It was a spray rail test. The results of this video lead ti the rail being relocated higher than this position and the result was ideal - no more spray in calm water at 28 knots. Thank you
The 'axe' bow trades a smoother ride for more spray. Though yes a spray sheild of some description would be good. And i would like to see her in rougher seas for which they are designed.
I understand this design and the benefits for being able to run faster in heavy seas. My question is, is this design more efficient for displacement hulls? I have been following the Amels/Damen SeaXplorer and I'm curious if that concept can be scaled down to something like a 20 meter displacement yacht built for long distances. or even smaller like 12-15 meter. Thinking of a hull design to compete with long range trawlers like Nordhavn or Dashew FPB boats. Any Damen engineers or other marine engineers want to chime in?
Axe bow is not practical for small ocean going yachts because the nose needs to be light and can not be used for much anything else than cutting through the waves. X-bow would be more practical but needs to be high enough, so it is not practical for small boats either. For 40m + size maybe.
Just an opinion, I think it would be a little more efficient if they could keep the bow up, stop the porpoising. Looks like it created a pressure area every time the bow went down. Sick vessel, though .
It could so with a wide spray deflector at the front end, but it would have to be very strong, I suggest an inclined Vee shaped spray deflector running on what appears to be a horizontal collision buffer would suit the purpose of spray deflection and might I add, the ramming efficiency......... perhaps I should not have said that, sorry for that as it would be rather cruel on you know who.
I dont see this working like it should in places like the North Sea and North Atlantic. Germans tried this in ww2 with their battleships. Way to much green sea on the bow.
Correct. Same Model, like Mercedes SL. Not a unicum. ;-) You can choose Motorpower, lenght, eqipment... Cool, how it cuts the waves instead of riding them, hm?
Dimitris Tsekeris that’s what I thought at first too, but I was at some sort of event where they explained the benefits of this axe-like bow. It has a lot of benefits.
Question : this sea axe design is instead of, or better than, the bulb design that i seen in other ships to make way through water and obtain higher speeds.
Very observant Dav - DAMEN Cape Town reviewed this footage and the spray rails were repositioned giving her much dryer decks on flat water high-speed runs.
Bulbous bows only work at low speed and specific speeds; so only work on slower vessels on a time sensitive charter such as an intermodal or a bulk carrier. Also, bulbous bows do not make the vessel faster it only saves energy which can only make a considerable saving on larger ships.
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im not convinced----lol there something very comforting about your vessels bow very high out of the water. and this design is very disconcerting and unfamiliar
I can see this yoke in high seas just simply plunging at 40 degrees right below the sea right to the bottom...probably a reason that ship builders went away from this design a 100 years ago...cant tell the iphone generation though. they think they know best...lol
Hi - I cannot speak for the design of the Ocean Warrior as I do not know who built her, but it is highly unlikely that she would not be reinforced for ice if operating in the Southern Ocean.
Ocean warrior is designed to ram ships. Period. Some day they will kill people and they will go to prison were they belong. Piracy and murder. Save the whales kill them all. Fucking wackos. Those that donated money. You funded this murderous venture. Your just as guilty an response able. Just a matter of time.
This thing hits solid ice just a foot or so thick and it will quitelike just STOP, albeit with some serious hull damage. Ships designed for ice clogged waters do not use a straight vertical hull. They are designed to ride up onto it and NOT INTO it.
I never said it was an ice breaker. I simply stated that if, while in ice clogged waters, it should impact the ice straight on, it would simply be stopped with likely hull damage.
The ship itself it's from a calm sea, creates a storm! ))))
What you see is more white bubbles than water .The real wave the ship creates (the dark water) is very low.
Obviously its a designer's mistake to not make wave/splash deflector! In calm sea on full speed all water splashes go to bridge windows. Epic fail!
Very nice new vessel, can't waite to see new campagne on Discovery with the Ocean Warrior 👌✌
That is an extremely wet boat. Pushing water like an old 18th century warship.
what you see is more white bubbles than (massive) water. the actual wave caused by the ship (dark water , not the foam) is very low.
