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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- If you thought a 'shell layer' was just a fancy term for a rain jacket, you'd be wrong. In this episode, Sofia and Calle go all in on shells. How they work, why they work, when to wear them and when not to wear them.
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Materials
01:27 - Construction
02:23 - High Coast Lite Jacket
03:02 - High Coast Shade Jacket
04:11 - Kaipak Jacket
04:16 - Skogsö Jacket
05:20 - Keb Eco-Shell Jacket
07:13 - Poncho
07:49 - Luhkka
09:01 - Outro
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Very nice video. Very comprehensive without being boring.
Absolutely love these videos. It's great just to watch you two talk gear and nature.
Fun! Nice presentation. You need to talk a bit more about how tough and durable your products are. Heavier yes, but you can really go bushwhacking and not worry about tearing your new jacket. You will probably hand it down to one of your children too!
The Fjallraven Vidda pro jacket is tough for bushcraft/bushes/thorns etc. Much like the vidda pro trousers.
Nice and interesting video I’ve seen with happiness.
I own a poncho from a long time which protect me very well from the wind, I never see it on the trails here in Italy, so I ‘m happy to see it promoted in the video (poncho don’t protect well from heavy rains because condensation is formed on its inside).
I really like the video series with these two presenters
I have a number of Fjallraven G-1000 smocks and jackets and I do love the traditional look and hard-wearing qualities. Sadly though they are not ideal for the very rainy weather we have here in Scotland, even if you wax them, the rain gets through. If it's bucketing rain in the winter maybe a poncho on top of a g-1000 jacket would work, but otherwise I think a goretex jacket or suchlike is a better bet. The Paramo system is popular here, but only good for the very active, as it relies on high breathability and constant drying to work effectively.
This is where the eco-shell is great! I'm Aussie, so certainly not as in as rainy weather as Scotland, but for heavy or persistent rain, I use the Keb Eco-Shell (which is practically a Gore Tex alternative) but for light rains, I'll wear my waxed Greenland jacket.
A shame the eco-shell isn't produced in that same old school, traditional style of the G-1000 garments.
@@evigvandrare That’s it Jake, I love the rugged look of a well worn G1000 jacket. I like your Australian dusters too, look great when they’re a bit roughed-up, but not waterproof enough in persistent, heavy rain.
It doesn’t rain every day. For those times the Fjallraven jacket is ideal.
I live in Ireland and throw on an ex bundeswehr goretex on top of my Vidda pro jacket, when it’s totally lashing!
These are great videos. It's nice to see the products in use or when wearing them. This gives you a better idea on the fit and function. Have a nice holiday. Peace. I have the Skogso also. My pronunciation was way off, ha.
Thank you. So practical
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@@aamirkhalil4862 ist es auch noch nicht mal ein bisschen was ich hab das ist nicht schlimm wenn du da nicht nicht schlafen willst ich bin nicht da und bin jetzt auch nicht nicht da bin aber nicht da bin bin jetzt wieder wach und bin jetzt jetzt erst wieder zu Abend da bin jetzt jetzt erst wieder zu Abend bei euch und bin in Potsdam in München bin ich auch auch noch mal ein paar Sachen für die Hochzeit Hochzeit mit dem Essen da bin jetzt schon fertig geworden ich bin noch mal ein paar Tage und bin in Potsdam in München bin in der der Halle in Potsdam und ich hab das schon fertig fertig und dann bin noch noch nicht da und bin jetzt wieder wieder da bin jetzt schon wieder zu Abend da bin jetzt wieder da und ich hab das jetzt auch nicht so richtig gemacht ich bin auch nicht da bin jetzt wieder wieder zu Abend da bin jetzt schon fertig geworden ich hab das jetzt auch schon schon wieder meine beste Leben ist ein paar paar Sachen da und bin ich dabei aber das das stimmt ja auch schon mal ein ein paar Leute zu zu machen dass wir
Very informative. Thanks!
That poncho is awesome , had mine for 10 years , should make the neck are a little wider to fit under hoodie or G1000 shell jacket , used 4 seasons 👍🏽
I absolutely love the vidda pros, and everything you guys make. Clothes never made me so happy!
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very useful article, comment for the algorithm
Great video!
Love my G-1000 pants! Buying more for Christmas!
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I'm still waiting for Fjallraven to make a G-1000 jacket that fits my need. It would be like a Keb-jacket (great hood, ventilation and stretch panels) but with big pockets for gloves and hats.
