Interesting and inspiring discussion. I agree with you in that it’s likely not optimal to plant so many trees. I’d also add more variety in plant types and include nitrogen fixers. I also think that public food forests give us so much value in the long term that we should really focus on food producing plants even if they cost a lot more now.
Great video, there are a number of pine forests in the uk where the trees are space no more than a metre apart in some areas. I’m guessing these forests are about 40 years old i’ve been planting trees at spacings of 1 foot apart up to 5 m apart in the areas where the trees have been planted with wider spacing. I’ve planted understory, Berry bushes and shrubs. I’m also working on planting dense fruit and nut, bearing tree stands alongside my farm tracks, and then on the margins of these plantings, I will be planting understory shrubs and herbs. I collected about 100 horse chestnuts which I put in a 2 foot Diameter pot last fall and covered with a 50-50 sand compost mix as I didn’t have time to plant these out. Anyway I forgot about them and they all germinated. I now have a mini forest of 100 horse chestnuts in an area of about 2 foot😂
In the video start, that example in Indiana will require continuing stewardship or it will be overrun with bush honeysuckle or autumn olive in short order.
I have to thank you Robert. Your videos have helped spark my love for gardening to the next level. I have enjoyed how you teach and have started reading your books as well. I feel like alot of my time and experience are coming together because of your teaching. Looking forward to continue to grow and thrive as a gardener and hopefully give back in the future helping others.
Great vid and I have been impressed with your style of handling information. It would be easy to study a mature forest that was planted tightly for all natural forests where volunteered in such a fashion. I have personally seen trees that flourished in the middle of a thick forest bean pole 60ft to make it to the canopy and when they do. That is the best lumber available since it has next to zero knots/ limbs. Trees like to share unlike some people I know :]
I've often wondered about what the cutting down of so many trees everywhere if this could be a part of Global Warming. And with all the fires everywhere sure can't be helping..... Great video.....
For a healthy forest, diversity meant age diversity as well as species. The mature miyawaki forest at the end of the video looks more like a tree plantation than a forest. Maybe after planting miyawaki forest, they should come each year cut down some trees and plant new ones or let natural regeneration work, it will provide dead wood, and age diversity to the forest which are very important. Clearing and edges ecosystems are very rich in biodiversity also. I personally think that the best way is to follow natural succession but accompany and accelerate it wisely. That should let the soil, microbes, fungies, plants and animals to come, adapt themselves and evolve in the ecosystem. Miyawaki forest is a good idea but the core idea of it is not be dogmatic and be inventive, we can take inspiration of it but should work with nature for her/our best.
There is a lot of generalization in this presentation. There are forests in the desert too (ironwood, mesquite, palo verde) and this description just doesn't apply in my opinion. Most tree instruction say do not significantly amend the soul as the roots just stay in that layer and don't properly anchor the trees or allow the roots to broadly expand. This is clearly northern climate information.
Interesting and inspiring discussion. I agree with you in that it’s likely not optimal to plant so many trees. I’d also add more variety in plant types and include nitrogen fixers.
I also think that public food forests give us so much value in the long term that we should really focus on food producing plants even if they cost a lot more now.
Thank you for bringing a sceptical perspective!
Great video, there are a number of pine forests in the uk where the trees are space no more than a metre apart in some areas. I’m guessing these forests are about 40 years old i’ve been planting trees at spacings of 1 foot apart up to 5 m apart in the areas where the trees have been planted with wider spacing. I’ve planted understory, Berry bushes and shrubs. I’m also working on planting dense fruit and nut, bearing tree stands alongside my farm tracks, and then on the margins of these plantings, I will be planting understory shrubs and herbs. I collected about 100 horse chestnuts which I put in a 2 foot Diameter pot last fall and covered with a 50-50 sand compost mix as I didn’t have time to plant these out. Anyway I forgot about them and they all germinated. I now have a mini forest of 100 horse chestnuts in an area of about 2 foot😂
In the video start, that example in Indiana will require continuing stewardship or it will be overrun with bush honeysuckle or autumn olive in short order.
I have to thank you Robert. Your videos have helped spark my love for gardening to the next level. I have enjoyed how you teach and have started reading your books as well. I feel like alot of my time and experience are coming together because of your teaching. Looking forward to continue to grow and thrive as a gardener and hopefully give back in the future helping others.
Great information. Love your channel.
Great vid and I have been impressed with your style of handling information. It would be easy to study a mature forest that was planted tightly for all natural forests where volunteered in such a fashion. I have personally seen trees that flourished in the middle of a thick forest bean pole 60ft to make it to the canopy and when they do. That is the best lumber available since it has next to zero knots/ limbs. Trees like to share unlike some people I know :]
Great ideas.
Thank you Mr. P. 🪻🌷💚🙃
I wonder if Ontario should give special consideration to tree species that can survive ice storms.
❤Thank You😊
How is the end result different from natural hedges people have been using for centuries in Europe?
I've often wondered about what the cutting down of so many trees everywhere if this could be a part of Global Warming. And with all the fires everywhere sure can't be helping.....
Great video.....
I don't understand your first sentence, but anyway it will please you to learn that in the US forest cover has increased by 5% between 1990 and 2020
For a healthy forest, diversity meant age diversity as well as species. The mature miyawaki forest at the end of the video looks more like a tree plantation than a forest. Maybe after planting miyawaki forest, they should come each year cut down some trees and plant new ones or let natural regeneration work, it will provide dead wood, and age diversity to the forest which are very important. Clearing and edges ecosystems are very rich in biodiversity also.
I personally think that the best way is to follow natural succession but accompany and accelerate it wisely. That should let the soil, microbes, fungies, plants and animals to come, adapt themselves and evolve in the ecosystem.
Miyawaki forest is a good idea but the core idea of it is not be dogmatic and be inventive, we can take inspiration of it but should work with nature for her/our best.
There is a lot of generalization in this presentation. There are forests in the desert too (ironwood, mesquite, palo verde) and this description just doesn't apply in my opinion. Most tree instruction say do not significantly amend the soul as the roots just stay in that layer and don't properly anchor the trees or allow the roots to broadly expand. This is clearly northern climate information.