Excellent video for an excellent vessel!
Pat Kamerman Thank you Pat - your compliment much appreciated!
It seems to me that the bow design allows for a lot of water going over the ship. The window wipers do have a full time job.
It was a spray rail test. The results of this video lead ti the rail being relocated higher than this position and the result was ideal - no more spray in calm water at 28 knots. Thank you
uhhh not---- poor design , test or not
Every one on board should have rain coat..
DAMEN "SEA PLOW" 26 - plowing a furrow through the sea ?
I won't suggest it specifically in the rough sea it takes time to resurface and not comfortable for the crew.
DAMEN "SEA PLOW" 26 - plowing a furrow through the sea ?
The splashing is not ideal no?
You'll get wet if you stand outside.
Look how calm the water is vs amount of spray
needs a spray rail around the top of the bow ! too much water going on the bridge windows .
@@fredtedstedman I think maybe is supposed to be dramatic vs functional . Big splash ooooohhhhh
@@kef103 I think theres also a lot of spray from the helicopter , but as you said its a calm sea .
The 'axe' bow trades a smoother ride for more spray. Though yes a spray sheild of some description would be good.
And i would like to see her in rougher seas for which they are designed.
DAMEN "SEA PLOW" 26 - plowing a furrow through the sea ?
That now does not look like it is very efficient!
Superb quality video
Thanks Carl, commendation appreciated :-)
I understand this design and the benefits for being able to run faster in heavy seas. My question is, is this design more efficient for displacement hulls? I have been following the Amels/Damen SeaXplorer and I'm curious if that concept can be scaled down to something like a 20 meter displacement yacht built for long distances. or even smaller like 12-15 meter. Thinking of a hull design to compete with long range trawlers like Nordhavn or Dashew FPB boats. Any Damen engineers or other marine engineers want to chime in?
>26meter is better for the axe bow, and keep the front empty .
Axe bow is not practical for small ocean going yachts because the nose needs to be light and can not be used for much anything else than cutting through the waves. X-bow would be more practical but needs to be high enough, so it is not practical for small boats either. For 40m + size maybe.
Just an opinion, I think it would be a little more efficient if they could keep the bow up, stop the porpoising. Looks like it created a pressure area every time the bow went down. Sick vessel, though .
@@traitorhatergetarope3163 don't think "sick" is a word you wanna think about ..................
I do not want to be the guy that cleans this boat upside and make it dry every two minutes. :))
But it is a fine vessel, i like this style.
wet boat just talk to the crew
DAMEN "SEA PLOW" 26 - plowing a furrow through the sea ?
It has like 2 spray rails on the bow which do nothing to deflect spray down.... terrible design
Wooo.....Cool.....!!
I like DAMEN Crew Boat !!
I made Model ship of DAMEN Crew boat.
I currently build svs cochrane, what Model did you build
It looks very inefficient 🤣
Thanks for the video. Whats the cost/price of the vessel?
OK ...so we get what it looks like cutting thru water .....
It could so with a wide spray deflector at the front end, but it would have to be very strong, I suggest an inclined Vee shaped spray deflector running on what appears to be a horizontal collision buffer would suit the purpose of spray deflection and might I add, the ramming efficiency......... perhaps I should not have said that, sorry for that as it would be rather cruel on you know who.
Carmel Pule' - thanks. It was easily rectified by just removing and reinstalling the spray rail a little higher.
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5 degree bow nothing change on speed cut much spray but it's classic not "revolutionary wave piercing design"
Magnifico 💪🏽
All axe bow ships look like the ocean warrior form sea shepherd
I dont see this working like it should in places like the North Sea and North Atlantic. Germans tried this in ww2 with their battleships. Way to much green sea on the bow.
Hey, wait a minute. That looks almost exactly like Sea Shepherd's Ocean Warrior.