+1
This is why I am considering the Kaipak, it is g1000 eco, with stretch panels under the arms.
@@M1_K3Y Me too, but the pocketsare a bit small (not external), the hood is smaller and the fit might also be a bit too slim (like the keb).
The keb isn’t much good in the rain, too many stretch panels i think. I think it’s more of a soft shell, shower resistant.
Have you tried them? I was considering the Keb but also thought it was too much stretch for brush and campfires. I would have liked if they included handpockets that you ignore if you wear a hip belt, having no pockets and calling it a design feature isn’t great for me. Locally I can only try the Skogso and it’s fine (XL) however I like the idea of more g1000 eco (rather than lite) with the stretch of Kaipak. Just trying to see if I’m an XL in Kaipak as well even though I heard the fit is more regular than the Skogso (slimmer).
I just want to give a shout out to the poncho. If you go backpacking in mixed conditions it beats a hard shell hands down. I have no issue with moderate sized backpacks like Friluft 45. Bring a pair of light shell pants as a supplement and you will stay dry when it pours. It also doubles as a small tarp (love the snap button design on the sides) and as a waterproof blanket. If you are worried about not looking smart wearing it, just go for the orange one as I did 🤣
Love my poncho, the other solutions simply can't handle a pouring rain. Use it especially on the bike, and when hiking it covers the backpack as well.
Nice! Does anyone know about the hydratic material?
Great video! #longlifelesswaste #natureiswaiting #getreadyforanywhere
Hi, thank you for the great intro into Fjällräven´s shells! I have a question regarding sizes, as this is always a topic for me when shopping Fjällräven products. I am 178cm, 75kg, and usually I go for "M" or 30-32 for trousers (my Keb is 30-31). So, for example, my Singi Knit Sweater is M and fits just fine, in Malmö at the FR store I was recommended to buy my Keb Eco Shell Jacket in S by the staff to have a snug fit which would be better for membrane shell garments in terms of evaporation and breathability as air space is minimized I am happy with - it works really good. Some times thoughI wish I would have a bit more space for layering. Now I decided for a Kaipak Jacket, tried S and M and cannot decide, S fits good and snug, M gives more room for thicker layers, but feels bulky when I just have a thin layer beneath. I know this comes down to personal preference, but maybe this is what you could share from your personal point of view. Cheers, Christopher
Thank you for the feedback! If you want to have more room for layers a compromise is needed in case you are also using only one thin layer. The jacket will be a bit bulky, it cannot be avoided. We hope you will like the jacket!
@ Thank you, yeah I went for M, esp. for the layering options. Christ
When I go out in nature I tend to go hiking, what’s called bushcrafting nowadays and canoeing for 2 week trips without resupply.
So in general quite active stuff, with changing circumstances. My problem has been that my waterproof shells always lack breathability when active and above 10C. I’m always more drenched from sweat than the rain since I sweat a lot.
So mostly lighter gear is advised for breathability, however durability becomes a major problem. I hope someday a jacket will be made that can handle me.
Until now none I tried can, not Fjallraven either.
Hi, They key there, which you might have tried already, is to help the garment a bit by opening up the front zipper and if there are any ventilation zippers on the sides. Of course it depends on the weather and circumstances if this is possible or not.
Keb is the best
Why does she look at him like that? 😳
I get the reference
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Thank you for discussing some of the materials for shells, even the variation of G-1000s is a talk for another time.
I am between the Kaipak, which is not very available in Canada, and the Skogso. My size in Skogso would be XL (large was too tight across waist and hips), however I have read that Kaipak has a more regular fit than the slimmer Skogso. At 6’3” (190 cm) and 215 lbs (97.5 kg). Have you (or commenters) tried both to know if I would be L or XL in the Kaipak?
Thank you!
Hi, We are glad to hear that you are looking at the Kaipak jkt. I recommend the XL on that jacket as well.
Thank you! Anything else you would add when comparing Kaipak and Skogso? I’ll have to see if Kaipak is available in Canada next season or it will definitely be skogso. 🦊
@@M1_K3Y The Kaipak has G-1000 and stretch panels, and the Skogsö has mainly G-1000 Lite with reinforcements of G-1000. The G-1000 Lite is a thinner and cooler fabric than the G-1000.
