, and excited for many more of these! Great concept. I always thought precon decks make for the best balanced games.