Correct. Same Model, like Mercedes SL. Not a unicum. ;-) You can choose Motorpower, lenght, eqipment...
Cool, how it cuts the waves instead of riding them, hm?
Stephan Gajewski It's pretty cool but isn't this bow wave a disadvantage?
Dimitris Tsekeris no, it’s designed in the way that it is able to handle waves. That is what the whole concept is based on.
@@tiesversteeg1753 But it really doesn't do so. On the contrary it seems to have a huge bow wave that creates a lot of drag.
Dimitris Tsekeris that’s what I thought at first too, but I was at some sort of event where they explained the benefits of this axe-like bow. It has a lot of benefits.
Question :
this sea axe design is instead of, or better than, the bulb design that i seen in other ships to make way through water and obtain higher speeds.
Looks very messy even in a calm sea - huge amounts of spray thrown upwards and onto wheelhouse. Is this an "improvement" over traditional bow design?
Very observant Dav - DAMEN Cape Town reviewed this footage and the spray rails were repositioned giving her much dryer decks on flat water high-speed runs.
+Ant Allen : Terrific of the company to be so flexible in their approach to customer's needs - thanks for your followup.
Bulbous bows only work at low speed and specific speeds; so only
work on slower vessels on a time sensitive charter such as an intermodal or a bulk
carrier. Also, bulbous bows do not make the vessel faster it only saves energy which can only make a considerable saving on larger ships.
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i dont like bow design very wet run compromise visibility
Magnifique les baleiniers non qu'à bien se tenir avec un navire aussi performant
Yeah, okay, but how does it work on actual logs?
Very nice lines, Well done. Hope they are successful for you. Have you ever toyed with the idea of a catamaran this scale?
Is that just the ocean warrior
Isn't that the sea shepered ship ocean warrior?
im not convinced----lol
there something very comforting about your vessels bow very high out of the water.
and this design is very disconcerting and unfamiliar
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Looks like we2 german/ japan destroyer 🤔
Can this ship carry a helicopter?
360p is not watchable. This downgraded video is below standard. We all use 1080p as a minimum.
People spend all this time selling the x-bow. Now you wish to sell this?
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I can see this yoke in high seas just simply plunging at 40 degrees right below the sea right to the bottom...probably a reason that ship builders went away from this design a 100 years ago...cant tell the iphone generation though. they think they know best...lol
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The bow looks remarkably like the Titanic's bow.
HAHA!
Is this design ice-class? I'm concerned for the Ocean Warrior being down in the Southern Ocean.
Hi - I cannot speak for the design of the Ocean Warrior as I do not know who built her, but it is highly unlikely that she would not be reinforced for ice if operating in the Southern Ocean.
Reinforced insurance. Looks like my 100y' old tug
Ocean warrior is designed to ram ships. Period. Some day they will kill people and they will go to prison were they belong. Piracy and murder. Save the whales kill them all. Fucking wackos. Those that donated money. You funded this murderous venture. Your just as guilty an response able. Just a matter of time.
@@johnross1947 Hysterical
@@johnross1947 You should maybe think before you say something cause it sounds like you don't have a clue what sea shepherd is doing
This thing hits solid ice just a foot or so thick and it will quitelike just STOP, albeit with some serious hull damage. Ships designed for ice clogged waters do not use a straight vertical hull. They are designed to ride up onto it and NOT INTO it.
This is NOT AN ICE-BREAKING design. Nowhere has it been stated nor intended. Please do not confuse the issue.
I never said it was an ice breaker. I simply stated that if, while in ice clogged waters, it should impact the ice straight on, it would simply be stopped with likely hull damage.
Gizmologist1, I hope your parents are proud of you knowing how to pretend someone made a mistake and then correcting that imaginary mistake.
Yes, that is what happens to boats if they do that.
The ship is awesome but the music sucks! Just tell me about the ship.
That bow wave sucks...totally wet boat.
船艏設計失敗
one ugly looking boat