Yes thank you I understand that g1000 lite is thinner and lighter, I heard that the stretch of the Kaipak will still make the heavier garnet more breathable than the g1000 lite body of the Skogso. I have the product details from the website, I was hoping for a more practical comparison because in the video the hosts are wearing each, aside from pockets, cuffs and material what are some personal opinions between the two? Having only been able to try a Skogso in person I think it will be my likely choice, the full g1000eco + stretch panels may be the ideal jacket for me, do you know if it will be available again in Canada?
@@M1_K3Y Hi, Please contact our customer service in Canada for more information/availability: fjallraven.ca/pages/contact-us
Informative! Thanks!
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thanks for the great tip! #longlifelesswaste
You can get away with a g-1000 jacket if you just carry a poncho for surprise rain showers.
This is great advise for the trail! A poncho and light packable shell pants if it really starts to pour down. You can also use the poncho as a waterproof blanket or mini tarp.
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Why leave out the Bergtagen Eco Shell from this comparison?
Please stock men's Kiapac in USA plzzzzzzzz. It's hard 2 find
I'm looking between Abisko Midsummer jacket and High Coast Wind jacket and can't quite decide between the two. What would you reccomend one or the other for, thanks for helping.
Hi, Both jackets are lightweight, ventilating and packable jackets, but the Abisko Midsummer jackets is slightly more ventilating.
Hi Fjällräven!
How about sizing with Eco-Shell pants?
All my Fjällräven pants are 46 - they fit nicely saved getting 3-5 kilos extra in winter time-
I’m planning to get Keb Eco-Shell pants. Normally size 46 equals to size S. Which size should I go with, S or M?
Hi, I think you should try the size S. The Keb Eco shell trousers fit/design is made to be put on top with layers underneath.
Hi, I'm a medium size. If I wear the medium size 'Keb Fleece Hoodie', and the medium size 'Abisko Padded Vest' over it, would the medium size 'Skogso Jacket' still fit, or would I need to upsize to the large. Many thanks...
Hi, I would think you can go for the same size, but try both sizes with the layers you want to use.
#natureiswaiting
Thank you for this informative video. Would it be possible to post a comparison of the shell layers from Fjallraven, Patagonia, Haglofs and Arc’teryx, if this has not been posted already? Also, you said that 100% polyester material is recyclable, has there been scientific publications on this topic from Fjallraven?
Ofcourse the people doing commercials for Fjällräven thinks I can't use a plastic poncho for €5 and that I need to buy one for €150. That would be stupid as I would use it for 15 minutes each time....
7:20 i thought you said don't wear a plastic bag 😆
Great video! Thanks for sharing #longlifelesswaste #natureiswaiting
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No, the greenland wax is not fantastic. It's work. I want to wear my jacket, not work on it like it's my car. Fjallareven, please find a way to incorporate the max into the material so we can get our water repellancy, but not have to apply it ourselves. Thank you.
Wait, so my 7000 nok Eco Shell jacket will make me wet in the summer? Thats something I wish I had known...
What about vardag?
Hi, The Vardag Anorak also has the G-1000 which is the case for the Kaipak jacket.
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The truth is you can buy almost the same items not as good quality or fabric but does a very similar job for a third of the price Or you can kit yourself head to toe Fjallraven Gear an pay a lovely price..
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Haha...eco...but in terms of body health polyester is toxic. and that PFC free stuff is still synthetic and toxic. you can exclude a category of chemicals like PFCs but the synthetic alternatives are only slightly less toxic.
Wer ist eigentlich der Typ? Irgendwie mega unsympathisch. Sonst gutes Video.
God none of my fjallravens have been water resistant for a day , keb/ vidda pro several pairs . None repel water , my feet are always dry with hanwag boots , pitty hanwag dont make trousers, you just cant wax your pants in tents for months in mountains on a shoot , you need a pair of montane pants as decent all round pants , vietnamese made quality controll , that answered my question about dodgy seams on my black vidda pro's we have a fkallraven store in manchester iv taken two pairs out of 6 back , really annoying when you have to get them proffessionaly taken up because the legs are overly long ,
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Not good for the north of Britain as I found out. got completely soaked to the bone one day. certainly not waterproof.
@Charlie Pryde My Arcteryx jacket is completely waterproof.
Hi! Our eco-shell products are waterproof and use a PFC free impregnation that are good for the environment. Have a nice day / Lucas
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